Topic: PoW mining as a route towards achieving a Type 1 civilization and beyond? (Read 492 times)
July 10, 2018, 05:37:42 PM
How long do you guys think it'll be until we see a type 2 civilization? 10 generations? 100?
July 09, 2018, 11:02:44 PM
What affect do you guys think the blockchain will have on corruption?
July 09, 2018, 08:46:42 PM
With public, immutable ledgers I think corruption will dwindle in the next few decades.
July 09, 2018, 01:41:38 PM
Do you guys think we'll see a type 1, or even possibly a type 2 civilization in our lifetimes?
NOP, we will not see it. Why? Because most 3rd world countries are ruled by corrupt scam.
It can be argued that most first world nations are also ruled by the corrupt. We just dont notice because at the lowest level corruption is somewhat lower than in third world nations.
July 09, 2018, 10:20:08 AM
Do you guys think we'll see a type 1, or even possibly a type 2 civilization in our lifetimes?
NOP, we will not see it. Why? Because most 3rd world countries are ruled by corrupt scam.
July 09, 2018, 10:05:01 AM
Do you guys think we'll see a type 1, or even possibly a type 2 civilization in our lifetimes?
July 08, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
I disagree, immigration is only the consequence, not the problem, We must realize what and more importantly who is causing the problem which leads to immigration.
recent example,
There wouldn't be massive immigrations to Europe from Syria if certain countries/organizations wouldn't be trying to make war and sell weapons, do you wanna live in war infested country? hell, no!
Why the fuck don't they leave them alone, then there wouldn't be any immigrations anywhere...
Dissolution of Yugoslavia - at some point in history I'd dare to say most powerful country in the europe, what a carefully laid out plan that was...and at the end as a big boom let's make them hate and kill each other, good job USA, whatever you touch you turn into a warzone.
I mean who the fuck else in the world invests so much money into weapons and whatnot than fuckin' USA??
recent example,
There wouldn't be massive immigrations to Europe from Syria if certain countries/organizations wouldn't be trying to make war and sell weapons, do you wanna live in war infested country? hell, no!
Why the fuck don't they leave them alone, then there wouldn't be any immigrations anywhere...
Dissolution of Yugoslavia - at some point in history I'd dare to say most powerful country in the europe, what a carefully laid out plan that was...and at the end as a big boom let's make them hate and kill each other, good job USA, whatever you touch you turn into a warzone.
I mean who the fuck else in the world invests so much money into weapons and whatnot than fuckin' USA??
I dont really see immigration as a relevant variable.
July 08, 2018, 03:34:50 PM
The largest problem we have right now is transportation of goods and services and climate change.
I suppose having more energy would make it easier to refrigerate and transport food from one place to another but right now the big issue we have those two items .
I suppose having more energy would make it easier to refrigerate and transport food from one place to another but right now the big issue we have those two items .
I agree with this. Being able to combat climate change while at the same time being able to transport and refrigerate will solve a large chunk of the world's problems right now.
Not everything of course, but a good solid chunk.
July 08, 2018, 01:20:30 PM
Well, the Dyson Sphere needs to come first.
In theory we could begin development today, but who will pay for the materials is the big question.
July 08, 2018, 07:23:03 AM
I disagree, immigration is only the consequence, not the problem, We must realize what and more importantly who is causing the problem which leads to immigration.
recent example,
There wouldn't be massive immigrations to Europe from Syria if certain countries/organizations wouldn't be trying to make war and sell weapons, do you wanna live in war infested country? hell, no!
Why the fuck don't they leave them alone, then there wouldn't be any immigrations anywhere...
Dissolution of Yugoslavia - at some point in history I'd dare to say most powerful country in the europe, what a carefully laid out plan that was...and at the end as a big boom let's make them hate and kill each other, good job USA, whatever you touch you turn into a warzone.
I mean who the fuck else in the world invests so much money into weapons and whatnot than fuckin' USA??
recent example,
There wouldn't be massive immigrations to Europe from Syria if certain countries/organizations wouldn't be trying to make war and sell weapons, do you wanna live in war infested country? hell, no!
Why the fuck don't they leave them alone, then there wouldn't be any immigrations anywhere...
Dissolution of Yugoslavia - at some point in history I'd dare to say most powerful country in the europe, what a carefully laid out plan that was...and at the end as a big boom let's make them hate and kill each other, good job USA, whatever you touch you turn into a warzone.
I mean who the fuck else in the world invests so much money into weapons and whatnot than fuckin' USA??
