Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 216.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 05, 2024, 05:47:20 PM

I think Chelsea are also fighting for the title this season.I think people don’t rate Chelsea as title contenders because they are looking at Chelsea form in previous seasons and forming their opinions based on that. I think they have what it takes to keep up the momentum for the title chase. Enzo Maresca has greatly transformed Chelsea, I love the attacking brilliance of Enzo Maresca. Chelsea have proved to me that they have what it takes to be considered title contenders this season.

There is no doubt that Chelsea have changed a lot compared to last season. They finished in 6th place last season, and now, step by step, they have finally climbed to 2nd place and are competing with the top clubs that used to bully them. Just imagine how hard they have worked.

and for the next match, Chelsea will face Tottenham, this is not easy. Tottenham are also in their best form, so this will be a very tight match to watch.

The big difference is that they finally can have winning streaks and go unbeaten for several games in a row. This was fundamentally different last season when after every win there was a defeat inbound, which was a real roller coaster and once they thought they are on a good way, they got beaten by a team from the relegation zone. But now they seem to be up to things and know how to handle teams of all levels, which is good for the competition in the Premier League.

And by the way, which I didn't really pay attention to, Chelsea is among the best offenses in the Premier League now, if not the best. They belong where they are for the moment, but it is all about keeping the momentum and this is what they struggled the most with in the past.

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I think Ruben Amorim is still trying to adjust to the players and sort out the players that will make it in his first eleven next year. The formation Amorim used against Arsenal was not bad at all. Manchester United played well and only conceded to two corners, they were never outclassed in the match. It was unfortunate that Manchester United lost the match despite playing well. Manchester United will recover from this minor setback and try their best to win their next game.

There is no point in speculating whether Ruben Amorim is still trying to adjust to the players or not because this is self-evident. He has been there for just a few weeks, so how should it be any different now... Of course he still needs to get used to the team, learn how everyone receives his messages and is able to adapt to what Amorim requires from the players. How should it be any different when a coach changes teams in the middle of the season?

I have never expected Amorim to win against Arsenal. Arsenal has been a club in a good form right from last two seasons. They have been good and consistent. Now compare them to struggling Manchester United under a new coach who has never played any preseason with the club.

According to you, Manchester United played very well and they were scored through corner because Arsenal has learnt to do that.

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That's to say Amorim willingly went on to take someone's problem, leaving Sporting to Man UTD isn't the right move and you'd agree with me that is his first mistake to start with. The project Manchester United need to start for the team to grow has to take up to 3 years plus but the fans are not ready to wait for that long, imagine waiting for long to get the team to be in a better shape without winning anything and you see other smaller clubs dominating, I don't think UTD is ready to be that kind of club, the rebuilding type.
If you looking for whom to blame the loss on, it should be the whole squad not excluding Onana and Bruno. Bruno was no where to be found and his body language tells it all that he couldn't fight back to regain the midfield or try to win the game, it was too much for him last night. The manager just need to start a clean foundation before the end of the season, it show that UTD have many players who don't deserve to be at the club and he should start dropping those players before things start getting out of hand.

I wouldn't blame Amorim because as a coach I think you can come across these opportunities and you just can't say no. It's like Ronaldo who went to Saudi Arabia. Nobody ever thought that one day we would see Ronaldo play in a jersey of a club from Saudi Arabia. But the truth is if anyone offers you $250 million per year, almost nobody in the world would decline such an offer.

I agree with you that Amorim must have been aware that he is going to leave the perfect environment that he himself helped building in Sporting, to go to a club that is a disaster. But if he got this once in a lifetime opportunity, a job guarantee for 3 years, a big salary and maybe some other favorable terms which we don't know about, I think it is quite likely that maybe we wouldn't have declined either.

But ultimately this project could turn out to be a huge failure. He may have made some money in the end, but I am not so sure that it will be possible to bring Manchester United back on track in the short term. There are too many broken things and they are likely to miss the UEFA competitions for next year, which will make it difficult to sign new top players as they prefer to play in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 05, 2024, 05:47:20 PM

I think Chelsea are also fighting for the title this season.I think people don’t rate Chelsea as title contenders because they are looking at Chelsea form in previous seasons and forming their opinions based on that. I think they have what it takes to keep up the momentum for the title chase. Enzo Maresca has greatly transformed Chelsea, I love the attacking brilliance of Enzo Maresca. Chelsea have proved to me that they have what it takes to be considered title contenders this season.

