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Quote from: arimamib on October 05, 2022, 12:34:16 PM

This match will be tough for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp team have to face the team who are ranked first in the standings. Liverpool inconsistent performance this season makes it doubtful that they can win the match against Arsenal, especially in this match Liverpool will be a guest at Arsenal.

Liverpool were only able to draw with Brighton in the last match in the Premier League, conceding three goals from Brighton means Liverpool defense is not in good condition. Klopp must put up a strong defensive foundation against Arsenal, because Arsenal front line this season has been very productive.

Liverpool draw tie against Brighton all points out that the reds are still lacking some potential areas in the team. Jurgen Klopp not giving up as his next game is arsenal which is a tough one. Alot to learn from the game, Liverpool defend very shaky when put pressure on and the manager is finding a solid solution to the team problem. I'm just waiting for the January transfer window, we would see the potential players Jürgen Klopp will bring into the team.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on October 05, 2022, 11:48:07 AM

Looking forward with Liverpool still inconsistent performance in this season won 2 of 7 games seems not in the top level and likely Arsenal most confidence after last winning on North London Derby against with Tottenham Hotspur. Actually Arsenal have almost impressive record until 8 games in Primer League except losing from Manchester United only in this season and left 7 won of 8 games. I think Arsenal have chance keep going on good record in this Primer League season against with Liverpool on next match.

Liverpool bad started in this season and make have drop to 9th standing position awhile, if can't recovery and return to top performance actually Liverpool can loss their chance finish on top fourth standing position at Primer League. I want see Liverpool can defeat Arsenal on next match and wake up get dominance back in primer league.

This match will be tough for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp team have to face the team who are ranked first in the standings. Liverpool inconsistent performance this season makes it doubtful that they can win the match against Arsenal, especially in this match Liverpool will be a guest at Arsenal.

Liverpool were only able to draw with Brighton in the last match in the Premier League, conceding three goals from Brighton means Liverpool defense is not in good condition. Klopp must put up a strong defensive foundation against Arsenal, because Arsenal front line this season has been very productive.

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Yes, Liverpool will play Arsenal this weekend. Arsenal, which is also on fire, seems to be a tough opponent for Firmino cs. You see, Salah seems to be in a down form with Liverpool in the last few match where it is difficult for him to score goals. The Liverpool forward's goal instincts have been lacking at the start of the season, but somehow they have managed to beat Bournemouth with 9 goals a few match earlier.

Arsenal can be favorites in the match this weekend especially because the morale of the team is very good after winning the derby match with a promising score. If Liverpool dropped points today against Rangers in the Champions League, then you might see their motivation going down against Arsenal as well.

It's an important match for Gunners as Liverpool are not an easy opponent and also after dropping so much points, Liverpool will be hoping to change things as early as possible to keep their title hopes alive. Although Gunners are the favourite, but Liverpool also have dangerous players. It will be an interesting battle between the two as both are title contender teams and both need the points desperately but only one can get the full 3 points in the next fixture.

As always am gonna go with Arsenal to win.

Arsenal should win this very game. They’ll be playing at the Emirates so the confidence will be there to win. Also Arsenal will take advantage of Liverpool's poor form and beat them. Liverpool has won just two of their first seven Premier League encounters. They have to fix certain issues in the team starting from their defense. They have lost it and allowing teams to score more goals. That’s a problem they’ll have to fix before the Arsenal game.

Apart from the advantages of Arsenal playing at home, Arsenal is in better shape and form when compared to Liverpool this season, the young lads are on fire every one of them is in good form and has a strong zeal to play with their whole mind that's why the team is looking very much better this season, do you see the pressure Arsenal players mount on any team they are playing against especially when they concede a goal? this shows the love and passion they have for the team and their willingness to fight to make sure they keep winning all their matches. I don't see Liverpool escaping a defeat at Emirates because Liverpool team has lost confidence and motivation to fight in the Premier League this season, unless they are going to do the unimaginable against Arsenal but I doubt if that could be possible looking at the performance of Arsenal.

