Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 164.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on December 14, 2024, 11:12:26 PM

The strange thing is there are still Liverpool fans who could not accept the red given to the Robertson. He did the right thing, though he has sacrificed himself for that. It was Fulham's last man, and red card is right decision.

It's a very quick situation and starts with a bad first touch of Robertson. He tried to fix his mistake but at this speed, a foul is unavoidable and I believe that he didn't have enough time for consideration that he should make that foul or not. He even did not think of a foul, just tried to touch the ball again and prevent a dangerous attack from Fullham.

It's clearly a foul and a red card is right decision from the referee, but later Liverpool had to play with only 10 players and got a second conceded goal. Is it because of Robertson sent out, perhaps, but if he did not make the foul, a second conceded goal can come earlier for Liverpool.

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As for Arsenal, they're pure shit now. I can't believe people still talking about them to win the trophy. Their odds is now equal to the Chelsea. It can be even bigger if they still miss more points in the upcoming weeks.

It's unbelievable things starting to change in matter of weeks.

Arsenal don't have a world-class striker and this position is their weakest position. They try to cover it with corner kick and free kick situations but it won't be enough for a club that competes for Premier League title. They can not score goal in every match from corner and free kicks and this will cause more dropped points from Arsenal.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 14, 2024, 10:50:05 PM

Although the chances of winning for Man City are greater, I myself doubt they will be able to win the match later in their current condition, some of their previous matches also tend to end disappointingly, maybe this is what is called the ball is round where there will always be a turn that occurs and this is what is happening now where initially they were able to lead at the top but are now in fifth place, and with Chelsea who were initially in a fairly far ranking are now in second place.
In my opinion, both teams are in an unfavorable condition, both coaches are also trying to improve the performance of their respective teams to be better than before, with Amorim himself emphasizing that he believes he can destroy Guardiola in the match later while with Guardiola he seems to be struggling because he is facing several of his injured players. And he himself is looking for a way to win a tight match, it seems that they are indeed in serious trouble.

https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/pep-guardiola-manchester-united-pre-press-conference-embargo-december-2024-63869704

I don't think that the problem of Manchester city is just because of injuries, because to be honest here, they aren't the first team that are experiencing an injury crisis and besides this is not the first time injuries are hitting them hard all through the seven years of pep guardiola reign as manager of Manchester city, what I think is the real cause of the problem of Manchester city is that they are now having too much players that their age is now telling on them, because right now apart from Rodri that is absent, I think that the rest of other of their key players are back From injuries, but they are still struggling, that shows that their problem is way beyond that.
Till this Manchester city team is rebuild into a more younger and vibrant squad, I believe that their struggling will definitely continue mainly against a top quality side with a more younger team.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 14, 2024, 10:01:57 PM

What an unfortunate results for Arsenal and Liverpool.

Quote from: Publictalk792 on December 14, 2024, 09:21:44 PM

I agree that Liverpool has not been doing well lately which has given other teams chance to catch up. But it is still impressive that they have 36 points after 15 games which shows how strong they are. Among teams that are trying to catch up Chelsea seems to be most likely to catch up with Liverpool. This is because Manchester City is not playing well right now and Arsenal is far behind top teams. About Andrew Robertson performance getting red card was a mistake but it is not fair to blame him alone. Whole team performance and plan also played role in how they did against Fulonce they did against Fulham.

But, Liverpool is still better than Arsenal. Liverpool lost one player and they can score 2 goals, while Arsenal playing with full team and in their home, can't beat Everton, a team that weaker than Fulham. I think Robertson did that because they were behind one goal, so he take a risk to not conceded 2 goals.

Yeah Chelsea is the strongest competitor in this season, I laugh when people underestimated Chelsea will not become a champion and they can only finish at top 4. Chelsea will meet Brentford, I'm sure they will win.

The strange thing is there are still Liverpool fans who could not accept the red given to the Robertson. He did the right thing, though he has sacrificed himself for that. It was Fulham's last man, and red card is right decision.

As for Arsenal, they're pure shit now. I can't believe people still talking about them to win the trophy. Their odds is now equal to the Chelsea. It can be even bigger if they still miss more points in the upcoming weeks.

It's unbelievable things starting to change in matter of weeks.

