Topic: Power of unstoppable organizations to self-destruct (Read 1027 times)

Sputnuts, the blood clots are all gone. You ain't seen nuttin' yet. Up close due diligence is lowly recommended.

Shelby speaks the Truth !
i KNOW I SEEN HIS BALLS (no joke)

But what i fail to get here is why are the self-righteous delusional mETH heads
tweaking out pretending to be little warriors for freedom and fairness..when..

The ICO "Scheme Coin" was launched more scammy then any other coin in history ?

The nerve of these moronic hypocrites !

And no there is no way in hell they can play dumb either..
The had to have seen the "FUD" 
Or.. they should have found "FUD" when doing research before shouting "Take my money NOW!"

If you guys are not doing your homework BEFORE BUYING then your a fucking retard .

And i dare any of you on earth to tell me Ethereum was launched / *handled* fairly
after you go back and check its history etc.. YOU CAN'T !

So yeah you "supporters" and your facade of a "community" is scammy delusion.
AND YOU KNOW IT !

Greedy asshole losers got caught playing "The Game" ..
And you lost !
You should have taken the 30% cut idiots now you get what you get.

I have 0 sympathy for you all.
You made your bed now go sleep in it Investards

..and wait for the next hack attack.

Comments here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4pi07u/venting_my_thoughts_on_the_dao_so_i_dont_explode/

Cause me to think that an Ethereum replacement should have a TOS which says that in no case may the block chain be forked to remedy any issue with any smart contract.

No forks!

StinkyLover, my gf says I am so very stinky because I didn't have time to take a shower for 3 months (well I finally took one yesterday). I offered her some my dick cheese and she said, "ewww". It was really bad, I could even smell myself (that is when you know it is bad when the fumes are visibly rising like the old Vics vaporrub commercials).

I would have more empathy for the Ethereum folks had they not ridiculed me when I tried to warn them before and got banned from the forum for warning them. As you know, I've since learned to back off and not pick sides (not because of the bans which I could give a fuck, but because I realized it was counter to allowing the free will that nature requires).

So I am not picking sides here. I expect Ethereum will fork and live on, but somehow less spell binding than it was before.

Those guys had fun, had a good run, got paid high salaries, etc..

Others of us can take a stab at it too and see if we can do better.

Those guys might pop back with new projects or a renewed Ethereum.

I guess I should try to view it from your likely perspective. You were probably really thinking that Ethereum was really awesome and could really change the world. If I had thought that about Ethereum then my attitude would have been much different. I had technical reasons for not falling for that delusion.

Nevertheless I am surprised that in the end of it, I ended up enamored with a better conceptual design for a DAO which does not pool funds. So I got to admit, Ethereum bit me.

Perhaps that is no consolation to you.

I wish we didn't have to fight. Well actually I love sports competition, but for me that isn't a "fight". Argument is good when it is constructive (or destructive but worthwhile). I guess it is the nature of the game we are in. Good luck to all of you.

I am not sure if I respect the attacker. He might be a blowhard or he might be more capable than me (not that I am particularly capable at hacking or networking, because my skill is more in design). I intend to find out. No doubt he can commandeer more resources than I can.

Completely agree. The front end tech is a joke and nightmare, and not just ETH. A lot of these new ICO/crowdsale boys are offering crap tech for many many BTC!

This is a pure bogus lie because you were never a supporter so your non-support is about as valid as your support.

Also, we STILL await this competing project!!!

Better keep licking the DAOHackers rectum and pulling his cock to keep him hard so that he doesn't steal from you when you 'finally' release this world-saving world-beating crypto.

I know you believe he's a crypto-anarchist and saviour of 21st century true freedom, but personally I believe he's just a common thief with hacking skills. The sort of hacker who constructs those annoying windows pop-ups that are a nightmare to get rid of. The kind that will steal your identity in a heartbeat. He's nothing more than that. And just remember one thing as you maintain your erection about his thievery skills...

"There is no honor amongst thieves"

(keep your eyes open, and your wallet locked around this guy)

Well, I'm glad that I turned over a new leaf and dumped most of my ETH and DAO tokens the Monday before the attack. I really don't have special powers of prediction. I just knew that  I was presented with a GUI (Ethereum Mist) that was not working quite right. Then they "fixed" it to work better with DAO but made copy/paste from it an extended process. If the Ethereum foundation can't get the GUI right, why on Earth would I think their more complex underlying Solidarity language was right? Plus, it appears the way the voting in the DAO was not working at all. All I saw was a bunch of proposals with no contract code behind them and lots of splits. Seemed the community was largely apathetic when it came to actually voting (which is what the DAO tokens were supposed to allow one to do.)

He only used that as a bait to incite the Ethereum community to dig a deeper hole by proposing forks and doing whitehat attacks. He laid a trap.

The only lawsuit that is coming is the class action lawsuit from DAO and ETH holders that will be wiped out by the collapse in the price once the attacker has finished depleting the USG.MIT who have been manipulating the price and absorbing all the selling. Well that is the conspiracy theory anyway.

He is making his profit from shorting. He never expected to get the ETH. He wants to profit while destroying Ethereum.

I am actually interested in what if anything FinCEN does about this 1 Billion USD+ mess.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-failure-of-ethereum-is-complete-it-is-now-a-mere-permissioned-spreadsheet-1521148

One more:


That feature is the flaw of Turing-complete scripting, which myself (and numerous others) personally told the founders of Ethereum would lead to the clusterfuck they have now:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15278364
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15284692
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15306066

So the bug is in Ethereum, as explained in layman's terms here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/power-of-unstoppable-organizations-to-self-destruct-1523492

To fix the bug, they have to fix each instance of failure with a fork. This may be seen as a feature by those who are alleged to be behind this alleged conspiracy.

This is an inexorable bug, or until death do us part.

Aha, Ethereum core BCT promoter confirms the irrefutable power of unstoppable organization:

I note that initially the Daotacker empathetically offered to stop at 33% drainage of the DAO; thus only a 33% haircut for the fools who invested in this hairbrained idea to pool $168m.

His one stipulation was that there be no forks and so he would be allowed to keep his bounty in exchange for availing of the feature in the smart contract.

The Ethereum community not satisfied with the -33% spanking, tried to fight back by proposing forks and preparing a whitehat counter attack. With the popular support of the forks advancing in violation of his empathetic offer, the daotacker resumed his attacks by offering miners what appears to be a share in the spoils of the remaining 67% of the formerly undrained DAO tokens.

The whitehat group seized this as an excuse to launch their counter-splitting-attack.

The daotacker responded by splitting the whitehat's splits to drain them anew.

The Ethereum community has by now walked themselves into a corner with the only options being:

• a perhaps inexorable hacking fight over the split coins
• allowing the daotacker to take 100% of the DAO tokens (convertible to ETH at 0.1 par)
• or forking Ethereum

So now instead of taking a -33% haircut and being able to live on, it appears Ethereum can only die (perhaps a slow and torturous terminal decline). It either dies by losing 100% of the DAO tokens or by forking. If they fork, some fanboiz will remain, but enough of the CC community will hate Ethereum so much that it will suffer being persistently maligned. If they instead allow the daotacker to take the 100% of the DAO tokens, there will be likely class action lawsuits and/because the fanboiz will be emaciated.

If they had only taken the -33% haircut instead of doubling-down on self-belief. But the class action lawsuits were likely perceived to be on the horizon.

Or if they had never launched this delusional smart contakes in the first place.

On top of this, the daotacker might possibly be employing shorts and price swings to bankrupt the alleged permabull manipulators of the Ethereum price.