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legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
July 15, 2014, 08:15:05 PM
Guys please calm down.

1. Everyone is buying at the same price, so there is no such thing as bag holding.
2. More even distribution means less price manipulation by big holders.
3. Mining rewards kick in slowly so the main source of coin distribution and not miners.

I've been very clear about how this runs: there is a minimum safe period to buy - that means, the sale will remain open for 7 days as stated. After that, the sale can and will end abruptly.
I am sorry someone chose to make such a large purchase, but if they had chosen to be discrete and spread it over a few addresses no-one would know.

The enthusiasm for Viacoin should be a source of joy. That it will be difficult for people to manipulate is a good thing. From what I can see, it's not often a decent coin comes along with a vision. But money and time don't grow on trees. There is no way to develop a coin well without financial incentives.

I did not create Viacoin for a quick bit of trading. I had a problem I wanted to solve, saw a niche, waited months to see how things would progress in the crypto-sphere, and eventually took steps to make this happen.

I had no idea this would become a big thing like this so quickly. I am under a lot of pressure as it is to ensure things go smoothly, so take that into consideration.



Can you make a way to refund our investment, like Crypti, the information in the picture misleads someone of us.
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 100
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
July 15, 2014, 08:14:48 PM
got it!

last thing, you have said here before that the ICO will last for sure until the last minute of the 15th of july. from that point further, what will effect the duration of the ICO?? is there a limit of BTC you are hoping to achieve? is there a certain amount of users you're looking for? don't just say "it will end when i say so" please elaborate.

I will announce a fixed cutoff time in the next 24 hours. I am under a lot of pressure to end the presale tomorrow at 23:59:59 UTC so there is a high possibility it will end then.

You should cut off the time today at 23:59:59UTC instead of tomorrow silently.

Because if you do that tomorrow, maybe some speculator would buy a huge percent just just before the deadline as you claimed.

That's would be unfair for early investors.
Your are so greedy much than crypti.


I think via are so greedy much than crypti.crypti just 750btc for 75%,via 500btc sitll not over for 10%.

No, not just because of the price, but the rule.

Crypti never broke there rule to a bad direction, the only rule change is to set a total cap, which is a good direction for investors.
and anyone can quit easily by refund.

But, for Via, no way to quit as early investors, the rule changes many times, and, many misleading.

See the stupid "LAST CHANCE" in the promote image.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
July 15, 2014, 08:14:07 PM
All the people here butthurt about IPO not closed yet.

Next time, read the rules before investing in something. I am invested in VIA as well, and as much as it sucks that someone owns a 10%+ share, it is what it is. No one has control over it, not even the dev. There was never a restriction or limit on investment, and even if there was, it could've easily been circumvented by using a different deposit address.

Just hang tight. I'm sure the IPO will end soon (especially as pressure to close is building), but dont get childish about the current buy-ins. If you guys did your research on IPOs (not that this one is a scamcoin IPO), you'd realize that last minute HUGE buy-ins are expected. TBH, i very well expected a buy of 100+ BTC in the last safe hour.

Let the dev do what he needs to do to ensure a smooth launch and continue to be patient..
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 500
July 15, 2014, 08:12:55 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
all sales are final



No there not, check support page.

Refunds can be requested after ICO is closed and refunds can be requested in first 5 days after ICO closed.

So we can get a refund, considering this option too. People's greed wrecks everything, fcken greedy idiots come on 60 btc.


Support page also says that ICO could last a few more days after July 15...

Nothing in the support page.


Sorry mistake check the "About" page its there.


Also in terms understood it but whats the time for? thats why i thought ICO closes today at midnight.

The pre-sale will start from July 8th and last for a minimum of 7 days. It will then end randomly at some point afterwards (ending 23:59:59 UTC).
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 100
hehe
July 15, 2014, 08:11:04 PM

break the issue price
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
July 15, 2014, 08:10:49 PM
Guys please calm down.

1. Everyone is buying at the same price, so there is no such thing as bag holding.
2. More even distribution means less price manipulation by big holders.
3. Mining rewards kick in slowly so the main source of coin distribution and not miners.

I've been very clear about how this runs: there is a minimum safe period to buy - that means, the sale will remain open for 7 days as stated. After that, the sale can and will end abruptly.
I am sorry someone chose to make such a large purchase, but if they had chosen to be discrete and spread it over a few addresses no-one would know.

