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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 08, 2023, 05:59:17 PM

Newcastle is definitely strong, this everton game was a fluke by them and I am sure they will do just fine. We also need to remember that they are seventh, not like they are at the very top, this doesn't mean its usual for them to lose to Everton, but there are like at least 10 teams that wouldn't shock the world if they beat Newcastle, sometimes its normal for teams to lose, its not really a big deal. I think they may end up with another loss, Tottenham started the season amazingly, maybe not doing all that great recently but they are definitely a tough team to beat and unlike Newcastle they are closer to the top. Lets see how they will do, but I would give the edge to Tottenham there.

In football there really is no such thing as a coincidence for me, A defeat is still a defeat and that doesn't mean we should consider Everton to have won by luck in this case because they also played very well in this match and Newcastle did have problems especially for the defense in the second half.
The mistake made for this first goal made them immediately make many subsequent mistakes including a failed offside trap that made Everton 3 goals ahead.

This needs to be corrected and indeed their performance is still very good, it's just that there are still some weaknesses that they must fix.

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Newcastle is definitely strong, this everton game was a fluke by them and I am sure they will do just fine. We also need to remember that they are seventh, not like they are at the very top, this doesn't mean its usual for them to lose to Everton, but there are like at least 10 teams that wouldn't shock the world if they beat Newcastle, sometimes its normal for teams to lose, its not really a big deal. I think they may end up with another loss, Tottenham started the season amazingly, maybe not doing all that great recently but they are definitely a tough team to beat and unlike Newcastle they are closer to the top. Lets see how they will do, but I would give the edge to Tottenham there.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on December 08, 2023, 04:51:58 PM

Newcastle is still quite strong and should not be considered weak this season because Newcastle can still compete to achieve their best position this season and we can see this through the number of points they have with their rivals who are in the top four of the standings. Newcastle are not too far behind at the moment and Everton's victory is also part of Everton's own struggle to save themselves from the relegation zone this season and that is quite a natural thing to happen to Everton in that match.

Newcastle United this season is not as strong as last season because they have not been able to break into the top 4 so far. Even though in terms of points they are close to the top 4 ranked teams, it will be quite difficult to catch up if they are not able to display their consistency in every match. Of course Newcastle united is not a weak team because Howe has polished the Newcastle united squad to be stronger, but this season other teams are stronger than them.

I think Newcastle United this season is only chasing a top 4 place and that's their target. If you look at it, it certainly compares quite drastically with last season because last season they were able to compete for the title but this season they are struggling to get back into the top 4 ranking. In the Champions League, Newcastle united could surprise many parties if they can qualify for the round of 16.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on December 08, 2023, 05:25:04 PM

Quote from: Mr.right85 on December 08, 2023, 11:24:13 AM

Sometimes in games like this, Arsenal usually give very little in away games and their control is always crazy. Don’t be shocked if Aston Villa are reduced to crumbs and do most of the defending. Manchester City had a lot spaces to exploit but they were just flat.

Let's not forget that the coach of Aston Villa, unai Emery once coached Arsenal and as such may know a thing or two on what to expect and prepare his boys equally for them. The Gunners have played a total of 52 games since 1995 and have won 31 against Aston villa and would be looking to clinch another three points. Their away form is considered excellent but I'm fearful for tomorrow. Quite true they lead the league ATM but knowing them, they can choose to fail to deliver in this crucial games maybe due to over confidence.I know Arteta won't take the game lightly but you never can tell for his men.

I hope they maintain their reign by winning the game tomorrow else Liverpool will not hesitate to topple them as we know Crystal Palace is not really a challenge.

You're right tho unai Emery coached Arsenal and he signed excellent players during his season, I loved the way he coached Arsenal during that season 2018 but I doubt if he knows the new statistics, in my opinion he knows nothing even if Aston villa will win tomorrow match we should give the players the credit not the coach I don't think Aston Villa can withstand Arsenal sincerely speaking just because they won Manchester city doesn't guarantee a win in all their match, the fact is we should not put high expectations on big team cause small teams this season are on fire.