Liverpool's defence is too porous for any good striker to break in a score as many goals as possible unless they fix that error the team can't stop conceding cheap goals and against Arsenal that has a hungry young and talented goal getters so far, I think it's another big blow for Liverpool this weekend.

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There are still some possibilities that can happen even though Liverpool are still unable to be like the previous seasons.
But indeed talking about Arsenal they are currently beyond expectations. Actually for their improvement I'm still very confident but the difference is very big this season and it's not impossible that they can win again even though the chance of a draw is still very big but I expect victory from one of the teams in this match.

Arsenal next will face Liverpool, and this will be a very difficult match to predict. Because Arsenal's form has been impressive this season,
especially after they beat Tottenham, this proves that Arsenal deserves to be reckoned with as Man City's strongest competitor to compete
to win the Premier League trophy this season. On the other hand, Liverpool's performance this season has indeed decreased compared to
the previous season. I don't know the reason why Liverpool have been inconsistent this season, the most important thing is that Liverpool is
still a strong team in the Premier League and Arsenal will not easily beat Liverpool.

But because the performances of Arsenal and Liverpool are very different this season compared to the previous season, indeed it ended up being
difficult to predict for the outcome of the Arsenal vs Liverpool match. Maybe a draw is the fairest and quite realistic result for both teams,
but of course neither Arsenal nor Liverpool wanted to win. What is certain is that the Arsenal vs Liverpool match will be very tight and entertaining,
because both teams will play attacking since the early minutes, and I'm sure there will be a lot of goals created in that match.

It's obviously going to be tough as you say but sometimes Arsenal surprises me in my opinion.
When they were seeded quite a lot when facing Manchester United they lost quite prominently but when they faced Tottenham even though they were in the lead but in the predictions there were those who said it was difficult to say who won they also gave a surprise in this regard.
It is not impossible that in this match there will also be surprises and I expect something like that because indeed a big match like this when there is a surprise is something very good to watch.

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Quote from: salad daging on October 05, 2022, 11:41:53 AM

How about against Liverpool next week? Arsenal must be mentally prepared now next week by becoming a big match for the second time, indeed Liverpool are still trying to continue to gain points but at least Arsenal can dominate all games so they can still survive at the start of the season.

in the Premier League Liverpool are not so good at the moment. they were held to a draw by Brighton in the last match. although the performance in the Champions League is quite good, Liverpool faces Arsenal, of course, it will not be easy for Liverpool.
Liverpool is not without opportunities. if playing at home, there is a possibility that Liverpool will match Arsenal's game. but Liverpool will play at home Arsenal. Arsenal has played very well so far. only 1 loss and they are quite productive. this will not be good for Liverpool.

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Have you watched Arsenal play this season? They're playing just like Manchester city and that's not a surprise considering their manager was a former assistant to Pep under Manchester city. Arsenal are on the front foot attacking from the beginning of the game until the very last minute. The only problem they're having at the moment is been defensively strong when they get counter attack due to the high defensive line they're keeping. This is the flaw Manchester united were able to exploit and won the game with just counter attacking.

Very correct analysis you made. You are very correct about everything you said about Arsenal. They have a very cohesive team with great talents and big understanding. Arsenal team can compete favourably with any team in England but Arsenal alway have this anxiety on them when they face big teams. They almost flopped last week against Tottenham if not that Royal got unnecessary red card.
My point is that any big team can make a come back against Arsenal and besides that Liverpool team is back to form. You can attest to this if you watched their last two matches.

Seeing their match last week against Arsenal, I actually don't agree if I say they almost failed to win because regardless of the red card or not there they actually have 2 goals ahead so their pressure is better than Tottenham. As for when the red card came, this clearly made their pressure more dominating so I don't think it was almost a failure to win because from the start they had the belief to win.

