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Quote from: reagansimms on December 05, 2024, 11:33:06 AM

Now Amorim is starting to feel how competitive the EPL competition is after Arsenal gave him his first defeat with Manchester United. He needs to do something to boost the team's performance in order to improve their position in the standings, the defeat has seen them drop to 11th place.
The January transfer window must be used to rebuild the squad to get them back to their best form. As a coach who has just set foot in the EPL, Amorim must be able to show what he has done with his previous team. Maybe he will bring in some of his former subordinates at Sporting to make the job easier at Manchester United.

He is already aware about how competitive the league is because he has played against many teams that he couldn't beat from Premier League in another leagues, he even met with Manchester United twice with his sporting teams twice and he couldn't beat them. The thing is that Arteta was more like pro of Guardiola, he didn't score make his boys to score the usual ways and that's how Arsenal was able to bypass their defenders without counter attack.

Amorim is a new coach and will adapt just like the other guys succeeded here. Liverpool is one of the best that has improved in performance but he didn't buy and sell players as many people thinks and yet they are doing fantastically in any games they played. The coaches can only do their best but the main result is from the effort of the players, you can't tell me that Guardiola isn't a great manager but yet the players are fumbling everyday losing matches in the last few weeks.

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This is good news for the Arsenal fans. The kings of the set piece. The new rule will bring about multiple corners in the game and teams who can make good use of their corners will score as much as they can. 8 seconds in my opinion is too small for this rule. It should be extended if not many goalkeepers will fall victim to it. What do you guys think of this new rule? Is it comfortable for all the teams or is biased?

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on December 05, 2024, 12:52:40 PM

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Bournemouth are the favorites for today's game. Why are Tottenham winning odds so high? Tottenham are having an inconsistent season but Bournemouth are not better than them. They haven't won two games in a row this season and I find the odds interesting. I see 1.98 odds for Bournemouth win and 2.53 odds for Tottenham win. I think Tottenham will win this game and get back into the top 5 again.

Tottenham are not a reliable side this season. Their performances so far is not encouraging. I don't believe that Tottenham can win Bournemouth, Bournemouth are very strong at home and they have won quite some good numbers of games in their home. The odds are in favour of Bournemouth to win because Bournemouth has what it takes to win. Tottenham don't have that fear factor anymore. They are not the same Tottenham we used to know few years back. Tottenham might be higher than Bournemouth in the league table with two points, but that is going to change after the match tonight. Bournemouth hardly lose match at home this season and they are going to make things very difficult for Tottenham.

Tottenham is not a weak team at all. Tottenham players have been able to score 28 goals in 13 matches. Tottenham also has the ability to win by a large margin. However, Tottenham's main problem is that their overall gameplay is very irregular. This team has failed to perform well consistently.

Tottenham has drawn with Fulham and Roma in the last two matches. However, they have won 4-0 against Manchester City in the previous match. However, Tottenham lost 2-1 against a weak team like Ipswich Town. So it cannot be said that Tottenham will win against Bournemouth. This season, Bournemouth is not considered weak either. I have seen Bournemouth perform well against big teams in several matches. Bournemouth was even able to win against Manchester City.

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Quote from: Josefjix on December 05, 2024, 11:32:35 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on December 05, 2024, 09:49:22 AM

Surprisingly,

Manchester City win a big margin against Nottingham Forrest.

Liverpool can't beat Newcastle.

However as expected Manchester United lose against Arsenal, another stupid rotation and strategy by Amorim. Mount is already a finished player, Garnacho isn't a creative player, Bruno should back to his main position.

Manchester city win was expected but Liverpool coming back twice against Newcastle and still drop 2 points was least expected I think Konate absent was felt in they game, Van Dijk couldn't do it alone. Next game is against Everton.

Can't Amorim can't blame for giving Mount a good start but the players letting Arsenal ride on them with corner kicks like that was crazy.

I can't blame Amorim because he didn't build the team. He's still making moves to understand the team. Arsenal is a very serious rival and the players have known each other very well for a long time. At Manchester United, when the squad and tactics were not yet fully defined, it was already unlikely that they would win such a match. The squad he will build next year and the successes he will achieve may cause the Portuguese manager to be criticized. This year, their main goal should be to finish the league in the top ranks and go to the European cups.

