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January 29, 2023, 10:50:36 AM
#86
Who didn’t hear or watch at least one video about Dana white’s latest show which called The Power Slap League that started this new year of 2023, the rules of this sport are easy and simple where both competitors taking turns trying to knock each other out in order to win
There is a lot of talking about it lately about the low payout of Ufc boss to the participants of this tournament which goes to only 3200£ a Fight while he might be generating millions of dollars of it, But my topic here i want it to be about betting on this new sport and tournament which i still didn’t see any bookmaker announcing anything about this matter, And in my opinion it’s a lot of fan and as any fighting sport there is always bookmakers that will eventually include Power Slap League and allow people to bet on their favorite fighters.
This is something i wouldn't recommend anyone trying for even a laugh. I have a history in training self defence and i have been in rough situations. Even in "friendly" combat i've gotten head injury, broken ribs, bruises, broken joints and so far in those everything has healed.

Then i tried power slap for a laugh with my friend. I don't know why, maybe to probe manliness or impress girls. We managed just to look stupid. I panicked on third slap, turned my face away and my friend managed to hit on my ear. It broke my eardrum and got me loud tinnitus and hearing loss for life. It's one of the few things i really really regret trying. There's no such thing as silence for me anymore. If i had a time machine and one advice to give to younger me. Not ever trying power slap would be high on the list.
That is really a sad story, I'm sorry for that. Sad
This "sport" is indeed very harmful to the players' health, because it's all about being constantly and accurately hit on the head. Every fights' sports cause sequels to athletes on long run, but in Slaps' tournaments the damage is much more intense, severe and not even need to reach the long term to face them, just like in your personal story. I believe there are lots of criticisms inside sports' industry regards this activity, difficulting its introduction to the gambling scene.

   -   You're right there, when I watched this fight, if I look at him it seems like it was even more intense than boxing because at least in boxing you can avoid your face or head and other parts of your body will be hit that you can tolerate no matter what pain hit.

But here in these slap sports, you don't have a chance to avoid your head or face but brace yourself and prepare yourself to accept or taste the severe slap that will touch your face. Then you are just one of the gambler's choice of who will win. What a sad reality Undecided
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January 29, 2023, 09:53:15 AM
#85
I have watched this show several times to see what it is all about. Yes, I think it is a show, because I can't call this kind of entertainment a sport, as the participants don't see any outstanding achievements. Rather they will have problems with the head in their old age. I certainly wouldn't bet on the contestants on this show so as not to support the promotion of what I think is a silly show to the masses.

Its Dana White's new cash cow and they attract people for fame and fortune, disregarding injuries that may incur when participating in this kind of sport, this is one of the combat sports, where the advice
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protect yourself at all times
, is not applicable, because you cannot duck here or cover yourself, you are literally at the mercy of your opponent the organizers should see to it that all the participants have a strong chin and have passed physical tests, although I hate seeing this face slapping I become more curious if this will become popular worldwide because of Dana's promotion.
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January 29, 2023, 09:17:21 AM
#84
I have watched this show several times to see what it is all about. Yes, I think it is a show, because I can't call this kind of entertainment a sport, as the participants don't see any outstanding achievements. Rather they will have problems with the head in their old age. I certainly wouldn't bet on the contestants on this show so as not to support the promotion of what I think is a silly show to the masses.

The entertainment is watching people get slapped so hard they break their jaws. Called a sport perhaps inappropriate, it is very dangerous for anyone without good jaw strength to imitate. Anyone can follow but, of course there is a strict selection. Silly show or not, but power slaps are becoming a popular part of the tournament today, replacing the somewhat outdated arm wrestling league.
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January 29, 2023, 09:04:11 AM
#83
I have watched this show several times to see what it is all about. Yes, I think it is a show, because I can't call this kind of entertainment a sport, as the participants don't see any outstanding achievements. Rather they will have problems with the head in their old age. I certainly wouldn't bet on the contestants on this show so as not to support the promotion of what I think is a silly show to the masses.
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January 29, 2023, 08:36:28 AM
#82
Seems far too variable to be a proper sport or for betting on beyond fun.  The ear damage factor is real and probably people should be wearing protection for ears on the basis but I guess it wont happen because it would look wrong.   
   
