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Quote from: harapan on July 11, 2023, 06:00:05 PM

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I am convinced that a coach can't responsible for everything. If thre are all these multi-millionaires and suddenly they don't know how to play anymore and lose one game after another, it is of course bad if the coach is no authority and can't get into the heads of the players, but blaming him alone or saying that didn't perform well is not the full answer to the question why Chelsea played like trash. The players should carry much more responsibility in those situations.

When a team starts losing one game after the other, the first person I look at is the coach. If this is a big team that has spent money on players and we know that these players are not very bad then we have to blame the coach. It is the job of the coach to make sure players play well. It is their job to make sure these players play the way he wants.

I'm not putting all the blame on the coach, didn't get me wrong, but the responsibility of that team lies in the coach. In the case of Chelsea, I'm very certain a bad coach was their problem. Chelsea couldn't win teams in the relegation zone and below mid-table teams, that tells you a lit. They also couldn't create enough chances (I know they didn't have the right midfield ) and they couldn't score goals.
Despite not having good goal scores and creators on their team last season, they should have done way better if they had a better coach.

What do you think about Jurgen Klopp when he was 26 points behind Arsenal London? Does that make him a bad coach with the players he has at hand?

Not let me clear here that we agree on Potter being the wrong coach for Chelsea. I think everyone agrees and there is little to no doubt that he wasn't the right choice. But in some situations sometimes even a great coach can't change it all. In the case of Klopp it was a question of time and they kind of recovered, even though not fully and only made it into the Europa League. But Chelsea was so bad that I think players should also take responsibility and take some of the blame. Even when my coach is bad I can still try to fight on the field. But they often didn't.

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Quote from: asriloni on July 12, 2023, 12:44:09 AM

Osimhen is the same like kane. Osimhen is still owning bigger potential compared with kane as he is still far younger compared with kane. Bayern has sent another offer for kane. The second offer was €10 millions more compared with the first offer, which was around €70 millions + bonuses.
Bayern shall take osimhen rather than kane if the price of him gonna be the same but i know that's impossible caused by napoli put €180 millions wall for osimhen.

The chance to get kane is bigger compared with osimhen. Bayern may ready to increase its budget even higher compared with the last offer.

I doubt that someone will give 180 million for Osimhen. Bayern, with their pragmatism, of course, wants to get a cheaper player, but Tottenham won't want to let go of their leader so cheaply either. Bayern offered 10 million more, but it's still not enough for a player like Kane, it seems to me that less than 100 million, Tottenham will not agree to a transfer. But maybe you are right that in this case, Bayern should have bought a younger player like Osimhen, he is younger, faster and perhaps more promising.

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Quote from: armanda90 on July 12, 2023, 02:06:25 AM

Chelsea have many striker right now after signing Nkunku and Nicolas Jackson seems enough for Pochettino build squad for next season exactly Lukaku still Chelsea's player. Victor Osimhen won't play for Chelsea because he can't play in Champion League due Chelsea is not Primer League teams will participate there after finish on 12th standings place. How come Chelsea brave announce interest to sign Mbappe? this player actually want to win Champion League tittle and impossible he want join with teams not play in Champion League next season, its not relation with Mbappe contract over next year or he will leave PSG in this summer. I think difficult for Chelsea signing many potential player because they not get participants in Champion League next season.

It's funny how people are still demanding Chelsea for looking a new striker when they currently have 11 strikers, take a look with Manchester City where they only have 6 strikers. People need to check how many players in the squad before hoping the team to sign new players. It seems we will see Chelsea try to sell their players because they can't just keep signing new player and pay their salary.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 12, 2023, 01:30:02 AM

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The chance to get kane is bigger compared with osimhen. Bayern may ready to increase its budget even higher compared with the last offer.

Harry Kane has said he doesn't want to stay in Tottenham Hotspur this summer. I think he realize that age is no longer in his side about clocking 30 years with no trophy. His contract should official expire by next year but he wants to make a fast move either to Bayern or Manchester city. I Daniel Levy should allow him to go , he has given part of his youth playing days to Tottenham so going to a club where he can celebrate trophy with team mates is a good idea for him.