Now against Liverpool even though it is tough but when they play at home it will definitely make the difference in my opinion and of course Arsenal are now more confident.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 05, 2022, 05:24:00 AM

I hope so. Liverpool was not in the best performance. That means arsenal has more chance to win against liverpool rather than loosing with it. Liverpool has been winning again rangers with 2-0. This may make make liverpool to make a comeback against arsenal. Arsenal must play with all of its performance to be able to beat liverpool. In my opinion learned from last match of arsenal and i do believe arsenal has consider how performance from the liverpool. Liverpool was at the ninth position compared with arsenal that is still consistent and it's still at the top position till now.
I trust arsenal for this match rather than liverpool. The different thing when mane was still playing for liverpool.

Looking forward with Liverpool still inconsistent performance in this season won 2 of 7 games seems not in the top level and likely Arsenal most confidence after last winning on North London Derby against with Tottenham Hotspur. Actually Arsenal have almost impressive record until 8 games in Primer League except losing from Manchester United only in this season and left 7 won of 8 games. I think Arsenal have chance keep going on good record in this Primer League season against with Liverpool on next match.

Liverpool bad started in this season and make have drop to 9th standing position awhile, if can't recovery and return to top performance actually Liverpool can loss their chance finish on top fourth standing position at Primer League. I want see Liverpool can defeat Arsenal on next match and wake up get dominance back in primer league.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on October 05, 2022, 09:19:08 AM

Yes, Arsenal must have a winning mentality to win the Premier League. The first half of last season Arsenal performed very well, but at the end of the season they were only able to finish in fourth place. A few seasons ago Arsenal also won the half season, however they also failed to win the Premier League at the end of the season.

So far we have seen Arsenal perform very well, but they must not forget Manchester City who are ready to become the toughest rivals for Arsenal this season. Manchester City have performed exceptionally and are listed as the only team that has not lost this season. Looking at the achievements and depth of the Arsenal and Manchester City teams, I doubt Arsenal can beat Manchester City at the end of the season.

Easy players are always an innovation to win titles but there must be a strong mentality so that the squad remains stable, not only performing well in the early half of the season but at the end of the season must also be maintained, I have to see how Arsenal against other rival teams in the future whether they are able to win or not because what we are worried about is facing a Manchester city that is so strong that it can't be contained for Arsenal and in the end it will lose too considering Pep Guardiola has been a Premier League challenger in recent seasons.

How about against Liverpool next week? Arsenal must be mentally prepared now next week by becoming a big match for the second time, indeed Liverpool are still trying to continue to gain points but at least Arsenal can dominate all games so they can still survive at the start of the season.

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Manchester city is team is on a different level, when they attack they are formidable and the midfield pairing and partnership is one of the best, its as if the players have played together their whole career because of the way they connect and understand each other, look at Haaland and Kelvin D, those two have been outstanding and putting the team at advantage in every game. Liverpool seems to have lost their touch and fighting spirit this season. I wonder if they could find their rhythm again this season.

Liverpool have fallen far behind Manchester City, they are not the same team they were last season. I don't know what makes it so difficult for them to improve their performance because if we look at their squad it is not so different from the previous season, there are only the addition of a few names to the squad. Maybe this happened because their playing style could be read by the opposing team, so they became monotonous. I consider that they are not very creative in working with round circles so they are easily broken by opposing players.

It's still a mystery until now why Liverpool's performance suddenly dropped so much compared to the previous season. Whereas as you said,
the Liverpool squad has not changed much compared to the previous season. Is the impact of losing Sadio Mane very big for Liverpool, but the fact is
that since Mane left, Liverpool's performance has continued to decline. I actually still can't believe losing Mane will have a big impact, a team like
Liverpool shouldn't depend on just one player.

I believe more in your opinion, that Liverpool's playing strategy is well known by the opposing team, so the opposing team can read Liverpool's
game, so the attacks that Liverpool build are easy to read. What you say makes sense, Klopp should have changed Liverpool's playing strategy.
For 7 years Liverpool was quite successful with a 4-3-3 formation, but it looks like this season the 4-3-3 formation is easy for opposing players
to read, meaning it's time for Klopp to replace Liverpool's playing strategy with a new one, if Klopp want Liverpool to get back to their best.