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Quote from: punk.zink on December 05, 2024, 11:41:32 AM

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Well, there is nothing strange about the defeat experienced by Manchester United, because this is a big match and also Manchester United played away which made them unable to get points in this match. But at least, Manchester United has made a good effort in the first half although indeed, it was still not enough for Manchester United to hold Arsenal who played at home. But at least, I personally am still not so confident about Amorim, because it seems that Amorim has a lot of pressure which also makes it difficult for him to improve the quality of Manchester United quickly. Indeed, in some previous matches Amorim succeeded, but it was only playing against mediocre teams, but for a big match like this, then Amorim is still not successful enough.
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Man United came to Emirates stadium with less convincing conditions, therefore Amorim tried to experiment again because he could not field the squad that was the starter in the match against Everton. It's unfortunate that Lisandro Martinez and Kobbie Mainoo couldn't play because they both received 5 yellow cards and were to be punished with a one game suspension. Man United played well until the first half, but in the second half, Arsenal played better than them.

Although Manchester United came to this stadium with less confidence, they still kept possession of the ball, just like Arsenal. The possession of the ball was 50/50 between the two teams, but Manchester United could not attack strongly here and could not score many goals. However, compared to Arsenal, Manchester United's goalkeeper made many more saves, otherwise there would have been more goals. It is very challenging for any team to not be able to play good players, which is what Manchester United faced. In the first half and second half, both teams played well enough, but Man United's attack was not strong, which is why they lost. However, Arsenal's performance in this match was much improved, their strong attack was fortunate for them, and Man United was unfortunate for them.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on December 05, 2024, 12:52:40 PM

Tottenham are not a reliable side this season. Their performances so far is not encouraging. I don't believe that Tottenham can win Bournemouth, Bournemouth are very strong at home and they have won quite some good numbers of games in their home. The odds are in favour of Bournemouth to win because Bournemouth has what it takes to win. Tottenham don't have that fear factor anymore. They are not the same Tottenham we used to know few years back. Tottenham might be higher than Bournemouth in the league table with two points, but that is going to change after the match tonight. Bournemouth hardly lose match at home this season and they are going to make things very difficult for Tottenham.

Tottenham’s performance is not reliable, that’s how they did last season, they started the season very well and failed along the way, they have now started to have poor performances this season after having some wonderful performances against big teams they are now struggling to get three points against other average teams.

Statistically, Tottenham is the favorite to win against Bournemouth even though they will be playing away from home because they won their last two matches against Bournemouth, and they will try to recover anytime soon so that they will not lose their stand in the EPL table anytime soon.

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Quote from: Dickiy on December 05, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

It's only a matter of time until Amorim can really bring Man Utd back on the right track, we'll just have to wait in the transfer market later, of course Amorim will bring in new faces so that his scheme can succeed because I see that for now there are still players who are not suitable for the scheme implemented by Amorim, it was seen in the match against Arsenal last night, although they could keep up with the game, the attacks built by Man Utd were not that sharp, likewise in the defense sector it did not go well as Amorim wanted.

Now Amorim is starting to feel how competitive the EPL competition is after Arsenal gave him his first defeat with Manchester United. He needs to do something to boost the team's performance in order to improve their position in the standings, the defeat has seen them drop to 11th place.
The January transfer window must be used to rebuild the squad to get them back to their best form. As a coach who has just set foot in the EPL, Amorim must be able to show what he has done with his previous team. Maybe he will bring in some of his former subordinates at Sporting to make the job easier at Manchester United.

Let's see what will happen, because Amorim is new to the team, and Manchester United is not a small team, and they have been suffering from bad performance for many seasons now, so this makes me think that he will not find it as easy to get this back as some fans are thinking. I think Amorim is going to work very hard to restore this team.

When he came first, he was kind of getting lucky in winning some matches, and people were thinking they had improved, and Amorim has restored the confidence of Manchester United, which is not Manchester United, which has suffered for long now, so I don’t think they will get better in a short period of time.

At least they would have drew yesterday match and that would been credited to Amorim if they drew the game because they would have been down for sometimes but losing the game was bad for him. I was expecting draw in that game. And the funny thing is the 2 goals were not scored by strikers but defenders of Arsenal. J. Timber and W. Saliba, they all play at the central back in the club. Now that they have seen the legs of Arsenal, they will do well in their next game.

