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Quote from: borovichok on June 10, 2023, 09:21:58 PM

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The deed has always been done, I'm looking forward to next season, and it's ultimately up to the new manager to turn things around for the team.

The manager is still limited as he can only work with what was given to him. The new owners will still play a major role in turning things around for the club and Pochettino can only hope he gets the pieces that he really wants. The question here is if top players are willing to join an organization that's still in shambles.

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It was a terrible season for Tottenham team they were not able to qualify for any european competition and their performance kinda sucked their last few seasons were one of their best, they even managed to make it to the champions league finals, it will be tough for them to repeat such similar feats and i think this will be harry kane last season at tottenham i think he really should move on if he want to win some trophies in his carere.

I personally really don't remember when Tottenham were able to reach the Champions League final but apparently, that achievement happened in the 2018/2019 season. Because as far as I remember about Tottenham, that Tottenham is a big club in the Premier League that doesn't have consistent results, so I can easily forget Tottenham's achievements in the previous few seasons. But yes, this season Tottenham has really messed up I think, because Tottenham only finished in 8th position and of course, Tottenham won't get a ticket for next season's European competition.

Tottenham is just in a bad situation right now. It is not impossible for them to come out of this situation. But it will certainly take time. A lot of players are going to leave Tottenham by the time they are trying to fix the problems that they have. Tottenham had a good squad to work with most of the time. But they have failed to actually achieve a good result even when they had a good squad.

With Harry Kane certainly leaving the club it is going to be a lot harder for them to achieve whatever they want to do. A big reason why players are not going to be interested to play for Tottenham they are not participating in the European competition.

Tottenham is really need Kane because since 2014 he was can able to playing consistent as Tottenham forward player so i couldn't imagine what will happen to Tottenham for next season if Kane decide to leave this team because lets be honest there was no forward players who has equal quality to Kane and indeed they still have Son Heung-min but this player has lost his touch and last season Son only scores 10 goals at premier league

Besides possibly will lost Kane Tottenham also will lost some of players such as their main goalkeeper Hugo Lloris who want to retired this year and Lucas Moura because of contract expired so the current manager Ange Postecoglou have a very difficult task to make Tottenham to performing well and with all of their current issues i am a bit doubt Tottenham can able to compete for top 4 next season

I can't find any current Tottenham team. Whatever you say, Tottenham are performing worse than ever. With the type of players they have in this team, the team needs to perform extremely well in the seasons but they are currently failing time and again.

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It was a terrible season for Tottenham team they were not able to qualify for any european competition and their performance kinda sucked their last few seasons were one of their best, they even managed to make it to the champions league finals, it will be tough for them to repeat such similar feats and i think this will be harry kane last season at tottenham i think he really should move on if he want to win some trophies in his carere.

I personally really don't remember when Tottenham were able to reach the Champions League final but apparently, that achievement happened in the 2018/2019 season. Because as far as I remember about Tottenham, that Tottenham is a big club in the Premier League that doesn't have consistent results, so I can easily forget Tottenham's achievements in the previous few seasons. But yes, this season Tottenham has really messed up I think, because Tottenham only finished in 8th position and of course, Tottenham won't get a ticket for next season's European competition.

Tottenham is just in a bad situation right now. It is not impossible for them to come out of this situation. But it will certainly take time. A lot of players are going to leave Tottenham by the time they are trying to fix the problems that they have. Tottenham had a good squad to work with most of the time. But they have failed to actually achieve a good result even when they had a good squad.

With Harry Kane certainly leaving the club it is going to be a lot harder for them to achieve whatever they want to do. A big reason why players are not going to be interested to play for Tottenham they are not participating in the European competition.

