Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 383.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 04, 2024, 02:08:28 AM

Manchester United gave Ten Hag almost 3 seasons to prove himself. The same will happen with Amorim. But, will United give Amorim the big funds that Ten Hag got to shop for players?

The problem with United giving this much time to bad coaches is because Sir Alex Ferguson didn't started with a title on the first year, and then became a legend if I remember correctly. I mean I do remember the part of him becoming legend correctly lol, I am just not sure if he started not so great, I think he didn't. That is why they think if they give coaches some good time, the coach can turn it around as well.

Plus, Erik Ten Hag got two cups, one of them is FA cup last year over City, so there was moments of brilliance by them as well, not like they were shocked to get this. This is why we need to remember ETH wasn't a good coach this year and he didn't improve a single bit, but he did had some good times there.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 04, 2024, 02:03:41 PM

This shows that Ruben Amorim job at Manchester United will be difficult than he even imagined, so many players may possibly be loaned or sold out to be honest.

Though white Manchester United had more big chances missed, I'm still disappointed Chelsea didn't take theirs well also, especially the missed from Enzo Fernandes, which would have just sealed the win for us, but I Thank God we got at least a draw, as I somehow expected. Now we made it to top 4 after a long time but seriously Sanchez needs to do better because he can't be having good saves and making costly errors in most matches, it's becoming more annoying.

Even Ruben Amorim himself knows he is going to take a very difficult and tasky job, the club is definitely not in the state where the fans need to put in high hope on the new manager. The fans and the club need to actually realize that they are not that top club again and stop the expectations of winning the league or major trophies now, this will give the manager time and confidence. If you look at this players performance you will definitely know that many of them will leave by the end of the season, most especially this injury prone players

Manchester biggest undoing this season has always been the lack of converting their own chances. They are multiple matches even the big matches that I think of they have been more clinical they would have gotten more points than they have today. Hopefully Amorim can help them change that

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There has never been a red card(s) shown in this fixture Man UTD vs Chelsea fixture and with the way the refs both the VAR refs has been handling games in the EPL hasn't been favoring games instead it is messing up everything, with coaches and players including the fans complaining but they (refs) haven't been able to amend their errors if I should call it that. Yesterday a red card was suppose to be shown to the Manchester United defender Martinez when he tackled Cole Palmer but it seems the ref wasn't interested on checking that tackle neither are the VAR refs, my question is what are they thinking because nobody will say that tackle doesn't deserve a red card, to me that should have been reviewed and also a red card should have been shown to Martinez. Is it that they are trying maintain that record till whenever they feel like letting it go because I don't understand what happened why there wasn't a red card, what do you guys think about this?

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 04, 2024, 12:58:09 PM

Manchester United against Leicester City in the English League Cup delivered incredible performance to win the game and that sparked reactions from football fans with many suggesting that Manchester United are back to form and now more improved than they were under Erik ten Hag but considering their performance in their home league game against Chelsea, there's no much difference between the current team and what we were seeing under their former Dutch manager. United are yet to play exciting and entertaining football again and maybe their newly appointed permanent manager Ruben Amorim will make that happen when he arrives.

This shows that Ruben Amorim job at Manchester United will be difficult than he even imagined, so many players may possibly be loaned or sold out to be honest.

Though white Manchester United had more big chances missed, I'm still disappointed Chelsea didn't take theirs well also, especially the missed from Enzo Fernandes, which would have just sealed the win for us, but I Thank God we got at least a draw, as I somehow expected. Now we made it to top 4 after a long time but seriously Sanchez needs to do better because he can't be having good saves and making costly errors in most matches, it's becoming more annoying.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 04, 2024, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

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And why did you even think Manchester United were improving? Their last match was against Chelsea, and I didn’t see anything special that they played in the match. We all know that the match will be a tough one for the two clubs, even if Manchester United are not in form, whenever they play against Chelsea, they are always playing well, and they played at home again, so they didn’t play anything special to me, and in their match against Leicester City, they played against a weak team, so we won’t call that an improvement. Let’s see how they will perform in their coming matches, before we going to conclude.