Manchester City won their game against Nottingham Forest and Everton who was beating by Manchester United beating Wolves 4-0. Chelsea does not want to take last again. They beat Southampton 5-1. That is a good recommendation for them.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on December 05, 2024, 09:46:42 AM

Bournemouth are the favorites for today's game. Why are Tottenham winning odds so high? Tottenham are having an inconsistent season but Bournemouth are not better than them. They haven't won two games in a row this season and I find the odds interesting. I see 1.98 odds for Bournemouth win and 2.53 odds for Tottenham win. I think Tottenham will win this game and get back into the top 5 again.

Tottenham are not a reliable side this season. Their performances so far is not encouraging. I don't believe that Tottenham can win Bournemouth, Bournemouth are very strong at home and they have won quite some good numbers of games in their home. The odds are in favour of Bournemouth to win because Bournemouth has what it takes to win. Tottenham don't have that fear factor anymore. They are not the same Tottenham we used to know few years back. Tottenham might be higher than Bournemouth in the league table with two points, but that is going to change after the match tonight. Bournemouth hardly lose match at home this season and they are going to make things very difficult for Tottenham.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on December 05, 2024, 12:11:25 PM

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Team	Point
Liverpool	35
Chelsea	28
Arsenal	28
Man. City	26
Brighton	23
Nottingham Forest	22
Aston Villa	22
Tottenham	20
Brentford	20
Newcastle	20
Man. United	19
Fulham	19
Bournemouth	18
West Ham	15
Everton	14
Leicester	13
Crystal Palace	12
Ipswich Town	9
Wolves	9
Southampton	5

Liverpool really want to win the Premier League this season..

Liverpool is topping the league, they have 7 points gap, which is considerably safe enough. They missed full points from Newcastle's game, yet they have easy fixtures to come soon.

Having 7 points gap is enough to win the title as long as they can keep balling till the end of season. It's hard, but nothing is impossible if they can put in more effort in order to reach their target.

THey're now the title contender. They have to work harder than before consider this season is gonna be a very long. The problem may be happening at the mid - late season when their players start to exhaust.

I dont see anyone close to them to make an impact on the title. Arsenal and Man City took advantage of the draw but that is far from enough. I think Liverpool is too good and on another level . Man City only now won and its still a question if they can continue to win without any contribution from Haaland.

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Quote from: reagansimms on December 05, 2024, 11:33:06 AM

Quote from: Dickiy on December 05, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

It's only a matter of time until Amorim can really bring Man Utd back on the right track, we'll just have to wait in the transfer market later, of course Amorim will bring in new faces so that his scheme can succeed because I see that for now there are still players who are not suitable for the scheme implemented by Amorim, it was seen in the match against Arsenal last night, although they could keep up with the game, the attacks built by Man Utd were not that sharp, likewise in the defense sector it did not go well as Amorim wanted.

Now Amorim is starting to feel how competitive the EPL competition is after Arsenal gave him his first defeat with Manchester United. He needs to do something to boost the team's performance in order to improve their position in the standings, the defeat has seen them drop to 11th place.
The January transfer window must be used to rebuild the squad to get them back to their best form. As a coach who has just set foot in the EPL, Amorim must be able to show what he has done with his previous team. Maybe he will bring in some of his former subordinates at Sporting to make the job easier at Manchester United.

Let's see what will happen, because Amorim is new to the team, and Manchester United is not a small team, and they have been suffering from bad performance for many seasons now, so this makes me think that he will not find it as easy to get this back as some fans are thinking. I think Amorim is going to work very hard to restore this team.

When he came first, he was kind of getting lucky in winning some matches, and people were thinking they had improved, and Amorim has restored the confidence of Manchester United, which is not Manchester United, which has suffered for long now, so I don’t think they will get better in a short period of time.

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Quote from: reagansimms on December 05, 2024, 11:33:06 AM

Now Amorim is starting to feel how competitive the EPL competition is after Arsenal gave him his first defeat with Manchester United. He needs to do something to boost the team's performance in order to improve their position in the standings, the defeat has seen them drop to 11th place.

Amorim is a good coach, but the fans expecting and hype is very high; Manchester United fans are expecting him to make things work immediately, and it’s not done that way because Ten Hag has caused a lot of damage to the team which will take Amorim some time to make things balance.
Generally, Amorim have good ambition and his very good, he can make United a better team maybe anytime soon or next season if the management gave him money to sign more players because some players need to leave United.

