Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 3578.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on May 30, 2023, 11:48:20 PM

Well, Arsenal did well from the beginning of the tournament that made them to start leading the premier league table till their players begin to feel they are on top nothing can happen till the end of the tournament, that made Manchester city coach to do something that changed his players to used all the strategies to take over the first position from Arsenal. I think, Arsenal coach has learned a lesson from this defeat they experienced from Manchester city because many people thought Arsenal will win the title based on the position they are at the moment before Manchester city begin to do things to embrace the title.

actually Arsenal's failure to maintain the top of the table because of their own mistakes, which can not be consistent and maybe in my opinion because this team lacks mentality and feel there is pressure from Manchster City so that makes their performance decrease.
and besides that, Manchester City's performance since the start of the season has been very good and gradually this season this team has become more consistent and they have taken advantage of the Arsenal team's laxity.
but overall it must be admitted that Manchester City is better than Arsenal and they deserve to be champions.

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If.you have watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea you will know why Asernal deserve to win this seaon more than anyother club who will posibly be the winner, because with their level of motivation even as their already lost tge first spot shows a team that is ece ready to win unlike Manchester city who is still playing raw or losing matches at this stage of the league.

I'm not sure if you really watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea even though the match took place on May 3 and at that time Manchester city's performance was in a very strong state compared to Arsenal.
So I think you are not telling the truth.

Arsenal's performance against Manchester City was very poor. Arsenal were defeated 4-1. And it was such an abysmal defeat that ended Arsenal's chances of winning the title. How do you say that Arsenal deserves the title?
Arsenal started the season very well. This team was at the top of the table for a long time due to excellent performances. But Arsenal's performance deteriorated as players continued to suffer injuries. And the team could not maintain the continuity of performance. The Arsenal coach did not have suitable replacements for his players. This is why the team could not win the title.

Well, Arsenal did well from the beginning of the tournament that made them to start leading the premier league table till their players begin to feel they are on top nothing can happen till the end of the tournament, that made Manchester city coach to do something that changed his players to used all the strategies to take over the first position from Arsenal. I think, Arsenal coach has learned a lesson from this defeat they experienced from Manchester city because many people thought Arsenal will win the title based on the position they are at the moment before Manchester city begin to do things to embrace the title.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on May 30, 2023, 09:19:09 PM

Arsenal's performance against Manchester City was very poor. Arsenal were defeated 4-1. And it was such an abysmal defeat that ended Arsenal's chances of winning the title. How do you say that Arsenal deserves the title?
Arsenal started the season very well. This team was at the top of the table for a long time due to excellent performances. But Arsenal's performance deteriorated as players continued to suffer injuries. And the team could not maintain the continuity of performance. The Arsenal coach did not have suitable replacements for his players. This is why the team could not win the title.

Mikel Arteta and his teammates are castigated by their opponents just because they did not win the Premier League, despite the fact that they put in tireless efforts towards the end of the season. Facts show that Arsenal are no match for Manchester City in league games and performance; they lost to City both at home and away, the Cityzens knocked them out of other European competitions, and then returned to battle with Arsenal for the Premier League title, which they also won. Pep Guardiola has hijacked everything Mikel Arteta targets this season, one of Arsenal's worst and best seasons.

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If.you have watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea you will know why Asernal deserve to win this seaon more than anyother club who will posibly be the winner, because with their level of motivation even as their already lost tge first spot shows a team that is ece ready to win unlike Manchester city who is still playing raw or losing matches at this stage of the league.

I'm not sure if you really watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea even though the match took place on May 3 and at that time Manchester city's performance was in a very strong state compared to Arsenal.
So I think you are not telling the truth.

I have to align with you here as @RILWAN is saying what he doesn't know. How can a true viewer of football still say that Arsenal deserves to win the cup more than Man City, that's just out of it, the whole world knows that the only team that deserved it most is Man City. The situation is like this, at the beginning of the season, Man City was better, and later Arsenal took over until after the World Cup. But they couldn't sustain this and it's clear with their missed opportunities of losing and drawing while Man City was just beating any clubs that comes their way.

This is not luck but a deserved moment for Man City, they always deliver on the pitch and people have been signing their impressive praises, so that guy doesn't surely know what he said.

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I don't agree Mikel Arteta failed to clinge the title because he is less experienced compared to Guardiola, I believe Arsenal were still short of squad depth throughout the season and when the injuries started coming it had a huge impact on the team's performance and so it was difficult to maintain the momentum and form until the end however Arsenal had a good season and are working on improving themselves for the next campaign.