Can't imagine how it would be if Kane really left for Manchester City and partnered with Haaland, so I think it's clear that it will be a very good line of attack and always a serious threat to opposing teams. But regarding Tottenham's difficulty in letting go of Kane's departure, a case like this is like a coercion. I think such an attitude cannot be justified at all. So yes, Tottenham should be able to accept the decision that Kane wants to leave, because it will be useless if Tottenham continues to force Kane to play at Tottenham then it will have a negative impact on his performance.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on July 11, 2023, 11:49:35 PM

Chelsea really need a potential strikers in this summer, if their president will release the money for the manager to bring in victor Osimhen and Mbappe and they can make Chelsea to dominate in all competition next season. I think, Victor Osimhen will like to try premier league next season, if Chelsea manager can work hard to touch all the areas he need to touch for Napoli manager to release him for Chelsea because all Chelsea fans are expecting good performance from Chelsea next season. If Chelsea manager can also struggle to add Mbappe in this summer, and PSG manager is willing to release him to any team that is willing to agree for their demand because Mbappe contract will expire soon from PSG.

Chelsea have many striker right now after signing Nkunku and Nicolas Jackson seems enough for Pochettino build squad for next season exactly Lukaku still Chelsea's player. Victor Osimhen won't play for Chelsea because he can't play in Champion League due Chelsea is not Primer League teams will participate there after finish on 12th standings place. How come Chelsea brave announce interest to sign Mbappe? this player actually want to win Champion League tittle and impossible he want join with teams not play in Champion League next season, its not relation with Mbappe contract over next year or he will leave PSG in this summer. I think difficult for Chelsea signing many potential player because they not get participants in Champion League next season.

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Quote from: asriloni on July 12, 2023, 12:44:09 AM

The chance to get kane is bigger compared with osimhen. Bayern may ready to increase its budget even higher compared with the last offer.

Harry Kane has said he doesn't want to stay in Tottenham Hotspur this summer. I think he realize that age is no longer in his side about clocking 30 years with no trophy. His contract should official expire by next year but he wants to make a fast move either to Bayern or Manchester city. I think Daniel Levy should allow him to go , he has given part of his youth playing days to Tottenham so going to a club where he can celebrate trophy with team mates is a good idea for him.

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Kane has been one of the stories of the transfer window, with his future shrouded in uncertainty throughout the summer so far. Daniel Levy looks like he’s unwilling to let him leave, because Kane has just one year left on his deal, and as such Levy's bargaining power over a price weakens with every passing month. Bayern Munich have being the front runner and I’m not sure Bayern Munich would be willing to go much higher than their current bid, and although they are prepared to wait 12 months there is also the hope that Levy might lower his asking price should no further bids be forthcoming.

Tottenham may not release Harry Kane until the contract expires. In this case, the English forward may fail to make his bright career more colorful. He had a big chance in front of him but maybe he is going to miss it because of the club. Bayern Munich are showing a lot of interest in Harry Kane but Tottenham will not let Harry Kane out of their team for less than 100 million euros but according to the current market value, Bayern Munich will not risk buying Harry Kane for 100 million euros. Tottenham's contract with Harry Kane expires after a year but Bayern Munich will not wait for Harry Kane this year. Because Bayern Munich need a main striker at the moment, if they can't sign Harry Kane, they will sign another striker. In that case, it would appear that no good club is showing interest in taking Harry Kane after a year.

there is a bit of a mistake here that if waiting until Harry Kane's contract until next year is the same as getting it for free because if the contract runs out next year for this year Tottenham should have sold him without having to set a high price. because if the price is too high and no team wants to control it I think it will be a loss for Tottenham, except for the saudi arabia team.
maybe some teams like Bayern Munic and several other teams eyeing Harry Kane will only wait until Tottenham lowers Harry Kane's contract price.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on July 11, 2023, 11:49:35 PM

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I hope Osimhen doesn’t go to Chelsea. They have spent a lot of money on really average players but Osimhen is the real deal imo. He’s the classic number 9, he’d really suit the Premier League. He’s got physicality, pace, a great shot. So yeah, I really hope Chelsea don’t manage to sign him.