Tottenham is really need Kane because since 2014 he was can able to playing consistent as Tottenham forward player so i couldn't imagine what will happen to Tottenham for next season if Kane decide to leave this team because lets be honest there was no forward players who has equal quality to Kane and indeed they still have Son Heung-min but this player has lost his touch and last season Son only scores 10 goals at premier league

Besides possibly will lost Kane Tottenham also will lost some of players such as their main goalkeeper Hugo Lloris who want to retired this year and Lucas Moura because of contract expired so the current manager Ange Postecoglou have a very difficult task to make Tottenham to performing well and with all of their current issues i am a bit doubt Tottenham can able to compete for top 4 next season

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Quote from: Docnaster on June 10, 2023, 04:46:33 PM

There's no doubt to the fact that Chelsea was the biggest flop the just come concluded English Premier League season and that's understandably because of the position they finished in at the end of the season despite the numerous world class players in their possession.
Graham Potter's clueless style of football was the main reason for the club's failure and Frank Lampard was called upon to come the rescue of a club he played and managed in the past but little did the Chelsea owner know that he's gonna leave them fighting for survival in the league

Todd Boehly, Chelsea's new owner, ruined everything that was working well for the club just because he wants new management. As I was observing my favorite club deteriorate from elite to mediocrity, we were slammed with horrible news. Chelsea has been in poor form this season, lacking practically everything an outstanding club requires, including the mentality and confidence to win games, as well as consistency in league games and other competitions. It has been a difficult season for the board, coaches, and, lastly, the supporters. The deed has always been done, I'm looking forward to next season, and it's ultimately up to the new manager to turn things around for the team.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 10, 2023, 04:19:53 PM

arsenal is still away from man city, even though at the start of the 22/23 season they looked really great but at the end of the season they turned into a weak team and that is really worrying. while man city they continue to show their best quality and guardiola managed to build a great team on all fronts (midfield, front and back). I am pessimistic that Man City can maintain the brand's good performance in the future because the competition in the EPL is very tight.

It is not about pessimism but I would say it is rather facts.
EPL is one of the hardest leagues to play in. Many teams competing each other in the top places and sometimes few points count. Arsenal were a pain in the back of Manchester City for many weeks. Manchester United and Newcastle were close but they missed many opportunities to get even closer. ~~Spurs~~, Liverpool and Chelsea might get back their form next season.
I assume next season will be hard for everyone of them and that City will win again EPL title Roll Eyes

Hard to think how manchester city won't dominate the premier league again next season , they have all the champion material ... the best manager in the world in pep guardiola .. the best rising star player in haaland and maybe the next one to come after they successfully conquered europe.

Perfect season for manchester city but they can't be just lured too long or they could slipped at some point.

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As the season is winding up we can begin to filter clubs into various category that fit them and if we must talk about clubs that jave under owrformend in this season we mentiin clubs like Chelsea, Liverpool, and Tottenham all of them jave not met up with the current standard of football that is being played in the international sports and this season European league have shown their flaw and there is need for immediate intervention.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on June 10, 2023, 05:05:41 PM

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We've talked about this before, it's been a really terrible season for Tottenham. They lost their chance to play in Europe with only 1 point difference. If they hadn't lost so many points in the last weeks, we could say that they would have very different goals right now.
They are not as ambitious and strong as they used to be, they must make new transfers to the team if they want to be successful next year. Otherwise, they will finish the season with such a ranking

Tottenham do not place a high priority on adding new players; instead, they prefer to rely on its current and upcoming players. I believe it is about time for them to pay more attention to transfer windows and add more players in order to enhance their squad and boost their performance in the league. They're simply a less competitive team in the Premier League currently, and they don't really fight for anything important anymore. They must understand their priorities and work toward them for the benefit of the entire team.

Tottenham Hotspur's major problem I think is from the club's management and just as Antonio Conte publicly criticized them while also mentioning the main issues of the club and the solution to those issues, I don't think there's anything that can be done to better the fortunes of the club rather than addressing the already mentioned issues from the club management.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 10, 2023, 04:19:53 PM

arsenal is still away from man city, even though at the start of the 22/23 season they looked really great but at the end of the season they turned into a weak team and that is really worrying. while man city they continue to show their best quality and guardiola managed to build a great team on all fronts (midfield, front and back). I am pessimistic that Man City can maintain the brand's good performance in the future because the competition in the EPL is very tight.

