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June 17, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
#25
Actually, Bert has the concept of efficiency and power ratings backwards. A 500W PSU should be able to supply 500W of sustained DC load. If it has a 80% efficiency at full load, it will be drawing 625W AC.

All of this is what the power supplies should be able to handle. The sad truth is that many PSU manufacturers tend to overstate their actual power capabilities or simply don't stress test their units properly.

That all being said, you don't want to be running your PSU at it's full capacity all the time anyways. It'd be like redlining your car continuously and expecting it to work after 3 months.

The 750TX should be able to handle the two 5850's you have with some headroom to spare. I'd check the actual power draw using a Kill-a-watt, and then estimate or look up the efficiency to determine the DC draw on the PSU. A safe estimate would be that between 30-70% load, the PSU would be 80% efficient. Otherwise, count for 75%.

The only two websites that I really trust for PSU recommendations are SilentPCReview and Jonny Guru. Both have the methodology to properly test power supplies to their full capability. (I'm a little biased in this regard since I used to work for SPCR).
newbie
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June 17, 2011, 06:19:51 AM
#24
Asus M4A79T Deluxe 790FX AM3 ATX
AMD Sempron 140 1x 2.70GHz
2GB (1x 2048MB) Kingston ValueRAM DDR3-1333
250GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD253GJ 7.200
USB Wlan Stick
2x 120mm Fans
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June 17, 2011, 06:11:51 AM
#23
What is your motherboard, CPU, RAM, HDD, anything else plugged into the machine USB devices (HDD,fans,???) ?
newbie
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June 17, 2011, 06:05:59 AM
#22
blew up my cheap PSU Wink ...

will the

Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2
(750, bronze, +12V 62A, +3,3V 30A, +5V 30A, +5Vsb 3A, -12V 0,8A)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021&Tpk=CMPSU-750TXV2

be fine with 2x 5850 + 140 sempron etc. ?
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June 16, 2011, 03:50:08 PM
#20
Try to keep the temperature under 85 °C. After that ...
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June 16, 2011, 03:46:32 PM
#19
Allright! Well, thanks again tho! I will send you something when I made my first btc Wink
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June 16, 2011, 03:45:03 PM
#18
Sorry, under UNIX I could write you a script, but I have no idea under Windows. Hopefully someone else knows the answer.
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June 16, 2011, 03:42:22 PM
#17
Was used, yes.

I plugged in the pcie cable for 2nd card, seems to work now (fans for both cards)... don`t why Smiley

Thanks again! Do you know any software that shuts down my pc if the GPU! temp gets to xx?


*edit* the temp was at 99+ so I guess I was pretty lucky that I monitored that right away.
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June 16, 2011, 03:40:27 PM
#16
Is is being used when it is not spinning ?
Because the fans by default are set to auto, and if the GPU/VRAM/MOSFET's are not being used then the fan will spin down because the temperature will say that there is no need for cooling.
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June 16, 2011, 03:21:57 PM
#15
Bert you`re great! Both cards are usable now Wink

But there is another problem now :/ the fan of the 2nd card isn`t spinning or only slow, than stops... any idea?!
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June 16, 2011, 03:05:48 PM
#14
That really depends on the BIOS, the BIOS settings and type of video cable, VGA - probably, DVI - maybe, HDMI - probably not.
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June 16, 2011, 03:01:11 PM
#13
Thanks Bert!
I will try out to deinstall my drivers, put my dummy in, restart and reinstall them, just a min.

But still, shouldn`t I get a signal when I turn the pc off, plug the monitor in the 2nd card an start the pc?! Even if it`s not activated in windows, it should show me the bios loading screen etc, right?! (as I said, fan is spinning)
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June 16, 2011, 02:39:09 PM
#12
Yea, but 6970 draw from 220 to 360 watts depending on (over/under)clocking and load. Call it 250W with no over/underclocking (it draws 174W when idle).
3 x 250W is 750W and most PSU's are 90% efficent so an 850W PSU can only supply about 765W. Allowing 50-100watts for CPU/RAM/motherboard/HDD/USB and you can see the problem.

EDIT: Sorry I was looking at the wrong graphics card
The 6970 each draw from 323W to 423W, straight away there is an issue trying to power 2+ of them from an 850W (765) PSU.
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June 16, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
#11
From the 1st link I gave above http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=11 - "It made sense for drivers to not enable a GPU when no monitor was attached to it. But since the rise of GPGPU applications, graphics vendors AMD and NVIDIA realized that this behavior was inconvenient. At least with the most recent Linux drivers, dummy plugs are not necessary anymore. [Update 2011-02-22: However Windows still requires dummy plugs, as of February 2011.]"

Try downloading whichever of the below are appropriate for your Windows OS. Leave dummy in place, install, reboot, see if the 2nd card is visible.
http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK/downloads/Pages/default.aspx AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4-Windows-64 or AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4-Windows-32
newbie
Activity: 19
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June 16, 2011, 02:19:29 PM
#10
but since the card that uses the two adapters shows no signal even if it is connected to the monitor, it must be something wrong with the power.

I am using a "gate" like this

http://www.sklep.soft-pc.pl/galerie/a/adapter-molex-molex-fdd_12186.jpg

well.. it comes directly from my PSU but "splits" in two molex. maybe this cable has only power for one pcie adapter but not the two?!
newbie
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June 16, 2011, 02:18:22 PM
#9
i installed the driver wenn I got my 1st card.
then equipped the 2nd one + used the adapter.

the 2nd card is exactly the same, should use the drivers from the first one, or what do you mean?!
newbie
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June 16, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
#8
Undecided huh since you will runn this pc all the time buy only a brand psu and go for 80+
and use this to calculate http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

cool link.. thanks for that
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June 16, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
#7
Did you install the driver with the dummy connected ?
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June 16, 2011, 02:13:01 PM
#6
yep, got a dummy right here.

the problem is... if I connect my monitor with the card that is powered by 2 adapters (and not 1 adapter + the 6pin pcie), I don`t get a signal. so my guess is that there is a problem with the power.
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