Chelsea really need a potential strikers in this summer, if their president will release the money for the manager to bring in victor Osimhen and Mbappe and they can make Chelsea to dominate in all competition next season. I think, Victor Osimhen will like to try premier league next season, if Chelsea manager can work hard to touch all the areas he need to touch for Napoli manager to release him for Chelsea because all Chelsea fans are expecting good performance from Chelsea next season. If Chelsea manager can also struggle to add Mbappe in this summer, and PSG manager is willing to release him to any team that is willing to agree for their demand because Mbappe contract will expire soon from PSG.

I don't think that Chelsea will struggle to bring in Victor Osimhen or Kylian Mbappe in the current transfer season, as the previous season they spent over €600m signing players who weren't performing well to push Chelsea so Chelsea just become an average team, and that is already quite detrimental to Chelsea's finances, especially this season they are only playing in domestic competitions so it will also be a reluctance for both players to choose Chelsea, I mean why should they choose Chelsea while a better team also made an offer to both players.

If Chelsea insists on bringing in players at high prices they could be in the spotlight of FFP because players with high transfer fees must also be prepared to pay high salaries. However, they do need a sharp striker but not at an exorbitant price, therefore Pochettino must search a potential striker without spending money like if they wanted to bring in Mbappe or Osimhen, a reliable manager will be able to see the opportunity well.

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Kane has been one of the stories of the transfer window, with his future shrouded in uncertainty throughout the summer so far. Daniel Levy looks like he’s unwilling to let him leave, because Kane has just one year left on his deal, and as such Levy's bargaining power over a price weakens with every passing month. Bayern Munich have being the front runner and I’m not sure Bayern Munich would be willing to go much higher than their current bid, and although they are prepared to wait 12 months there is also the hope that Levy might lower his asking price should no further bids be forthcoming.

Tottenham may not release Harry Kane until the contract expires. In this case, the English forward may fail to make his bright career more colorful. He had a big chance in front of him but maybe he is going to miss it because of the club. Bayern Munich are showing a lot of interest in Harry Kane but Tottenham will not let Harry Kane out of their team for less than 100 million euros but according to the current market value, Bayern Munich will not risk buying Harry Kane for 100 million euros. Tottenham's contract with Harry Kane expires after a year but Bayern Munich will not wait for Harry Kane this year. Because Bayern Munich need a main striker at the moment, if they can't sign Harry Kane, they will sign another striker. In that case, it would appear that no good club is showing interest in taking Harry Kane after a year.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on July 11, 2023, 02:42:22 PM

Osimhen is an important target for Bayern but I think Harry Kane is more important. If they can come to an agreement, they can have great success with Bayern Munich, but we know that Bayern rejected the first offer. I don't know if Bayern will persist and raise the offer, but they should definitely take it.

Osimhen is the same like kane. Osimhen is still owning bigger potential compared with kane as he is still far younger compared with kane. Bayern has sent another offer for kane. The second offer was €10 millions more compared with the first offer, which was around €70 millions + bonuses.
Bayern shall take osimhen rather than kane if the price of him gonna be the same but i know that's impossible caused by napoli put €180 millions wall for osimhen.

The chance to get kane is bigger compared with osimhen. Bayern may ready to increase its budget even higher compared with the last offer.

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Kane has been one of the stories of the transfer window, with his future shrouded in uncertainty throughout the summer so far. Daniel Levy looks like he’s unwilling to let him leave, because Kane has just one year left on his deal, and as such Levy's bargaining power over a price weakens with every passing month. Bayern Munich have being the front runner and I’m not sure Bayern Munich would be willing to go much higher than their current bid, and although they are prepared to wait 12 months there is also the hope that Levy might lower his asking price should no further bids be forthcoming.

