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Topic: 🌟🚀 [Pre-ANN] AZULIK: adding privacy to DAG fee-less instant transactions 🌟🚀 (Read 7245 times)

newbie
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To our donators,

A member asked us in PM about the fund withdrawal.
We have been deeply shocked to see that the funds are not in our donation wallet anymore.
All the donations were sent to our cold wallets. These paper wallets were only stored in an encrypted USB key and we backup our seeds in an encrypted .rar file. We sent this file to our-self through email.
The USB key being still with us, we tried to connect to our email account and the following message appeared:

https://image.ibb.co/nRx3oS/hackproof.jpg

Our private keys have been stolen from our email account.
It seems unbelievable that we stored such sensible information online, but this email address doesn't exist for other people. We used it to create our account here and store our seeds backup, nothing else.  No-one should know about this email address.
Few days after someone on the forum asked us if we reply to email sent to this address, we realized that it was actually made public. However we didn't realized at the moment that it could lead to the hack of our email account and we just hide our email address on our profile.

We feel so bad, destroyed, we will do our best to sent back all donations with our own funds and funds of the coin ICO, however it will take time for some of you.


Regarding Azulik's future, we need to have a break from the project and step back as we feel really ashamed toward our donators. We know the best way to restore confidence is to continue the work on the project but we currently lost the willingness to work on it. We don't feel strong enough at the moment to support all the pressure and fight against the scam accusation. We will finish the work on this project, not immediately. At the moment we won't enjoy working on it.  Furthermore we will have to change the name, and redo many things to make a clean start. After that,  we will launch a proper ICO distribution and we will have the opportunity to gift our current donators with free coin, once everything is ready and hopefully forget this nightmare.

We don't ask you to believe us and we understand your doubts, we would feel the same, we will do everything we can to fix it.
newbie
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Just give money to anonymous people without any guarantee of product delivery.
copper member
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Vamos a ver que futuro tiene este proyecto, me gustaria que fuera real

We all want it to be real my friend. we all do.
newbie
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Vamos a ver que futuro tiene este proyecto, me gustaria que fuera real
newbie
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As far as I have understand, adding provacy comes with the downside of introducing fees as DPOS comes in play. Therefor, it is not fee-less anymore. I encourage you to find another solution.
newbie
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So, where is the Homepage? I am looking at this project for some time, and am not convinced yet to support or just watch.
Anything to show here?
full member
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I'm about to donate but there are two points which are a little worrisome to me.

1. There was another member who requested a statement from the developers regarding the copied parts of the dtic pdf, it seems that post got deleted, why?

2. Some funds of the nano donation address have been moved, I've read somewhere in the thread that it got moved because one of the donators want to stay private. This doesn't make sense to me, as everyone can check all incoming/outgoing transactions. Could you please elaborate?

p.s. just in case this post gets deleted, be sure that I'll definitely move this discussion to reddit if that happens.

that was me. i posted-- dev what say you? to the images i found in DAG FOMO discord
https://i.imgur.com/08FYbRI.png
https://imgur.com/a/efuoh
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28786249

I DM'd AZULIKproject here and explained the projected was great in theory, was excited, and if legit let me help spread the word before 3/16 date. Asked for more transparency and additional clarification/detail to share. I received the following DM responses in summary..

#1 we've already answered/responded to this...
That was it... based on my research the original concern was deleted and posted to a different thread by mistake or as a last resort. We still do not have clarity...

#2 if you want to help, dont spread fear and delete your post
So okay I thought, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, delete the post and see if I get info. I received the second DM above within 30 minutes of my re so I was hopeful. It has been 72 hours since and I have received no additional info.

The Nano dev team is aware of this Pre-Ann, as +B told me directly in Discord. The caution against any project in Pre-Ann requesting donations as they do not support this.

All that said, I'm reposting for the community to make their own decisions.

My take: Maybe it's a scam, maybe they're trying and it wont work, maybe they stumble onto something legit. Who knows.  

Bottom line: I'm hopeful, no FUD, no FOMO, just going to wait until 3/16 and see what happens. Time will sort everything out.

I think we will find the truth on 16th May, maybe later, if Azulik post something about delay. Until we will see own whitepaper and code is pretty hard to believe that this coin will be next "golden egg"
copper member
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I'm about to donate but there are two points which are a little worrisome to me.

1. There was another member who requested a statement from the developers regarding the copied parts of the dtic pdf, it seems that post got deleted, why?

