Topic: Prediction of sport games (Read 376 times)

It doesn't matter what it's "famous" for. It famous for spam and discussion that is irrelevant and off topic for there in my opinion. And you can rename it whatever you want but if people are merely just discussing sports in there without any relevance to gambling then it has absolutely no reason to be in Gambling Discussion. If people start talking about films in there then we shouldn't be renaming the board to Films/Sport/Gambling Discussion just because its possible that you can bet on films in some capacity.

Disable all signature in gambling discussion, altcoin discussion, and bitcoin discussion; then total posts made each day in those boards will decrease considerably. Most of users make posts in those boards even don't care what already mentioned or discussed in previous posts. Posts made in a row, and new posts buried old posts very fastly.
Discussions will only be true discussions if posters spend time to read and care about what already wrote by others.
If they don't care about it, I think other names for those boards like Altcoin spam/ Bitcoin spam/ Gambling spam boards are more relevant.

I don't see problems if signature disabled in those boards, like what already applied in WO.

Fair point but how about this, the board is already famous for sport related discussion. How about renaming the board in a way discussion about sports won't be considered offtopic. Something like Sport/Gambling discussion board. This way gamblers could discuss sport freely at the same time discuss issues surrounding actually gambling.  The board is aready seen as a sport hangout board nothing wrong in making it official (just my opinion).

It wasn't made for signature campaigns, but rather as a consequence of them.


It can be lively in off topic or a sub board of it, but this is still irrelevant. Some people bet on the weather but you shouldn't be merely discussing whether it's sunny or raining or not in there. It's like saying discussing Nike shoes belongs in Gambling because an athlete might wear Nike footwear. If it's not directly about gambling then it's just sports discussion and that's off topic.


Why would it not be fair? Why does it matter whether the topics are in Gambling or Off Topic? It doesn't. The only thing it would effect was being able to get paid for posting in them if the campaign they're in doesn't pay for posts in Off Topic and that seems to be the whole crux of the issue. There being other spam threads in Gambling is irrelevant. There's just as much spam threads going on in the various sports discussion threads at the end of the day. You get hundreds of people writing generic lazy stuff or talking about things they have little to no interest in. I even remember someone creating a thread for some sort of women's sports tournament and in it they even alluded to the fact that they're not interested or know anything about it. That was clearly another thread made just to post results or whatnot because it's an easy way to rack up your sig posting quota.

I get it now but still for a topic to become lively you need audience/contributors. Sport and gambling go hand in hand. The gamblers are mostly interested in events they can bet on which sport happens to be one of those events. Therefore, they discuss more on sport-like events, which also help them with their gambling skills. The more you get familiar with which team, player, boxer, wrestler etc is in form, the greater the chances of placing a correct bet.

Suggesting that such topic to be moved to offtopic won't be fair to the users interested in such discussion. I'll choose this sport like discussion irrespective of whether they're offtopic or not, over the generic topic (spam) more associated with gambling like "Do you gambling in the morning or afternoon, Do you lose or win when gambling, Is gambling good or bad, Is your family aware that you're gambling etc".

I don't think it should be separated between gambling and sports boards, like soccer games.

"Simply mod to delete sports posts that have nothing to do with gambling site games."

many categories of gambling games, not necessarily dice, poker etc.
Soccer game sites can also be categorized as gambling games.
If the topic has to do with betting, I don't think that's a problem.

However, sometimes if there is a topic about soccer advertising that has nothing to do with betting, I think it's only natural to delete it.

You're probably right. Big part of discussions in this section isn't related to gambling at all. We're just talking about various sports in general. And discussing sports in Bitcoin forum doesn't makes much sense. As @hilariousetc said, in general this sub-board was made just for signature campaigns. Personally, I'd rather discuss about sports instead of posting in "What do you eat before gambling" and similar stupid threads. IMO, such threads which turns into spam megathreads very fast is bigger problem than discussion about sports which isn't directly related to gambling. But if one day "sports discussion" section will be made, probably it will be licated nearby off-topic and politics & society.

IMO, if, say for example, the discussion is about something about techniques, H2H and other information that can be used towards gambling, it can stay in the gambling discussion board, otherwise it's just off-topic and mainly pure sports. Most tipster sites discuss such information as well, and at the core of it is still gambling nonetheless, so I don't see anything wrong towards sports discussion if we were talking about future match-ups, past histories and information that can be used towards sports betting. Just my opinion though, and I can see the point being made by @hilariousetc knowing that he knows these boards as he patrols them as a mod.

It's not gambling if there's no money at stake and that's the key issue you're missing. They're just taking about sports. Talking about sports isn't gambling, so technically it shouldn't be in a sub board of Gambling. If you stake money on something then it belongs in there but mere discussion of it isn't.


Well the point is is that they're not gambling related and are more fitted to belonging in off topic or even their own sub in there. Merely discussing sports isn't gambling. Its the same as discussing films or what potential films are going to be made and who's going to be cast in them. That would be discussion that belongs in Off Topic. If you were betting money on when or if the films were going to come out and who might be potentially cast then that would be different matter but that's not what's going on in the majority of sports threads.