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I'm not going to talk about their performance before the start of this season because we know Chelsea the last season had many famous and expensive players also they were in a situation where I thought they are on top of the table because of the bad performance of their coach the team lost motivation for the rest of the season and that's why Chelsea didn't get anything.

But none knows about the future of Chelsea in the next season with Pochettino.

Last season was a failure for Chelsea in every way. They spend a lot of money but fail in achieving it. And this season they are trying to fix it, they hope that Pochettino can really manage and get Chelsea back to their prime and rise from the slump last season. They have taken several steps, starting from changing coaches and buying several new players who are considered quite talented. And still hunting for several players to strengthen the squad on all fronts. However, will they experience the same problems later when the club is playing? This will be Pochettino's tough task later.

Right now, the best thing is just forgotten about past and think about future and Pochettino is doing right thing even too much pressure and hype as well but most chances all will be settled after the start of next season right now any prediction is not going to be perfect with his track record is also good, and he understands chemistry of players and English Premier League as well Chelsea already having few good numbers of top quality players which can give their best and things can turn into positive as well even they have worst end of last season but now many changes are happening which can bring positive changes and change of atmosphere is also good for the club hopefully now Todd Boehly will also support his new manager and will not interfere about things which he has done in the past.

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I hope Osimhen doesn’t go to Chelsea. They have spent a lot of money on really average players but Osimhen is the real deal imo. He’s the classic number 9, he’d really suit the Premier League. He’s got physicality, pace, a great shot. So yeah, I really hope Chelsea don’t manage to sign him.

Chelsea really need a potential strikers in this summer, if their president will release the money for the manager to bring in victor Osimhen and Mbappe and they can make Chelsea to dominate in all competition next season. I think, Victor Osimhen will like to try premier league next season, if Chelsea manager can work hard to touch all the areas he need to touch for Napoli manager to release him for Chelsea because all Chelsea fans are expecting good performance from Chelsea next season. If Chelsea manager can also struggle to add Mbappe in this summer, and PSG manager is willing to release him to any team that is willing to agree for their demand because Mbappe contract will expire soon from PSG.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on July 11, 2023, 10:20:29 PM

Currently as development is going most chances we will have Harry Kane into Bayern Munich instead of Victor Osimhen because Tottenham is surely now feeling it's good time for them to have huge amount for the sell of Harry Kane instead of allowing him as free agent in next summer with this all Bayern Munich is already increased their bid which is showing things are going good for the all.

Most chances if we have any move for the Osimhen in this season then he will be joined PSG instead of any club with if this will not happen then surely he will be moved next year which is mostly likely happen for Chelsea which is his dream club in this season things are not looking good with Chelsea is already out of UEFA competitions, so he will not try to move immediately.

Bayern Munich is keeping a watch on the English international, expecting Tottenham Hotspur may lower their bids, but that does not appear to be the case, the bavarians got their offers turned down by Spurs. Victor Osimhen is a talented forward, but Napoli paid a premium price for him in the summer window. He's even more pricey than Harry Kane for such high standards. Victor Osimhen's aim has always been to play in the English Premier League. He has been connected with Chelsea, but he would not want to start over there when he is getting the recognition he deserves here.

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Quote from: kro55 on July 11, 2023, 06:13:07 PM

Stabilizing Chelsea's squad is a difficult task for Pochettino. We still don't know if he will succeed. Chelsea's last season was very bad. This team was failing to win even against weaker teams. The mutual understanding between the players was not good. Pochettino's main task next season will be to improve the understanding between the players. If he can do that, Chelsea are likely to get a better performance. But I don't think Pochettino should be trusted too much. He did not succeed with the PSG team despite having a very strong squad.

yes I also doubt Pochettino who is currently with Chelsea, my doubts lie in their transfer market this time by looking at the comparison of the players they released and they bought this time. Worse, they left almost all of their main squad last season and only a few names remained. Mason Mount, Loftus Cheek, Cristian Pulisic, Kai Havertz, Mate Kovacic, Edouard Mendy, Kante and their captain Cesar Azpilicueta have all been released and there are still a few players left. Then look at the players they have brought in, like Christopher Nkunku and Nicolas Jackson, of course they are not comparable to the players they have released, both in quality and mentality. I think with transfer management steps like this Chelsea will likely become a mid-table filler club in the EPL standings next season.