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The January transfer window must be used to rebuild the squad to get them back to their best form. As a coach who has just set foot in the EPL, Amorim must be able to show what he has done with his previous team. Maybe he will bring in some of his former subordinates at Sporting to make the job easier at Manchester United.

Not just Amorim or Manchester United, any team really need this January transfer window because it is a time to make corrections, and I am sure if Amorim have chance to to sign more players, he will make Manchester United more competitive than they are now.

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Quote from: giammangiato on December 05, 2024, 08:16:12 AM

Team	Point
Liverpool	35
Chelsea	28
Arsenal	28
Man. City	26
Brighton	23
Nottingham Forest	22
Aston Villa	22
Tottenham	20
Brentford	20
Newcastle	20
Man. United	19
Fulham	19
Bournemouth	18
West Ham	15
Everton	14
Leicester	13
Crystal Palace	12
Ipswich Town	9
Wolves	9
Southampton	5

Liverpool really want to win the Premier League this season..

Liverpool is topping the league, they have 7 points gap, which is considerably safe enough. They missed full points from Newcastle's game, yet they have easy fixtures to come soon.

Having 7 points gap is enough to win the title as long as they can keep balling till the end of season. It's hard, but nothing is impossible if they can put in more effort in order to reach their target.

THey're now the title contender. They have to work harder than before consider this season is gonna be a very long. The problem may be happening at the mid - late season when their players start to exhaust.

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Quote from: lizarder on December 05, 2024, 09:19:09 AM

Chelsea and Arsenal will be the challengers for the second position because so far to catch Liverpool at the top of the standings is very difficult and if we talk about the title competition for Chelsea then I think it is beyond their ability at this time. Arsenal have always failed to dominate the league even though in the last few seasons their performance has been much more promising but if we talk about the title competition their ability is not so promising and always fails.

In my opinion, Chelsea and Arsenal have a chance to compete for the title, they cannot only battle for second place. They are yet to complete the first half of the season, and Liverpool is seven points ahead of them. Of course, Liverpool's performance shows they can hold the top spot until the end of the season, Liverpool's situation is good. But their performance was very different from their last result against Newcastle, perhaps because Newcastle is always strong at home.

However, everyone no longer trusts Arsenal after seeing how they failed the previous two seasons. Arsenal started the season strong, dominating the league and defeating every club, but they were unable to win the Premier League. If Arsenal hadn't failed the previous season, their performance would have been more confident than any other side in the Premier League; but, with Odegaard's recovery, I feel Arsenal can defeat any club in the Premier League. On the other side, Maresca says that they are not prepared for the title challenge this season and are only fighting to place among the top four. However, I'm sure they're also competing for the Premier League title.

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Quote from: hahay on December 05, 2024, 10:59:21 AM

Well, there is nothing strange about the defeat experienced by Manchester United, because this is a big match and also Manchester United played away which made them unable to get points in this match. But at least, Manchester United has made a good effort in the first half although indeed, it was still not enough for Manchester United to hold Arsenal who played at home. But at least, I personally am still not so confident about Amorim, because it seems that Amorim has a lot of pressure which also makes it difficult for him to improve the quality of Manchester United quickly. Indeed, in some previous matches Amorim succeeded, but it was only playing against mediocre teams, but for a big match like this, then Amorim is still not successful enough.

Man United came to Emirates stadium with less convincing conditions, therefore Amorim tried to experiment again because he could not field the squad that was the starter in the match against Everton. It's unfortunate that Lisandro Martinez and Kobbie Mainoo couldn't play because they both received 5 yellow cards and were to be punished with a one game suspension. Man United played well until the first half, but in the second half, Arsenal played better than them.

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Quote from: Dickiy on December 05, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

It's only a matter of time until Amorim can really bring Man Utd back on the right track, we'll just have to wait in the transfer market later, of course Amorim will bring in new faces so that his scheme can succeed because I see that for now there are still players who are not suitable for the scheme implemented by Amorim, it was seen in the match against Arsenal last night, although they could keep up with the game, the attacks built by Man Utd were not that sharp, likewise in the defense sector it did not go well as Amorim wanted.

