Topic: [PPC] NothinG's Pool (Beta Testing) (Read 17173 times)

Fuzzybear's analysis seems pretty fair to me. If he didn't dump them back when they were worth something, and long after we mostly forgot about it, I assume he probably did just lose them. I support removing the scammer tag as well.

Ok just to clear the air on NothinG and his original PPC pool.

I have been working on a project here: http://charts.peercointalk.org/

This allows me to scan the blockchain for POW blocks and which address they came from.  I turned it on the start of the blockchain and saw some interesting results.

This combined with my withdraw transactions from the pool I have been able to isolate the address at which the pool was mining the PPC coins to.

Have a look at these transactions:

https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/tx/877419934857b5265fceb69a72570c589a04182d6da64fe986eaefb809e05439
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/tx/370706b9447944da4ab27d73351dd323a3ee9527e8d379c022fc7b746266002c
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/tx/6803fb380c2a687fcb099589a39934ff812b8244867aac5717058d14837c4f38

These I can confirm are transactions to my wallet https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PBYdLfZa9d6bsgq8NQfBLzQ7HJgsYpj4ve

and they show the source of the coins as coming from PAA3yN86ofXMHvFwqKNeEx4YXRPb7gUfK2

Have a look at the current state of the address and last transactions and you can see https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PAA3yN86ofXMHvFwqKNeEx4YXRPb7gUfK2

Balance: 11,535.45 PPC  last transaction - 2012-10-02 17:39:59

So the coins mined at the pool have not moved since October 2nd 2012 and this coincides with the last post date from NothinG on this pool -  Posted on: October 08, 2012, 12:54:52 AM

The PM I got from NothinG when I asked him about the pool was

Was NothinG running mining from different addresses from the start of the pool? maybe is my answer as older transactions to my wallet show the source of the blocks from PD3mSEpYBkqJaxgY9VNgbMfn85DxVra4fM https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PD3mSEpYBkqJaxgY9VNgbMfn85DxVra4fM

Though again this address Balance: 6,488.05 PPC last transaction - 2012-10-02 13:07:58

Also https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PRnPA454UUw7xX55LT152CwJydXx6rxYzF Balance: 3,846.13 PPC last transaction - 2012-09-13 01:51:32

Other addresses possibly linked to the pool but empty:
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PVwwYxFvGa7mkRRopnYvfRTdEudHARbHkb
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PEbZFgW4xUdFoeQAvJuwiCdFuN8X9RLKa3


So it is in my opinion at this point in time that NothinG is telling the truth in that he lost the pool wallet and had no backup.  Or he is still sitting on these coins waiting to offload.  I would suggest removing the scammer tag until these coins move from the addresses:
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PAA3yN86ofXMHvFwqKNeEx4YXRPb7gUfK2 11,535.45 PPC
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PD3mSEpYBkqJaxgY9VNgbMfn85DxVra4fM 6,488.05 PPC
https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/address/PRnPA454UUw7xX55LT152CwJydXx6rxYzF 3,846.13 PPC

Fuzzybear

NothinG should be labeled a Scammer. He/She is active on the forum but does not reply to messages regarding the return of our PPC. I have reason to believe, although not 100% substantiated, that he is possibly associated with a bitcoin server hosting firm. I would ask if we can label him a scammer and ask the admins to release the access IPs of NothinG to compare them with known IPs from this firm.

I am willing to take a cut on the PPC owed considering the amount it has appreciated, but NothinG should be labeled a scammer.

Still no word from him huh? I'm temped to label as a scammer, but if he never comes back- whats the point? If he comes back and doesn't return the coins, THEN he's a scammer.

Well last message was his comp broke and he was setting up a new one... but that some time ago now and can even discount the inability to remember passwords for this forum etc as he logged in and updated this thread since then... so yeah either something else has happened in RL that means NothingG isn't here... but yeah I probably waiting on 3-5000 coins from his pool so if he never returns then scammer tag it may seem... but i hope ity doesn't come to that.... WHERE ARE YOU NothingG??.......

I know... i'll start looking in the back alleyways between websites, see if he just got drunk one evening and woke up and can't find his way home

So if we just never hear from NothinG again, can we still label him a scammer?

Still no news on NothingG, our Coins, and the pool?

Is this PPC's scam/fail number one?

I'm a bit worried how now one else has stepped up to say "no worries, working for me" or something like that. The silence is telling.

Well every Crypto-currency needs it's own scams at some point. Lets hope this is not the first of them! :-)

Yeah no idea and I waiting on a load of coins in his PPC pool site ... hope he just taken a 2 week vacation or something!!

Anyone know where NothinG is at? I see he hasn't been on the forum in almost ten days. (HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!>!?!?)

how are things going with the pool? I tried to log in to collect my coins but nothing loads?

good to hear!

I am back, sorry I've been gone for so long. My laptop died and I couldn't get it to a working condition (took me almost 2 weeks to accept that my laptop was actually dead). After that, I decided to go ahead and start working on my new computer.

I just got all the parts in Friday, starting working on installing basic drivers and software (as well as going into Saturday after work). I'm still getting everything upgraded (software like filezilla, winscp, notepad++, and VS12) so I should be able to push out payments hopefully tomorrow if not, Tuesday.

Hey NothingG,

I helped mine a number of blocks last week in ur pool and the blocks have confirmed, yet my balance is not updating... Any chance u could update the pool, or are u looking into proof of stake in the wallet and coins??

Still want to support ur pool, so please keep up the good work

Long live PPC!!

I have mined on your pool for a bit and have accumulated shares there. As of 4 days or so I still do not have a PPC balance even though the blocks I would have worked on have met the 520 confirmations.

How long after blocks become legit do we expect a payout? Thanks

The block confirmations are automatic, where as the payout-shares is done manually.
The stats page (aside from the server stats (not pool) and verified balance (-1 PPC)) should not be trusted. It's there just to be general and kinda get an idea how much blocks are worth.
I've got a page that I use from time-to-time to tell me how many coins are still in the wallet.

Sorry for my sacarstic previous post, just reread it... I manage myself a pool so I know how it can be...

Anyway I'm sure one of my ppc disappeared ( not a real prob for me) just to signal it to you.

Then the other request was about blocks and share associated. I feel like I didndt been credit for all blocks I helped to mine. Anyway for this part that just feeling and personnal checking on stats page... but its impossible to check and be sure at 100% in stats page how much share a user done on block. But i know where my miners was open and so what block i mined and i often didnt see my PPC verified increase when a new block reach 560 confirm... Well I hope you understand me

I'm not even sure how that would be possible.
I don't have anywhere in the code that would take 1 from anyone's account aside from the balance it shows at the top of the page or if you're withdrawing.

Either way, I didn't expect my pool to be up this long.
It's been more trouble that expected, but I'll keep it up for whoever wants to use it.

I didn't requested a withdraw, the 1ppc gone from my balance, was 141, then 140 later...when it should up after a new block validation which I helped to mine, for the one I got no PPC and even have 1 less.... Anyway I moved on another pool, thanks for reply.

The site shows your credits - 1 PPC.
The 1 PPC is used for transaction fees when you withdraw.