Pochettino cannot do much with such a squad composition next season, on the other hand he is also not the typical coach like Ancelotti and Mourinho who are highly respected by their players. My prediction is that they will no longer be the favorites to challenge for the EPL championship next season, such as Man City, Arsenal and Man Utnited.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on July 11, 2023, 02:42:22 PM

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I actually think the opposite of what you said, because if for example Osimhen could move to another team this summer. Of course the Premier League is also more suitable for him, even if not for the Chelsea team, which was bad last season, but Osimhen could consider it if there is a big team in the Premier League with not bad performance last season who wants to get him this summer. However, if Napoli themselves have confirmed that Osimhen and other young players will not leave Napoli this summer, of course Bayern Munich themselves should not expect to get Osimhen this summer.

Osimhen is an important target for Bayern but I think Harry Kane is more important. If they can come to an agreement, they can have great success with Bayern Munich, but we know that Bayern rejected the first offer. I don't know if Bayern will persist and raise the offer, but they should definitely take it.

Currently as development is going most chances we will have Harry Kane into Bayern Munich instead of Victor Osimhen because Tottenham is surely now feeling it's good time for them to have huge amount for the sell of Harry Kane instead of allowing him as free agent in next summer with this all Bayern Munich is already increased their bid which is showing things are going good for the all.

Most chances if we have any move for the Osimhen in this season then he will be joined PSG instead of any club with if this will not happen then surely he will be moved next year which is mostly likely happen for Chelsea which is his dream club in this season things are not looking good with Chelsea is already out of UEFA competitions, so he will not try to move immediately.

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Quote from: bangjoe on July 11, 2023, 08:38:49 PM

Pochettino has a pretty good history in his work to become a coach like in Tottenham who managed to go to the final match even though he was defeated by Liverpool and the best he could achieve was with PSG won France Cup and the French Super Cup. And today he is with Chelsea, maybe many people will hope for him to contribute to an increase in Chelsea's squad that Chelsea has been very down under Lampard's leadership.
There are many important players who leave Chelsea such as Kai Havertz and Mateo Kovacic and the others, it is a very difficult position that Chelsea has today, truly regretted the new coach comes to fix but many players leave, it is a burden will reconstruct Chelsea by Pochettino, but according to this it takes longer to revitalize and build good emotional relationships with new players who have different characters and potentials.
But if he is good at adapting and recognizing the ability of his students, I think there is no need to take much time to make changes to the squad.

Winning Ligue 1 is not best achievement for Pochettino because all manager always winning Ligue 1 tittle with PSG because there are not compete league, but Pochettino success managed Tottenham Hotspur until final stage in Champion League but difficult when becoming PSG head coach managed well in Champion League. Pochettino is not easy manage well Chelsea this season although have competition with domestic league after failure play in Champion League or Europe League due many important players sell.

I think Pochettino have working hardest how to make Chelsea back to the top fourth standings position exactly he need adapt with some position filled by new players without know how difficult and hardest with Primer League competition. Some mistake made by Chelsea with their recruitment not players know and ever play in Primer League and doesn't need time for adapting.

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Pochettino is new in Chelsea and he is just trying to build new squad in Chelsea, and we know Pochettino to be a talent coach from the record he had already, so let’s just hope chelsea Will perform better next season, Pochettino adapting to Chelsea and the new players adapting to Chelsea won’t really be easy. But let’s just hope Chelsea Will perform better next season, everyone’s hope is already high on Pochettino, they believe even if can’t win the league for Chelsea, then Chelsea is going end the season in a better position, not like the position which they ended just concluded season. Chelsea performed poorly and I was even ashamed of them.