With your predictions on Liverpool vs crystal palace it seems you've foresee the match, why underrating crystal palace let's not forget this season has not been stable so we should limit our expectations, if I want to predict definitely I will choose Liverpool but it doesn't work that way this season

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Quote from: Iroh on December 07, 2023, 05:26:52 PM

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This was an unexpected loss for Newcastle. I didn’t think they could lose to Everton but they conceded 3 goals and lost. Newcastle had things going on well for them and more or less controlled the ball but couldn’t find even a goal. They had more of the ball within their possession but could not do enough worth it to score goals and win. It almost seemed Everton was the one who was hungry for the win. Looking at how many fouls Everton players committed as well as yellow cards given by the referee.
Everton stepped up late during the second half and scored their first goal. Not relenting, they rode on the momentum and scored two more goals, sealing their win.

Perhaps no one expected that result, because Newcastle are quite good so far and they also have quality, but what happened was really disappointed. Previously, Newcastle rank was in sixth place, but with that lose now Newcastle stuck in seventh place in the standings for awhile. Also, Manchester United can take over Newcastle previous position, which are can win very well against Chelsea at Old Trafford. Now Eddie Howe must be able to restore the confidence of his squad, their attack line must be sharper in the next match vs Tottenham.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on December 08, 2023, 11:24:13 AM

Sometimes in games like this, Arsenal usually give very little in away games and their control is always crazy. Don’t be shocked if Aston Villa are reduced to crumbs and do most of the defending. Manchester City had a lot spaces to exploit but they were just flat.

Let's not forget that the coach of Aston Villa, unai Emery once coached Arsenal and as such may know a thing or two on what to expect and prepare his boys equally for them. The Gunners have played a total of 52 games since 1995 and have won 31 against Aston villa and would be looking to clinch another three points. Their away form is considered excellent but I'm fearful for tomorrow. Quite true they lead the league ATM but knowing them, they can choose to fail to deliver in this crucial games maybe due to over confidence.I know Arteta won't take the game lightly but you never can tell for his men.

I hope they maintain their reign by winning the game tomorrow else Liverpool will not hesitate to topple them as we know Crystal Palace is not really a challenge.

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Quote from: vennali on December 08, 2023, 04:27:08 AM

Spurs are the only team that have now dropped more points from winning positions than any other team in Europe's top seven divisions so far this season (16).
They are playing good attractive football but the number of injuries their players are having, it just doesn't translate well. They don't have an out and out Center Back that is fit to play. Could have been contesting for top 3 but are now hard stuck at 5th.

Tottenham are in dire straits right now. The team's performance at the start of the season surprised everyone. The team was at the top of the table for a long time. But they did not win in the last 5 matches. Lost 4 out of 5 matches and drew 1 match. Important players of the team cannot be in the squad due to injuries. This is why the team lost the truck. And now Tottenham's performance is very bad. The team may not even be in the top four of the table. In a few days, we will see the Tottenham team in the sixth or seventh place of the table.

Tottenham Hotspur have not really been in their best state right now and for losing the last game against West Ham United with a two goals to one (1:2) when it was speculated that Tottenham should have had the upper hand in the match the situation where many of the club fans have been in a sad mood due to the unexpected loses that have hit the club in the last 5 matches back which is somewhat unacceptable result to continue with for the club.
Abd at the moment those poor performances have made the spur to drop in point significantly which is something that was not expected from the way the club started the season with high spirits and motivation and winning most of their games.

Maye nobody could ever predict to see this result from West Ham and Tottenham because West Ham is not a strong team and on the other hand Tottenham is racing at the top of the premier league for the title with Arsenal and other teams but they lose the game with 2-1 result because of the comeback West Ham had in this match and now Tottenham is on the 56th place of the premier league with 27 points. It seems Tottenham is falling.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on December 08, 2023, 03:59:15 PM

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Newcastle were unlucky in that match and that was why they couldn't win the game. Everton needed the win but I was surprised at the performance of Everton as that game was like a life or death match for them.