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Quote from: As-Soon-As on December 14, 2024, 06:32:00 PM

Manchester City and Manchester United are both aggressive teams in this match, but Manchester City is currently struggling with a very bad time towards the end of this season. How reasonable is the possibility of them roaring again after losing three consecutive matches?
I think they will definitely perform well in today's match. Because if Manchester City loses this match again after losing a few matches, then Manchester City fans will never forgive. Each team will enter this match with their full squad, but until we see the game to the end, we will not be sure which team will be able to win. That's why we have to wait and see the game.

Although the chances of winning for Man City are greater, I myself doubt they will be able to win the match later in their current condition, some of their previous matches also tend to end disappointingly, maybe this is what is called the ball is round where there will always be a turn that occurs and this is what is happening now where initially they were able to lead at the top but are now in fifth place, and with Chelsea who were initially in a fairly far ranking are now in second place.
In my opinion, both teams are in an unfavorable condition, both coaches are also trying to improve the performance of their respective teams to be better than before, with Amorim himself emphasizing that he believes he can destroy Guardiola in the match later while with Guardiola he seems to be struggling because he is facing several of his injured players. And he himself is looking for a way to win a tight match, it seems that they are indeed in serious trouble.

https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/pep-guardiola-manchester-united-pre-press-conference-embargo-december-2024-63869704

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Quote from: stompix on December 14, 2024, 10:24:06 PM

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3 matches with 4 teams I would not like to bet a penny on them, throw in the BTTS no goal and this is a ticket I would make only if blindfolded.
Good luck with it but damn those are some risky picks for just a 3.5!

I was so sure of it!

Every single time I see those teams on a ticket I know they are going to screw up completely.
Arsenal not scoring, not happened since the 2nd of November but against Newcastle not Everton, then Liverpool drawing with Fulham same time?
I'm almost willing to bet the 3rd game will be a win just to rub a bit of salt in the wound!

Even with the odds of each team that I think are more reasonable, it still doesn't guarantee that they will win, initially I didn't think Arsenal and Liverpool would both get a draw because if you look at their ability to face their opponents I think they can beat them even with a narrow score but in reality Arsenal couldn't score a single goal from the many shots they took, the result of the 3rd bet wasn't that important because the two teams I bet on had messed up my bet.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 14, 2024, 10:01:57 PM

What an unfortunate results for Arsenal and Liverpool.

But, Liverpool is still better than Arsenal. Liverpool lost one player and they can score 2 goals, while Arsenal playing with full team and in their home, can't beat Everton, a team that weaker than Fulham. I think Robertson did that because they were behind one goal, so he take a risk to not conceded 2 goals.

Liverpool played with only 10 players in most time of the match and they tried hard to win it. If they were lucky enough, they could win this match even with disadvantage of only 10 players. Arsenal are different, they played with 11 players against Everton, created opportunities but their weakness in attacking system costs them 2 points. In this match, again Arsenal shows that they lack of a good striker who has good ability to convert key passes to goals. This weakness can cost them Premier League title again. Liverpool drop points but Arsenal fail to take advantage of it to reduce point difference to 4, and they already played 1 match more than Liverpool.

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Yeah Chelsea is the strongest competitor in this season, I laugh when people underestimated Chelsea will not become a champion and they can only finish at top 4. Chelsea will meet Brentford, I'm sure they will win.

Chelsea is a big surprise and now they are only 5 points less than Liverpool with similar total matches. They have 1 point more than Arsenal but they can expand it to 4 points with one match in hands. It's interesting if Chelsea manage to enter the title race with Liverpool while Arsenal and Manchester City will compete for top four, or more exactly last two positions in top four.

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Quote from: stompix on December 14, 2024, 04:01:45 AM

Quote from: tusandii on December 13, 2024, 10:27:18 PM

3 matches with 4 teams I would not like to bet a penny on them, throw in the BTTS no goal and this is a ticket I would make only if blindfolded.
Good luck with it but damn those are some risky picks for just a 3.5!

I was so sure of it!

Every single time I see those teams on a ticket I know they are going to screw up completely.
Arsenal not scoring, not happened since the 2nd of November but against Newcastle not Everton, then Liverpool drawing with Fulham same time?
I'm almost willing to bet the 3rd game will be a win just to rub a bit of salt in the wound!

Quote from: Publictalk792 on December 14, 2024, 09:21:44 PM

I agree that Liverpool has not been doing well lately which has given other teams chance to catch up.

Look at their schedule, EFL cup, Bayer, and Real in the CL league, in the last 8 matches they played against 5 out of the 6 teams behind them at the top, City, Aston, Arsenal,Chelsea, they had the worst schedule you can think of, it easy recouping points when you play the last teams in the league and harder to stay at top when you're facing the top one after the other.