There is no doubt that Chelsea have changed a lot compared to last season. They finished in 6th place last season, and now, step by step, they have finally climbed to 2nd place and are competing with the top clubs that used to bully them. Just imagine how hard they have worked.

and for the next match, Chelsea will face Tottenham, this is not easy. Tottenham are also in their best form, so this will be a very tight match to watch.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 05, 2024, 06:17:17 PM

I think Ruben Amorim is still trying to adjust to the players and sort out the players that will make it in his first eleven next year. The formation Amorim used against Arsenal was not bad at all. Manchester United played well and only conceded to two corners, they were never outclassed in the match. It was unfortunate that Manchester United lost the match despite playing well. Manchester United will recover from this minor setback and try their best to win their next game.

There is no point in speculating whether Ruben Amorim is still trying to adjust to the players or not because this is self-evident. He has been there for just a few weeks, so how should it be any different now... Of course he still needs to get used to the team, learn how everyone receives his messages and is able to adapt to what Amorim requires from the players. How should it be any different when a coach changes teams in the middle of the season?

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Amorim managed to make the game a little better, but Arsenal are in better form now and it showed, especially in the second half. I think it is too early to evaluate Amorim's work, only a few games, he is trying to understand who will be the main players of his team, and I expect that in the winter transfer window there may be big changes in the team. I see that Manchester United players are trying, but it is clearly not enough to beat Arsenal.

Why did he make so many changes to the side that beat Everton last weekend? I expected a tough lineup against Arsenal, not the B team combined with the A team I saw. What was the point of bringing those A players in the second half if they didn't start because he wanted to rest them? He didn't handle the game well, and the loss is on him.

Arteta came prepared with a strong lineup but Amorim was busy playing mind game with his.

I think Ruben Amorim is still trying to adjust to the players and sort out the players that will make it in his first eleven next year. The formation Amorim used against Arsenal was not bad at all. Manchester United played well and only conceded to two corners, they were never outclassed in the match. It was unfortunate that Manchester United lost the match despite playing well. Manchester United will recover from this minor setback and try their best to win their next game.

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Up to today I’m still surprise the way Chelsea performs has been moving well all this while compared to their last season performances

Yes, you are right. Chelsea’s performance this season under their Enzo Maresca has been pretty good. They have started scoring highly in both their domestic league and in the conference league too. Their current position is a testament of the good progress Enzo Maresca has brought to the club. Some of their fans are even hopeful that they might win the league this season. I believe Maresca will be able to guide them them to next season’s Champions League competition.

I am not actually surprised at Chelsea's consistency this season but I would have been more surprised if they did not meet up today expectation. Chelsea's team became good last season under pochettino towards the ending of the season. But it was unfortunate that Todd didn't allow pochettino to rip the fruit of his labour. Good that the present coach even is doing better and I don't expect Chelsea to struggle again any moment. My next advice to them is not to relax but to utilize the January transfer window to reinforce the team, they could be the new Manchester City.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 05, 2024, 05:47:20 PM

I think Chelsea are also fighting for the title this season.I think people don’t rate Chelsea as title contenders because they are looking at Chelsea form in previous seasons and forming their opinions based on that. I think they have what it takes to keep up the momentum for the title chase. Enzo Maresca has greatly transformed Chelsea, I love the attacking brilliance of Enzo Maresca. Chelsea have proved to me that they have what it takes to be considered title contenders this season.

Pochettino young squad inheritance has now developed rapidly thanks to the cool hand of Enzo Maresca. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Chelsea has the opportunity to become a title contender team at this time, in fact they are Liverpool's closest competitors at the top of the standings. Not only Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City also have the opportunity to enliven the competition in the future. There is no guarantee that Liverpool will continue to perform consistently until the end of the season, so that makes us conclude that anything is still possible. As time goes by, public opinion about Chelsea will certainly change again, they will get a lot of praise if they are able to create a competitive axis with Liverpool this season.

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Quote from: ginsan on December 05, 2024, 04:56:43 PM

The temporary score is 1-0 where Bournemouth is leading for the time being. The match has entered the 80th minute and if Tottenham cannot use the remaining time to play more aggressively in attack then they will lose today's match. I think Postecoglou underestimated the opponent he faced because he changed the strategy in this match and that was the mistake he made.

