Topic: [PPC] Is Sunny King (of PPCoin) RealSolid (of SolidCoin)? - page 2. (Read 5291 times)

Self-indignant? That's quite a strange expression. And can you ever actually make an argument that isn't about sucking satoshi's cock? Enjoy the cliff dive, little one.

No need to get self-indignant like that You are welcome to start a competing currency and show Satoshi and the world how it was meant to be done properly.

He seems to like doing that, whether intentional or not. In any case, he's a donkey for it.

Is bitcoin a scammy society? Yes. (If you need proof I can provide hundreds of links.) Did satoshi create bitcoin? Yes. Is my observation that satoshi started a scammy society inaccurate? Clearly not. Did I mention anything about governments? Strawman. Is it well within my libertarian rights to scathingly point out the vast theft inherent to the growth of the current crop of cryptocurrencies and the sarcastically serendipitous anonymity of their creators? Certainly. You can play at being coy, stupid, or imply my stupidity, but I will not stand down from my beliefs because you think you have some kind of moral or intellectual superiority and make-believe that it is warranted by calling yourself libertarian.

Hmm I don't know what I said wrong prompted such a response from you.

If you deeply understand privacy, liberty and what cryptocurrency is all about then you wouldn't so cheaply accuse Satoshi of starting a scammy society. In a libertarian society people are supposed to be responsible for their own risk-taking not expect government to drive out all the scammers.

Read more on these topics, Jon Matonis is a good writer on these issues.

Perhaps if I had been referring to the code.


Ohh please educate me, Mr. King, as I am so obviously stupid.


Yeah like everyone knowing that you're a grody, obese, neckbearded nerd.


I didn't claim moral superiority, I claimed that you are a lemming.

So I take it you are not thrilled about the idea of satoshi sitting on ~ 1 million bitcoins that he mined in the early days ?

If the source code is not open then maybe this 'have something to hide' argument would have some merits. With open source I think repeating this line just shows that you don't fully grasp the concept of privacy, liberty and the political nature of cryptocurrencies. Besides, revealing identity might cause other non-political issues to the developer and hamper their ability to continue the work.

Sure if you want to choose to be all open about your identity like Gavin does then fine go for it. Just don't claim moral superiority over those who wish to remain anonymous.

The issue is, as I said, it makes it look like you have something to hide. Perhaps because of the pump and dump aspect of these currencies. Anonymous creators, pyramidal currency distribution, scandal after scandal, etc. The community attracts and fosters scammers by its nature and partly by the precedent set by Satoshi, imo.

Satoshi was anonymous, whats the big issue ?
If this alt coin gains any momentum and then the lead dev decides to pull a move similar to what we saw in Solid Coin we have the option to fork the network.

Thank being said, you could remain anonymous and still deny being 1 individual

I would also like to see an updated white paper or a brief WIP description added to the wiki if the internal workings have changed as much as some claim.

I gotta wonder what the deal is with being anonymous. Who gives a rat's ass? It only makes it look like you have something to hide. Do you post on BTCtalk via tor like the oh great satoshi too, Sunny?

If satoshi's identity is ever revealed, he is well-deserving of the pie-to-the-face treatment for begetting such a scandalous community.

And I highly doubt Sunny is RealSolid. RealSolid is still working on his scamcoin 4.0, though it has been constantly delayed.

Also, if you are RealSolid, I don't think you should hide that fact. You should be open about it and explain why things are different this time. I'd rather know that and be able to see how things have changed, and hear you explain how you learned from the previous failures.

I got to admit, as a person who's just recently become interested in these alternative currencies, it seems every thread I've read on here has made me weary of PPCoin. I think a simple confirm or deny regarding the question of being RealSolid would have been a lot better than this answer. I mean, I respect your desire for anonymity as much as anyone here, but I think it's reasonable to expect an answer to this question.

And yes, I can tell that there are many people here who are critical of you and your project, but I would hope that at some point instead of just being defensive and dismissive, you could address peoples concerns. Especially the technical criticisms that people have been bringing up.

If you really believe that the work you have done has the potential to be embraced by the public and used as a currency, you would think that a couple of people on a message board 'attacking' you or acting 'immature' would not stop you from defending your project.

At this point a random person who reads a few threads here might conclude that it's just another 'scamcoin', but I think if it was a scam the PPCoin people would be doing a much better job at least trying to convince people that it is legit. So at this point I don't even know what to think.

my 2 ppc here (again )

Im a technology 1st person.
I do not care what the source is for knowledge, it does not change the value.

I think any contribution to humanities living knowledge base is a good thing for humanity even if the technology came at a cost to humanity.
There is even great value in researching a bad concept and implementing it.

If Sunny King = Solid Coin and ppcoin does turn out to be a pump and dump alt currency, the community can take the good ideas from ppcoin and implement them in the next altcoin.
If as it turns out he is not, we are detracting from a good technical discussion and interesting altcoin.

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Pathetic. If you didn't come up with this pack of lies yourself then I suggest you stop trusting whoever fed you this garbage, for your own sake.

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Of course you don't want to talk about your identity, because its highly likely you are RealSolid. Thanks.

The centralization is required due to poor design and because Sunny King likes centralization.

The difficulty adjustment happens so fast it can't make it out to the solo miners who aren't using long polling.

Sunny King has gotten the people that posted about these problems to remove them from the forum. Sunny King wants to cover up the truth about PPCoin.

Bitcoin doesn't have this problem because it waits two weeks to calculate difficulty. PPCoin only waits 10 minutes to calculate difficulty so you should expect large swings. Bad design.


Actually it is entirely because of the design. See this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringing_artifacts


Hooray for the pioneers in the RealSolid navy! They never get to go on shore leave because the boat just keeps driving in circles.

This is new to me. Is this something real that you have encountered yourself? If so please provide more details I'd like to look into them. As far as I know solo mining works fine for most miners except for cpuminer 2.x.

As to the oscillations it's also in the other chains but is less obvious due to 2 week adjustment interval. But quite a few chains were having problem recovering from it exactly due to this long adjustment interval.

ppcoin has shown that it can recover from high difficulty and withdrawal of miners quite well. Besides the quick adjustment reduced miner advantage in the initial two weeks. I see plenty of people trying to accuse me of 'effective premining' but conveniently ignore the fact that keeping bitcoin's two weeks adjustment interval would give me a lot more time to do this 'effective premining', which pretty much lasted less than two days for ppcoin. No, there was exactly zero premining with ppcoin and it is fair, at least more fair than most other chains.


I have explained this numerous times, since v0.2 checkpoint only serves to protect the network in the initial growth period. It is not part of core protocol and will be gradually weakened as network matures.

It looks like quite some people are ready to 51% attack a new block chain so yes it's a more responsible way to start an alt coin.

We did quite a bit of work to ensure this form of temporary centralization has less chance of becoming a single point of failure. See solidcoin has some recent problems with their trust nodes and block chain stops. But if ppcoin's checkpoint master node runs into problems most likely block chain would not be affected.

PS At the moment I do not wish to answer questions related to my identity/privacy. So I will ignore all such questions for now.