There is no doubt that Chelsea has undergone a big shift from last season to this one one that has been characterised by the departure of numerous important players who were instrumental in their Champions League success. Many of these championship winning players have left the club in search of fresh opportunities elsewhere causing a noticeable outflow. A bright spot appears in the midst of these adjustments though in the form of a new coach who instills hope. With a talented group of young players who will have a chance to shine throughout the preseason this coach has the possibility to revitalise Chelsea. The club will need to spend a lot of time practising as they get ready for their crucial early season Premier League games. This new look Chelsea has the ability to usher in a new era of success under its creative coach thanks to a combination of seasoned holdovers and exciting youngsters.

Pochettino has a pretty good history in his work to become a coach like in Tottenham who managed to go to the final match even though he was defeated by Liverpool and the best he could achieve was with PSG won France Cup and the French Super Cup. And today he is with Chelsea, maybe many people will hope for him to contribute to an increase in Chelsea's squad that Chelsea has been very down under Lampard's leadership.
There are many important players who leave Chelsea such as Kai Havertz and Mateo Kovacic and the others, it is a very difficult position that Chelsea has today, truly regretted the new coach comes to fix but many players leave, it is a burden will reconstruct Chelsea by Pochettino, but according to this it takes longer to revitalize and build good emotional relationships with new players who have different characters and potentials.
But if he is good at adapting and recognizing the ability of his students, I think there is no need to take much time to make changes to the squad.

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Quote from: Stable090 on July 11, 2023, 04:32:49 PM

Pochettino is new in Chelsea and he is just trying to build new squad in Chelsea, and we know Pochettino to be a talent coach from the record he had already, so let’s just hope chelsea Will perform better next season, Pochettino adapting to Chelsea and the new players adapting to Chelsea won’t really be easy. But let’s just hope Chelsea Will perform better next season, everyone’s hope is already high on Pochettino, they believe even if can’t win the league for Chelsea, then Chelsea is going end the season in a better position, not like the position which they ended just concluded season. Chelsea performed poorly and I was even ashamed of them.

There is no doubt that Chelsea has undergone a big shift from last season to this one one that has been characterised by the departure of numerous important players who were instrumental in their Champions League success. Many of these championship winning players have left the club in search of fresh opportunities elsewhere causing a noticeable outflow. A bright spot appears in the midst of these adjustments though in the form of a new coach who instills hope. With a talented group of young players who will have a chance to shine throughout the preseason this coach has the possibility to revitalise Chelsea. The club will need to spend a lot of time practising as they get ready for their crucial early season Premier League games. This new look Chelsea has the ability to usher in a new era of success under its creative coach thanks to a combination of seasoned holdovers and exciting youngsters.

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Quote from: Stable090 on July 11, 2023, 04:32:49 PM

Pochettino is new in Chelsea and he is just trying to build new squad in Chelsea, and we know Pochettino to be a talent coach from the record he had already, so let’s just hope chelsea Will perform better next season, Pochettino adapting to Chelsea and the new players adapting to Chelsea won’t really be easy. But let’s just hope Chelsea Will perform better next season, everyone’s hope is already high on Pochettino, they believe even if can’t win the league for Chelsea, then Chelsea is going end the season in a better position, not like the position which they ended just concluded season. Chelsea performed poorly and I was even ashamed of them.

Im feeling doubt with him. I meant i don't distrust pochettino but in my understanding if pochettino never had good days in EPL. I won't count the achievement of him in french league caused by it's a farmer league. French league is actually different compared with EPL.
Pochettino tries to rebuild the club now but instead of focusing into the midfielder but he is putting all of focus into the striker. Chelsea was also losing its defender. People have been expecting that Cucurela might also go to its rival..
Totenham wants cucurela as a new defender to replace perisic. I don't know what kind of scenario being prepared by pochettino but this guy shall try to take a look at the potencial from the player.
Chelsea is linked into the so many forwards. Dybala, Vlahovic even a striker from ajax. It's quite confusing to see why this club is always targeting striker instead of put its focus to rebuild mid and defender.
Club needs to stop buying striker. Chelsea has not yet sold aubameyang.

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