Bournemouth was able to maintain the one goal lead they had till the ending of the match. Bournemouth was able to get three points in the match, which is really a nice one. I see no reason why Postecoglou will even underestimate Bournemouth, we all know how dangerous Bournemouth is, and we all have seen how they have played in previous matches. Top clubs are always finding it difficult to win against them, so I never expected Tottenham to joke with them in the match. Bournemouth was able to get a win in the match, which is really a nice one. Postecoglou should know that when it comes to Premier League matches, then no club should be underestimated. I think he has learnt his lesson.

Tottenham's next match will be against Chelsea, which we can see that they are performing well currently. I don’t really know if Tottenham will be able to win against Chelsea in the match, because from the way Chelsea is playing currently, they are not ready to lose to any club, and any club that will be facing Chelsea currently will have to be very careful, Chelsea is dangerous currently.

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But there was honestly no way that Manchester United would be able to win that game away from home against Arsenal.They have now won three consecutive games and are in great shape, which is still not the case for Manchester United and as you said, it still feels like ETH is coaching them. He has had so much negative impact on the team that I think it will take quite some time for Amorim to get changes going and improve the team.

The reason why I'd say what happened suit him (Amorim), is because I see ETH in him, the way and manner ten Heg managed the team is the same way I believe the man Amorim will handle the team, he talks too much. In a situation like this where you have to manage a team that hasn't been consistent you don't give the media too much, you talk less and allow your work to speak more for you, that's why I would have preferred Nistelrooy, well that's how he (Amorim) thinks the club can go forward.

There is still a lot of homework for Amorim so to Manchester United fans please hold your expectations because Amorim still has a long way to go to be able to implement the game according to his tactics. Onana and Bruno play for the club but the rest I don't understand they lost teamwork today. It must be admitted that 2 goals were created from the same scheme, namely corner kicks.

That's to say Amorim willingly went on to take someone's problem, leaving Sporting to Man UTD isn't the right move and you'd agree with me that is his first mistake to start with. The project Manchester United need to start for the team to grow has to take up to 3 years plus but the fans are not ready to wait for that long, imagine waiting for long to get the team to be in a better shape without winning anything and you see other smaller clubs dominating, I don't think UTD is ready to be that kind of club, the rebuilding type.
If you looking for whom to blame the loss on, it should be the whole squad not excluding Onana and Bruno. Bruno was no where to be found and his body language tells it all that he couldn't fight back to regain the midfield or try to win the game, it was too much for him last night. The manager just need to start a clean foundation before the end of the season, it show that UTD have many players who don't deserve to be at the club and he should start dropping those players before things start getting out of hand.

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Why the hell is none talking about Chelsea? They stepped om from a mid tier team to the top 3 team. I remember when many people, oh many pundit as well bantered them to be relegation team. The club overloaded players in their squad, but the opposite thing is happening right now.

Chelsea is now competing with Arsenal for the second place. It seems to me they will able to defend their current position to go to the UCL next season. They have two squad that has same quality, and easy to rotate them.

I think Chelsea has a chance for the title contenders, though Maresca always denied it. I know how Maresca is always down to the earth.

That's the difference between Chelsea and Arsenal. Chelsea is competing for second place but Arsenal is chasing for the title. Liverpool will drop a point. Chelsea might not be able to keep up with their performance because they still have strong games ahead of them. Anyway, next year will tell because the season has just begun. We will see more big teams dropping points next year and that will decide which is in the title race.

This doesn't stop me from giving credit to Enzo Maresca for what he is doing in Chelsea. They have improved from finishing below the 11th position for the past two seasons. And now they are in second position. More is expected from the team if they want to qualify for the Champions League next season.

I think Chelsea are also fighting for the title this season.I think people don’t rate Chelsea as title contenders because they are looking at Chelsea form in previous seasons and forming their opinions based on that. I think they have what it takes to keep up the momentum for the title chase. Enzo Maresca has greatly transformed Chelsea, I love the attacking brilliance of Enzo Maresca. Chelsea have proved to me that they have what it takes to be considered title contenders this season.

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The gap between Manchester City and the top of the Premier League table is getting bigger and bigger which means they are getting far from winning the Premier League title and this put Guardiola under more pressure since Manchester City couldn't get good results as they usually got before. Maybe we can't blame Guadiola for anything because Manchester City had to give him some more players as they got in Arsenal and the other similar teams but sadly couldn't spend money like many other teams and they were usually just losing the players.
Even in the game against Liverpool, Manchester City lost the game with a 2-0 result which means Slot is performing much better than Guardiola in Manchester City.