2. Some funds of the nano donation address have been moved, I've read somewhere in the thread that it got moved because one of the donators want to stay private. This doesn't make sense to me, as everyone can check all incoming/outgoing transactions. Could you please elaborate?

p.s. just in case this post gets deleted, be sure that I'll definitely move this discussion to reddit if that happens.

that was me. i posted-- dev what say you? to the images i found in DAG FOMO discord
https://i.imgur.com/08FYbRI.png
https://imgur.com/a/efuoh
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28786249

I DM'd AZULIKproject here and explained the projected was great in theory, was excited, and if legit let me help spread the word before 3/16 date. Asked for more transparency and additional clarification/detail to share. I received the following DM responses in summary..

#1 we've already answered/responded to this...
That was it... based on my research the original concern was deleted and posted to a different thread by mistake or as a last resort. We still do not have clarity...

#2 if you want to help, dont spread fear and delete your post
So okay I thought, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, delete the post and see if I get info. I received the second DM above within 30 minutes of my re so I was hopeful. It has been 72 hours since and I have received no additional info.

The Nano dev team is aware of this Pre-Ann, as +B told me directly in Discord. The caution against any project in Pre-Ann requesting donations as they do not support this.

All that said, I'm reposting for the community to make their own decisions.

My take: Maybe it's a scam, maybe they're trying and it wont work, maybe they stumble onto something legit. Who knows. 

Bottom line: I'm hopeful, no FUD, no FOMO, just going to wait until 3/16 and see what happens. Time will sort everything out.
newbie
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Any update on testnet ? Has the donation period over or are you still accepting donations ?
I am interested to donate,if everything is going as planned and I if can see some code

I believe the devs will show their code at the same time they deliver the final white paper (March 16 is what they have said). A question for all of you out there that understand open source code as I don’t know the first thing about coding. If the devs post all of their code for everyone to see it couldn’t someone just copy it and create a clone coin?
Technically yes. But the clone will go hardly any far and is sure destined for the dumps, if it comes to everyone's knowledge it was a copy.
copper member
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Any update on testnet ? Has the donation period over or are you still accepting donations ?
I am interested to donate,if everything is going as planned and I if can see some code

I believe the devs will show their code at the same time they deliver the final white paper (March 16 is what they have said). A question for all of you out there that understand open source code as I don’t know the first thing about coding. If the devs post all of their code for everyone to see it couldn’t someone just copy it and create a clone coin?
jr. member
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Any update on testnet ? Has the donation period over or are you still accepting donations ?
I am interested to donate,if everything is going as planned and I if can see some code
newbie
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Merit: 0
I'm about to donate but there are two points which are a little worrisome to me.

1. There was another member who requested a statement from the developers regarding the copied parts of the dtic pdf, it seems that post got deleted, why?

2. Some funds of the nano donation address have been moved, I've read somewhere in the thread that it got moved because one of the donators want to stay private. This doesn't make sense to me, as everyone can check all incoming/outgoing transactions. Could you please elaborate?

p.s. just in case this post gets deleted, be sure that I'll definitely move this discussion to reddit if that happens.
full member
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Merit: 102
Anyone out there have an opinion on which coin has the best GUI for a wallet?
I would say that you seek solution on a wrong place Smiley
copper member
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Anyone out there have an opinion on which coin has the best GUI for a wallet?
newbie
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newbie
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AzulikProject said:

Thank you, i will add you to the list of donator.
We will keep the funds in the dev wallet and not touch it, we will justify each use we make with your funds such as our office rental and hardware things for our new office or a company to work on the website...
newbie
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Any word regarding today's withdrawal?

This looked very weird to me, until I realized that nanode is the one that's weird. It look like the devs have not opened their wallet up yet to receive the new send block, so nanode shows it as a pending send which is in red, but it will become a receive block which will show in the wallet as green. It's weird that nanode shows it as a pending send in red when it should be incoming as green. The website makes it look like the wallet is spending more than it has, but I guess asynchronous payments makes things a bit weird. 

Thanks for clearing this up.
newbie
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can i donate eth?and when can get the azulikcoins?
full member
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So is this also going on the way of manta and stone, or do we have some real work here
these days, random dag projects just popped up, be careful guys.
Dev has been communicative, unlike with Manta and Stone. I believe we'll see some real progress here.
Yes that guy was communicated a month ago, but unfortunately is not anymore, at least in my personal case Smiley
newbie
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Any word regarding today's withdrawal?

This looked very weird to me, until I realized that nanode is the one that's weird. It look like the devs have not opened their wallet up yet to receive the new send block, so nanode shows it as a pending send which is in red, but it will become a receive block which will show in the wallet as green. It's weird that nanode shows it as a pending send in red when it should be incoming as green. The website makes it look like the wallet is spending more than it has, but I guess asynchronous payments makes things a bit weird. 
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