This league actually growing, they have more viewers now and many are interested to participate and watch the matches, it looks like they are being offered here with a lot of money just to accept the match. Bettors might also find this interesting and maybe that's why the league are growing too. If they can get more viewers and partners, we might see this league into a big screen and probably many will participate as well as they can be more famous while earning money at the same time. This might look too risky, but its already there, I won't bet on this though.
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January 29, 2023, 08:16:55 AM
#81
Dana White is truly an interesting person. He is a very good organizer and show manager. I have no doubt that he will organize the Power Slap League very well. However, I could not decide whether this event is a sport or not. In my opinion, this is not a type of sport. It has nothing to do with sports directly. However, Dana White can turn it into a very popular event and earn huge bucks. We have all seen what he did in MMA. Even if he cannot achieve the same success, he can perform a good organization.

It will be a big test to him if he can still bring interest to more audiences, unlike with MMA which there are many people who loves the sport and they are enjoying what they are watching Power Slap is more on how hard your chin and how you can endure that strong slap, not sure about the support that it can gain from a huge fan base, so far, this sport if it's already classified as sport is popular from Russia.

Seems far too variable to be a proper sport or for betting on beyond fun.  The ear damage factor is real and probably people should be wearing protection for ears on the basis but I guess it wont happen because it would look wrong.   
   

That's the actual risk, especially to those who really got that huge slap capabilities, damage from the ears and dislocation of your face might be possible if you've got a soft face..
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January 29, 2023, 06:18:32 AM
#80
Dana White is truly an interesting person. He is a very good organizer and show manager. I have no doubt that he will organize the Power Slap League very well. However, I could not decide whether this event is a sport or not. In my opinion, this is not a type of sport. It has nothing to do with sports directly. However, Dana White can turn it into a very popular event and earn huge bucks. We have all seen what he did in MMA. Even if he cannot achieve the same success, he can perform a good organization.
Agreed, Dana into slap league organization makes it more interesting. His involvement will surely make more people watch the event. This guy have got the ability to make nothing to a much better one. Majority have the same thought, it isn't type of game in which betting can be done. MMA is far better, because the harming is entirely different whereas with the slap tournament directly hitting on the face is really worse. I don't think much people will enjoy watching these kind of events.
Why not? There are even strange betting other than this but most of them are only held locally. Slapping is far more popular than them so it has a chance to be included by a betting site. MMA is not comparable to this one.

MMA is more entertaining because whole body parts can be used by the fighters and they can invent different moves by this. They can move freely and do some cover up when one attacks but we already saw a fighter which are badly beaten up so don't say that slapping is worse or more dangerous. For some maybe slapping is unenjoyable but there are people who enjoys this and this is why it became trendy.
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January 29, 2023, 03:44:54 AM
#79
Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.
^Have you heard the news about the Polish slap fighter who died because of the slapping tournament?
But even though how risky it is, it seems this kind of game has now regulated by some countries with some rules and regulations to make sure players will not put their lives in danger. If you have a large jew, this game is the best for you that can able to resist during the slap, I don't think how strong your brain inside your head if there is no damage after you will become a successful fighter of this game.
I heard about it from my friend but didn't think much about it. And if the government has regulated this game, it means that there have been complaints from some people who see that this game is very dangerous if there are no stricter regulations. However, if a very hard impact hits the face, it will cause the internal organs in the head to be shaken and can lead to death.

Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.

The power isn't everything. It's important to be accurate and land on the chin to move the opponent's head to the side. It bounces your brain inside your skull and makes you pass out. That's why many of them have beards to hide the jawline. They also try to tuck the chin as much as they can or even turn their heads a bit to make the opponent hit higher and more into the back of the head, towards the ear.

Slap Leagues can be hilarious at times. You can see good highlights on youtube. There's even one where Arnold was the host.
But at least they must really have strong energy to do a very hard slap that can make their opponent lose immediately. This slapping game is very dangerous because a shock in your skull can make you faint instantly. No matter how hard we try to withstand the effects of the slap, our heads will still experience the shock and there will be a dizzy effect after receiving the slap.

Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.

