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June 07, 2012, 06:31:21 PM
LOL, warp drive to sling shot around sun, go back in time to mine out bitcoins (Star Trek of course) Cheesy.  

I am not familiar with which superconductor you are referring to, where did you see that fullerenes (or even graphene) doped with an alkali metal such as potassium results in room temperature superconduction? Graphene/fullerenes doped with potassium do achieve superconductivity, but those temperatures are at about ~40K and below (-235 C or -391 F and below). The highest temperature superconductors at the moment  have a temperature just above 100K (HgBa2Ca2Cu3O8+δ: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096007790900321X).

There's several claims on Wikipedia of near RTSC. Of course no one has duplicated these results yet, much less turn them into practical applications.
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June 07, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
LOL, warp drive to sling shot around sun, go back in time to mine out bitcoins (Star Trek of course) Cheesy.  

I am not familiar with which superconductor you are referring to, where did you see that fullerenes (or even graphene) doped with an alkali metal such as potassium results in room temperature superconduction? Graphene/fullerenes doped with potassium do achieve superconductivity, but those temperatures are at about ~40K and below (-235 C or -391 F and below). The highest temperature superconductors at the moment  have a temperature just above 100K (HgBa2Ca2Cu3O8+δ: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096007790900321X).
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June 07, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
Why would you use a warp drive when you can just fold space/time?  Roll Eyes

Why fold space/time when you can use an infinite improbability drive?  Roll Eyes
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June 07, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
Well, "soon" a lot of things will be arriving: dual 7970 gpu cards, 22 nm, 16 nm, atom transistors (one created this year following Ohm's law), high temperature superconductors, warp drives Grin... It looks GPUs are quite significant in bitcoin mining at the present moment, if ASICs become the dominant method of bitcoin mining, then its case will be proven once it becomes widespread with supply and demand being met, not right now.

Room temperature superconductors have been known for a long time already, the difficulty may be in mass producing them. One such superconductor:
4 atoms of potassium -->c60<--4 atoms of potassium  - makes a crystal that has 0 resistance @ room temperature.

Why would you use a warp drive when you can just fold space/time?  Roll Eyes
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June 07, 2012, 01:16:34 PM
1000 euro Shocked

Not worth it !
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June 07, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
Cтoимocть видeoкapты в eвpoпeйcкoм peгиoнe мoжeт дocтигнyть €1000.

at the end of the article.

Soon the euro wont be worth anything. Cheap 7990s!!! whooo


Soon GPU mining won't be worth anything Smiley BFL ASIC coming.
Will believe it when I see it. Have fun spending $10-15K for $2K of GPU performance! Smiley Watercooled 7970's is where its at, but I just don't have the guts to void my warranty lol. Tongue

Well, "soon" a lot of things will be arriving: dual 7970 gpu cards, 22 nm, 16 nm, atom transistors (one created this year following Ohm's law), high temperature superconductors, warp drives Grin... It looks GPUs are quite significant in bitcoin mining at the present moment, if ASICs become the dominant method of bitcoin mining, then its case will be proven once it becomes widespread with supply and demand being met, not right now.
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June 07, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Cтoимocть видeoкapты в eвpoпeйcкoм peгиoнe мoжeт дocтигнyть €1000.

at the end of the article.

Soon the euro wont be worth anything. Cheap 7990s!!! whooo


Soon GPU mining won't be worth anything Smiley BFL ASIC coming.
Will believe it when I see it. Have fun spending $10-15K for $2K of GPU performance! Smiley Watercooled 7970's is where its at, but I just don't have the guts to void my warranty lol. Tongue
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June 07, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
Cтoимocть видeoкapты в eвpoпeйcкoм peгиoнe мoжeт дocтигнyть €1000.

at the end of the article.

