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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final.

It's a big NO to bet on united against manchester city with the current performance. United may be humiliated by manchester city once again soon. It will be so crazy if there are still bettors who take united as a winner in FA cup. 100% city win against united.

Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

United has performed poorly, with a negative GD and the most losses in United's history and these facts enough in proving that how poor untied's performance is. There is no doubt that Manchester United will once again do bottle jobs against Manchester City at the final of FA cup. In almost every way, the city surpasses united and it sounds hilarious if we are favoring united to win against manchester city soon.

It's kinda stupid to bet on United soon when you have City, who can guarantee you a win with all of their great players.

Waiting for Haaland to score a lot of goals against Manchester United in the FA Cup and im sure united will be mocked by its rival. City still has chances to win two more trophies. I am confident they will not be doing bottle jobs against the EZ team like United.
It would be a shame for the city to lose to a mediocre club like United, which was destroyed by Palace.

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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem.

Erik ten Hag is Manchester United major problem, if a team is not doing well the fault is always on the couch.

Assume Xabi Alonso was the club's coach and things may be differet. I am feeling confident that United will do far better than it by replace him with a new coach. Ten hag is a bad coach. There's no doubt that many fans wanted him to leave the club as soon as possible caused by he delivers nothing for manchester united. I believe that not only the defense, but also the midfielders, have been performing poorly in the game against palace, that's why united being destroyed by palace with a lot of goals.
Even the attacking line isn't as good as I expected. It is clear from the fact that Manchester United has a deficit of goals between GF and GA. It means that Manchester United has both a poor attacking and defensive line.
This is not the Manchester United I wanted to see. When considering the statistics recorded by Manchester United, the club ranks relatively low in all categories. That is the main issue if United wants to keep Ten Hag as an appointment for another season.
It is better for United to fire him as soon as possible. United is the stupidest team if the club continues to keep Ten Hag as an appointment.

Actually, the owners of Manchester United are not that worried about the performance of Manchester United. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have kept the current coach for such a long time that they have. The club has become only about marketing and nothing else. I am actually thinking that this club might become something like Dortmund in the near future. They will only want the club to make the money. And they are probably not going to be worried about winning any trophies. Manchester United is not the club that it was before. There was a time when if there was a match between Manchester United and Manchester City, Manchester United was the favorite default. And now that has changed to Manchester City.

Does anyone have any idea which coach they are actually thinking about bringing in? I heard that Zidane was interested. But I also know that Manchester United has not contacted him.

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Quote from: Stable090 on May 07, 2024, 03:44:11 PM

I don’t know how Manchester United will be able to win Manchester City in the FA Cup. Manchester City will do everything in their power to win both the FA Cup and the Premier League, and I know the FA cup will be kind of easy for Manchester City to win because Manchester United's performance is just so weak and their defense is just so weak, so any opponent playing against them will find it easy to penetrate their defense, and we all know how aggressive Manchester City are, so I don’t think playing against Manchester United in the FA Cup final will be a problem for them.

With current form, Mancity appears to be quite superior to Man Utd. But in a cup match, the result is unpredictable. Man Utd can play sublimely in a final match like this, especially this will be the decisive match for a ticket to the European Cup next season of them. This may be the only title that helps them not empty-handed this season, and helps them continue to participate in the European Cup when their current position in the Premier League is almost the end of their chances of having a slot to participate European Cup.

Many predictions suggest that coach Ten Hag may have to leave before this final takes place. However, in my opinion, should not let Ten Hag go at this time, even though he deserves it. Because Ten Hag's departure can cause chaos and not a very positive spirit for the players. And I think Man Utd's leadership will also think the same and will make a decision about Ten Hag's future after this match ends. Man Utd will not gain anything if they eliminate Ten Hag in the context of still having 4 matches left, including 3 do-or-die matches in the Premier League and the FA Cup final. If he can help Man Utd win the cup, there may still be a door for Ten Hag to stay.

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Quote from: len01 on May 08, 2024, 12:39:08 AM

Man City will probably focus on the EPL title but it will not be difficult if they also chase the FA Cup to beat Man United, it is just an easy task for Man City.
look at how Man City lost their chance at the UCL and now there is no hope anymore and have many chances at the EPL title and FA cup that can still be fought for.

The FA Cup match schedule is one week after the last match of the English Premier League so Manchester City does not need to choose which competition they will focus more on, because it means there is certainty whether City will win the league title or not and after that they can rest to be fitter for the final of the FA Cup will face a team that looks weak on all sides but still cannot be underestimated because Manchester United might make a surprise.

For the three English Premier League matches, Manchester City is relatively only facing Tottenham, which will have a difficult match, although it is quite doubtful that Tottenham will provide a difficult match for City, because conceding 13 goals in four matches shows how Tottenham will struggle to perform well for the rest of the season.