Even if you don't see this as an improvement, do you notice a different atmosphere when Manchester United play?
I'm not a Manchester United fan, but I admit that there was something different about them when they changed coaches. Ten Hag is a coach who focuses on his plans, but van Nistelrooy is a passionate coach. Have you ever seen Ten Hag celebrate like van Nistelrooy did yesterday? I don't remember if he ever did that.

Improvement is not completely judged by match results, but the pattern of play and the way they build attacks and control pressure must also be reviewed. I tend to like the performance of the players under van Nistelrooy, this is very different compared to Ten Hag.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 04, 2024, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach.

And why did you even think Manchester United were improving? Their last match was against Chelsea, and I didn’t see anything special that they played in the match. We all know that the match will be a tough one for the two clubs, even if Manchester United are not in form, whenever they play against Chelsea, they are always playing well, and they played at home again, so they didn’t play anything special to me, and in their match against Leicester City, they played against a weak team, so we won’t call that an improvement. Let’s see how they will perform in their coming matches, before we going to conclude.

They were not really improving, but this is not something I would say the new coach is responsible for. He did what we all would do if Manchester United calls and wants to give you a job. Everybody would say I take over. Ten Hag was a huge mistake from day one because he wasn't the coach to develop a team. But I see the misunderstanding because he did an outstanding job in the Netherlands. but that was his limit. He isn't suited to turn Manchester United despite all the money into a competitor again. Pep Guardiola is the one guy and Klopp was the other guy who can develop a team over years to then win for several years. But they have something to say when new players are bought. Ten Hag is an ego guy. He wants whatever he wants. He can't accept criticism.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 04, 2024, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach.

And why did you even think Manchester United were improving? Their last match was against Chelsea, and I didn’t see anything special that they played in the match. We all know that the match will be a tough one for the two clubs, even if Manchester United are not in form, whenever they play against Chelsea, they are always playing well, and they played at home again, so they didn’t play anything special to me, and in their match against Leicester City, they played against a weak team, so we won’t call that an improvement. Let’s see how they will perform in their coming matches, before we going to conclude.

Manchester United against Leicester City in the English League Cup delivered incredible performance to win the game and that sparked reactions from football fans with many suggesting that Manchester United are back to form and now more improved than they were under Erik ten Hag but considering their performance in their home league game against Chelsea, there's no much difference between the current team and what we were seeing under their former Dutch manager. United are yet to play exciting and entertaining football again and maybe their newly appointed permanent manager Ruben Amorim will make that happen when he arrives.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 04, 2024, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach.

And why did you even think Manchester United were improving? Their last match was against Chelsea, and I didn’t see anything special that they played in the match. We all know that the match will be a tough one for the two clubs, even if Manchester United are not in form, whenever they play against Chelsea, they are always playing well, and they played at home again, so they didn’t play anything special to me, and in their match against Leicester City, they played against a weak team, so we won’t call that an improvement. Let’s see how they will perform in their coming matches, before we going to conclude.

Exactly the way you said it, Manchester United performance in their last two matches cannot be used to quantify how good they are in the league yet. They played against Leicester City in the Carabao Cup which many team don’t field in their main players but second tier teams or players from the academy, so it will be very easy for them to win that match. Manchester United and Chelsea are big rivals for long and whenever there’s it a match between this two teams, they both put in their best to win the matches even though they know that their performance is not that great at that time in the league. The teams always try to outshine the other to win the match. So getting a draw in this match is just not surprising to me and I won’t use that to say that they’ve improved in their game.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 04, 2024, 08:46:18 AM

A great comeback from Tottenham, and it's all due to Solanke impressive performance. Solanke's pressing and work off the ball really helped his club in the second half. I still don't know why many people called him a waste of money.

Solanke's stats show his huge impact on the game against Aston Villa. If he gets rolling, he could become a glorified forward in the future. He only needs to get enough minutes. He's often sit on the bench.

Some players are not given much opportunity to play or enough time to play in the club they’ve been signed into if there’s a player that is playing same position with them and better than them. Solana cannot bench their main striker now even though he’s also good as a striker. Moments like this are when he needs to show his expertise more in order to be considered more in future games. He really did well in this match and the stats speaks well for him.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach.