You making it look as if Arteta is not to blame in some of the mistakes that caused Arsenal the title, in some games Arteta used wrong substitution to kill the game. When it comes to injury crisis on the Arsenal team, I'd say it didn't show that much compare to last season, if not for the defensive department where Saliba wasn't present I don't think some crazy errors the other defenders caused would have resulted to goals.
Pep has been in the game long before Arteta started but that doesn't mean he [Arteta] would just hand over the title to Pep without a fight, at least try to beat City or get a draw, but Arsenal couldn't get a point in all their meetings against City this season, is just annoying to see City going all out on Arsenal by letting them know that they're not match to be Champions. Next season wouldn't be as easy as some of us football fans believe it will be for the Gunners, more competitions are coming, but can the Gunners withstand the pressure in all competitions that they're in?

The loss to Manchester City was not the major cause of the title loss by Arsenal. A team that had eight points clear two months ago just suddenly started dropping points. Arsenal drew against Liverpool, West Ham and Southampton. They lost against Manchester City and nailed their coffin by losing against Brighton. When a club's performance drops, the players are partially responsible but the coaches take full the blame and always face the consequences. So coach Mikel Arteta is the cause of the failure of Arsenal to win a league that they ruled for 248 days this season. When a club fails to achieve a set objective, players are hardly sacked because coached take the entire blame. Arsenal performed more than everyone's expectations this season but the reason for the criticism was that the cup was within their reach and they let it to slip away. Next season will not be easy for Arsenal because I doubt if they will have the luck they had last season.

Well said but when it comes to LUCK and the Gunners team, I doubt if they have any. Don't be surprised if they start having issues with players and bad behavior, like some trying to leave the team, coming late for training and all that. But something I've come to know about the Gunners is that ones they start something and it's going perfectly well, they know how to not finish well, but top 4 which they hardly fail to get would definitely be their target next season not the title.
With the way Arsenal finished the season, some pundit would say this is a great achievement for Arsenal or their best season, to me I see that as mockery. If you can't win the trophy then you've achieved nothing but failure.

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I was surprised to see the game of Arsenal team players on 28 may. Arsenal won by 5 goals. But if they can play as well as they did in this match, then Arsenal can keep the 2nd position. Will move from Avastan. But hopefully if Arsenal can perform well in every match then they will be able to go to 1st Avastan. Hope Arsenal will improve the quality of players in the team.

Arsenal players had a great performance against Wolves. But this match was not an important match for them. Arsenal would have been second in the table even if they had not won this match. And despite the defeat in this match, there has been no change in the Wolves' position in the points table. Then the performance of the Arsenal players was quite organized in this match. The performances of Xhaka and Saka in particular were excellent. Arsenal's performance will be pretty stable next season too unless players get injured.

When their fans hopes were high, that was when Arsenal fumble, they failed to defeat two important matches, it was humiliating and disappointing to say that a team like Nottingham Forest used Arsenal loss to run away from Relegation zone, Brighton was understandable since they were not in relegation zone before meeting with Arsenal and they were even way better form than Nottingham Forest only for them to lose to them and start showing seriousness against wolves match that wasn't necessary, nothing really changes when the match ended between these teams. I hope they try harder in next season but if teams that weren't serious should bounce back, they will have a lot of work to accomplish.

A 5-goal win against Wolves was not a necessary result after losing the title and qualifying for the Champions League. Arsenal should have done such a performance earlier. Arsenal were defeated at home against Brighton. and Liverpool. Arsenal drew three games in a row against West Ham and Southampton. Had it not been for such poor performances in these three matches, they would not have lost the top spot in the table. Arsenal players do not play well when needed. And so I would say Arsenal fans should not be so excited even if Arsenal win this match against Wolves 5-0.

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Quote from: klidex on May 30, 2023, 08:51:33 PM

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If.you have watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea you will know why Asernal deserve to win this seaon more than anyother club who will posibly be the winner, because with their level of motivation even as their already lost tge first spot shows a team that is ece ready to win unlike Manchester city who is still playing raw or losing matches at this stage of the league.

I'm not sure if you really watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea even though the match took place on May 3 and at that time Manchester city's performance was in a very strong state compared to Arsenal.
So I think you are not telling the truth.

