Topic: [PRE-ANN] Building an ASIC Hosting Center with Management (In United States) (Read 2904 times)
March 03, 2014, 01:02:01 PM
Just installed another 30 tons of cooling and 200 amps of capacity
April 07, 2013, 08:17:58 PM
It has highspeed internet available and cheap power (5.5/kwh).
Not cheap enough. Douglas County, WA has power at half this rate ($0.0233/kWh): http://www.douglaspud.org/Service/Schedule1GeneralService.aspx
Megabidpower.com is already building a DC there, and will sell power at $0.04/kWh: http://megabigpower.com/
Please take this debate about the cheapest power somewhere else, thanks. Yes, I have actually been to Douglas county when I was GPU mining.
This is not a debate. You asked for feedback. I gave you feedback.
I was expecting an answer where you would explain why power cost does not seem important enough to make it the #1 priority...
As time goes on and difficulty increases, it becomes more important. With cheaper power, other costs go up so it is better not to bring on additional costs until they are needed. #1 priority is technical support and constant internet connection right now. It is over 200 miles east from Seattle over the mountain pass. Many areas only have one ILEC for internet and sometimes no cable internet so getting redundancy can be problematic. If we go the T1 route then that adds additional cost. You need to figure in onsite technical support if our remote link fails or I would need to drive 4 hours to get onsite. Getting enough clients would allow everyone to only have to burden a small piece of the costs.
With that said, I have had some additional demand so I am actually crunching numbers to see when it will make sense to go that route. Currently I have a two hosting location in Seattle and with the reduced costs in other areas, allows it to make sense keeping it close by at this stage.
Sorry about calling it a debate, your question is valid and I hope to enlightens you a little more into my plan at this point, in the end, yes I am working on a transition long term into some of the cheapest power in the United States if not anywhere period.
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April 07, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
It has highspeed internet available and cheap power (5.5/kwh).
Not cheap enough. Douglas County, WA has power at half this rate ($0.0233/kWh): http://www.douglaspud.org/Service/Schedule1GeneralService.aspx
Megabidpower.com is already building a DC there, and will sell power at $0.04/kWh: http://megabigpower.com/
Please take this debate about the cheapest power somewhere else, thanks. Yes, I have actually been to Douglas county when I was GPU mining.
This is not a debate. You asked for feedback. I gave you feedback.
I was expecting an answer where you would explain why power cost does not seem important enough to make it the #1 priority...
April 07, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
It does but if u go real cheap, it is remote.
I see. Yeah we wouldn't want some bears chewing on our ASIC miners. So what is the average Kw/H cost in your area?
I currently get .10 kw/h, once another office opens in my building, that will be .00 kw/h
Once you get outside of Seattle, it gets even cheaper than that, down to .02 near dams.I'm currently on 0.07 so for now I wouldn't be interested but 0.02 is really good and no doubt once the network is dominated by ASIC miners then kw/h rate will become very important. Maybe then I shall give you a shout if you still have room. Good luck!
Please do keep me in mind. Don't just look at the power, but also the management of the miners, technical support, security and environmental controls, I offer all those as well. Cheers!
April 06, 2013, 09:27:19 AM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
It does but if u go real cheap, it is remote.
I see. Yeah we wouldn't want some bears chewing on our ASIC miners. So what is the average Kw/H cost in your area?
I currently get .10 kw/h, once another office opens in my building, that will be .00 kw/h
Once you get outside of Seattle, it gets even cheaper than that, down to .02 near dams.I'm currently on 0.07 so for now I wouldn't be interested but 0.02 is really good and no doubt once the network is dominated by ASIC miners then kw/h rate will become very important. Maybe then I shall give you a shout if you still have room. Good luck!
April 06, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
It does but if u go real cheap, it is remote.
I see. Yeah we wouldn't want some bears chewing on our ASIC miners. So what is the average Kw/H cost in your area?
I currently get .10 kw/h, once another office opens in my building, that will be .00 kw/h
Once you get outside of Seattle, it gets even cheaper than that, down to .02 near dams. April 06, 2013, 08:45:26 AM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Dalkore, but a friend oversee an operation in the Midwest while you live in Seattle doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
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Location: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Having someone dependable is key. If you set up your infrastructure right with the right people, it could be anywhere. The midwest location was an idea and I am still acquiring the property. Cheap maybe different for us, this is a sweetheart deal.
So, it's safe to assume you're picking up the property regardless? I'm in Sandwich, IL, and not asking exactly where the building is located, but approximately how far do you think it's away from my location? Which direction is not important either. Only asking cause I'm curious and wanted to increase my post count before I hit the hay and dream about (insert farm animal(s) here).
The location will not be disclosed publicly for many reasons.
April 06, 2013, 08:44:33 AM
It has highspeed internet available and cheap power (5.5/kwh).
Not cheap enough. Douglas County, WA has power at half this rate ($0.0233/kWh): http://www.douglaspud.org/Service/Schedule1GeneralService.aspx
Megabidpower.com is already building a DC there, and will sell power at $0.04/kWh: http://megabigpower.com/
Please take this debate about the cheapest power somewhere else, thanks. Yes, I have actually been to Douglas county when I was GPU mining.