And why did you even think Manchester United were improving? Their last match was against Chelsea, and I didn’t see anything special that they played in the match. We all know that the match will be a tough one for the two clubs, even if Manchester United are not in form, whenever they play against Chelsea, they are always playing well, and they played at home again, so they didn’t play anything special to me, and in their match against Leicester City, they played against a weak team, so we won’t call that an improvement. Let’s see how they will perform in their coming matches, before we going to conclude.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on November 04, 2024, 12:11:38 PM

Quote from: Odusko on November 04, 2024, 11:29:21 AM

The thing between Fulham and Brentford alot will be at stake for both team and if care is not taken Fulham will have the winning goal on the match, and for sure it will be a point where the club will make every potential techniques, to win the game, because Fulham have an Upper hand to Brentford since with their recent reports and information of the previous performance.

So for that if I an to predict the outcome of the match, it will be around 3:0 and possibly, Brentford will possibly make a good attempts to make a goal record in this match.

But this is football game and anything can happen between them, and Brentford will be attempting a strong winning.

Based on my own perspective, this game between Fulham and Brentford might end in a draw, because both of them will try their possible best to see that they were able to win their opponent and their performance is almost the same, although we might say that Brentford are one point ahead of Fulham, but that doesn’t still mean that they are better than Fulham, although you have your own perspective on them. Because to me, having a prediction of 3:0 is somehow risky, but everyone has his own perspective of the game, which is why it’s been called a game we all decide on prediction..

No I don't agree with you this match is not a draw match here Fulham played much better than Brentford. So if the game goes at normal pace then Fulham will win the match. But I am not too excited about tomorrow's match because there is a big match tomorrow which is the US election where there is a lot of hard fighting going on. Anyway, in all seriousness, based on Fulham's previous performances, they will win the match, there is no chance of this match being a draw.

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Quote from: irhact on November 04, 2024, 10:33:49 AM

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Not many games have they played under him therefore it's not worth saying that Manchester United haven't gotten a lost under hime. He has played only 2 or three games. After playing as many as 5 game, he would have conceded defeat. But unfortunately he won't be handling the team after the next game. The main new coach will be taking over. Manchester United really tried in yesterday game. I didn't expect them to play Chelsea in the way that they played. They almost won the game but Garnacho was selfish, many times he could have passed the ball to his teammates and it'll become an attempt or a goal but he didn't, the ending is as usual draws.

I agree, two matches cannot be the reason why Ruud van Nistelrooy is said to be better than Ten Hag. However, these two coaches have different strategic approaches and both of them are also different in leading their team's matches. Ruud van Nistelrooy is much more enthusiastic than Ten Hag, of course that is the character of a truly passionate player.

The final finish is the reason why Manchester United only scored 1 goal in the match against Chelsea. Garnacho had some good chances, but the finishing looked poor. Bruno Fernandes too, he failed with his good chances apart from the penalty. I know some players are still quite selfish and that can't benefit the team in difficult circumstances.

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Quote from: Odusko on November 04, 2024, 11:29:21 AM

The thing between Fulham and Brentford alot will be at stake for both team and if care is not taken Fulham will have the winning goal on the match, and for sure it will be a point where the club will make every potential techniques, to win the game, because Fulham have an Upper hand to Brentford since with their recent reports and information of the previous performance.

So for that if I an to predict the outcome of the match, it will be around 3:0 and possibly, Brentford will possibly make a good attempts to make a goal record in this match.

But this is football game and anything can happen between them, and Brentford will be attempting a strong winning.

Based on my own perspective, this game between Fulham and Brentford might end in a draw, because both of them will try their possible best to see that they were able to win their opponent and their performance is almost the same, although we might say that Brentford are one point ahead of Fulham, but that doesn’t still mean that they are better than Fulham, although you have your own perspective on them. Because to me, having a prediction of 3:0 is somehow risky, but everyone has his own perspective of the game, which is why it’s been called a game we all decide on prediction..

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Quote from: Weawant on November 04, 2024, 11:20:38 AM

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Who do you think will be getting all three points in that game or do you think it'll end in stalemate?