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Quote from: arimamib on May 07, 2024, 07:07:30 PM

Injuries factor on Manchester United side seems doesnt affect their performance. I watched Manchester United played with their main regular starters was no different to Manchester United played with their reserve players. It's bizarre to say, but that's how I see Manchester United have been performing throughout this season. They were at lower position than the current time when they are having injuries problem.

No matter who will be in the lineup, I don't think they have ability to beat Manchester City, Hypothetically. The only thing being disadvantage for Manchester City is that their focus in more on Premier League title race, and they have tighter fixtures that could affect their performance. Ten Hag should exploit this aspect with physical and pace display in his tactics because Manchester City presumably is having fatigue with their tight fixture and the intense of title race.

a team that is already popular and known as one of the best teams, can always find a way to maintain the quality of performance of its players and player injuries are not the right reason and as a popular team like Man United it really doesn't make sense if the performance is just bad, regarding injured players.
and if we look again at the defeat against Crystal Palace, this certainly doesn't make sense because the line up looks very clear that the attack line looks perfect and what I often say is only the weakness of the defense line.
I will not blame anyone for the defeat, but we just need to ask ourselves if all this needs to be questioned by Ten Hag as the Man United coach who is responsible for the team's future.

Man City will probably focus on the EPL title but it will not be difficult if they also chase the FA Cup to beat Man United, it is just an easy task for Man City.
look at how Man City lost their chance at the UCL and now there is no hope anymore and have many chances at the EPL title and FA cup that can still be fought for.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on May 07, 2024, 04:01:33 PM

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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final.

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Currently, Manchester United team is facing injury problems, they have so many players injured and I don’t also think the remaining players can help them win Manchester City in the FA Cup final because Manchester City is far better than them in all aspects and they have no injuries this time in their squad list.

Ten Had might have something exceptional to display against Man City in the finals see if winning Manchester City in the finals will save his job, because without winning the FA Cup final, he might be leaving at the end of the season; but if he win this FA Cup, the management might reconsider him but the main issue is that even Manchester United fans want him sacked with immediate effect.

Injuries factor on Manchester United side seems doesnt affect their performance. I watched Manchester United played with their main regular starters was no different to Manchester United played with their reserve players. It's bizarre to say, but that's how I see Manchester United have been performing throughout this season. They were at lower position than the current time when they are having injuries problem.

No matter who will be in the lineup, I don't think they have ability to beat Manchester City, Hypothetically. The only thing being disadvantage for Manchester City is that their focus in more on Premier League title race, and they have tighter fixtures that could affect their performance. Ten Hag should exploit this aspect with physical and pace display in his tactics because Manchester City presumably is having fatigue with their tight fixture and the intense of title race.

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Quote from: Stable090 on May 07, 2024, 03:44:11 PM

Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final.

I don’t know how Manchester United will be able to win Manchester City in the FA Cup. Manchester City will do everything in their power to win both the FA Cup and the Premier League, and I know the FA cup will be kind of easy for Manchester City to win because Manchester United's performance is just so weak and their defense is just so weak, so any opponent playing against them will find it easy to penetrate their defense, and we all know how aggressive Manchester City are, so I don’t think playing against Manchester United in the FA Cup final will be a problem for them.

Currently, Manchester United team is facing injury problems, they have so many players injured and I don’t also think the remaining players can help them win Manchester City in the FA Cup final because Manchester City is far better than them in all aspects and they have no injuries this time in their squad list.

Ten Had might have something exceptional to display against Man City in the finals see if winning Manchester City in the finals will save his job, because without winning the FA Cup final, he might be leaving at the end of the season; but if he win this FA Cup, the management might reconsider him but the main issue is that even Manchester United fans want him sacked with immediate effect.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final.

I don’t know how Manchester United will be able to win Manchester City in the FA Cup. Manchester City will do everything in their power to win both the FA Cup and the Premier League, and I know the FA cup will be kind of easy for Manchester City to win because Manchester United's performance is just so weak and their defense is just so weak, so any opponent playing against them will find it easy to penetrate their defense, and we all know how aggressive Manchester City are, so I don’t think playing against Manchester United in the FA Cup final will be a problem for them.

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What are you trying to say do you mean that the inconsistent of the Manchester united is their from there side is their coach fault. I didn't think is true because their coach is always try his possible best as much as he can to make that his teams doing well and bring out a good results in any of their opponents, but due their poorly performance they will not meetup. Expecially their defense honestly Manchester united are lack of defense and their coach is contributed much effort to put them in right path, but they will never take corrections from their mistakes and that's why they remain without moving forward they should just go home and rest i think there time is over for this season.