I don't think the gap between Manchester City to the top of the Premier League standing is getting any bigger. With Liverpool recent draw and City’s victory that broke their losing 5 game losing streak, the points separating them reduced to 7 points and I don’t think 7 points is such a big gap. I am very sure with the quality of players available at Manchester City and the quality of coach they have, I am confident City can be able to mount a significant pressure on Liverpool and win the league this season.

The gap between Liverpool and Manchester City is 9 points not 7 and Manchester City reclaiming back the top spot is only possible if the performance of Liverpool keeps reducing and they drop 9 points which is losing 3 matches that's when we can see Manchester City having the opportunity of winning the league title again this season. Manchester City has a good manager be their squad is very strong but you will not fail to recognize the presence of the Liverpool Manager and the form of Liverpool this season which makes it clear that they are the favorite to win the league this season regardless of what Manchester City will do as they are bouncing back to playing well again. I think Pep Guardiola will manage to finish as runners up in the league this season but I don't see them finishing ahead of Liverpool and winning the league title again this season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 05, 2024, 02:26:49 PM

The gap between Manchester City and the top of the Premier League table is getting bigger and bigger which means they are getting far from winning the Premier League title and this put Guardiola under more pressure since Manchester City couldn't get good results as they usually got before. Maybe we can't blame Guadiola for anything because Manchester City had to give him some more players as they got in Arsenal and the other similar teams but sadly couldn't spend money like many other teams and they were usually just losing the players.
Even in the game against Liverpool, Manchester City lost the game with a 2-0 result which means Slot is performing much better than Guardiola in Manchester City.

I don't think the gap between Manchester City to the top of the Premier League standing is getting any bigger. With Liverpool recent draw and City’s victory that broke their losing 5 game losing streak, the points separating them reduced to 7 points and I don’t think 7 points is such a big gap. I am very sure with the quality of players available at Manchester City and the quality of coach they have, I am confident City can be able to mount a significant pressure on Liverpool and win the league this season.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 05, 2024, 03:28:16 PM

I find it very difficult to predict which team will win this match. Tottenham is a team that has a strong attack. Despite having a strong attack, Tottenham's performance is inconsistent. Tottenham has won 6 matches this season and lost 5 matches. On the other hand, we all know that Bournemouth is not a very strong team. Bournemouth is in 13th place in the points table. However, Bournemouth has won against Arsenal and City this season. That is why most of the gamblers are betting on Bournemouth to win today's match. However, my prediction for this match is that the match will be a 1-1 draw.

The temporary score is 1-0 where Bournemouth is leading for the time being. The match has entered the 80th minute and if Tottenham cannot use the remaining time to play more aggressively in attack then they will lose today's match. I think Postecoglou underestimated the opponent he faced because he changed the strategy in this match and that was the mistake he made.

If you look at the game statistics, of course Tottenham was able to control the course of the match. They also made many good attacks but none of them were able to finish into goals. If you look at the temporary standings table, of course Tottenham's performance this season is still unstable and relatively declining compared to the previous season because up to the 14th match Tottenham was still stuck in 10th place.

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Mo Salah may deserve a contract for how he has been playing this season, but that doesn't mean that we are going to get that without much issues, we shouldn't really consider that as a good deal because if you pay him a lot due to this season and he ends up not playing great next season, that may cause concern, plus I am pretty sure that he is asking for a multi-year contract, and his starting talking point could be three seasons, and three seasons would be way too much, he could be a lot worse by the end of the contract.

In any case, with the way things are going, to keep the team chemistry going, they could just sign him, and if he gets any worse, they could try to get him to a Saudi team later on, that could still work. I feel like it is going to be a tough decision for them, but Salah has been performing at the top of his game, and you do not end up selling a player or not even that, just not sign him back, when he is performing like this.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 04, 2024, 05:29:51 PM

Seeing Arsenal getting all their goals via corner kick is something others should take more of, literally they have been referred to as the best set piece team in the premier League. In the first half Manchester United was brilliant but sadly in the second half they couldn't get a good attempt at Arsenal, it became almost one sided, and the history continues of Manchester United not been able to win Arsenal in the past years.