Brentford has been looking tricky (lol) it do appear like a weak team but are very swift to take chances when one comes around and if they happen to be leading, their defenses gradually turns so firm that penetration becomes a problem, they employ am almost all defensive strategy whenever they are leading but Fulham isn't a weak team either, they are almost on same scale even with their strength and form but theirs a slight difference I'm hoping today they get a fair play and the best for today should take the complete points but I expect a goal from bothe of them.

I tend to want to see Fulham get 3 points at home today. Brentford is a bit tough in terms of playing style but with the hope that the hosts must be more prepared to provide a surprise, Fulham must be able to take advantage of this opportunity. The match takes place at the beginning of the week so not many people are interested in watching because it is not a big six club. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Polkeins on November 04, 2024, 10:09:55 AM

In general Tottenham in the first and second half were different teams and when Aston Villa scored I rejoiced, because I thought that now in the second half Aston Villa will finally defeat Tottenham and the odds on Aston Villa's victory was 3.5 and I thought it was a lot and I decided to try my luck, besides Tottenham did not look the favorite in this game.
Tottenham lost to Crystal Palace and won against City, but still the odds for Tottenham to win 1.8 seemed strange and I thought that at least it should have been 2.2 or 2.3, but the second half performance of Tottenham showed why the bookmakers believed in Tottenham's victory. In fact, Aston Villa had no dangerous moments in the second half and Aston Villa just fought off Tottenham's attacks, and Aston Villa did it badly and the third goal was the fault of Aston Villa defenders, who gave away essentially a goal-scoring pass to a Tottenham player.

Tottenham and Aston Villa both were playing neck to neck till the time the match was level 1-1. Once Tottenham got the lead by Solanke, there are only 15 minutes left in the match. Aston Villa tried to go all in at attack and this opened spaces for the Tottenham. Solanke scored another goal in the 79 minutes and game are all over for the Villa. Tottenham got another goal right at the end of the match too and the final score was 4-1. Those who only saw the score may feel that it was a one sided match, but actually it was a close game till the 74 min.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 04, 2024, 08:55:53 AM

The thing between Fulham and Brentford alot will be at stake for both team and if care is not taken Fulham will have the winning goal on the match, and for sure it will be a point where the club will make every potential techniques, to win the game, because Fulham have an Upper hand to Brentford since with their recent reports and information of the previous performance.

So for that if I an to predict the outcome of the match, it will be around 3:0 and possibly, Brentford will possibly make a good attempts to make a goal record in this match.

But this is football game and anything can happen between them, and Brentford will be attempting a strong winning.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 04, 2024, 08:55:53 AM

Later tonight at Craven Cottage, Fulham will be playing host to Brentford in what'll be the final game of match week 10 in the English Premier League. Considering the performances of both teams in the league this season, I don't think there's much difference as both teams are separated by just 1 point in the league table. If Fulham wins the game, they'll tie with 9th and 10th placed Newcastle with 15 points apiece but if Brentford wins they'll climb to 9th position. Who do you think will be getting all three points in that game or do you think it'll end in stalemate?

Brentford has been looking tricky (lol) it do appear like a weak team but are very swift to take chances when one comes around and if they happen to be leading, their defenses gradually turns so firm that penetration becomes a problem, they employ am almost all defensive strategy whenever they are leading but Fulham isn't a weak team either, they are almost on same scale even with their strength and form but theirs a slight difference I'm hoping today they get a fair play and the best for today should take the complete points but I expect a goal from bothe of them.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 04, 2024, 09:49:56 AM

You don't have to apologize, I see that you're a dumbass Grin

There's absolutely nothing to apologize for... Your team has been on their high horses for the past weeks that they had to be kicked outta their position... How insane is that? But guess what, you've got other badass teams beneath -- they're craving for an opportunity to pull y'all down the next hurdle -- hitting the ball so hard each time they get a chance, yelling out their voices, "like that of the hungry zombies in the apocalypse" Tongue

Let's see how it ends for y'all... Sad!