I also got that feeling too when watching it, I felt the slap, in boxing and MMA I have no feeling while the two fighters are exchanging punches and hitting each other because it's spontaneous, but it is very different when the punches or slap is anticipated, especially when the slapper is preparing to hit the other slapper, you're thinking if the slap is strong or hard and when it land you feel that it also land in your face.  Cheesy
Boxing and MMA matches can also be fatal for both fighters because they will bring out their best abilities to beat their opponent. But I don't know because I saw that the recipient of the punch looked ready to receive a punch from his opponent, so it looks like they set it up before the show.
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January 29, 2023, 01:16:32 AM
#78
But in this case, it is possible that when something like this continues to become crowded, in the end there will be several bets like this, no one knows.
Because even if what you say is true when talking about business they clearly see the potential if this is indeed considered productive I think they will also step in and open some bets.

Cleary this is made not just to entertain but for the UFC and Dana White to gain money aswell, there might be people that don't want to bet on this kind of thing, but people will have different opinions there are still some that will bet on this, and watching the 1st slapping contest I think it is entertaining but this comes with terrible health risk and that will surely have damage someone's brain from the traumatic shock to the head, but surely for UFC to fund such event I think they have studied it before getting this show on the road,


This so called sport wont be stopped unless if someones gets killed due to head injuries or brain damage considering with those huge impact into their faces on the time they are being
slapped by someone.Its true that this is really that something risky just like with those sports like boxing or mma/ufc where brutal hits could really happen out.
Some do really get that interested or really that amazed on this sport but on my part it isnt really just that fun to watch for two people been
slapping to each other.lol

There are deaths in boxing and the MMA but did they stop it? I guess this will not stop until no one is watching this, but for me, this is really entertaining to watch sad to say that I don't want to bet on this because it is surely still a chance, and anyone can surprisingly win, but surely this will lead to serious issues in some point let's just wait and just enjoy what may happen in the future with this power slap event, that Dana White and the UFC have cooked out,

Dana White is truly an interesting person. He is a very good organizer and show manager. I have no doubt that he will organize the Power Slap League very well. However, I could not decide whether this event is a sport or not. In my opinion, this is not a type of sport. It has nothing to do with sports directly. However, Dana White can turn it into a very popular event and earn huge bucks. We have all seen what he did in MMA. Even if he cannot achieve the same success, he can perform a good organization.

We could agree on the same thing but, we and Dana White can surely call this new event anything we want and may agree on what to call it in some point, but surely the damage has already been done to those people's faces, and that one guy was swollen his face like a blow fish, it was really a horrible event in my opinion,
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January 29, 2023, 12:18:18 AM
#77
Dana White is truly an interesting person. He is a very good organizer and show manager. I have no doubt that he will organize the Power Slap League very well. However, I could not decide whether this event is a sport or not. In my opinion, this is not a type of sport. It has nothing to do with sports directly. However, Dana White can turn it into a very popular event and earn huge bucks. We have all seen what he did in MMA. Even if he cannot achieve the same success, he can perform a good organization.
Agreed, Dana into slap league organization makes it more interesting. His involvement will surely make more people watch the event. This guy have got the ability to make nothing to a much better one. Majority have the same thought, it isn't type of game in which betting can be done. MMA is far better, because the harming is entirely different whereas with the slap tournament directly hitting on the face is really worse. I don't think much people will enjoy watching these kind of events.
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January 28, 2023, 11:03:31 PM
#76
Seems far too variable to be a proper sport or for betting on beyond fun.  The ear damage factor is real and probably people should be wearing protection for ears on the basis but I guess it wont happen because it would look wrong.   
   
Lets take the definition of a sport base on Google
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an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment:

While some of the definition can be applied to Power Slap, there are some that isn't like the word "skill". Do you need skill to slap your opponent? You only need power and that's all. On the other hand, power slap involves physical exertion and the phrase "for entertainment". Well, people are enjoying watching 2 people slapping with each other so... yeah it might be entertaining as well so it might be considered as a sport.

As for wearing protection for ears, it wont happen because if that happen, players will not get knocked out since they already have a protection on their ears. Overall, I still consider it a sport. For some it might be entertaining, but I'm more worried than entertained as I watch them.
STT
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January 28, 2023, 07:10:29 PM
#75
Seems far too variable to be a proper sport or for betting on beyond fun.  The ear damage factor is real and probably people should be wearing protection for ears on the basis but I guess it wont happen because it would look wrong.   
   