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Literally, Erling Harland Is an Angel to Manchester City since his arrival, He has been giving his best.
Guardiola actually have tried his best in terms of trying to win the Champions League Trophy for City, but seem luck is not by his side. With the signing of Haland this and his goal scoring ability could change things for them, coupled with other quality players already there in City , like Foden , De Bruyne and just to mention a few, This seasons Champions League Trophy could be theirs if they keep the pace.

That guy is more than what you think
I refer him as a mini god, he is another Zlatan Ibrahimovic at man City
He is a very complete player and also a lucky one for having such players around him

Anyone will praise Haaland's performances since joining Manchester City, Haaland's sharpness is unquestionable, he has scored a hat-trick three times in the Premier League. Three goals scored against Manchester United made Haaland the club's top scorer and also the Premier League, so far Haaland has scored 17 goals in just 11 appearances in all competitions.

Haaland has incredible goal-scoring instincts, his qualities as a centre-forward have made it easier for Manchester City to win. Haaland has been a prince in the Manchester City squad, he achieved it in a very short time, it is very difficult for any other player to achieve what Haaland has achieved during his time at Manchester City.

In April, Haaland made the decision to join Man City, and he says he is very happy with the choice he made. Now that Haaland has joined Man City, he is unstoppable. There is no doubt that Haaland is a good player, but the Man City team is carrying him along. Nevertheless, Haaland deserves credit for receiving those passes in the right timing and position, and converting them. It's amazing how well they work together. It's amazing how dominant they are. Throughout the game, they played well. Now we're going to see more goals. Taking football to a new level is what he does. I agree that Mbappe and any other young player will be overshadowed by this guy, he is the beast of the game at the moment.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on October 05, 2022, 08:29:49 AM

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Is going to be another interesting game this weekend between arsenal versus Liverpool on Sunday, I think Liverpool needs to sit up and start wining games and their is no better place to start than with an inform arsenal team, I watch Liverpool game last night in the champions League and can be honest here they are far below their standard even if they won, Salah doesn't not have that fearing presence in him anymore, Robertson and Arnold who are key players of how Liverpool wants to play are now playing like an average players right now, so is affecting them real bad an another obvious fact is that klopp is missing sadio Mane whether he admits it or not.

It is not an easy task for Jurgen Klopp's children to be able to win easily in this match. Now Arsenal's chances of winning the game are wide open. Arsenal will play their home game in this match and thus they have high motivation to win the game as well as to maintain their position in the table. Liverpool are full of punches lately, lucky they can win in the Champions League.

Indeed Liverpool are in bad shape at the moment and they are having a hard time getting a win in every game they play, but I don't think arsenal will be able to easily get 3 points from liverpool even though the current condition of the two is inversely proportional, the match between Arsenal and Liverpool it's like the arsenal match against Manchester united some time ago, at that time Manchester United was in a bad performance while Arsenal was in an Onfire condition but in reality...?
Arsenal is indeed in a positive trend in the league but what we need to remember is the arsenal old disease that often recurs when their have to face big teams even if that the team is in a slump.

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Quote from: D-law on October 05, 2022, 09:47:18 AM

Quote from: Franctoshi on October 05, 2022, 08:52:54 AM

Literally, Erling Harland Is an Angel to Manchester City since his arrival, He has been giving his best.
Guardiola actually have tried his best in terms of trying to win the Champions League Trophy for City, but seem luck is not by his side. With the signing of Haland this and his goal scoring ability could change things for them, coupled with other quality players already there in City , like Foden , De Bruyne and just to mention a few, This seasons Champions League Trophy could be theirs if they keep the pace.

That guy is more than what you think
I refer him as a mini god, he is another Zlatan Ibrahimovic at man City
He is a very complete player and also a lucky one for having such players around him

Anyone will praise Haaland's performances since joining Manchester City, Haaland's sharpness is unquestionable, he has scored a hat-trick three times in the Premier League. Three goals scored against Manchester United made Haaland the club's top scorer and also the Premier League, so far Haaland has scored 17 goals in just 11 appearances in all competitions.