Soon the euro wont be worth anything. Cheap 7990s!!! whooo


Soon GPU mining won't be worth anything Smiley BFL ASIC coming.
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June 07, 2012, 06:31:55 AM
Cтoимocть видeoкapты в eвpoпeйcкoм peгиoнe мoжeт дocтигнyть €1000.

at the end of the article.
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June 06, 2012, 10:45:28 PM
So apparently, the little red button activates the second BIOS to run the chips up to 1.1 GHz. Taking this speed, one chip would probably translate to about ~650 MH/s; resulting in a combined result of ~1300 MH/s per card. There is no doubt this card could achieve higher speeds given its design, adding a waterblock could most likely allow it to push even further. Power is not an issue for me, but would love to have a pair of these if price is reasonable compared to a 7970.


http://www.overclockers.ru/hardnews/47755/PowerColor_Devil_13_HD7970_X2_vo_vseh_podrobnostyah.html


http://computex.pconline.com.cn/2012/site/1205/2809436.html

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June 06, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
It uses 2x HD7970M (m for mobile, it's meant for laptops, so uses less electricity but is also slower) also the motherboard is a concept, it won't be in the shop.

That makes sense, the 7970M is a slower clocked Pitcairn (7870) die, so it would consume a lot less juice. It's still say it will run pretty hot, that's a big hunk of aluminum but it really doesn't look like a particularly effective heat sink.

BUT IT LOOKS COOL THATS ALL THAT MATTERS

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June 06, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
It uses 2x HD7970M (m for mobile, it's meant for laptops, so uses less electricity but is also slower) also the motherboard is a concept, it won't be in the shop.

That makes sense, the 7970M is a slower clocked Pitcairn (7870) die, so it would consume a lot less juice. I'd still say it will run pretty hot, that's a big hunk of aluminum but it really doesn't look like a particularly effective heat sink.
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June 06, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
It uses 2x HD7970M (m for mobile, it's meant for laptops, so uses less electricity but is also slower) also the motherboard is a concept, it won't be in the shop.
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June 06, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
There can't be 7970s under there, at least not full ones with stock clocks. There's just nowhere near enough surface area on that heatsink to dissipate 500W, unless there's barbs sticking out somewhere I can't see.

That was my impression as well. The article suggests it might be two 7970s. The bottom of the motherboard has 2 8 pin power connectors (maybe not 680s), 2 6 pin power connectors, equal amounts of RAM on both sides, a certain number of phases just below CPU socket. This board has 2 "16x PCIE buses," each having a graphics card, then a "8x PCIE bus for other uses around the board"; PCIE 3.0 that is. It does have thunderbolt which makes it quite intriguing. That long yellow and silver colored heatsink... curious to know what is below it, and if it can WC. (Maybe the board comes with a contraption that is placed on the unused expansion slots of the chasis?)
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June 05, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
There can't be 7970s under there, at least not full ones with stock clocks. There's just nowhere near enough surface area on that heatsink to dissipate 500W, unless there's barbs sticking out somewhere I can't see.
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June 05, 2012, 06:12:04 PM
Looks really nice but too expensive and not enough quantities and also much more expensive than just two 7970s and cheap mobo I think especially using SB-E CPU ? No way it's gonna be cheap !
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June 05, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
This is kind of a interesting concept, though do not how long/valuable this would be for mining: two Radeons 7970s (?) integrated on one motherboard, but no pcie expansion slots:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-zeus-combines-x79-hedt-with-dual-gpu/16152.html



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June 05, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
The reason I am thinking is because I would say the regular 7990 cherry picked low leakage chips would be easier to get maximum MH/W compared to the above GAMER chips which need like 500 W alone to function properly.

Good point! I'll take cherry-picked chips (higher ASIC quality?) over whatever hodge podge of 7970 GPUs that PowerColor decides to slap onto the same board.

Yes but I think AMD has given up with 7990 as it cannot compete with GTX 690 at any rate ( gaming / perf ) and mining is small marketshare and they also had thermal issues trying to cool so much heat with only one fan.

Hope I am wrong !
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June 05, 2012, 12:31:07 PM
The reason I am thinking is because I would say the regular 7990 cherry picked low leakage chips would be easier to get maximum MH/W compared to the above GAMER chips which need like 500 W alone to function properly.

Good point! I'll take cherry-picked chips (higher ASIC quality?) over whatever hodge podge of 7970 GPUs that PowerColor decides to slap onto the same board.
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June 05, 2012, 12:28:23 PM
Agreed.  I'm keeping my eye on Computex for the (alleged) 7990 announcement.

The reason I am thinking is because I would say the regular 7990 cherry picked low leakage chips would be easier to get maximum MH/W compared to the above GAMER chips which need like 500 W alone to function properly.

It looks like it was made to OC not be efficient for mining at all  Cry
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