I can't blame Erik Ten Hag completely for their 4-0 defeat to Crystal Palace. Manchester United have tried to give the best performance they have, but the many injuries suffered by the main players have made it difficult for Ten Hag to find the right solution. Of course, this defeat was not at all expected, especially when Manchester United had a big chance of taking 6th place from Newcastle, but whatever it was, Ten Hag had to accept defeat.

Every player should be responsible for the loss instead of just Ten Hag. Many players don't play as well as expected and he tends to lose the ball at his feet when building attacks, that's not a strategy error but a fault of the players themselves. Blaming Ten Hag completely for the defeat is not right, but of course there are reasons why Ten Hag must also be responsible for the results.

Manchester United have 3 difficult games left in the season and I'm not sure they can win these games. Arsenal will try their best to win the away game, Newcastle will be the same, but the hope is in the match against Brighton even though I would actually put it as a difficult match for Manchester United too.

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Quote from: mamesso on May 07, 2024, 12:37:43 PM

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If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

This result was never imagined before, most of them placed bets for MU to win because of the difference in team quality. But the results on the field made people who bet on MU have to accept the bitter reality after Crystal Palace managed to break into MU's goal four times without any return goals from MU players.

It was easy for Manchester United to be the favorites between these two but, it’s always about the field of play right, yeah. That’s what happened although, we can’t under estimate the quality of players on the Crystal Palace side. We have creative players like Eze, Olise, Mateta, Edouard and Ayew amongst others. These guys are capable of the inevitable which became Manchester United’s reality yesterday.
This was one of their easy fixtures and they failed to take advantage of it. There next game would be Arsenal and even though Manchester United would be playing from home, it would be extremely difficult for them to hold Arsenal who would need the 3points to keep Manchester City on their heels.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on May 06, 2024, 04:57:34 PM

Out of their last 10 Premier League games, Manchester United have only won 2. One with Everton and one with the last in the table - Sheffield.
The 4-0 loss to Crystal Palace was an absolute humiliation. We all knew they were lacking in the offence, but their defence was equally bad today. It could've been 5-0 if not for the off-the-post shot.
It's a shame, because they had a real chance of fighting for the 5th place, given Tottenham have lost a lot of points lately, but Man United have wasted that chance.
They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

It’s been a run of bad games for Man United as they have been able to manage just 2 wins in their last 10 games. This is not really the standard of a club like Manchester United as they’re not known for this kind of record. The Manchester united i kmow of should be very capable of handling Palace despite the injuries.

⁠I think this shows how weak their midfield and defense line is as they’re not able to keep the balls from entering. At this point, i don’t think Onana is to blame anymore as you can see him still making some fine saves despite the bad defense line he’s having which makes him fail in keeping cleansheet. With this kind of run, I don’t think using the league to get to Europe is possible for them.

Their only hope of being in Europe will be winning the FA Cup against City as that’s the only wyy for them to be able to get to UEL next seaon, other than that nothing for them. But when you look at that match, you can only imagine what are United chances of defeating their neighbors. Well, I feel the season is over for them and they’ll probably just remain in Engalnd next season if it will help them be able to focus more on the league and at least get something off the competition.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

This result was never imagined before, most of them placed bets for MU to win because of the difference in team quality. But the results on the field made people who bet on MU have to accept the bitter reality after Crystal Palace managed to break into MU's goal four times without any return goals from MU players. Due to the poor performance at Crystal Palace headquarters, MU lost the opportunity to play in European competitions. The remaining three matches will not be easy for MU because they will face Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton. Beating Man City in the FA Cup final is also almost impossible. This was done because Man City is very consistent in maintaining his performance in the EPL and also really wants to win this trophy.

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Chelsea's performance in their recent English Premier League matches have significantly improved of which many people now believes that a top four finish would've been absolutely possible for Chelsea if they had been as consistent and impressive as they've been in their last five league games. Yesterday against West Ham, Chelsea produced a great performance to win the game with a thumping 5:0 scoreline against the Hammers. Mauricio Pochentino looks like he's finally found the best approach that'll bring out the best from his boys and I think he'll be able to keep up with the current performance till the end of the current season.
Chelsea are trying to finish the season in a position that'll guarantee them European football next season of which the UEFA Europa League competition is their top target at the moment but even if they end up playing in the UEFA Conference League competition next season, it'll also be an improvement from what they achieved as a club last season.

I don’t think Chelsea will be able to finish in such a position from where they will be able to take part in the European competitions. because they need to have enough points to finish in the fifth position if I am not wrong. But it looks like it is going to be really hard for them to do that. Because the point difference is quite big.

