Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 2491.

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Quote from: 3meek on November 02, 2023, 02:45:01 AM

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I'm not surprised Man U lost yesterday... Newcastle played with the main squad they play with all the time, but Man U played with players I don't know... Of course with that squad they would have lost to Newcastle without a doubt...

Both coaches tried to rotate players in this match, I saw both of them bench several main players throughout the match. Newcastle certainly has better performance than Manchester United, so it is natural that they are more motivated to win the match compared to Manchester United who still seem to be focused on improving the performance of their players.

Manchester United has lost a lot of things this season from its players, that includes performance and confidence. The players' morale is not good from one match to another, this is due to the many bad results they get. Not only in the EFL, Manchester United are also equally bad in the Premier League and Champions League. Of course it is very unfortunate, but we must not ignore that Newcastle is indeed in its best form to be a team that gives any team problems.

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Quote from: 3meek on November 02, 2023, 02:45:01 AM

I'm not surprised Man U lost yesterday... Newcastle played with the main squad they play with all the time, but Man U played with players I don't know... Of course with that squad they would have lost to Newcastle without a doubt...

Several players are not the ones that Ten Hag usually uses in the early minutes of the match, but the chances seem to remain the same where Manchester United will lose considering that Newcastle is currently not a team that will be easy for them to beat, it's just that this defeat makes them look worse and worse with so many the goals that went into their net plus they couldn't score a single goal.

In another match, Chelsea managed to win against Blackburn and this could be a competition where they can be a little more serious about getting the title, facing Blackburn Pochettino fielded all his core players so if they lose it will make them look even worse in the eyes of the fans

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 02, 2023, 03:02:08 AM

Two defeats at Old Trafford in two different competitions were very embarrassing for Manchester United, especially since the fans were already disappointed with this team. Previously Manchester United were humiliated by their neighbors Manchester United with a score of 0-3 and last night they lost again with the same score of 0-3 against Newcastle.

It is truly unforgivable the results achieved by the Red Devils so far and Erik Ten Hag always responds to these bad results with anomalous words that do not reflect his responsibility as a coach. A home defeat is clearly more embarrassing than an away defeat and I think the current Old Trafford is no longer as scary since the Sir Alex Ferguson era because the visiting team can always play freely and use Old Trafford as a training ground.

I agree with you that Old Trafford is no longer scary for visiting teams, due to a series of very embarrassing defeats recently. Ten Hag led United to break various bad records under his leadership as head coach. Club officials must take a firm stance to end the Dutch coach tenure, if they don't want to see the Red Devils end the season worse than before. I doubt their next match will be against Fulham, it seems like getting a draw is quite difficult.

Their latest defeat to Newcastle indicates that Ten Hag has failed in managing the club, whatever he puts forward will look like just an excuse. It looks like United this season will not be able to win any trophies, just like the fate of Chelsea which is being handled by Pochettino. Large expenditures on the transfer market have not had any impact on improving performance, maybe it is time for Ten Hag to leave.

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We cannot judge Ten Hag's performance based on this season but we must also look at his performance last season if there is a change this season with last season it means there is a problem within the team it is not difficult to detect it we can see the list of players on the injury list, so maybe that could be one of the reasons. After all, this league has a lot of matches left so who knows what changes lie ahead.

This season for ten Hag should have been indicative, since last season was the time of formation of the team, and in this season great results were expected from Manchester United, they were expected to be able to compete with City and Arsenal, but instead they are in the middle of the table. Yes, the players have many problems, these are internal problems of the team, the suspension of players of course affects the psychological state of everyone on the team, morale is in decline, but ten Hag will either fix it, or leave the team.

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Ten Hag is in real trouble in my opinion. He has spent a lot of money but it’s the same old story for Man Utd. What happened to that once great club. Ferguson knew when to get out.

The fans constantly blame the owners but every manager they’ve had since Ferguson has been given more than enough money for players. If this current form continues Ten Hag will be unemployed before Christmas.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 01, 2023, 06:29:39 PM

Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

Manchester United has been performing badly recently so before the match started we predicted that maybe Manchester United will lose this match but we were all positive about Arsenal. Arsenal started this season well and we expected Arsenal to do well but in the last match Arsenal did not do well at all. Against West Ham, Arsenal managed just one goal against three goals. It's not that Arsenal played badly but they took too much to pass the ball between themselves and that's why they didn't score in the end. Although West Ham had relatively little possession, they capitalized on their chances and managed to score. However, before the start of the match, Arsenal were favorites in this match.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on November 02, 2023, 03:16:14 AM

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I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

What are you talking about, what new players should ten Hag welcome to Manchester United? He created this team, he brought these guys, but his plan did not work, the results are so bad that he will no longer receive money from management for further transfers. Most likely, Manchester United will buy new players, but this will be done by another coach, because such a legendary club cannot tolerate such poor results.