It is not about pessimism but I would say it is rather facts.
EPL is one of the hardest leagues to play in. Many teams competing each other in the top places and sometimes few points count. Arsenal were a pain in the back of Manchester City for many weeks. Manchester United and Newcastle were close but they missed many opportunities to get even closer. ~~Spurs~~, Liverpool and Chelsea might get back their form next season.
I assume next season will be hard for everyone of them and that City will win again EPL title Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 10, 2023, 04:09:20 PM

I can call Chelsea as biggest failer of this season because of the results they got and the performance they had. Chelsea hire a coach who didn't have the experience to manage the team and that's why Chelsea with Potter failed instead of saking Potter and using another coach they kept Potter and that's why they lost even more points.
Losing these huge amounts of points was enough to have a bad effect on players and they even had bad relationships and blame each other.
This cycle made Chelsea fail this season to be in 12th place of that be.

But at the beginning of Potter's entry into Chelsea to replace the coaching bench left by Tuchel, in fact, at the beginning of his debut at Chelsea, he was able to provide quite good improvements. Even at that time, the first few matches that Potter entered Chelsea several times to get successive wins. But I don't know what happened then Chelsea's performance again decreased. it was as if potter's strategy had failed again and Chelsea had made no progress since then.

I personally don't see the fault in the coach. Because even Tuchel, who is a coach who has presented many trophies for Chelsea, also failed to make Chelsea improve, it is only natural that Potter and Lampard also failed.

I think coaching at Chelsea has too much pressure there so coaches are not free to make changes to the squad they train.

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Quote from: xzone on June 10, 2023, 02:14:48 PM

We've talked about this before, it's been a really terrible season for Tottenham. They lost their chance to play in Europe with only 1 point difference. If they hadn't lost so many points in the last weeks, we could say that they would have very different goals right now.
They are not as ambitious and strong as they used to be, they must make new transfers to the team if they want to be successful next year. Otherwise, they will finish the season with such a ranking

Tottenham do not place a high priority on adding new players; instead, they prefer to rely on its current and upcoming players. I believe it is about time for them to pay more attention to transfer windows and add more players in order to enhance their squad and boost their performance in the league. They're simply a less competitive team in the Premier League currently, and they don't really fight for anything important anymore. They must understand their priorities and work toward them for the benefit of the entire team.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 10, 2023, 04:19:53 PM

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Manchester city has built a defensive line that has the combination of speed and power, which is the greatest need of physical football, born against the dominance that Guardiola has created in the recent past, by constantly spending the biggest budget on the defense zone since the day he came, and finally getting the consistency he wanted. And with the departure of quarterback Cancello in January, this profile got even sharper: an army of elephants with the physique of the defender + the energy of the fullback at the same time. In short, the city has turned into a stronger poison that also kills the current antidote, the system is now working almost perfectly. I don't think it can be even compared to Arsenal in some aspects, or any other team in that matter.

arsenal is still away from man city, even though at the start of the 22/23 season they looked really great but at the end of the season they turned into a weak team and that is really worrying. while man city they continue to show their best quality and guardiola managed to build a great team on all fronts (midfield, front and back). I am pessimistic that Man City can maintain the brand's good performance in the future because the competition in the EPL is very tight.

If I should say the least, I would say that Arsenal was a big disappointment to themselves and their fans in this season premier league tournament, their story perfectly describes what "from grace to grass" truly mean, I personally can not understand what really went wrong with them, being the best and all of a sudden, just like a switch was turned off, they lost traction and began losing matches, and only managed to draw a few, should I say that their falling out was due to them being overwhelmed by their winnings and how the world was cheering for them at that moment which maybe got into their heads which caused them to all of a sudden, loose their charm...

Anyways, they have another opportunity to prove themselves in the champions league next season, let's hope they get themselves together before the season begin.

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Pochettino success become Chelsea head coach and removed two strong candidate with Luis Henrique and Julian Nagelsmann, I think he has show his capacity why Chelsea management priority for choosing as head coach by winning tittle for next season.

I personally think there is no reason to get too excited about coach Pochettino. Just because Chelsea has changed coaches doesn't mean they will play well next season. Coach Pochettino is quite experienced. However, Pochettino was not successful with the PSG team. Despite having many star players, he could not stabilize the PSG team. Chelsea's problems are much the same. Chelsea also has a lot of star players in their squad. And their performance is poor due to poor bonding between team players. So we are not yet sure whether Pochettino will succeed with this team.