But at the same time I have to say, the way Tottenham has been performing recently, it is not impossible as well. Tottenham has actually lost four matches in a row. it is not going to be a big surprise if in the end Chelsea and Newcastle United are fighting for the fifth position at the end of the day and Tottenham is actually the one finishing on the seventh position. But still, it is going to be really hard for Chelsea to pull that off.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 07, 2024, 11:52:15 AM

Manchester United are helpless. Their defending never got better. They are even losing to much weaker teams with a big goal difference. This isn't the version of them that I would like to watch. Alex Ferguson must be really sad to see this team in the current situation. Sad

Erik ten Hag is very highly criticized. After this embarrassing result people got mad at him once again. As Manchester United have been struggling for years I don't really know if the actual issue here is the manager. Huh

We will see with whom they will continue. But now there is an emergency for this squad to be improved a lot.

After Manchester United spent a lot of money by bringing in star players but Manchester United performance did not improve at all, isn't it worth blaming Ten Hag at this time?
Ten Hag keeps asking the management for a lot of money every season to strengthen their every line, but today he said they don't have the quality of players to win those games, whereas we know all along the decision to bring in players was in Ten Hag hands but instead he blamed the squad without realising his mistakes so far. After disappointing results from weak teams, of course, the fans trust in Ten Hag is no longer there and I think it is time for Manchester United to consider Ten Hag future at Manchester United at the moment.

What you said about improving the squad has certainly been done by Manchester United in the last 3 seasons by bringing in great players, but in fact it has not had a positive impact at all on Manchester United performance this season, so it seems that changing coaches can be a better solution, because indeed the ability of a coach to manage the team has a big role in winning so far in addition to the quality factor of players.

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Quote from: rojan on May 07, 2024, 11:07:16 AM

Crystal Palace vs Man United today match in Premier League Crystal Palace team scored 4 goals and Man United team did not score any goals. Man United team lost this match due to poor performance of the players. I lost the bet by placing a bet in support of Man United team. I never thought that the Man United team would perform so badly. However, the players of the Crystal Palace team did a great performance in today's match. M. Olise played very well in today's match.

Manchester United are helpless. Their defending never got better. They are even losing to much weaker teams with a big goal difference. This isn't the version of them that I would like to watch. Alex Ferguson must be really sad to see this team in the current situation. Sad

Erik ten Hag is very highly criticized. After this embarrassing result people got mad at him once again. As Manchester United have been struggling for years I don't really know if the actual issue here is the manager. Huh

We will see with whom they will continue. But now there is an emergency for this squad to be improved a lot.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 07, 2024, 10:54:01 AM

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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

Manchester United lost a lot of players this season because too many players were injured, this made Erik ten Hag have to think further, where last night Casemmiro had to be the CB, so there was no other choice on the bench which made Erik ten Hag have to put Casemiro there and losing Bruno made Manchester United's midfield lose an important figure they could rely on, Crystal Palace did make Manchester difficult last night, I think if there had been Bruno and Maguire last night it wouldn't have been like this.

Regarding the match against Manchester City in the FA Cup Final, it is not impossible that Manchester United can win this match, of course it will be different from the league in this Final, everything will happen especially as we know this is a Derby so it is not impossible, even though Man City is superior it doesn't mean Manchester United will lose, but I think Manchester United will win this match and will put on an interesting show in the final.

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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

It’s obvious Manchester city will defeat Manchester United, I wonder what’s wrong with Manchester United because each match day viewers end up seeing a defeat and not just mere defeat but, defeat viewers never expected like just imagine crystal palace defeated United. Funny how Manchester city will play with everything against united and other teams in the epl fixtures this last time , I remembered when Manchester City had zero hope winning the epl title rather we all focused on Liverpool. Let’s just hope because everyone can actually predict the winnner against Manchester United.

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Crystal Palace vs Man United today match in Premier League Crystal Palace team scored 4 goals and Man United team did not score any goals. Man United team lost this match due to poor performance of the players. I lost the bet by placing a bet in support of Man United team. I never thought that the Man United team would perform so badly. However, the players of the Crystal Palace team did a great performance in today's match. M. Olise played very well in today's match.

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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

Well, everyone really knows that as long as this season is concerned Manchester United is no match to Manchester City. So, any match between Manchester United and Manchester City we already know that Manchester City is the favorite. However we understand that the momentum and confidence of a particular team towards a particular match has so much impact in that match even more than the form they came with. It would have been easier for Manchester United assuming Manchester City scaled to the final of the Champions League. But right now it will be difficult for this guys coupled with how disorganized the team is now. But then if ETH, can have some of players, especially defenders back for this meeting it can take another shape. This is because it is called finals, a final must surely look like a final no matter the atmosphere. So, it can be correct to say that Manchester United still have good chance to appear in the European competition next season.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on May 06, 2024, 04:57:34 PM

They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.

If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.

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