We cannot judge Ten Hag's performance based on this season but we must also look at his performance last season if there is a change this season with last season it means there is a problem within the team it is not difficult to detect it we can see the list of players on the injury list, so maybe that could be one of the reasons. After all, this league has a lot of matches left so who knows what changes lie ahead.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 02, 2023, 02:24:57 AM

I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

What are you talking about, what new players should ten Hag welcome to Manchester United? He created this team, he brought these guys, but his plan did not work, the results are so bad that he will no longer receive money from management for further transfers. Most likely, Manchester United will buy new players, but this will be done by another coach, because such a legendary club cannot tolerate such poor results.

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Two defeats at Old Trafford in two different competitions were very embarrassing for Manchester United, especially since the fans were already disappointed with this team. Previously Manchester United were humiliated by their neighbors Manchester United with a score of 0-3 and last night they lost again with the same score of 0-3 against Newcastle.

It is truly unforgivable the results achieved by the Red Devils so far and Erik Ten Hag always responds to these bad results with anomalous words that do not reflect his responsibility as a coach. A home defeat is clearly more embarrassing than an away defeat and I think the current Old Trafford is no longer as scary since the Sir Alex Ferguson era because the visiting team can always play freely and use Old Trafford as a training ground.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on November 02, 2023, 01:14:24 AM

It's kind of unfortunate "West Ham" actually succeeded in winning the game last night instead the gunners who I had in mind, as a result of "owned goal" scored at 16 minutes into the game by "Ben White" which I'm sure must be the contributing factor weakening the Arsenal players, and likewise strengthening the entire West Ham team to maintain that hedge they have got to the end with an extra 2 more goals. Likewise, same goes to Man-United who lost their game last night to Newcastle with 3 goals to 0, likewise the same way they lost to Newcastle 6 months ago this year. And as such, I think Man-United deserves a better coach, because Erik ten Hag is literary of no use anymore with all these series of lost game.

I think the Gunner didn't prioritize the carabao so they appearing weak against westham looks intentional to me, maybe it could be a strategy to keep their players still fit and strong for the premier league games this week, that way they will be less fatigue prone.

Westham isn't good enough more over the Gunners had chances and could easily have won, but then it wasn't a pretty idea just crashing out of the carabao cup just like that. Manchester united just needs to invest in getting new and better players who would replace the nonchalant and dull players especially with the defense, I still believe Ten hag can succeed in Manchester united because he did last season and qualified for the UCL so he need to get players he can work with and he will see better results than what he is getting now.

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Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

I'm not surprised Man U lost yesterday... Newcastle played with the main squad they play with all the time, but Man U played with players I don't know... Of course with that squad they would have lost to Newcastle without a doubt...

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Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 01, 2023, 06:29:39 PM

Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

The case of Arsenal is really different from that of Manchester United. In Manchester United, since they don't have a good situation in the Premier League, maybe by winning the EFL Ten Hag could get out of the pressure and this tournament could help the team. But for Arteta and his team, EFL was not the priority at all and they wanted to put more energy into the other important tournament in this season.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on November 02, 2023, 12:38:26 AM

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

You mean they deserve to lose? Grin

but like seriously and to be very honest, manchester united team quality has become so low and degraded to nothing. The defense entirely was a disaster, the attack was very poor, a single counter attack wasn't introduced in the full 90 minutes of the game, what a calamity!

However, Erik alone is not the problem here, some players are not given their all. Do you think if Man United sack Erik and appoint another manager, the players will bounce back? I don't think so. Those players will still do the same thing. Manchester united has some lazy players at the moment. United have appointed 5 past managers and the story is till the same, both the culture and tradition of the club is very poor. Just imagine losing back to back at Old Trafford.

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Quote from: len01 on November 01, 2023, 08:32:32 AM

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I think Arsenal's victory against Sheffield is not enough to be used as a reference because the levels of Sheffield and Newcastle are very different. Sheffield is a promoted team this season and currently they are in the relegation zone and even without Gabriel Jesus, of course Arsenal will still win whatever the score. But when facing Newcastle, whose level since last season has been quite equal, it is not an easy matter for Arsenal to overcome.