July 07, 2018, 06:50:19 AM
the biggest problem on EARTH, BY FAR, BY HUGE FAR IS:
We have 3,8 bl people that gain less than 2$ a day, that obviously live in third world places were they can't get education, health care and all that, and they are desperately poor and want to migrate to other parts of the world were they can have an oportunity.
Every year, according to OMS (WHO), more than 80 million babies are born on those third world countries. The problem is that, we face a destruction on most advanced societies. Inmigration is collapsing our way of living , our services and creating huge highways of migrations towards our countries, putting in danger our way of living as well as our possibilities to offer OUR OWN PEOPLE A RESPECTABLE WAY OF LIVING.
THERE IS NO WAY migration can solve the issue. We have to help them ON THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and control very toughly those illegal inmigrations. We have to. There is no other option.
before answering, watch this:_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlSwsV7fmY
+1 We have 3,8 bl people that gain less than 2$ a day, that obviously live in third world places were they can't get education, health care and all that, and they are desperately poor and want to migrate to other parts of the world were they can have an oportunity.
Every year, according to OMS (WHO), more than 80 million babies are born on those third world countries. The problem is that, we face a destruction on most advanced societies. Inmigration is collapsing our way of living , our services and creating huge highways of migrations towards our countries, putting in danger our way of living as well as our possibilities to offer OUR OWN PEOPLE A RESPECTABLE WAY OF LIVING.
THERE IS NO WAY migration can solve the issue. We have to help them ON THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and control very toughly those illegal inmigrations. We have to. There is no other option.
before answering, watch this:_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlSwsV7fmY
Agree
immigration is destroying our way of living as well.
this does not looking good
July 07, 2018, 04:24:31 AM
the biggest problem on EARTH, BY FAR, BY HUGE FAR IS:
We have 3,8 bl people that gain less than 2$ a day, that obviously live in third world places were they can't get education, health care and all that, and they are desperately poor and want to migrate to other parts of the world were they can have an oportunity.
Every year, according to OMS (WHO), more than 80 million babies are born on those third world countries. The problem is that, we face a destruction on most advanced societies. Inmigration is collapsing our way of living , our services and creating huge highways of migrations towards our countries, putting in danger our way of living as well as our possibilities to offer OUR OWN PEOPLE A RESPECTABLE WAY OF LIVING.
THERE IS NO WAY migration can solve the issue. We have to help them ON THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and control very toughly those illegal inmigrations. We have to. There is no other option.
before answering, watch this:_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlSwsV7fmY
We have 3,8 bl people that gain less than 2$ a day, that obviously live in third world places were they can't get education, health care and all that, and they are desperately poor and want to migrate to other parts of the world were they can have an oportunity.
Every year, according to OMS (WHO), more than 80 million babies are born on those third world countries. The problem is that, we face a destruction on most advanced societies. Inmigration is collapsing our way of living , our services and creating huge highways of migrations towards our countries, putting in danger our way of living as well as our possibilities to offer OUR OWN PEOPLE A RESPECTABLE WAY OF LIVING.
THERE IS NO WAY migration can solve the issue. We have to help them ON THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and control very toughly those illegal inmigrations. We have to. There is no other option.
before answering, watch this:_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlSwsV7fmY
July 07, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
The largest problem we have right now is transportation of goods and services and climate change.
I suppose having more energy would make it easier to refrigerate and transport food from one place to another but right now the big issue we have those two items .
we have plenty of power for a normal human activity things such as he cooling basic transportation Etc.
The thing is it consume most of the power currently generated of our companies like Google’s huge data centers with the redundant triple redundant backup systems department of defense huge data center is in triple backed up hard work hard firewall systems that constantly consume tons and tons of energy and I never shut off .
Also if you do some research you will find it most of the power and fuel fossil fuel consumed right now I’ll bite big transportation containers that transport goods and services for th The millions and millions of consumers in the world that need to have cars foreign goods imported systems and yes your mining system is being shipped via bit mean the air or ground or whatever .
The reason why those higher level switch civilizations need to so much power is similar to ours and is in Sam’s respect due to the fact that they have they will have computer systems so advanced and so powerful that they consume tons and tons of power just across from what they considered minor tasks such as matters such as m matter transfer , Direct tissue repair from basically atoms, things such as nano technology Brotz that basically do most of the tasks that we do now such as manufacturing building , etc.