The enthusiasm for Viacoin should be a source of joy. That it will be difficult for people to manipulate is a good thing. From what I can see, it's not often a decent coin comes along with a vision. But money and time don't grow on trees. There is no way to develop a coin well without financial incentives for miners to secure the network.

I did not create Viacoin for a quick bit of trading. I had a problem I wanted to solve, saw a niche, waited months to see how things would progress in the crypto-sphere, and eventually took steps to make this happen.

I had no idea this would become a big thing like this so quickly. I am under a lot of pressure as it is to ensure things go smoothly, so take that into consideration.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
July 15, 2014, 08:09:51 PM
got it!

last thing, you have said here before that the ICO will last for sure until the last minute of the 15th of july. from that point further, what will effect the duration of the ICO?? is there a limit of BTC you are hoping to achieve? is there a certain amount of users you're looking for? don't just say "it will end when i say so" please elaborate.

I will announce a fixed cutoff time in the next 24 hours. I am under a lot of pressure to end the presale tomorrow at 23:59:59 UTC so there is a high possibility it will end then.

You should cut off the time today at 23:59:59UTC instead of tomorrow silently.

Because if you do that tomorrow, maybe some speculator would buy a huge percent just just before the deadline as you claimed.

That's would be unfair for early investors.
Your are so greedy much than crypti.


I think via are so greedy much than crypti.crypti just 750btc for 75%,via 500btc sitll not over for 10%.
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 100
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
July 15, 2014, 08:08:52 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
all sales are final



No there not, check support page.

Refunds can be requested after ICO is closed and refunds can be requested in first 5 days after ICO closed.

So we can get a refund, considering this option too. People's greed wrecks everything, fcken greedy idiots come on 60 btc.


Support page also says that ICO could last a few more days after July 15...

Nothing in the support page.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
July 15, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
Ill be mining this instead.. Grin


ill let the bag holders prop up the price
sr. member
Activity: 267
Merit: 250
July 15, 2014, 08:06:14 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?

Read the terms all sales are final
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
July 15, 2014, 08:05:20 PM
The ipo percentage is just 10% and they have raised 533 BTC, it's better to mine instead of joining in the IPO.

2.5 btc will get you over 40,000 coins currently, mining that much would require 100% of hash and solving every block for over 24-48 hours........its still cheaper to buy into IPO
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
July 15, 2014, 08:05:07 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
all sales are final

It's a bit little like rob our money, Crypti is greedy but we can refund our money.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 500
July 15, 2014, 08:04:35 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
all sales are final



No there not, check support page.

Refunds can be requested after ICO is closed and refunds can be requested in first 5 days after ICO closed.

So we can get a refund, considering this option too. People's greed wrecks everything, fcken greedy idiots come on 60 btc.


Support page also says that ICO could last a few more days after July 15...
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 100
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
July 15, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
How to refund?

The @dev broke the ICO rule again and again, if I knew this, I should never attend the ICO
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
July 15, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
The ipo percentage is just 10% and they have raised 533 BTC, it's better to mine instead of joining in the IPO.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
July 15, 2014, 08:00:54 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
all sales are final
legendary
Activity: 1647
Merit: 1012
Practising Hebrew before visiting Israel
July 15, 2014, 07:58:13 PM
Lol, We are already bagholders and the coin is not even launched yet.
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
July 15, 2014, 07:57:50 PM

"Last Chance" was misleading

not to those of us that read the entire message, and not just the words "last chance"

two question:
1. what does the safe period mean, why do you make a safe period?
2. when will the pre-sale end? anytime from now means you can end it next year.

I want to refund my investment, can you show me how?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
July 15, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
Anyone have an idea, or read any info about how to get the coins out the viacoin paper wallet? - so far I dont believe there's a platform for that..  

When we release Viacoin-Qt, you'd just go to Help -> Debug Window -> Console
Then type

Code:
importprivkey
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
July 15, 2014, 07:54:58 PM
average price of 5331 per via seems a bit too high now... that would give it a salary cap of about $330k for a coin that hasnt even been released? and thats not even including the coins that are to be mined. Sure its 24sec blocks but still too high..
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