I feel since Lampard did not do well I feel Pochettino should be given a chance and Chelsea fans are really excited to see what they will become under his management, his appointment might actually favor Chelsea and his not doing well in PSG might be an experience for him to use as a tool to improve Chelsea, both PSG and Chelsea had a similar issue just that PSG is still better than Chelsea and with time even chelsae will take shape, I also noticed that Chelsea players are finding it difficult to understand each other they have very poor teamwork which is one of the major problems that clubs face. at least Chelsea needs to get ready for next season and prepare well if they want to survive.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 10, 2023, 04:09:20 PM

I can call Chelsea as biggest failer of this season because of the results they got and the performance they had. Chelsea hire a coach who didn't have the experience to manage the team and that's why Chelsea with Potter failed instead of saking Potter and using another coach they kept Potter and that's why they lost even more points.
Losing these huge amounts of points was enough to have a bad effect on players and they even had bad relationships and blame each other.
This cycle made Chelsea fail this season to be in 12th place of that be.

There's no doubt to the fact that Chelsea was the biggest flop the just come concluded English Premier League season and that's understandably because of the position they finished in at the end of the season despite the numerous world class players in their possession.
Graham Potter's clueless style of football was the main reason for the club's failure and Frank Lampard was called upon to come the rescue of a club he played and managed in the past but little did the Chelsea owner know that he's gonna leave them fighting for survival in the league

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Quote from: Renampun on June 10, 2023, 04:19:53 PM

arsenal is still away from man city, even though at the start of the 22/23 season they looked really great but at the end of the season they turned into a weak team and that is really worrying. while man city they continue to show their best quality and guardiola managed to build a great team on all fronts (midfield, front and back). I am pessimistic that Man City can maintain the brand's good performance in the future because the competition in the EPL is very tight.

The cycle will change and they will not dominate the Premier League forever. You have to look back at that time Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal were the most dominating teams regarding titles but all that changed when Pep Guardiola came in and coached Manchester City. Pep Guardiola has made Manchester City dominate the Premier League in the last 6 seasons, but that will surely change with time.

Arsenal were champions in the past, so are Liverpool and Manchester United. So the competition will be very fierce every season so it's natural for you not to always be optimistic about one team.

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Quote from: püsür on June 10, 2023, 03:17:21 PM

Manchester city has built a defensive line that has the combination of speed and power, which is the greatest need of physical football, born against the dominance that Guardiola has created in the recent past, by constantly spending the biggest budget on the defense zone since the day he came, and finally getting the consistency he wanted. And with the departure of quarterback Cancello in January, this profile got even sharper: an army of elephants with the physique of the defender + the energy of the fullback at the same time. In short, the city has turned into a stronger poison that also kills the current antidote, the system is now working almost perfectly. I don't think it can be even compared to Arsenal in some aspects, or any other team in that matter.

arsenal is still away from man city, even though at the start of the 22/23 season they looked really great but at the end of the season they turned into a weak team and that is really worrying. while man city they continue to show their best quality and guardiola managed to build a great team on all fronts (midfield, front and back). I am pessimistic that Man City can maintain the brand's good performance in the future because the competition in the EPL is very tight.

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I can call Chelsea as biggest failer of this season because of the results they got and the performance they had. Chelsea hire a coach who didn't have the experience to manage the team and that's why Chelsea with Potter failed instead of saking Potter and using another coach they kept Potter and that's why they lost even more points.
Losing these huge amounts of points was enough to have a bad effect on players and they even had bad relationships and blame each other.
This cycle made Chelsea fail this season to be in 12th place of that be.

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Quote from: püsür on June 10, 2023, 03:17:21 PM

Manchester city has built a defensive line that has the combination of speed and power, which is the greatest need of physical football, born against the dominance that Guardiola has created in the recent past, by constantly spending the biggest budget on the defense zone since the day he came, and finally getting the consistency he wanted. And with the departure of quarterback Cancello in January, this profile got even sharper: an army of elephants with the physique of the defender + the energy of the fullback at the same time. In short, the city has turned into a stronger poison that also kills the current antidote, the system is now working almost perfectly. I don't think it can be even compared to Arsenal in some aspects, or any other team in that matter.

Pep Guardiola has indeed built a squad that is not only good on the front lines but also good on the back lines. And even the Man City midfield player is also a player who is really flexible and can help the front and back lines effectively. The point is Pep Guardiola has succeeded in making Man City have a quality game that is without gaps and balanced on all fronts.

