Topic: PRE-ANN: CENTZ CROWDSALE - Trillion dollar giftcard industry on the blockchain - page 5. (Read 10844 times)

The Centz solution does indeed work for ANY gift card balance. This is where Centz is truly different. Our patent-pending process will allow you to combine all your unwanted/unused cards, full balance even those with just a few dollars left, and convert them into the Centz Gold Bucks on our platform. You can then shop our market of gift cards you really want and use your Gold Bucks balance to purchase them. No more small or fractional balances sitting around collecting dust!

Our explainer video is found here:  http://www.centz.net/videos/CentzExplainer.mp4

Larry Christopher Bates is a scammer and quite frankly, you should not allow Bitland to be traded anymore on the openledger platform.

By allowing it to carry on trading, you are allowing Mr Bates the scammer to keep dumping cadastrals and pocketing BTC.

Let him go and get Bitland on that Japanese exchange where supposedly 1 cadastral will be worth $10.

Do the right thing and ban his scam from Open Ledger.

Its a sad story to have someone from another project come to this one to continue same way he is pursuing on another thread, but it seems someone never will learn. He has nothing to loose it seems, so all here please bear with this kind of incident and forget about him, it is by far the easisest thing we can all do, but it might allow anyone here doubting to understand my attempt to be as displomatic earlier as possible, it seems it just did not help. Too bad, another soap opera seems ready to kick off due to some individual who we of course all know the name of thinks he is above all ethics  and normal human behaviour. Shame on him. I will not be back here anymore, it is simply just too depressing to follow this kind of people and their constant need for attention.

Larry Christopher Bates wrote the decentralized conglomerate theory on which CCEDK is based, but then Ronny will try to act like i did nothing...

I created the theoretical foundation that saved your ass from committing securities fraud ronny...you can't run from that

not only that, YOU trying to fuck us is just going to follow you around forever now...you were so dumb doing that

i did so much goddamn work for ronny, and then he tries to act like somehow "bitland" gave him some grand lesson about trust...yeah, you tried to fuck us, and we were smarter than you...

you are brazen...

VERY brazen ronny...

lol,


this is so fucking funny...goddamn ronny, you are much dumber than i thought...not only are you trying to throw us under the bus, you forget i saved your ass from committing securities fraud how many times?

you're a goddamn idiot to try and paint us anywhere near "shady"...

holy shit, you are so out of your element

This is hilarious.

Ronny tried to fuck the Bitland project big time. 

Him trying to point the finger at "us" is not only hilarious it is so far from what happened.  Ronny is a fucking weasel, and he knows it.


Ronny, you fucked up big time.

I can translate in Turkish. pls rezerv  
You better send an information pm.

Centz offers an interesting solution, I just wonder how/if this can work for ANY gift card balance. and how they gonna do it in general

Interesting project, please reserve Japanese translation for me.

When I see the daily turnover I get so much excited about it that my feet start to tinkle. I have never seen such high volume as on openledger.

The Bitland person who you are referring to is Chris Bates and he has been busy dumping all of Bitland tokens on your platform and then transferring Bitshares to sell off on Poloniex.

The fact that this is still being allowed to take place on Open Ledger just killed any shred of legitimacy that you might be trying to convey, in my personal opinion.

How much did you get from Bitland?

Hope it was worth it because Bitland left Open Ledger's reputation in tatters.....

As for Centz, it does sound extremely promising but the current valuations are just too high.

I agree with you, all this pre-valued tokens, I don't even know how they come up with their valuation. Incent, Golem, SNGLS, Fisrtblood, VSlice all dropped significantly below the ICO price when they hit exchanges and all have fixed ICO price. I like the concept but the valuation is too high for me.

I think they are more or less all mentioned in above answer, and yes all ICO's on OpenLedger will be running fueled by ICOO, allowing ICOO holders to benefit from the revenues achieved from services and solutions offered, which are among others covering the following:

Marketing: Branding, Product Validation, Marketing & Business Strategy, Website Design & Creation, Investor Relations, Content Creation, Blog Promotion, Advertising, Whitepaper Creation, Translations, Video Production, Newsletter Coverage

Public Relations: Press Release Services, Media Coverage, Interview Arrangements

Legal: Legal Analysis, Regulatory Analysis, Token Structure Advising

Crowdfunding Technology: Asset Issuing, Asset Distribution, Crowdfunding Module, Multisig Escrow Service, Pre-Token Trading, Token Exit Options, and Token Crowdsale Page Creation
               
The above services are everything a startup requires to run a successful crowdfunding campaign.

I think allover the ICO's handled sofar have gone satisfactorily, we have, however, improved our criteria for choosing the startups we wish to support, which again has made it more time consuming to prepare each one, but I believ the outcome and benefit to investors of the startup itself as well as the holders of the ICOO tokens will be so much greater in the end.

Evolution is the name of the game, and we try every day to improve on all levels to make the overall outcome bets possible for all parties involved.

In general we are also trying to move from calling it ICO to more naming it crowdsale or ISO as in Initial Stake Offering simply to take this way of crowdsourcing to the next level.

Regards

Ronny Boesing
CEO
OpenLedger Aps

another ICO from ccedk & Ronny? How did the previous ones go? And will this be in ICOO?

We have learned from Bitland and the person running the show here on bitcointalk who is not the CEO by the way, and since then OpenLedger has insisted on being the party issuing and holding tokens and made it impossible for any startups to make use of assets not sold after ICO has ended.

It is one of the reasons why we are spending almost a month vetting each company now, before we decide to go all in and support in full.

Good examples can be made with Blockpay coming up with main crowdsale in middle of 2017, HEAT apparently finally launcing the platform next week or start paying back funds, DGD which was offered 10X higher on OL with success, Nexium from Beyond The Void introduced at 10x the price of end ICO rate on Polo and as result made all users on OpenLedger buy the entire sell wall, and then go on Polo to make great profit selling it there. Decent which has not launched yet, Incent which is offered higher than the early backers paid, but less than what the ICO participants have paid, but that is still too early to use as valid info except that it is normal you try to push price down to later make a gain when product is presented.

I think like with anything else the best you can do is learn from the episodes and actions and do things better, and this is what we are constantly doing to avoid that any investors, sponsors or backers wind up with a bad experience.

All the best

Ronny Boesing
CEO
OpenLedger

oh please....

this is crypto

everything is pump and dump

also there is a 99% chance this will be trading under ICO prices in the future especially if this is taking place on Openledger...

The last ICO I remember looking at on Openledger was Bitland which is now lying in the gutter....

Centz project will be activated only when minimum has been reached, otherwise funds will be returned. Centz receive no tokens on their own, centz is not meant as a token for pump and dump, which is also why you need a certain incentive to buy in early. You can easily buy during crowdsale as well and still have what is needed to consider it a solid choice. It has nothing to do with the price point as it would have been offered one year later most probably at minimum 20 USD on the stock market and based on initial VC funding. The choice has been to offer it this way instead, time will show if crypto is still too young to appreciate these kinds of offers.