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Everton haven't been able to get a clean winning for sometime but as soon as Manchester United gave them a 4nil win they (Everton) became very hard to defeat and I believe that Liverpool would have found it hard to get the very needed 3pt. With Arsenal hosting Everton yesterday and how the Gunners played I thought Arsenal would've beaten Everton to reduce the point gap but after watching the first half I felt disappointed because it seems the Gunners are still following the same path they did as if last season. A game you expect them to win they prefer to settle for a draw and their (Arsenal) performance wasn't like they have a target, too dull and weak.
I don't think the Gunners can get close to Liverpool the way Chelsea are trying, for now I think the Gunners are not capable of winning the title and with time they might be cut off the title race.

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What an unfortunate results for Arsenal and Liverpool.

Quote from: Publictalk792 on December 14, 2024, 09:21:44 PM

I agree that Liverpool has not been doing well lately which has given other teams chance to catch up. But it is still impressive that they have 36 points after 15 games which shows how strong they are. Among teams that are trying to catch up Chelsea seems to be most likely to catch up with Liverpool. This is because Manchester City is not playing well right now and Arsenal is far behind top teams. About Andrew Robertson performance getting red card was a mistake but it is not fair to blame him alone. Whole team performance and plan also played role in how they did against Fulonce they did against Fulham.

But, Liverpool is still better than Arsenal. Liverpool lost one player and they can score 2 goals, while Arsenal playing with full team and in their home, can't beat Everton, a team that weaker than Fulham. I think Robertson did that because they were behind one goal, so he take a risk to not conceded 2 goals.

Yeah Chelsea is the strongest competitor in this season, I laugh when people underestimated Chelsea will not become a champion and they can only finish at top 4. Chelsea will meet Brentford, I'm sure they will win.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 14, 2024, 06:36:43 PM

Initially, Liverpool lost points, allowing the other teams to get closer and reach this team in the Premier League table. However, reaching a team like Liverpool with 36 points in 15 games is not easy, and the only team they can reach Slot and his players in is currently Chelsea because Manchester City is not in good form, and Arsenal is far from the top of the table.
Andrew Robertson, a Liverpool player, was the main reason for this result. Even fans of this team were complaining about his performance because of the red card he received; otherwise, Liverpool could have had the chance to beat Fulham.

I agree that Liverpool has not been doing well lately which has given other teams chance to catch up. But it is still impressive that they have 36 points after 15 games which shows how strong they are. Among teams that are trying to catch up Chelsea seems to be most likely to catch up with Liverpool. This is because Manchester City is not playing well right now and Arsenal is far behind top teams. About Andrew Robertson performance getting red card was a mistake but it is not fair to blame him alone. Whole team performance and plan also played role in how they did against Fulonce they did against Fulham.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 10, 2024, 05:48:01 PM

Hiring Federico Chiesa was the worst move Liverpool ever had during the last summer. Federico Chiesa was playing for Juventos and because of his bad performance, Motta said he doesn't need this player anymore however in the old days he he was a well-performing player but he is now out of good form.
Since Liverpool hired Federico Chiesa this player played for his team only for 78 minutes and he was mostly injured.
Now after getting back to the good form, this player got old and he is going to stay out for a longer time.

I don't agree that hiring Federico Chiesa from Juventus last summer was the worst move of Liverpool, he’s a good player capable of scoring goals. I don't think it's because of his bad performance at Juventus that made Motta to sell him rather it was due to the fact of his reoccurring injury problems and fitness issues, nothing more. A fully fit Federico Chiesa will surely make stater in Arne Slot squad.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 14, 2024, 06:36:43 PM

Andrew Robertson, a Liverpool player, was the main reason for this result. Even fans of this team were complaining about his performance because of the red card he received; otherwise, Liverpool could have had the chance to beat Fulham.

When I look at the chronology, I see that Robertson accidentally kicked Harry Wilson's leg, because Missed out ball to kick out. But, due to this situation, Liverpool's defense has become lame, there are only 3 players guarding the position so that makes Fulham's attacker is so easy to create the 2nd goal. I think, Liverpool still have a high fighting spirit to balance the score. I see the mentality of a champion when look at how Gakpo and Jota made the equalizer score. Salah's role is crucial also on front, Slot change the strategy to offensive when making a substitution from Arnold to Jota. This is the brave strategy he made because he sacrificed an already lame on back.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 14, 2024, 06:41:33 PM

Aggressive?? More like two weak teams fighting to see who is better. I can’t place a bet on this match because I’m unsure about the two teams. Manchester United have been struggling this season, even with the arrival of Amorim the team has improved enough to win my confidence. Manchester City on the other hand have a rough road in the last 10 games, I don’t expect much from them until they have signed new players to fill up the lapses they have in the midfield.