April 06, 2013, 08:43:59 AM
I would be interested, but I dont think im in for the short term. When asics will be widely available thats when I will contact you on this. But until then you won't have anymore space, I guess
April 06, 2013, 08:12:17 AM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
It does but if u go real cheap, it is remote.
I see. Yeah we wouldn't want some bears chewing on our ASIC miners. So what is the average Kw/H cost in your area?
April 06, 2013, 04:52:53 AM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Dalkore, but a friend oversee an operation in the Midwest while you live in Seattle doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
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Location: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Having someone dependable is key. If you set up your infrastructure right with the right people, it could be anywhere. The midwest location was an idea and I am still acquiring the property. Cheap maybe different for us, this is a sweetheart deal.
So, it's safe to assume you're picking up the property regardless? I'm in Sandwich, IL, and not asking exactly where the building is located, but approximately how far do you think it's away from my location? Which direction is not important either. Only asking cause I'm curious and wanted to increase my post count before I hit the hay and dream about (insert farm animal(s) here).
I don't think you should be dreaming about inserting things into farm animals.
April 06, 2013, 03:04:28 AM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Dalkore, but a friend oversee an operation in the Midwest while you live in Seattle doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
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Location: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Having someone dependable is key. If you set up your infrastructure right with the right people, it could be anywhere. The midwest location was an idea and I am still acquiring the property. Cheap maybe different for us, this is a sweetheart deal.
So, it's safe to assume you're picking up the property regardless? I'm in Sandwich, IL, and not asking exactly where the building is located, but approximately how far do you think it's away from my location? Which direction is not important either. Only asking cause I'm curious and wanted to increase my post count before I hit the hay and dream about (insert farm animal(s) here).
April 06, 2013, 02:53:11 AM
It has highspeed internet available and cheap power (5.5/kwh).
Not cheap enough. Douglas County, WA has power at half this rate ($0.0233/kWh): http://www.douglaspud.org/Service/Schedule1GeneralService.aspx
Megabidpower.com is already building a DC there, and will sell power at $0.04/kWh: http://megabigpower.com/
April 06, 2013, 01:33:28 AM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
It does but if u go real cheap, it is remote.
April 06, 2013, 01:32:19 AM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Dalkore, but a friend oversee an operation in the Midwest while you live in Seattle doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Quote
Location: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Having someone dependable is key. If you set up your infrastructure right with the right people, it could be anywhere. The midwest location was an idea and I am still acquiring the property. Cheap maybe different for us, this is a sweetheart deal.
April 05, 2013, 08:07:40 PM
Doesn't Washingston State have cheaper power anyways? I mean all those rivers and hydro dams gotta be good for something.
April 05, 2013, 08:03:27 PM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Dalkore, but having a friend oversee an operation in the Midwest while you live in Seattle doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
Quote
Location: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm sure there's a myriad of buildings available on the cheap where you're located.
April 05, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
This makes no sense.. more like the wandering mind of a limo driver
Why would you bother with all this just to host ASIC miners? Why not open a full fledge datacenter? Unless you are going to have a lot of 'minor miner downtime' while you mine for yourself...
Also.. having a dude crash at the place is not 'security'
I think you would not register this buidling at all as a business and act like it is just your extended basement hobby to anyone asking.. i work in datacenters, you do not know one thing on setting climate control environment
everyone lie with bitcoins
Why would you bother with all this just to host ASIC miners? Why not open a full fledge datacenter? Unless you are going to have a lot of 'minor miner downtime' while you mine for yourself...
Also.. having a dude crash at the place is not 'security'
I think you would not register this buidling at all as a business and act like it is just your extended basement hobby to anyone asking.. i work in datacenters, you do not know one thing on setting climate control environment
everyone lie with bitcoins
Your entertaining. You "think" and you "assume" are the keys words from a junior stranger that knows very little about me. Sounds like qualified opinion...
April 05, 2013, 07:10:04 PM
You going to have the following?
- reedudant internet connections with diverse paths?
- halon fire suppression
- environmental controls
- deisel power generator
all this is supplied when use a server collocation service.
- reedudant internet connections with diverse paths?
- halon fire suppression
- environmental controls
- deisel power generator
all this is supplied when use a server collocation service.
Internet - In my current location I have that and this would be something I agree with.
Fire - Looking into this.
Environmental Controls - Yes, it is a sealed room with air conditioning.
Generator - Have a generator. Also if power was out for an extended period, I have two backup locations under agreement, would only suffer 4-12 hours of downtime
April 05, 2013, 04:16:59 PM
This makes no sense.. more like the wandering mind of a limo driver
Why would you bother with all this just to host ASIC miners? Why not open a full fledge datacenter? Unless you are going to have a lot of 'minor miner downtime' while you mine for yourself...
Also.. having a dude crash at the place is not 'security'
I think you would not register this buidling at all as a business and act like it is just your extended basement hobby to anyone asking.. i work in datacenters, you do not know one thing on setting climate control environment
everyone lie with bitcoins
Why would you bother with all this just to host ASIC miners? Why not open a full fledge datacenter? Unless you are going to have a lot of 'minor miner downtime' while you mine for yourself...
Also.. having a dude crash at the place is not 'security'
I think you would not register this buidling at all as a business and act like it is just your extended basement hobby to anyone asking.. i work in datacenters, you do not know one thing on setting climate control environment
everyone lie with bitcoins
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