Arsenal's performance against Manchester City was very poor. Arsenal were defeated 4-1. And it was such an abysmal defeat that ended Arsenal's chances of winning the title. How do you say that Arsenal deserves the title?
Arsenal started the season very well. This team was at the top of the table for a long time due to excellent performances. But Arsenal's performance deteriorated as players continued to suffer injuries. And the team could not maintain the continuity of performance. The Arsenal coach did not have suitable replacements for his players. This is why the team could not win the title.

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Quote from: RILWAN on May 30, 2023, 06:53:14 PM

If.you have watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea you will know why Asernal deserve to win this seaon more than anyother club who will posibly be the winner, because with their level of motivation even as their already lost tge first spot shows a team that is ece ready to win unlike Manchester city who is still playing raw or losing matches at this stage of the league.

I'm not sure if you really watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea even though the match took place on May 3 and at that time Manchester city's performance was in a very strong state compared to Arsenal.
So I think you are not telling the truth.

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I don't agree Mikel Arteta failed to clinge the title because he is less experienced compared to Guardiola, I believe Arsenal were still short of squad depth throughout the season and when the injuries started coming it had a huge impact on the team's performance and so it was difficult to maintain the momentum and form until the end however Arsenal had a good season and are working on improving themselves for the next campaign.

You making it look as if Arteta is not to blame in some of the mistakes that caused Arsenal the title, in some games Arteta used wrong substitution to kill the game. When it comes to injury crisis on the Arsenal team, I'd say it didn't show that much compare to last season, if not for the defensive department where Saliba wasn't present I don't think some crazy errors the other defenders caused would have resulted to goals.
Pep has been in the game long before Arteta started but that doesn't mean he [Arteta] would just hand over the title to Pep without a fight, at least try to beat City or get a draw, but Arsenal couldn't get a point in all their meetings against City this season, is just annoying to see City going all out on Arsenal by letting them know that they're not match to be Champions. Next season wouldn't be as easy as some of us football fans believe it will be for the Gunners, more competitions are coming, but can the Gunners withstand the pressure in all competitions that they're in?

The loss to Manchester City was not the major cause of the title loss by Arsenal. A team that had eight points clear two months ago just suddenly started dropping points. Arsenal drew against Liverpool, West Ham and Southampton. They lost against Manchester City and nailed their coffin by losing against Brighton. When a club's performance drops, the players are partially responsible but the coaches take full the blame and always face the consequences. So coach Mikel Arteta is the cause of the failure of Arsenal to win a league that they ruled for 248 days this season. When a club fails to achieve a set objective, players are hardly sacked because coached take the entire blame. Arsenal performed more than everyone's expectations this season but the reason for the criticism was that the cup was within their reach and they let it to slip away. Next season will not be easy for Arsenal because I doubt if they will have the luck they had last season.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on May 30, 2023, 05:10:47 PM

I don't agree Mikel Arteta failed to clinge the title because he is less experienced compared to Guardiola, I believe Arsenal were still short of squad depth throughout the season and when the injuries started coming it had a huge impact on the team's performance and so it was difficult to maintain the momentum and form until the end however Arsenal had a good season and are working on improving themselves for the next campaign.

You making it look as if Arteta is not to blame in some of the mistakes that caused Arsenal the title, in some games Arteta used wrong substitution to kill the game. When it comes to injury crisis on the Arsenal team, I'd say it didn't show that much compare to last season, if not for the defensive department where Saliba wasn't present I don't think some crazy errors the other defenders caused would have resulted to goals.
Pep has been in the game long before Arteta started but that doesn't mean he [Arteta] would just hand over the title to Pep without a fight, at least try to beat City or get a draw, but Arsenal couldn't get a point in all their meetings against City this season, is just annoying to see City going all out on Arsenal by letting them know that they're not match to be Champions. Next season wouldn't be as easy as some of us football fans believe it will be for the Gunners, more competitions are coming, but can the Gunners withstand the pressure in all competitions that they're in?

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Mikel Arteta is a young coach and compared to Guardiola he doesn't have enough experience and maybe that's why he failed to win the league this season while Arsenal had the first place in the table for weeks but lost just a few points and made some a few mistakes was enough for Guardiola to take the first place of the table however Arsenal had a good performance in this season and we can't complain about this team situation but I guess if Guardiola was not coaching Manchester City, Arsenal could win this season.