Haaland has incredible goal-scoring instincts, his qualities as a centre-forward have made it easier for Manchester City to win. Haaland has been a prince in the Manchester City squad, he achieved it in a very short time, it is very difficult for any other player to achieve what Haaland has achieved during his time at Manchester City.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on October 05, 2022, 09:44:53 AM

Manchester city is team is on a different level, when they attack they are formidable and the midfield pairing and partnership is one of the best, its as if the players have played together their whole career because of the way they connect and understand each other, look at Haaland and Kelvin D, those two have been outstanding and putting the team at advantage in every game. Liverpool seems to have lost their touch and fighting spirit this season. I wonder if they could find their rhythm again this season.

Liverpool have fallen far behind Manchester City, they are not the same team they were last season. I don't know what makes it so difficult for them to improve their performance because if we look at their squad it is not so different from the previous season, there are only the addition of a few names to the squad. Maybe this happened because their playing style could be read by the opposing team, so they became monotonous. I consider that they are not very creative in working with round circles so they are easily broken by opposing players.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 05, 2022, 07:33:19 AM

Is going to be another interesting game this weekend between arsenal versus Liverpool on Sunday, I think Liverpool needs to sit up and start wining games and their is no better place to start than with an inform arsenal team, I watch Liverpool game last night in the champions League and can be honest here they are far below their standard even if they won, Salah doesn't not have that fearing presence in him anymore, Robertson and Arnold who are key players of how Liverpool wants to play are now playing like an average players right now, so is affecting them real bad an another obvious fact is that klopp is missing sadio Mane whether he admits it or not.

I remember when people said sadio mane meant nothing. The club can always get its success without him but the fact was actually saying the opposite thing about that. That's very disappointed for the fans to see that liverpool was let its golden player after salah going out from the club rather than try to make him stay in the club. Bayern was buying him with fair price. This time liverpool seems difficult to find another sadio mane

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Quote from: Boristhecat on October 05, 2022, 08:35:29 AM

Signing Haaland really changed things, but maybe it's not as good for Guardiola as it seems. After all, now if Manchester City does not win the Champions League again, but already with Haaland, the management may lose patience and try next season not to change the squad, but to replace the coach. And judging by the interview that Guardiola gave at the beginning of the season where he talked about his future extension or non-renewal of the contract with Manchester City, he understands this.

Literally, Erling Harland Is an Angel to Manchester City since his arrival, He has been giving his best.
Guardiola actually have tried his best in terms of trying to win the Champions League Trophy for City, but seem luck is not by his side. With the signing of Haland this and his goal scoring ability could change things for them, coupled with other quality players already there in City , like Foden , De Bruyne and just to mention a few, This seasons Champions League Trophy could be theirs if they keep the pace.

That guy is more than what you think
I refer him as a mini god, he is another Zlatan Ibrahimovic at man City
He is a very complete player and also a lucky one for having such players around him

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Manchester city is team is on a different level, when they attack they are formidable and the midfield pairing and partnership is one of the best, its as if the players have played together their whole career because of the way they connect and understand each other, look at Haaland and Kelvin D, those two have been outstanding and putting the team at advantage in every game. Liverpool seems to have lost their touch and fighting spirit this season. I wonder if they could find their rhythm again this season.

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Much favorite for the weekend against Liverpool, I hope they pump Liverpool, they have had a good start consistency is all that matters now, they drop points drastically during December/January but if they can keep up with those points then they can win the League. But would Pep Guardiola let em ? Gradually turning the league into a farmers League.. Cry

Arsenal can't win the premier league, this isn't the first season of arsenal making waves at the beginning of the season. Remember last season they had all the advantage to finish top 4 but what happened, they bottled it. Arsenal are filled with young players and a young management. They don't have the experience needed to win the premier league. Pep is just using money to destroy the league. There's nothing like he's turning the league to a framers league. Has Pep done close to what Air Alex Ferguson did during his time as manager of Manchester United? Nope and if then the premier league wasn't called a farmers league it shouldn't now.