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January 28, 2023, 07:05:42 PM
#74
Dana White is truly an interesting person. He is a very good organizer and show manager. I have no doubt that he will organize the Power Slap League very well. However, I could not decide whether this event is a sport or not. In my opinion, this is not a type of sport. It has nothing to do with sports directly. However, Dana White can turn it into a very popular event and earn huge bucks. We have all seen what he did in MMA. Even if he cannot achieve the same success, he can perform a good organization.
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January 28, 2023, 06:58:13 PM
#73
This is something i wouldn't recommend anyone trying for even a laugh. I have a history in training self defence and i have been in rough situations. Even in "friendly" combat i've gotten head injury, broken ribs, bruises, broken joints and so far in those everything has healed.

Then i tried power slap for a laugh with my friend. I don't know why, maybe to probe manliness or impress girls. We managed just to look stupid. I panicked on third slap, turned my face away and my friend managed to hit on my ear. It broke my eardrum and got me loud tinnitus and hearing loss for life. It's one of the few things i really really regret trying. There's no such thing as silence for me anymore. If i had a time machine and one advice to give to younger me. Not ever trying power slap would be high on the list.
I’m sorry to hear that mate, slapping game appears to be more dangerous than punishing sometimes and couldn’t cause permanent damage in head from memory loss to breaking skull bones and as in your case causing a permanent hear loss. I don’t think that everyone should be allowed to participate in this sport to at least prevent more cases like these ones. But i don’t think they will stop it as well since there are many people enjoying watching and playing it as any other fighting sport.
So if someone want to be safe he shouldn’t participate in first place and we can’t blame Dana White for supporting this new League since everyone that envoles in it knows well how it can end for him regardless how much money or fame he can get
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January 28, 2023, 06:52:11 PM
#72
Who didn’t hear or watch at least one video about Dana white’s latest show which called The Power Slap League that started this new year of 2023, the rules of this sport are easy and simple where both competitors taking turns trying to knock each other out in order to win
There is a lot of talking about it lately about the low payout of Ufc boss to the participants of this tournament which goes to only 3200£ a Fight while he might be generating millions of dollars of it, But my topic here i want it to be about betting on this new sport and tournament which i still didn’t see any bookmaker announcing anything about this matter, And in my opinion it’s a lot of fan and as any fighting sport there is always bookmakers that will eventually include Power Slap League and allow people to bet on their favorite fighters.
This is something i wouldn't recommend anyone trying for even a laugh. I have a history in training self defence and i have been in rough situations. Even in "friendly" combat i've gotten head injury, broken ribs, bruises, broken joints and so far in those everything has healed.

Then i tried power slap for a laugh with my friend. I don't know why, maybe to probe manliness or impress girls. We managed just to look stupid. I panicked on third slap, turned my face away and my friend managed to hit on my ear. It broke my eardrum and got me loud tinnitus and hearing loss for life. It's one of the few things i really really regret trying. There's no such thing as silence for me anymore. If i had a time machine and one advice to give to younger me. Not ever trying power slap would be high on the list.
That is really a sad story, I'm sorry for that. Sad
This "sport" is indeed very harmful to the players' health, because it's all about being constantly and accurately hit on the head. Every fights' sports cause sequels to athletes on long run, but in Slaps' tournaments the damage is much more intense, severe and not even need to reach the long term to face them, just like in your personal story. I believe there are lots of criticisms inside sports' industry regards this activity, difficulting its introduction to the gambling scene.
This so called sport wont be stopped unless if someones gets killed due to head injuries or brain damage considering with those huge impact into their faces on the time they are being
slapped by someone.Its true that this is really that something risky just like with those sports like boxing or mma/ufc where brutal hits could really happen out.
Some do really get that interested or really that amazed on this sport but on my part it isnt really just that fun to watch for two people been
slapping to each other.lol
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January 28, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
#71
I often see this on several social media platforms or YouTube but have never witnessed this match live.
On the other hand, I also haven't found a betting site for this contest, but it's possible that if something like this continues to get busy, it's not impossible that some will hold it, although at the moment it's still not possible because the enthusiasts may still not be too busy, unlike other bets.
I didnt see any bookies too that accepts betting on slapping contest on which it is really that hard to see one and also its not something a sport that you could really put up some analysis on which one would
really be able to win up because most of the time where fighters had the most bigger body would really be able to win and that would really be that a sure hint that would tell you on where you should
gonna bet and this is why i do believe on why we cant see any bookies arent really offering these betting lines due to this very reason or am i missing up something?
It doesnt really look interesting on my part though on slapping out faces until they do get down.
But in this case, it is possible that when something like this continues to become crowded, in the end there will be several bets like this, no one knows.
Because even if what you say is true when talking about business they clearly see the potential if this is indeed considered productive I think they will also step in and open some bets.
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January 28, 2023, 06:32:53 PM
#70
I don't have the interest to bet on this kind of sport. It's not even sports to begin with.