A both team score option and prediction wouldn't be bad after all yeah? Teams Manchester United has played recently one way or the other has found ways to score them, so Manchester City scoring Manchester United is very certain in the game. At least they're slowly getting the hang of how he wants them to play within the last two games. Maybe people will learn to appreciate EtH more and how he coped with 60+ injuries last season.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on December 14, 2024, 03:41:24 PM

Unable to Fulham to maintain what they have gotten. Liverpool are too powerful for Fulham even though they only play with ten players.
Indeed, for Liverpool, the results of this 2-2 imbng against Fulham at Anfield became a match that was not as expected, but what could make the situation had to force like that. Things that should be able to maintain the difference with Chelsea, are now only one point.

Yeah Liverpool have the ability in any situation and they managed to avoid defeat and now Liverpool are still safe with a difference of 5 points above Chelsea
But yeah Liverpool must be careful because Chelsea played well and consistently so far, meaning they could have been pursuing in the next few matches
We are also waiting for the Manchester City vs Manchester United match well here we will see if Man City still has a chance to compete.

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Quote from: As-Soon-As on December 14, 2024, 06:32:00 PM

Manchester City and Manchester United are both aggressive teams in this match, but Manchester City is currently struggling with a very bad time towards the end of this season. How reasonable is the possibility of them roaring again after losing three consecutive matches?
I think they will definitely perform well in today's match. Because if Manchester City loses this match again after losing a few matches, then Manchester City fans will never forgive. Each team will enter this match with their full squad, but until we see the game to the end, we will not be sure which team will be able to win. That's why we have to wait and see the game.

Aggressive?? More like two weak teams fighting to see who is better. I can’t place a bet on this match because I’m unsure about the two teams. Manchester United have been struggling this season, even with the arrival of Amorim the team has improved enough to win my confidence. Manchester City on the other hand have a rough road in the last 10 games, I don’t expect much from them until they have signed new players to fill up the lapses they have in the midfield.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on December 14, 2024, 03:41:24 PM

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When Liverpool's position is behind 1 goal behind, but their game is not like the lack of one player. Maybe the signs to be able to reply to the equalizing goal are available. Hope they can win this fight difficult. The reason you know why it is difficult.
I think Arne Slot does not show panic when Robertson gets a red card. The slot remains calm and has not planned to replace one player to cover the post left by Robertson.
Fulham is trying to maintain this situation until the first half is over.
For those who have bet on the choice of Liverpool winning, don't be discouraged. Situation can still change.

Fulham likely going to hold the lead till the second half but I think Liverpool maybe able to bounce back and possibly get a win in this game. This will make them show how serious they are in winning the league and not falling off again like last season. Anyway, if they lost it will be more better for me since that will reduce the gap they are having with Chelsea and every other leaflet title contenders, and as a Chelsea fan I did be happy to be honest.

Unable to Fulham to maintain what they have gotten. Liverpool are too powerful for Fulham even though they only play with ten players.
Indeed, for Liverpool, the results of this 2-2 imbng against Fulham at Anfield became a match that was not as expected, but what could make the situation had to force like that. Things that should be able to maintain the difference with Chelsea, are now only one point.

Initially, Liverpool lost points, allowing the other teams to get closer and reach this team in the Premier League table. However, reaching a team like Liverpool with 36 points in 15 games is not easy, and the only team they can reach Slot and his players in is currently Chelsea because Manchester City is not in good form, and Arsenal is far from the top of the table.
Andrew Robertson, a Liverpool player, was the main reason for this result. Even fans of this team were complaining about his performance because of the red card he received; otherwise, Liverpool could have had the chance to beat Fulham.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 14, 2024, 05:28:24 PM

Disgraceful is too strong and unfair. Arsenal played really well and were a much stronger team. They did create a lot of scoring chances but were out of luck, partially due to Everton's goalkeeper's great performance.
You can't expect them to win every game and that's one of the instances when they have to be satisfied with 1 point. It could've been worse if Doucoure hadn't wasted his scoring chance by waiting for too long before making the shot.
Plus, Everton is not as weak as some tend to think, at least defensively. They conceded 21 goals, which is the same as 5th Man City and it's only 3 more than Liverpool. So it's not the easiest team to score goals against.