I think the issues is that most of the content/threads is off topic, specifically if there's no gambling going on. It's just sports talk otherwise. Maybe Sports Discussion should be it's own board as that's essentially what most of it is and if so then it would belong in Off Topic.

If you feel a post is offtopic, you should report that post as a member of this forum. Thats what we all can do in order to control the spam in Gambling Discussion because a lot of the posts there are offtopic and posted by those who need to post to get their post counts done for their signatures. Some posts are worth quoting and discussing which I try to do but 99% of the times I never get any reply in any thread in such threads.

Talking about predictions threads though they are often having a good discussion going on even if you do feel that some post is offtopic, just report it.

Creating more gambling-related sub-boards will make matters worse.
Many signatures campaigns require participants to make minimum posts in that board, and many participants may be tempted to SPAM to get paid.
If there is a need to create more sections, more mods must be added or signatures removed from that section.

Why would you want to separate a child board? If you take a closer look at the description of Gambling Discussion, it says "Discussion of sports games and other gambling-related topics which are separate from games and services themselves." and that in my view is what's being discussed in that particular board.

You're right that most of the mere sport discussion doesn't belong in there if they're not really discussing gambling, and even then it technically probably should be about bitcoin gambling only. The Gambling Discussion board is just a product of sig campaign spam as a lot of campaigns wanted posts in the Gambling board for obvious reasons, but there's only so much you can say about gambling before you exhaust your possibilities, so people started creating threads for every possible league of sport in the world to rack up their posts and meet their quota which dwarfed all the actual threads about bitcoin gambling sites etc so that sub board was created to separate it. I don't suppose it matters really where it but at least it's in its own section so if you or anyone else doesn't want to see it they don't have to.

There are many gambling options available, hence why there are so many diverse topics to discuss on aside sports, I've also seen threads on beauty contests. Sports is a unifying factor, hence it takes a lot of the discussion, I do not think that is off topic as long as it's remotely concerned with gambling.

Gambling discussion is a child board of Gambling, and there are other child boards as well, I do not think creating more would solve any issue, rather report whichever posts you think is not meant to be there and the mods would handle it.

Don't get it, how isn't predicting a game related to gambling? Isn't gambling all about predicting the outcome of an event.  If I'm not mistaken, each of those game has a dedicated thread created for just that purpose like the EPL, champions league prediction threads etc. Understandable if such predictions are done off those thread then it becomes an issue which if you report such thread they would be locked or deleted especially when they aren't different from host threads.

About the off topic discussion like players and matches, those too could be categories as gamble related as those are the event and personalities gamblers gamble on. The events like Ballon d'or or FIFA BEST, people also gamble on them too therefore discussing about them on the board shouldn't be an issue. Beside posting such discussion on offtopic won't attract the intended audience. Maybe a sub boards might just do the trick. My opinion, what ever can be gambled on, used in gambling and also be discussable, fits on the gambling discussion board.

Simply you could report that post which isn't belongs to gambling section. Usually I have don it (if I am not wrong) since I am bit active on gambling section. Predictions isn't belongs to gambling but not out of gambling as well. All games could be include for gambling and I don't think its inappropriate discussion about predictions. Who know perhaps someone plying based on that predicts or this a a gamble. I believe moderators of gambling section is active enough and they will take care of your report. Feeling good that your are thinking for about forum.

Gambling discussion is a child board of the gambling section, and I must tell you that the moderators on that section are very active, everything being discussed there is related to gambling, whether it's discussions on a players future, if he'll leave his current team or not, users also air their views on football games on who they think will win(and what the odds look like)and all that.

To me there is nothing wrong with the board, the discussions that go on there are all about gambling, in the sense that ideas are given on either the possible outcome of a match and so on, and it could guide users in placing bets.

Some of the general sports discussion thread there like the NBA thread also involves a discussion about gambling and betting. But since currently, it's on the off-season, you can't see any discussion about betting for now. Same goes with FIBA, PBA, (no idea to football threads), etc. (check these threads and you will see that betting discussion is involved).

Another section specifically for a sports game is not honestly necessary. Non-sports related threads there are not that much.

However, those tipsters threads somehow that have no sufficient proof that they are actually placing their bets shouldn't be there. Or if you found just doing sh*t there then just report the thread. And some of the speculation threads there like Pacquaio vs Mayweather should be locked for now and just open it once the rematch is 100% taking place since betting will now set in place. And so on...

Well, yes maybe some are off-topics there so for that just report the thread.

Sometimes i post there and i think the mods there are somehow active. I haven't seen a post that is unrelated to gambling stay there for over 24 hours before being removed.

Maybe what you could have done is point out a post that you think does not belong there.
Also, separating general discussions about gambling and prediction of sport games is meaningless IMO. Gambling and prediction go hand in hand and creating another child board just for predictions would just be too much.

Report which posts you think pointless or off topic, and clean up that board.
Cleaning up the house in Bitcoin/ Altcoin/ Gambling Discussion boards