The power requirements for search technology is that So immense that we cannot even begin to fathom them right now so to make a long story short POPOW power use is a very tiny fraction of the issues that we have relating power today was the issues out tied up in transportation and production and transportation of food once that gets solved lots more power be available for things such as my knitting on POF and we can start building bigger and more powerful network systems with the excess power and cheaper power
I suppose having more energy would make it easier to refrigerate and transport food from one place to another but right now the big issue we have those two items .
we have plenty of power for a normal human activity things such as he cooling basic transportation Etc.
The thing is it consume most of the power currently generated of our companies like Google’s huge data centers with the redundant triple redundant backup systems department of defense huge data center is in triple backed up hard work hard firewall systems that constantly consume tons and tons of energy and I never shut off .
Also if you do some research you will find it most of the power and fuel fossil fuel consumed right now I’ll bite big transportation containers that transport goods and services for th The millions and millions of consumers in the world that need to have cars foreign goods imported systems and yes your mining system is being shipped via bit mean the air or ground or whatever .
The reason why those higher level switch civilizations need to so much power is similar to ours and is in Sam’s respect due to the fact that they have they will have computer systems so advanced and so powerful that they consume tons and tons of power just across from what they considered minor tasks such as matters such as m matter transfer , Direct tissue repair from basically atoms, things such as nano technology Brotz that basically do most of the tasks that we do now such as manufacturing building , etc.
The power requirements for search technology is that So immense that we cannot even begin to fathom them right now so to make a long story short POPOW power use is a very tiny fraction of the issues that we have relating power today was the issues out tied up in transportation and production and transportation of food once that gets solved lots more power be available for things such as my knitting on POF and we can start building bigger and more powerful network systems with the excess power and cheaper power
July 06, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
Population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind and earth for that matter, assuming no nuclear holocaust will happen in the near future.
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
LOOOOOOOOOL!!
wow, you can't be serious??
where do I even start on how to reply on your post...
ok first the part where we agree, your last sentence,
yes, there are "organizations" even state
for example,
over the years ever wonder how new diseases/viruses magically appear(cough* are injected) and spread always on places on earth where there is usually poverty - avian flu, mad cow disease, zika virus...etc. for the purpose to get rid of those masses.
Next...
Just because we explored every corner of the earth doesn't mean population growth is the biggest threat to humanity.
Just take a look at this picture and tell me again population growth is the biggest threat to humanity, you can't imagine how many unpopulated areas are there on the earth. You can't grasp that size and neither can I!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/World_human_population_density_map.png
Sorry but you sound ignorant if you still think population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind then and if that's not enough remember that even today there are discussions about how one day we will populate other planets as well.
this one slightly pissed me off..."Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing"
How the actual fck do you know that for a fact?
Not only do we have enough but we have way more than we will ever need, but uneven distribution of resources is something totally different and fault of the somebody else(the 1% club)
As long as nature is stable and healthy(no nuclear holocausts...etc.) the nature will have resources to provide humanity with food, water and more.
As a miner and somebody engaged in crypto world you should know better than this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3YF75DPGlQ
July 06, 2018, 09:14:25 AM
Well, the Dyson Sphere needs to come first.
July 06, 2018, 04:46:37 AM
Population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind and earth for that matter, assuming no nuclear holocaust will happen in the near future.
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
LOOOOOOOOOL!!
wow, you can't be serious??
where do I even start on how to reply on your post...
ok first the part where we agree, your last sentence,
yes, there are "organizations" even state
for example,
over the years ever wonder how new diseases/viruses magically appear(cough* are injected) and spread always on places on earth where there is usually poverty - avian flu, mad cow disease, zika virus...etc. for the purpose to get rid of those masses.
Next...
Just because we explored every corner of the earth doesn't mean population growth is the biggest threat to humanity.
Just take a look at this picture and tell me again population growth is the biggest threat to humanity, you can't imagine how many unpopulated areas are there on the earth. You can't grasp that size and neither can I!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/World_human_population_density_map.png
Sorry but you sound ignorant if you still think population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind then and if that's not enough remember that even today there are discussions about how one day we will populate other planets as well.
this one slightly pissed me off..."Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing"
How the actual fck do you know that for a fact?
Not only do we have enough but we have way more than we will ever need, but uneven distribution of resources is something totally different and fault of the somebody else(the 1% club)
As long as nature is stable and healthy(no nuclear holocausts...etc.) the nature will have resources to provide humanity with food, water and more.
As a miner and somebody engaged in crypto world you should know better than this...
I agree with everything you said.