We could agree that the word disgrace is too harsh on them but seriously this is how they the result is, Arsenal aren’t a mid table team or a club looking for a place in the champions league that they can afford to drop points against opposition like Everton. No need to bring up the Everton stats about having almost same goals conceded by Manchester city, we all know how bad Manchester City have been this season so if a club similar to that can actually take points off Arsenal then they are simply not serious then. This is the same Everton that Manchester United won with a four goals deficit the other day so there shouldn’t be an excuses for them.

You said we don’t expect them to win all matches, I say Arsenal lost just once from January to may last season and guess what they ended losing the league which simply signifies one thing, to be crown champion you need to win all matches if possible according to Liverpool ex manager Jurgen Klopp. So seriously there is no excuse worth it to explain thg

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I am waiting for the Manchester derby today, it captivates attention, and the situation of the second team is not good, Man United and Man City performance are declining, and this will be a very exciting match where from my point of view that does not have the performance of performance too far now so I expect a very pleasant match.

Although at the invoice the city has a higher value to Man City, but now I think it is still very confusing if in the conclusion of personal analysis, both have the opportunity to win the match.

This is certainly a game I won't miss by any chance and the most interesting part is that for like three Manchester city loses I have actually placed a tangible amount of cash on them to lose the game and it all favoured me and that's why am thinking of maybe actually risking a dollar or two on tomorrow derby but the crazy part is the red half of Manchester is also not my favorite when it comes to sport betting and moreover they are also in mess when it comes to form just like their city rivals so it will be quite interesting to see who comes out Victorious.

Manchester City and Manchester United are both aggressive teams in this match, but Manchester City is currently struggling with a very bad time towards the end of this season. How reasonable is the possibility of them roaring again after losing three consecutive matches?
I think they will definitely perform well in today's match. Because if Manchester City loses this match again after losing a few matches, then Manchester City fans will never forgive. Each team will enter this match with their full squad, but until we see the game to the end, we will not be sure which team will be able to win. That's why we have to wait and see the game.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 14, 2024, 05:52:12 PM

Newcastle had a rough performance through the previous weeks including losing to WestHam, a tie with crystal palace and Liverpool, then a lose to Brentford (last four premier League matches) pushing them to the 11th position on the table with so many goals conceived... At this point, it's clear that they don't seem to interested in the trophy (which is somewhat an impossibility) but tackling on bigger teams that are not rotted firmly. Well, let's watch out for the return matches for atleast 3 teams that have been paired already.
Meanwhile, Isak was a beast in the game.. !

I was very surprised to see Newcastle deliver such an incredible performance against Leicester City today after a run of poor results in their last five four league games. Eddie Howe who's been under intense pressure to get the club back to winning ways or face being sacked will be very happy with his team's performance and result in that game.
Leicester City new coach Ruud Van Nisterooy will definitely be disappointed with his team's result today in that game but I think he still have time to improve the team and get better results in games to come

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I am waiting for the Manchester derby today, it captivates attention, and the situation of the second team is not good, Man United and Man City performance are declining, and this will be a very exciting match where from my point of view that does not have the performance of performance too far now so I expect a very pleasant match.

Although at the invoice the city has a higher value to Man City, but now I think it is still very confusing if in the conclusion of personal analysis, both have the opportunity to win the match.

This is certainly a game I won't miss by any chance and the most interesting part is that for like three Manchester city loses I have actually placed a tangible amount of cash on them to lose the game and it all favoured me and that's why am thinking of maybe actually risking a dollar or two on tomorrow derby but the crazy part is the red half of Manchester is also not my favorite when it comes to sport betting and moreover they are also in mess when it comes to form just like their city rivals so it will be quite interesting to see who comes out Victorious.

Anticipating tomorrow's game, I can't miss watching the match. I'll be making some bet on that game probably going for a risky option. Both teams are not on their best forms but the chances of Manchester United winning the game is low, its obvious from the odds and stats of their head to head meetings, but in meetings like this the impossible may happen. This is a tough match though I've come into conclusions of what options I'll be picking, but I have some choices to pick from.

I was surprised to see Liverpool draw the match after receiving a red card in the first half. It wasn't an easy game for them, Fulham literally tried to frustrate their efforts but yet they showed how big of a team they are. If Liverpool keeps up with this form, they are likely to win the EPL, but due to their performance in previous seasons, we don't know if history will repeat itself, but if it does, Chelsea is willing to take it from there.

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