The reason is, there's no heavy favorite or underdog here. These people are categorized therefore the match was well balanced.

The first one to always got the chance to slap fight will always have the advantage. Don't want to a place a bet for that.

Actually, for me, this is real gambling you will never know if a person can withstand a slap or blow, or if that person has the strength to knock out his opponent with just a slap, for me these is really not real combat skills, It looks like Dana White is searching other ways to suppress is hunger with slapping contest with his wife, (just a pun) this show was said to be release on January 11, 2023 but because of the Slapping incident Dana and his wife have gotten in the new years eve, so it was delayed,

Well just like in the UFC when it was just starting but for this slapping contest It should have some division but they just know what they are doing this is the UFC

And yes if there will be a betting for this it will be hard to say if who's going to win because this is going to be a gamble to bet on,

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January 28, 2023, 06:27:56 PM
#69
Who didn’t hear or watch at least one video about Dana white’s latest show which called The Power Slap League that started this new year of 2023, the rules of this sport are easy and simple where both competitors taking turns trying to knock each other out in order to win
There is a lot of talking about it lately about the low payout of Ufc boss to the participants of this tournament which goes to only 3200£ a Fight while he might be generating millions of dollars of it, But my topic here i want it to be about betting on this new sport and tournament which i still didn’t see any bookmaker announcing anything about this matter, And in my opinion it’s a lot of fan and as any fighting sport there is always bookmakers that will eventually include Power Slap League and allow people to bet on their favorite fighters.
This is something i wouldn't recommend anyone trying for even a laugh. I have a history in training self defence and i have been in rough situations. Even in "friendly" combat i've gotten head injury, broken ribs, bruises, broken joints and so far in those everything has healed.

Then i tried power slap for a laugh with my friend. I don't know why, maybe to probe manliness or impress girls. We managed just to look stupid. I panicked on third slap, turned my face away and my friend managed to hit on my ear. It broke my eardrum and got me loud tinnitus and hearing loss for life. It's one of the few things i really really regret trying. There's no such thing as silence for me anymore. If i had a time machine and one advice to give to younger me. Not ever trying power slap would be high on the list.
That is really a sad story, I'm sorry for that. Sad
This "sport" is indeed very harmful to the players' health, because it's all about being constantly and accurately hit on the head. Every fights' sports cause sequels to athletes on long run, but in Slaps' tournaments the damage is much more intense, severe and not even need to reach the long term to face them, just like in your personal story. I believe there are lots of criticisms inside sports' industry regards this activity, difficulting its introduction to the gambling scene.
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January 28, 2023, 06:09:31 PM
#68
Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.

I also got that feeling too when watching it, I felt the slap, in boxing and MMA I have no feeling while the two fighters are exchanging punches and hitting each other because it's spontaneous, but it is very different when the punches or slap is anticipated, especially when the slapper is preparing to hit the other slapper, you're thinking if the slap is strong or hard and when it land you feel that it also land in your face.  Cheesy
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January 28, 2023, 05:32:34 PM
#67
Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.

The power isn't everything. It's important to be accurate and land on the chin to move the opponent's head to the side. It bounces your brain inside your skull and makes you pass out. That's why many of them have beards to hide the jawline. They also try to tuck the chin as much as they can or even turn their heads a bit to make the opponent hit higher and more into the back of the head, towards the ear.

Slap Leagues can be hilarious at times. You can see good highlights on youtube. There's even one where Arnold was the host.
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