The victory was so important for Everton and they were able to achieve it. What matters the most is that Newcastle is still very strong and I believe that they will win their next match.

Everton's victory over Newcastle was truly surprising, Newcastle's defense was destroyed in the final minutes of the match (Everton's 3 goals were scored in minutes 79 86 90+6). Everton in the last 5 matches has played quite well, they are getting further away from the relegation zone, while Newcastle continues to fall in ranking, it's a shame they failed to maintain their good performance last season.

Newcastle's next opponent is Tottenham, well this will be a match that I don't think will be too tough for Newcastle, Tottenham's performance is also very bad in the last 5 matches, they haven't won at all.

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There are a lot of exciting games lined up for the weekend most especially for Saturday when major clubs in the premier leagues will be having some of their big matches, notable among the lineup is Liverpool vs Crystal Palace which is scheduled for 13:00 and for sure many football fans and gamblers will have a quick figure going for Liverpool winning in the game, this is because of their current standing in the league, Liverpool has won most of the matches in this season and if you ask me I will say that crystal place will be a small club for them to face in this weekend and for that, I am ok with the odds allocation for Liverpool since there seems to be the sure club for the games.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on December 08, 2023, 04:26:20 PM

The problem is in the stability. We know that Newcastle always play well in this regard but sometimes there are some unexpected matches like what happened today where looking at the situation when Newcastle is still the favorite only to lose with a fairly heavy score and this clearly disturbs their situation.
They played well in these 2 seasons especially with the huge financial support from their new investors from the middle east but sometimes with unexpected situations like this especially for the problem of player stability with the tight schedule and with the many injured players in their camp then I think this will make a little change in terms of the performance they run.

Newcastle in weeks have been doing good, they've been surprisingly excellent in a couple of games that they've been underrated in. They're one team that didn't let the injury situation affect their performance, they were able to keep up with the games and ending them with victories. Even against PSG in both legs of the UCL group stage faceoff, they played in their highness and held PSG to ransom twice. It's just an amazing remark of their performance in football in the past weeks.

Days back they lost to Everton which wasn't entirely their fault. They're to face Hotspur this weekend, a team who's also had huge impact on the league table, they've got to put in extra effort. Any side has the chance to win and they'd make the game tough so the safest outcome would be a draw for both teams so the points will be shared.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 08, 2023, 04:29:53 PM

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Newcastle were unlucky in that match and that was why they couldn't win the game. Everton needed the win but I was surprised at the performance of Everton as that game was like a life or death match for them.

This isn't a matter of luck. But the Newcastle players were not able to execute their attacks well Not only that, they did control the game and the ball, but they only reached midfield, and were then hit by counter attacks several times. Meanwhile, with smaller statistics, Everton are actually more able to really attack towards the goal. And the effectiveness is quite good. The 3 - 0 result for Everton's victory and Newcastle's defeat was a bad experience for Newcastle..

There's no way we can say that a win that span to 3:0 is a luck. That is not a luck. A luck should be about 1:0 winning but anything more than that is not a luck again. It was a deserved winning. I wasn't able to view the match, so I was amazed at the result.

Meanwhile, Newcastle has been outstanding this recent times and we should not expect that they will continue in this great form till the end of the season. They will drop in the momentum for some matches and later take off again and this could be the down side of the club.

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Quote from: ginsan on December 08, 2023, 04:50:05 PM

Tottenham performed quite well at the start of the season but now they have lost their best form. Defeat after defeat made them eliminated from the top 4 teams and many fans even started to question the situation that occurred in the tottenham team because the consecutive defeats were beyond many people expectations.

Tottenham's performance has declined since several players suffered injuries, but initially they performed very convincingly even without Kane. But now they are really down. I think maybe they won't even get to the UEFA European League if it continues like this. His position is very risky with Man United.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on December 08, 2023, 03:59:15 PM

Newcastle were unlucky in that match and that was why they couldn't win the game. Everton needed the win but I was surprised at the performance of Everton as that game was like a life or death match for them.