Arsenal’s ability to execute set pieces and convert them into goals makes them standout in the league and have also earned them the reputation as the best set piece team in the Premier League. Mikel Arteta does not care about entertaining football, he’s found a cheat code in corners and be rest assured he’s going to take advantage of it to win. Manchester United played a good game but Arsenal were just too good at set prices. It is hard to defend against Arsenal’s corner routine. I think Manchester United players lost their confidence and stopped pressing after they conceded the first goal. I don’t think Manchester United fans should be unhappy about the results, they should focus on how well their team performed and trust in the work Amorim is doing in the club.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 05, 2024, 02:26:49 PM

The gap between Manchester City and the top of the Premier League table is getting bigger and bigger which means they are getting far from winning the Premier League title and this put Guardiola under more pressure since Manchester City couldn't get good results as they usually got before. Maybe we can't blame Guadiola for anything because Manchester City had to give him some more players as they got in Arsenal and the other similar teams but sadly couldn't spend money like many other teams and they were usually just losing the players.
Even in the game against Liverpool, Manchester City lost the game with a 2-0 result which means Slot is performing much better than Guardiola in Manchester City.

The interesting thing about Manchester City is that they are still amongst top three even with all of the loosing streak and set backs. Guadiola isn't to be really blamed but will be blamed at some point because he's the head coach and tactical he's the one who tells the players what to do hence when they begin to suffer set backs like this, he's got a big part to blame.

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The gap between Manchester City and the top of the Premier League table is getting bigger and bigger which means they are getting far from winning the Premier League title and this put Guardiola under more pressure since Manchester City couldn't get good results as they usually got before. Maybe we can't blame Guadiola for anything because Manchester City had to give him some more players as they got in Arsenal and the other similar teams but sadly couldn't spend money like many other teams and they were usually just losing the players.
Even in the game against Liverpool, Manchester City lost the game with a 2-0 result which means Slot is performing much better than Guardiola in Manchester City.

Luckily Manchester City have collected many points in the previous match, so the 4 consecutive defeats they experienced did not make them drop to the middle of the standings. Man City remains at the top of the standings, but of course with the points that continue to lag far behind the leader of the standings, namely Liverpool, it will be quite difficult for Man City to reclaim the top position in the standings.

although in the previous match Man City had to lose to Liverpool, but in yesterday's match against Nottingham Forest, which previously they were able to beat Liverpool, but in yesterday's match Man City performed quite well and Nottingham Forest had to admit defeat with a landslide score at the hands of Man City. And I hope that the good performance shown yesterday against Nottingham Forest, [this kind of performance can last for several matches to come.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on December 05, 2024, 03:19:31 PM

Arne Slot definitely managed to find that perfect strategy for the team, they were already pretty decent with Klopp of course and they had this chemistry that kept them near the top aside from maybe a few seasons, they won EPL and UCL with Klopp so they did alright, but Arne came over and found something that was missing, not sure what it was but they did and when they did that it was definitely a shocker to many people because nobody expected them to be this good.

At this point, while I know there are many games left, I still think that we might see them do fairly well, and win this whole thing. I know that we have a lot of games left, we have still many months until the season ends and everything could change by that time, but unless there is a big injury to some of the most important players, I can't see how Liverpool could get worse, even with fatigue, they are still the best team right now. They would have to go through something like City just did, fail to win for 6-7 games, otherwise I doubt they will do badly.

Arne Slot inherited a mature squad from Jurgen Klopp, with a different approach and strategy, his polished Liverpool appeared more aggressive and promising in every match. So far, Arne Slot has been quite lucky because his squad has not been hit by a significant storm of injuries. Almost all teams participating in European competitions will face a tight match schedule, and Liverpool only need to ensure they perform consistently to continue to advance in the path of winning trophies. Their chances of winning trophies are equally big at this time, both in the Premier League and in the Champions League.

Everything can still change quickly, but I don't think Liverpool will lose their consistency in the future. Liverpool success in leading the top standings at this time cannot be separated from their very solid defense line, in 14 matches they have only conceded 11 goals in the Premier League, and 1 goal in the Champions League. Their front line is also very productive, and in general Liverpool this season has all the attributes needed to achieve success in every competition they participate in. Manchester City dip in form has provided some relief for Arne Slot.

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Quote from: AYOBA on December 04, 2024, 03:31:03 PM

Up to today I’m still surprise the way Chelsea performs has been moving well all this while compared to their last season performances

Yes, you are right. Chelsea’s performance this season under their Enzo Maresca has been pretty good. They have started scoring highly in both their domestic league and in the conference league too. Their current position is a testament of the good progress Enzo Maresca has brought to the club. Some of their fans are even hopeful that they might win the league this season. I believe Maresca will be able to guide them them to next season’s Champions League competition.

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