And comparing it to Arsenal in the season that just ended I think there really is a sizeable difference in strength between Arsenal and Man City. We can even see the evidence with several Arsenal vs Man City meetings, which Man City always wins quite easily. Arteta still has a lot to improve Arsenal in the coming season. But if Arsenal is compared to other teams besides Man City, Arsenal are also clearly superior and more consistent than any other team in the Premier League except Man City.

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To be honest I won't include Chelsea's name for the title race next season, but I'm putting them to compete in the top 4 at least. I don't mean to belittle them, but with what they've shown this season, to be honest it's a job that won't be easy to get them up and challenging for the title. I assess this from a realistic angle, but I also don't rule out the possibility that they will be able to answer my doubts about them.
Now they will be working with a new coach, and usually the new coach needs time to make his strategy run smoothly at the club he is in charge of. I hope management doesn't aim high for him, because that will put pressure on him.

Pochettino joined the team to achieve high goals, that's for sure, the minimum goal for Chelsea next season will be the top 4. But Pochettino seems to me a manager who will need a lot of time to prepare the team properly. I wonder how Arsenal will perform next season, how they will cope with not being able to hold on to the top positions, will they work even harder to achieve their goal, or will it still reduce faith in their strength.

Obviously a trainer needs time to make what is desired really well implemented, and that will take time.
Talking about Arsenal, the squad they are currently building is good, it's just that they have to give a few touches so they can be even more stable. What they have experienced this season should be a very valuable lesson for them, they must start to overcome and evaluate so they don't feel the same result. The end of the season is a record that they must improve, because from the start of the season they were very stable and towards the end of the season they had to lose something they had been chasing from the start of the season. It is very painful.

But as valuable as that lesson could be, it doesn't mean they can beat Manchester City next season. Manchester City remains the benchmark for everyone else. Even if Arsenal won two more games, I think that Manchester would still have won the title. The 89 points are the result of Manchester City stopping to play at 100% after they knew they would be the Premier League champions. They could have kept the pace and score more points if necessary. Arsenal played an amazing season with 84 points, yet they have to acknowledge that 84 is not enough, which is crazy because of Man City.

Manchester city has built a defensive line that has the combination of speed and power, which is the greatest need of physical football, born against the dominance that Guardiola has created in the recent past, by constantly spending the biggest budget on the defense zone since the day he came, and finally getting the consistency he wanted. And with the departure of quarterback Cancello in January, this profile got even sharper: an army of elephants with the physique of the defender + the energy of the fullback at the same time. In short, the city has turned into a stronger poison that also kills the current antidote, the system is now working almost perfectly. I don't think it can be even compared to Arsenal in some aspects, or any other team in that matter.

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Quote from: Bobrox on June 10, 2023, 01:33:24 PM

Pochettino success become Chelsea head coach and removed two strong candidate with Luis Henrique and Julian Nagelsmann, I think he has show his capacity why Chelsea management priority for choosing as head coach by winning tittle for next season.

I personally think there is no reason to get too excited about coach Pochettino. Just because Chelsea has changed coaches doesn't mean they will play well next season. Coach Pochettino is quite experienced. However, Pochettino was not successful with the PSG team. Despite having many star players, he could not stabilize the PSG team. Chelsea's problems are much the same. Chelsea also has a lot of star players in their squad. And their performance is poor due to poor bonding between team players. So we are not yet sure whether Pochettino will succeed with this team.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 10, 2023, 10:54:27 AM

It was a terrible season for Tottenham team they were not able to qualify for any european competition and their performance kinda sucked their last few seasons were one of their best, they even managed to make it to the champions league finals, it will be tough for them to repeat such similar feats and i think this will be harry kane last season at tottenham i think he really should move on if he want to win some trophies in his carere.

We've talked about this before, it's been a really terrible season for Tottenham. They lost their chance to play in Europe with only 1 point difference. If they hadn't lost so many points in the last weeks, we could say that they would have very different goals right now.
They are not as ambitious and strong as they used to be, they must make new transfers to the team if they want to be successful next year. Otherwise, they will finish the season with such a ranking

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