The victory was so important for Everton and they were able to achieve it. What matters the most is that Newcastle is still very strong and I believe that they will win their next match.

Newcastle is still quite strong and should not be considered weak this season because Newcastle can still compete to achieve their best position this season and we can see this through the number of points they have with their rivals who are in the top four of the standings. Newcastle are not too far behind at the moment and Everton's victory is also part of Everton's own struggle to save themselves from the relegation zone this season and that is quite a natural thing to happen to Everton in that match.

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Quote from: baeva on December 08, 2023, 04:37:05 PM

In fact, something strange is going on with Tottenham, they have only 1 point in the last 5 matches, 4 defeats is a strong signal that something should be changed in the team and urgently, they started very well, even climbed to the first line. They have not lost everything yet and they can stay in the top five, but for this they have to try very hard and take control of the situation.

Tottenham performed quite well at the start of the season but now they have lost their best form. Defeat after defeat made them eliminated from the top 4 teams and many fans even started to question the situation that occurred in the tottenham team because the consecutive defeats were beyond many people expectations. Yes, of course Ange Postecoglou has to change Tottenham style of play for the better like they did at the start of the season. He must be able to rotate tactical schemes to be better in every match because if that fails then it will be difficult for them to return to the top 4.

The defeat against West Ham was quite painful for Tottenham because they were able to play well from the start of the half by scoring a goal in the 11th minute but in the end they were defeated with a score of 1-2. Tomorrow match Tottenham will face Newcastle United in front of their supporters. So, this match will be proof for Postecoglou to be able to bring victory to Tottenham because if he fails he will be the one the fans might blame.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on December 08, 2023, 03:59:15 PM

Newcastle were unlucky in that match and that was why they couldn't win the game. Everton needed the win but I was surprised at the performance of Everton as that game was like a life or death match for them.

The victory was so important for Everton and they were able to achieve it. What matters the most is that Newcastle is still very strong and I believe that they will win their next match.

Newcastle were a bit unlucky as you said but that will be like Everton didn’t deserve the win. They actually did deserve it because they were the better team just that Newcastle are well structured at the back that’s why it was hard for Everton to get pass them not until the double error from Trippier which they capitalized on. The two goals might come as a gift but with the kind of press they mounted Newcastle they deserve the goals and the three points. Everton this season has been hard done by the point deduction but with this fine form they will likely escape the drop, right now they are even out of the relegation zone and I except them to never drop down again.

As for Newcastle I don’t think they will win there next match easily as you pointed out because it is against Tottenham who have had a very rough past few weeks after starting the season very well that many even thought it would be there season. The game on Sunday will be a good game because both clubs had things in common like looking badly for a win to keep tap with the top 4 and also been heavily affected with injury.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 07, 2023, 05:07:49 PM

Wow what happened to Newcastle? I noticed that the quotes were suspicious and made a "safe" bet on Newcastle Double Chance. It was the first choice in a multi-bet of 8 events and it immediately burned out Undecided

Apparently, Tottenham will also kill many bettors today, since it’s already 94 minutes and the score is 2-1 in favor of West Ham. It turns out to be a continuous round of surprises and defeats for the favorites.

I was strongly considering to pick Newcastle in a parley and play it safe with a double chance but immediately trashed the idea because Newcastle have been largely inconsistent with their results. It was just a few weeks ago that Trippier got angry at a fan after that defeat to Bournemouth in November. But I was surprised to see Everton put 3 past them. With Nick pope out, Newcastle is bound to concede a lot more goals.

For Tottenham, no words. Since that Maddison injury, they've had shocking results to say the least. Losing at home to Aston Villa and West ham but we're real solid on Sunday against City.

Btw, Its Tottenham vs Newcastle on Sunday

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Quote from: skarais on December 08, 2023, 12:01:27 PM

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Yes, it's a terrible fall from the very top. Unfortunately, in the next round Tottenham plays with Newcastle and again one of the two good clubs (in the sense that I sympathize with them) experiencing problems will again lose points. And I wouldn’t even be surprised if they play a draw and thus it will be a negative result for both clubs. But oddly enough, this whole trio of losers (Tottenham, Newcastle, United) is not so far from the tournament favorite City.