Glad you understand this
sorry for bursting out like that. July 06, 2018, 01:45:32 AM
Population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind and earth for that matter, assuming no nuclear holocaust will happen in the near future.
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
LOOOOOOOOOL!!
wow, you can't be serious??
where do I even start on how to reply on your post...
ok first the part where we agree, your last sentence,
yes, there are "organizations" even state
for example,
over the years ever wonder how new diseases/viruses magically appear(cough* are injected) and spread always on places on earth where there is usually poverty - avian flu, mad cow disease, zika virus...etc. for the purpose to get rid of those masses.
Next...
Just because we explored every corner of the earth doesn't mean population growth is the biggest threat to humanity.
Just take a look at this picture and tell me again population growth is the biggest threat to humanity, you can't imagine how many unpopulated areas are there on the earth. You can't grasp that size and neither can I!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/World_human_population_density_map.png
Sorry but you sound ignorant if you still think population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind then and if that's not enough remember that even today there are discussions about how one day we will populate other planets as well.
this one slightly pissed me off..."Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing"
How the actual fck do you know that for a fact?
Not only do we have enough but we have way more than we will ever need, but uneven distribution of resources is something totally different and fault of the somebody else(the 1% club)
As long as nature is stable and healthy(no nuclear holocausts...etc.) the nature will have resources to provide humanity with food, water and more.
As a miner and somebody engaged in crypto world you should know better than this...
I agree with everything you said.
July 05, 2018, 05:12:07 PM
I think that other guy may have meant that overpopulation is a problem for places that people want to live in. There is plenty of land per-say but not much of it is a great place to live even with subsidies.
July 05, 2018, 04:32:46 PM
Population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind and earth for that matter, assuming no nuclear holocaust will happen in the near future.
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
It's a big problem, far bigger than most will admit, as technology advances, less and less people are needed for mankind to function normally, more automation and less jobs to go around.
On the flip side, inhabitable corners of the earth are shrinking daily, we have drought and femine in places people used to live happy ten or twenty years back, poverty is increasing all around the globe.
You see where this is going?
In the following years we will start to see mass migrations due to uninhabitable lands and soon earth will not be able to sustains its population for multiple reasons.
Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing, you can check the predicted population growth - its doesn't look good, its actually scary to say the least.
By the time we hit 2050-2060 there's gonna be huge problems, and there's not much options that can solve this.
Either we start controlling population growth or there's gonna be cleansing, either by viruses or world wars.....
No doubt there's organizations around the world already planning how to get rid of mass amounts of people
LOOOOOOOOOL!!
wow, you can't be serious??
where do I even start on how to reply on your post...
ok first the part where we agree, your last sentence,
yes, there are "organizations" even state
for example,
over the years ever wonder how new diseases/viruses magically appear(cough* are injected) and spread always on places on earth where there is usually poverty - avian flu, mad cow disease, zika virus...etc. for the purpose to get rid of those masses.
Next...
Just because we explored every corner of the earth doesn't mean population growth is the biggest threat to humanity.
Just take a look at this picture and tell me again population growth is the biggest threat to humanity, you can't imagine how many unpopulated areas are there on the earth. You can't grasp that size and neither can I!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/World_human_population_density_map.png
Sorry but you sound ignorant if you still think population growth is by far the biggest threat to mankind then and if that's not enough remember that even today there are discussions about how one day we will populate other planets as well.
this one slightly pissed me off..."Unfortunately, there is not enough for everyone to go around at the rate the populations is growing"
How the actual fck do you know that for a fact?
Not only do we have enough but we have way more than we will ever need, but uneven distribution of resources is something totally different and fault of the somebody else(the 1% club)
As long as nature is stable and healthy(no nuclear holocausts...etc.) the nature will have resources to provide humanity with food, water and more.
As a miner and somebody engaged in crypto world you should know better than this...
July 05, 2018, 04:06:02 PM
If we used pow mining to fund solar problem solved.
Lots and lots and lot of solar power available.
Power is not much of an issue for Earth.
Lots and lots and lot of solar power available.
Power is not much of an issue for Earth.
In the end is all about cost, solar will always stay behind if is not worth the cost for it. Also, to point it out, some governments give incentives if you opt for solar power and people in those countries are ahead x other countries, my point is if solar is equal or cheaper than price of power companies then yes, in china there are many places where coal is in abundance. As the world progresses, coal supply will be less and less and in the end only solar, windy or hydro power will stay cause they are renewable but right now, solar is still too expensive worldwide.
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