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Bookmakers currently see this game as:

2.02 - 3.80 - 3.55
Typical odds for a random game where the advantage is given to the home team. I don’t think that betting on Fulham or Brentford is profitable, but I like the outcome of Fulham or Brentford with odds of 1.25. Judging by Brentford's uncompromising nature, we are unlikely to see a draw in this game, and it is likely that the team that scores first will win the game.

Whenever I see odds like this, I don't need further sentimental analysis to know which team to play for, or against... I don't even need any of that as both teams would always end up in the biweekly coupon results - draw! If anything changes, just a single goal would end the match in a 1:nil and that's it.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 04, 2024, 10:44:02 AM

Quote from: irhact on November 04, 2024, 10:33:49 AM

Not many games have they played under him therefore it's not worth saying that Manchester United haven't gotten a lost under hime. He has played only 2 or three games. After playing as many as 5 game, he would have conceded defeat. But unfortunately he won't be handling the team after the next game. The main new coach will be taking over.

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach. He shows some signal of being a good coach in future, but now he has many things to do, more time, more matches to prove his management capability. Manchester United will be coached by Ruben Amorim, not Nistelrooy in future so Ruud van Nistelrooy can enjoy his short time as a head coach for Manchester United. He might have another chance to be Manchester United head coach officially, not as a temporary replacement.

Although only two matches led by Ruud van Nistelrooy, but the results are not bad at all and also, in fact Manchester United played better under Ruud van Nistelrooy compared to when they played under Erik ten Hag who seemed to have great pressure. Also, there is still no guarantee for Ruben Amorim to be able to succeed at Manchester United, because basically Ruben Amorim also has no experience to be a player and coach outside the Portuguese league.

Thus, there is absolutely no guarantee for the good results for Ruben Amorim later and also, I think it would be better for Manchester United to entrust the coaching chair to Ruud van Nistelrooy first, at least until the middle of the season or until the end of this season. Because I think, Ruud van Nistelrooy has good qualities as the head coach of Manchester United.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 03, 2024, 11:05:27 AM

It's 4-1 now. Shambolic performance from Villa in the second half. Their mentality was fully destroyed after Tottenham's first goal. They're worsening as their RB gets exploited by Tottenham.

Their players made too many mistakes. They made too many touches, dribbled slowly, and did not pass the ball right away. Also, starting four midfielders made their build-up so slow. It's obvious their strategy 4-4-2 is not working in modern football.

Since Aston Villa has been a tough opponent for any team this season; I immediately think that Tottenham Spurs has lost another home game before their incredible comeback. Johnson gave Tottenham an equalizer in the 49th minute of the game. As soon as the Tottenham players equalized, Aston Villa performance declined, and they lost the game conceding three more goals. Aston Villa suffered their second loss of the season and dropped back to sixth place in the league.

Quote from: 3meek on November 04, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

The last match of the EPL round 10 remains today - Fulham vs Brentford... Both clubs are close to the middle of the standings and probably play the same way... Fulham have no wins in the last three matches, although they played well against Villa and Man City... Brentford have played away against top clubs and have lost all the time, but have also scored... I don't know who will win today, but I will bet on a Fulham win with good odds of 2.1...

This season, Brentford has suffered more defeats than Fulham, although the two teams are only separated by one point. However, since both sides need the points to improve their league position, it might be too dangerous to bet on Fulham to win. There is a chance that today match would result in a draw because Brentford had a strong striker who had scored eight Premier League goals in nine matches this season, Fulham had won just two of their home games, while Brentford had lost all of their last away games.

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Quote from: irhact on November 04, 2024, 10:33:49 AM

Not many games have they played under him therefore it's not worth saying that Manchester United haven't gotten a lost under hime. He has played only 2 or three games. After playing as many as 5 game, he would have conceded defeat. But unfortunately he won't be handling the team after the next game. The main new coach will be taking over.

It's true. With only two matches so far, it's hard to say Manchester United are improving and Nistelrooy is a good coach. He shows some signal of being a good coach in future, but now he has many things to do, more time, more matches to prove his management capability. Manchester United will be coached by Ruben Amorim, not Nistelrooy in future so Ruud van Nistelrooy can enjoy his short time as a head coach for Manchester United. He might have another chance to be Manchester United head coach officially, not as a temporary replacement.

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