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legendary
Activity: 1316
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April 06, 2012, 01:13:38 AM
#21
Updated chart:



In mid-February, a lower threshold of $4.33 was broken. Because my system is based on the weighted price, the move wasn't strong enough to trigger a buy signal. For now, it looks like there's still going to be a little while doing a whole lot of nothing.
legendary
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February 23, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
#20
I just ask because it is pointless to post up results without the ability to reproduce it.

Demand for reproducibility is understandable, but I prefer not to reveal all of my calculations. I make use of numerous variable factors and derivations, including the external capital flows shown in this thread.

Bitcoin trading is much easier than in almost any other system due to its transparency. If your interest is piqued, wait for the algorithm to trigger again; I'll post here when it does.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
February 21, 2012, 04:04:10 PM
#19
What are the trigger signals?

Buy or sell.

I just ask because it is pointless to post up results without the ability to reproduce it.
legendary
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February 21, 2012, 03:59:57 PM
#18
What are the trigger signals?

Buy or sell.
hero member
Activity: 532
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February 20, 2012, 10:05:11 AM
#17

As Bitcoin continues to grow, I'll eventually shift to a monthly basis.

What are the trigger signals?
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
February 19, 2012, 11:52:57 PM
#16

I don't think he's claiming or expecting it to collapse.  Looks like he's saying Bitcoin has proven itself over the last 2 years and pseudo-collapse would allow refinement to strengthen its operation/existence without massive resistance from the community which may effectively cause a real collapse.

But, I could be wrong.  I usually am.

Nah, that does seem to be the case, but why not wait to buy until it hits $2 again?  Wink

I'm just giving him a hard time though.


Smartass Smiley

Anyway, I'm perfectly alright with getting the majority of the tradable range. Besides, based on the current situation, it's getting more and more unlikely that $2 will be breached on anything but a spike drop... not that there aren't buy orders that low Wink
legendary
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February 19, 2012, 11:51:05 PM
#15
How does your system compare with 9 trading signals created by randomly assigning them over that same time period?  If you are  using data pre-March 2011 it would be hard not to lose buying bitcoins.

It's a very conservative method (I like my sleep). I've compared against a buy & hold position of the same size and over the same time frame. Participating in all 9 trades up to the current USD/BTC rate of ~$4.40 results in a 13% increase over B&H.

For the 4 trades that I have made using the system, I'm up 15% compared to a buy & hold strategy. That's after accounting for the additional funds required above the initial 100% position (funds were added 3x before the first sell signal).

This is using data from bitcoincharts.com and assessing weekly activity, so if a trade is indicated, it will only be executed at (or ASAP after) the week's closing number is in. Here are the trades:

DateTradeUSD/BTC
2010-10-11-10.00%0.10
2011-02-07-10.00%0.92
2011-05-16-10.00%7.20
2011-06-13-10.00%14.65
2011-08-0810.00%6.55
2011-09-1210.00%4.77
2011-10-2410.00%3.16
2011-11-2110.00%2.20
2012-01-09-10.00%6.75

The date is for the start of the new week - opening is the same as the prior week's closing; positive trade percentages indicate buys and negatives are sells; USD/BTC rates are the prior week's closing and current week's opening value which is the specified trade price.

As Bitcoin continues to grow, I'll eventually shift to a monthly basis.
legendary
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Legen -wait for it- dary
February 19, 2012, 09:45:54 PM
#14

I don't think he's claiming or expecting it to collapse.  Looks like he's saying Bitcoin has proven itself over the last 2 years and pseudo-collapse would allow refinement to strengthen its operation/existence without massive resistance from the community which may effectively cause a real collapse.

But, I could be wrong.  I usually am.

Nah, that does seem to be the case, but why not wait to buy until it hits $2 again?  Wink

I'm just giving him a hard time though.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
February 19, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
#13
Are you long or short right now?

Long; building a position in tranches.

The system I'm using has triggered 9 trading signals since the start of data on that chart, and I've only traded 4 of them, the most recent being a sell at $6.75 in January. If Bitcoin breaks below a weighted value of $3.80 by the end of this week, it'll trigger a buy signal.


How does your system compare with 9 trading signals created by randomly assigning them over that same time period?  If you are  using data pre-March 2011 it would be hard not to lose buying bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
February 19, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
#12

I don't think he's claiming or expecting it to collapse.  Looks like he's saying Bitcoin has proven itself over the last 2 years and pseudo-collapse would allow refinement to strengthen its operation/existence without massive resistance from the community which may effectively cause a real collapse.

But, I could be wrong.  I usually am.
legendary
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Legen -wait for it- dary
legendary
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February 19, 2012, 07:27:25 PM
#10
I went partially in, it could go either way at this point.
legendary
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February 19, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
#9
Are you long or short right now?

Long; building a position in tranches.

The system I'm using has triggered 9 trading signals since the start of data on that chart, and I've only traded 4 of them, the most recent being a sell at $6.75 in January. If Bitcoin breaks below a weighted value of $3.80 by the end of this week, it'll trigger a buy signal.
hero member
Activity: 532
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February 19, 2012, 06:18:10 PM
#8
It seems like a good buying opp, but it looks like there are some other factors that could drag price down further in the short-term (banks attacking, gov't ire, etc).



So this is probably the beginning of a brief "buying season" to be followed by a breach of the recent ~$7 high. I'm guessing by the end of Q3.

Are you long or short right now?
newbie
Activity: 21
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February 19, 2012, 06:02:29 PM
#7
It's bitcoincharts.com's data.  I copied it into a spreadsheet, averaged bitcoin volume, then graphed.

legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
February 19, 2012, 05:51:54 PM
#6
Mt.Gox bitcoin volume averaged over 16-week increments.

Good stuff, nice to see the overall growth. Does your data include only USD or all currencies?

It would be interesting to see the data for all exchanges as well...
hero member
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Bitbuy
February 19, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
#5

How many weeks are there already in that last bar? It will most likely rise significantly before it closes.

We are 5 weeks into the last bar.

Nice, looking good! We'll probably overtake the 2nd last bar by a little bit if we maintain current volume figures. Bitcoin growth is looking healthy! Thanks for these graphs, really interesting.
newbie
Activity: 21
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February 19, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
#4

How many weeks are there already in that last bar? It will most likely rise significantly before it closes.

We are 5 weeks into the last bar.
hero member
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Bitbuy
February 19, 2012, 05:34:13 PM
#3


Mt.Gox bitcoin volume averaged over 16-week increments.

How many weeks are there already in that last bar? It will most likely rise significantly before it closes.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
February 19, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
#2
https://i.imgur.com/8X69n.png

Mt.Gox bitcoin volume averaged over 16-week increments.
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