It's how so many persons do not want to understand this concept of time around amorim, they are all about the fact that he's been a great coach at his former team and should replicate same at Manchester United in the shortest time which obviously isn't possible, if only they can be patient awhile and give him some time maybe the change the anticipate could come soon but all cannot be done at once, and this includes the bringing of the new faces that will fit in to amorims strategy.

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Quote from: Dickiy on December 05, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

It's only a matter of time until Amorim can really bring Man Utd back on the right track, we'll just have to wait in the transfer market later, of course Amorim will bring in new faces so that his scheme can succeed because I see that for now there are still players who are not suitable for the scheme implemented by Amorim, it was seen in the match against Arsenal last night, although they could keep up with the game, the attacks built by Man Utd were not that sharp, likewise in the defense sector it did not go well as Amorim wanted.

Now Amorim is starting to feel how competitive the EPL competition is after Arsenal gave him his first defeat with Manchester United. He needs to do something to boost the team's performance in order to improve their position in the standings, the defeat has seen them drop to 11th place.
The January transfer window must be used to rebuild the squad to get them back to their best form. As a coach who has just set foot in the EPL, Amorim must be able to show what he has done with his previous team. Maybe he will bring in some of his former subordinates at Sporting to make the job easier at Manchester United.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on December 05, 2024, 09:46:42 AM

Bournemouth are the favorites for today's game. Why are Tottenham winning odds so high? Tottenham are having an inconsistent season but Bournemouth are not better than them. They haven't won two games in a row this season and I find the odds interesting. I see 1.98 odds for Bournemouth win and 2.53 odds for Tottenham win. I think Tottenham will win this game and get back into the top 5 again.

I don't agree with you that Bournemouth are the favorite to win against Tottenham because when the later plays away, they show some great performances. Tottenham have a history of winning matches that people think they will lose and losing those that people project them to win, the reason most gamblers avoid them. Therefore, I will not be surprise if Tottenham win them without mercy and I will be placing a bet in that regards.

Quote from: Helena Yu on December 05, 2024, 09:49:22 AM

However as expected Manchester United lose against Arsenal, another stupid rotation and strategy by Amorim. Mount is already a finished player, Garnacho isn't a creative player, Bruno should back to his main position.

It seems I was the only person that thought that Arsenal was not going to win Manchester United because I thought that Ruben Amorim will continue the recent good record of the team. I never knew that Arsenal was going to pull that second half surprise that say Manchester United losing the match 2:0.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on December 05, 2024, 09:49:22 AM

Surprisingly,

Manchester City win a big margin against Nottingham Forrest.

Liverpool can't beat Newcastle.

However as expected Manchester United lose against Arsenal, another stupid rotation and strategy by Amorim. Mount is already a finished player, Garnacho isn't a creative player, Bruno should back to his main position.

Manchester city win was expected but Liverpool coming back twice against Newcastle and still drop 2 points was least expected I think Konate absent was felt in they game, Van Dijk couldn't do it alone. Next game is against Everton.

Can't Amorim can't blame for giving Mount a good start but the players letting Arsenal ride on them with corner kicks like that was crazy.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 05, 2024, 10:24:58 AM

about Manchester united lost from arsenal, it seems that amorim not yet got the right strategy and formation for red devils squad, if you see amorim in the match of course you know how frustrated he is.

He has not yet found the right composition of players that he can apply in the strategy he wants, it can be seen from how he always rotates players from one match to another. I think the defeat to Arsenal was not that surprising, but Amorim must have been disappointed and looked frustrated. I think what frustrates him is how his players have not been able to implement the strategy well as he expected. Even if he changes the strategy in the middle of the match and in a situation like that, it will also be very risky. He is also an expressive coach, so he cannot hide what he thinks.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on December 05, 2024, 09:46:42 AM

Bournemouth are the favorites for today's game. Why are Tottenham winning odds so high? Tottenham are having an inconsistent season but Bournemouth are not better than them. They haven't won two games in a row this season and I find the odds interesting. I see 1.98 odds for Bournemouth win and 2.53 odds for Tottenham win. I think Tottenham will win this game and get back into the top 5 again.

Are the bookies being kind? I think the odds should belong to Tottenham, I know in that match Tottenham's status as the away team but that won't be an obstacle for them to win.
I think betting on Tottenham's victory is a decent decision or if you don't want a surprise BTTS can be considered if the odds given by the bookie are appropriate.

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