I think Pep is way more experienced than Arteta. But that isn’t the only reason why he failed to clinch the EPL title. There are a few other things Manchester City has going for them that Arsenal lacks. True, Arsenal had and held the first place position for a while but had some issues that made them drop form. Manchester City in my opinion, has a lot of quality and better players than Arsenal does. The tactics and expertise of the coach is also a point to note and Pep has that in the bag. Perhaps, Arsenal may have truly won if Pep wasn’t at the helm of Manchester City.
In general, Arsenal had a good season and coming in second place is actually not bad.

Some things are indeed difficult to make comparisons but still in this case even if Arteta and his squad fail but they have achieved quite well because they are back in the Arsenal zone that they lost over the last few seasons and their worst season has now turned in a good direction.
But it is directly compared to Manchester City, which in this case is more complex in terms of player and coach experience and individual players are also better in several sectors, obviously difficult for Arsenal.

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If.you have watched the match between Arsenal and Chelsea you will know why Asernal deserve to win this seaon more than anyother club who will posibly be the winner, because with their level of motivation even as their already lost tge first spot shows a team that is ece ready to win unlike Manchester city who is still playing raw or losing matches at this stage of the league.

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Tottenham in this season had the worst season they could ever have, they had an unstable performance with Conte but the thing they need to do was to just hire a better player because Conte was doing good they fired Conte and after that, they even had the worst situation. They fail to take the ticket for the Champions League and even after that, they failed to get into Europa League.
Even their legendary player Harry Kane is about to leave his team because of the bad situation they have.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on May 30, 2023, 05:57:56 PM

And currently Newcastle also has a history similar to Manchester City. as we can see Newcastle after changing ownership has also turned into an increasingly strong team. And I predict that in the coming season Newcastle will compete with Manchester City in the title race.

Regardless of history as long as there is money power they can obviously still change the situation and at the moment it is possible for Newcastle to be able to do that.
Now it is reported that to support their performance next season there is already a large amount of fresh funds and more than 400 million prepared to bring some players for the overhaul of the club.
Obviously, this is a real step for them to be able to exist more in the EPL, especially to increase the top position in the standings.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 30, 2023, 11:03:16 AM

Mikel Arteta is a young coach and compared to Guardiola he doesn't have enough experience and maybe that's why he failed to win the league this season while Arsenal had the first place in the table for weeks but lost just a few points and made some a few mistakes was enough for Guardiola to take the first place of the table however Arsenal had a good performance in this season and we can't complain about this team situation but I guess if Guardiola was not coaching Manchester City, Arsenal could win this season.

I think Pep is way more experienced than Arteta. But that isn’t the only reason why he failed to clinch the EPL title. There are a few other things Manchester City has going for them that Arsenal lacks. True, Arsenal had and held the first place position for a while but had some issues that made them drop form. Manchester City in my opinion, has a lot of quality and better players than Arsenal does. The tactics and expertise of the coach is also a point to note and Pep has that in the bag. Perhaps, Arsenal may have truly won if Pep wasn’t at the helm of Manchester City.
In general, Arsenal had a good season and coming in second place is actually not bad.

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Too bad this had to happen to Arsenal. In the last few matches towards the end of the season, they looked tired during the match, often made blunders in games and even lost several times against teams that were barely in the relegation zone. Their struggle has gone very far, but yes, no one can be blamed here, the season is over, and they can only lament the real fact that Manchester City deserved the Premier League title this season.

Arsenal lost their focus in the second half of the season, they didn't only look tired. Also, I don't know why their tactic seems not really effective anymore, the players also decreased their performance. There is something wrong between the players and the coach, there is something changes in their strategy and spirit. Another reason is their main striker got injured for a long time, Gabriel Jesus was absent in many matches. Sadly, some other players also got injured as well. This is a bit complicated for Arsenal, they are difficult to deal with injury because they don't have enough substitution players with the same quality as their main players. I think Arsenal needs more players in their squad for the next season. They need to sign some new players with good quality.

Arsenal wouldn't have lost concentration toward the conclusion of the season if they had added new players to their roster. Due to constant fixtures during games, their players became exhausted, and there is no better alternative for injured players.
As always, Arteta and the Arsenal players are not to be faulted for failing to win the Premier League; rather, they should be commended for maintaining their position atop the standings despite not signing quality players. I think Arsenal will take the necessary action by signing quality players by next season.

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Chelsea is Pochettiono's 3rd club in the Premier League after Southampton and Tottenham, so I think his experience in the top 3 European leagues at the moment can be useful for Chelsea during the team's development period after being devastated this season. I hope Pochettino can improve his tactical skills for Chelsea and make the club able to compete next season in the Premier League.