Manchester City don't appear to be as strong as they were last season at the moment, certainly that was evident in the way they got the job done against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Aston Villa. Manchester City have suffered 3 defeats and 3 draws in 15 matches, so that is a statistic that puts them not far behind the other three losers (Newcastle, Tottenham and Manchester United).

Totteham is the worst team from the top 5, having suffered 4 defeats and 1 draw in the last 5 matches. Manchester City is the second worst team with only 1 win, 3 draws and 1 loss. Of course, these are conflicting conditions at the start of the season especially for Tottenham and Manchester City, but these two teams still have time to put things right before it's too late.

Funnily enough, bookmakers continue to rate City as overwhelming favorites in the title race. Their chance is estimated as 1.25, before this round the chances were as much as 1.1, but even now, after such a significant correction, this seems to me to be an overestimation of City. In the end, City has two direct competitors ahead - Arsenal and Liverpool. The likelihood that at least one club will be better is much higher than last season when only Arsenal was in the lead and City’s task was easier.

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Tottenham!
Managed to pull off a dramatic 3-3 draw against the defending Champions Manchester City away from home and then 4 days later lose to West Ham United at home. In the last 5 games, they have lost 4 and drawn one. Tottenham has lost 14 points from winning positions in a game since November 6. This is a fast sinking ship that needs a quick solution before it's too late.

Tottenham team has sunk already, have you notice how badly they have lost to their opponent after first scoring against their opponent in every match. They will be the first to score before the end of the second half they will begin to flop to concede goals. All of their lost match has ended in 1-2 at their lost.

In fact, something strange is going on with Tottenham, they have only 1 point in the last 5 matches, 4 defeats is a strong signal that something should be changed in the team and urgently, they started very well, even climbed to the first line. They have not lost everything yet and they can stay in the top five, but for this they have to try very hard and take control of the situation.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on December 08, 2023, 03:59:15 PM

Newcastle were unlucky in that match and that was why they couldn't win the game. Everton needed the win but I was surprised at the performance of Everton as that game was like a life or death match for them.

This isn't a matter of luck. But the Newcastle players were not able to execute their attacks well Not only that, they did control the game and the ball, but they only reached midfield, and were then hit by counter attacks several times. Meanwhile, with smaller statistics, Everton are actually more able to really attack towards the goal. And the effectiveness is quite good. The 3 - 0 result for Everton's victory and Newcastle's defeat was a bad experience for Newcastle..

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Quote from: Richbased on December 07, 2023, 05:20:30 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 07, 2023, 05:07:49 PM

Wow what happened to Newcastle? I noticed that the quotes were suspicious and made a "safe" bet on Newcastle Double Chance. It was the first choice in a multi-bet of 8 events and it immediately burned out Undecided

Apparently, Tottenham will also kill many bettors today, since it’s already 94 minutes and the score is 2-1 in favor of West Ham. It turns out to be a continuous round of surprises and defeats for the favorites.

Newcastle losing 3-0 to Everton is very astonishing like imagine Everton beating a club like Newcastle that has fought bigger teams and won only for them to meet a dying Everton and they defeated them, I just love England football due to all these kind of surprises from lesser teams winning big teams.

In Tottenham match against Westham I already knew that Tottenham will lose to Westham even when Tottenham was leading by one goal in first half I was still optimistic that they will lose due to their current drop in form and no new development for the club like injured players hasn't returned yet so it's still same old players that lack experience that's still playing their matches so it was expected that they won't do any better for now and Westham is very much in for recently so they used their energy well and they were able to achieve victory in this game.

That is the Premier League for you, you are not sure of winning a match until you play the match and win. A day is coming when an unexpected team in the Premier League will beat Aston Villa very well, just like what happened to Newcastle United at Everton home. If Tottenham continues in this way they will find themself fighting for relegation before their injured players will return.

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