Manchester city are always the favorite yet they get beaten by small teams every now and then, the title isn't won with huge margin, they most time have another team chasing them to the title. Unlike other league that the leading club is already declared a champion with 5/10 games left to play. Haaland would do exactly what he's doing now in any other league if he has the type of quality feeding him the balls as he's currently enjoying with Manchester city.

Yes, Arsenal must have a winning mentality to win the Premier League. The first half of last season Arsenal performed very well, but at the end of the season they were only able to finish in fourth place. A few seasons ago Arsenal also won the half season, however they also failed to win the Premier League at the end of the season.

So far we have seen Arsenal perform very well, but they must not forget Manchester City who are ready to become the toughest rivals for Arsenal this season. Manchester City have performed exceptionally and are listed as the only team that has not lost this season. Looking at the achievements and depth of the Arsenal and Manchester City teams, I doubt Arsenal can beat Manchester City at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 05, 2022, 08:02:57 AM

Leicester City are a good team and for some seasons now they have increased the competition in the league so having them end up relegated this season won't be a nice finish. I would love them to continue their stay in the league. Hopefully they will pick up and get back their momentum in the next games to come.

I hope their first win in week 8 will be the momentum for their comeback in the next match. New hope will always arise when they can get full points in the match. Indeed, in their match last week against a club that was equally slumped and managed to score 4 goals in that match. But it was a very valuable result for them because they had just reached max points. In the next match they will face Bournemouth who are ranked 13th. They must be able to win this match to get out of the relegation zone.

Quote from: Boristhecat on October 05, 2022, 08:35:29 AM

Signing Haaland really changed things, but maybe it's not as good for Guardiola as it seems. After all, now if Manchester City does not win the Champions League again, but already with Haaland, the management may lose patience and try next season not to change the squad, but to replace the coach. And judging by the interview that Guardiola gave at the beginning of the season where he talked about his future extension or non-renewal of the contract with Manchester City, he understands this.

It would be nice for Manchester City to keep Pep Guardiola to stay with them and extend his contract. Because he has created a solid squad and it would be a shame if they had to part when things were going well. Maybe it's true, the Champions League is the reason for Manchester City's management, but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will present it if he is believed to be in charge of Manchester City longer. He still deserves to be given a chance, because if they insist on changing coaches on the grounds of the Champions League trophy there is no guarantee with a new coach they will get it, in fact I think it will destroy the chemistry that has been created at Manchester City.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on October 05, 2022, 08:29:49 AM

It is not an easy task for Jurgen Klopp's children to be able to win easily in this match. Now Arsenal's chances of winning the game are wide open. Arsenal will play their home game in this match and thus they have high motivation to win the game as well as to maintain their position in the table. Liverpool are full of punches lately, lucky they can win in the Champions League.

I checked on the bookies, the odds for both clubs are draw, Arsenal odds @2.50 while Liverpool odds @2.55

I don't understand why Arsenal isn't heavy favorited here, they're currently become top 1 in Premier League and Liverpool is still on 10th position. I wouldn't say Liverpool is lucky to win in Champions League, they're deserve to won because they're matched against Rangers aka weak club.

But Arsenal here is strong and it will played on Arsenal's home, so Arsenal is high likely to win and the odds are worth to bet.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on October 05, 2022, 08:35:29 AM

Signing Haaland really changed things, but maybe it's not as good for Guardiola as it seems. After all, now if Manchester City does not win the Champions League again, but already with Haaland, the management may lose patience and try next season not to change the squad, but to replace the coach. And judging by the interview that Guardiola gave at the beginning of the season where he talked about his future extension or non-renewal of the contract with Manchester City, he understands this.

Literally, Erling Harland Is an Angel to Manchester City since his arrival, He has been giving his best.
Guardiola actually have tried his best in terms of trying to win the Champions League Trophy for City, but seem luck is not by his side. With the signing of Haland this and his goal scoring ability could change things for them, coupled with other quality players already there in City , like Foden , De Bruyne and just to mention a few, This seasons Champions League Trophy could be theirs if they keep the pace.

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