That experience will be quite helpful at least in this case he must be aware of the cruelty and hotness for the EPL in terms of what the atmosphere is like.
But on the other hand in this case for now at least Poche can be better and lift not like this season so it's also still very good even though the satisfaction of the officials may be different but of course he has to be better than this season.

I personally am quite sure that Pochettino will be able to make Chelsea's performance great again next season, because basically Pochettino can be said to always consistently keep his team in the top zone. So, even though Pochettino doesn't always win titles, but with Pochettino having the ability for his team to be consistent in competition in the top zone at least that's good enough.

But yes, because Chelsea is a team that has good finances, Pochettino should be able to make Chelsea stronger to enter the title race. That way, I personally look forward to Pochettino next season with Chelsea, because I have no doubt that Pochettino has good qualities in coaching big teams.

Now the decision has been made and it is very unfortunate for Joao as several statements suggest that Poche will not involve Joao in his plans for next season for Chelsea.
Actually it's quite a shame because in this case I think Joao really played quite well during his time at Chelsea and sometimes he's the one who made the difference for Chelsea when they were down.

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I think it is important to be fair here since Manchester City is now used for so long to play for for the title. Arsenal had not been part of the title race for almost a decade. The last time they became second was in the 2015/16 season when they finished with 71 points. I believe that is one of the biggest strengths that Manchester City has. They give the opponents the feeling that either they win almost every single game or it won't be enough. I am sure even now if Manchester City had to, they would have won the last two games as well. Arsenal came from the midfield now most of the time, finishing seasons 5th and even 8th sometimes. If you then finish with 84 points, it is already an amazing achievement. But honestly I think not even 90 points would have been enough since Manchester City would still have had the last two games to win one more point than they did. Being a competitor of Manchester City must be frustrating.

Well said, Manchester City are already used to competing for the title race, it feels like they have much experience competing in the title race just same way Real Madrid prove to know so much about how to be successful in the Champions league and Arsenal looked like newbies in the business this season that is why it was easy for them to fall off the title race. Indeed competing with Manchester City can be very frustrating.

But actually, before Manchester City changed ownership, we all knew that Manchester City was just a team that was always underestimated. Even in the past, Manchester United as a team in the same city as Manchester City was always far superior before Manchester City found a new, wealthy owner. After changing ownership, Manchester City was bought by Sheikh Mansour. Everything has changed drastically. Manchester City is transformed into a strong team and this can happen because of the strong financial side of the Manchester city club.

And currently Newcastle also has a history similar to Manchester City. as we can see Newcastle after changing ownership has also turned into an increasingly strong team. And I predict that in the coming season Newcastle will compete with Manchester City in the title race.

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Quote from: Prince Malik on May 30, 2023, 04:42:16 PM

I feel really sad for Leicester and i think they don't really deserve the relegation, the question is what will be the decision of some players like verdy for the next season, i believe verdy love the club and most probably he will stay in Leicester and try to back with the club to the premier league but this will may be not the case of other players

Leicester city was a big club in previous years but this year they are very weak and they are very easy to beat by other teams. About Vardy I think he will stay at Leicester city even though Leicester city has been relegated, I even think he will hang up his boots at Leicester city because he has defended Leicester city for almost 11 years since he joined in the 2012 season.

Vardy loyalty deserves a thumbs up because a few seasons earlier he was the main attraction in the transfer window by big EPL teams but he chose to stay and be loyal to Leicester City. Vardy is 36 years old and his performance on the field is also declining.

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Quote from: harapan on May 30, 2023, 04:38:00 PM

Leicester City gave Rogers too much time even though he was not actually doing a decisive job for the club.Ever since they got promoted to the premier league 2015 this is the worst season for Leicester City, during the stay they won the Premier league and also the fa Cup. But with the relegation most players will want to play for big clubs. The Championship also will start soon Leicester can be back if they put in more energy but that I know will not happen or occur smoothly.

Leicester's story has come to an end in the Premier League and I'm afraid this is a really bad ending. Because they couldn't even stay in the league while they still had really good players in the squad. You can have bad times during the season no matter how good your players are of course. Chelsea is the best example to be given for that. But at the end of the day you should be able to figure out a way to finish the season at a safe position from the relegation zone.

But we didn't see this from Leicester. They were fishing in troubled waters and it cost them too much. They won't make do with only relegation without doubt. They will lose some of their good players as a result. They will need to put a huge effort into it to promote to the PL again.

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