These two teams both have good coaches, namely Mikel Arteta and Eddie Howie, of course we will wait for these two coaches to clash with each other's strategies on the field. Apart from all that, currently Newcastle has lost one of its key players, namely Sandro Tonali, who is banned from playing for a very long time due to a previous case and Arsenal also lost their spearhead Gabriel Jesus due to injury, so this will be a very tense three-point battle.

It is a little difficult to predict the match between Newcastle who will host Arsenal while these two teams have almost the same performance and looking at the odds given by the bookie, there is only a slight difference between Newcastle with odds @2.90 while Arsenal @2.50
betting on the match will be very profitable if we have the right prediction because both teams get pretty good odds but in my opinion from the temporary prediction Arsenal have a slightly bigger chance of winning but still I will consider a draw.

In fact, if you see very large odds like this, the right choice is to bet on a handicap to reduce the risk. We know that it is very difficult to predict when the team is at the same level and has other interesting records which are even quite difficult to decide on in betting. Maybe for sure Arsenal will still win this match, but the unexpected outcome of a draw will also be a question mark later. It's better if we don't need to be careless and tempted by such big odds. So in my opinion the safe and correct step is to bet on handicap (0.5) with odds @1.42 for Arsenal's advantage but if you are not satisfied with these odds then you can take a BTTS bet with odds @1.73 which will definitely happen.

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Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

In most cases there wouldn't be any special uproar about the loss against Newcastle United because that game was of less importance, but the situation for Manchester United is quite special these days. Every failure is seen from a different, more critical perspective while every success is more of standard expectation that Manchester United is supposed to meet.

I haven't been following the first line up that Newcastle United usually plays with, but as far as I can see they also substituted a couple of players to allow some others to get some time off. This would mean that Manchester United lost this game against a weakened Newcastle team, which is further embarrassing than it would be otherwise. But 0-3 is 0-3, there are really no extenuating circumstances that make this defeat less considerable.

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It's 29 minutes already now into the match with West Ham 1 vs Arsenal 0 currently right now as I write this, with an own goal scored by Ben White of Arsenal. So what have you guys to say about this match, do you think West Ham can maintain successfully winning this match, or do you think they will surely be overthrown by the almighty Gunners as the match process further. Because from my own observation, forgetting that the first goal was an "own goal", I still believe that Arsenal have a better chance of coming out victorious in this game whatsoever the case may be, as this match is likely to end either draw or Arsenal winning this game, as they have always worn West Ham for the past 3 previous matches.

So what have you guys have to say about this??

The Arsenal players on the pitch are not the regular premier league players, but they have still been able to control the game, I trust that the goals will follow in a matter of time because West Ham have given the ball away a lot especially in their own half. If West ham do not try to secure this their lead by scoring another goal, it looks like it will be lost. For Manchester United, they should be able to win Newcastle. Chelsea are already ahead, their formation look very much stronger with Reece James and Enzo back.

It's kind of unfortunate "West Ham" actually succeeded in winning the game last night instead the gunners who I had in mind, as a result of "owned goal" scored at 16 minutes into the game by "Ben White" which I'm sure must be the contributing factor weakening the Arsenal players, and likewise strengthening the entire West Ham team to maintain that hedge they have got to the end with an extra 2 more goals. Likewise, same goes to Man-United who lost their game last night to Newcastle with 3 goals to 0, likewise the same way they lost to Newcastle 6 months ago this year. And as such, I think Man-United deserves a better coach, because Erik ten Hag is literary of no use anymore with all these series of lost game.

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Quote from: Despairo on November 01, 2023, 11:13:34 PM

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I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.

Aston Villa and West Ham sometime can give a surprise.

These clubs were performing perfectly this season. I think that aston villa is much more aggressive compared with villa which was always using low blocks. Arsenal faces difficulty in breaking the low blocks of westham coz this club is very consistent in defending and counter attack.

Quote from: Despairo on November 01, 2023, 11:13:34 PM

Arsenal wasn't perform bad, but they're just unlucky. However this is not a problem because it's only a big mac trophy, they have another focus to win Champions and Premier League.

I don't even think being conceded three goals against westham was unlucky. Arsenal was not able to finding the weakspot of westham. Westham performing so discipline during the match, the low block strategy is totally effective in preventing arsenal in scoring against westham.

Quote from: Despairo on November 01, 2023, 11:13:34 PM

The winner of this big mac trophy are either West Ham, Liverpool or Newcastle, there's no other club can compete them.

You forgot chelsea which is going to face newcastle soon. Cheesy

Why don't you count it? I would rather than pick westham but liverpool looks like the scary one.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 02, 2023, 12:31:08 AM

Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

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Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

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