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Quote from: Ahli38 on October 03, 2022, 01:31:38 AM

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despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.

Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.

The joining of Malacia and Martinez to Man United, it's not really a solution for Man United's defense because when they lost against Man City, we could see how vulnerable Man United's defense was (but it's still better than when Maguire was playing). If Man United has a target to get into the top 4, then Ten Hag should really rack his brains to fix the hole because it could be a weakness if not resolved quickly. Regardless of those conditions, Man United has a much better mentality than last season because when they lost 6-1 to Man City they still have efforts to minimize their loss.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on October 03, 2022, 01:46:46 AM

Manchester United's defense was unable to stop Manchester City's attack. Although I had Manchester City ahead in yesterday's game, I did not expect Manchester United to lose like this. But Manchester United's 3 goals in the second half made me very happy.

How will you even think that Manchester City would lose to Manchester United. Manchester United is just coming up to be a strong team this season, they are still coming up and not yet strong like Manchester City. Manchester City is strong team thar have build up their strength longtime ago.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 03, 2022, 04:06:21 AM

I also hope that Manchester United players don't get affected very deeply this much easily. As far as I can see, their next game is an away one against Everton. This is another tough game for them honestly. Because Everton are doing better on the recent weeks. They haven't lost a game for six weeks and they are on a two-game winning streak as well. As the game is in Goodison Park it is like an extra difficulty for the Red Devils.

If Erik ten Hag make the right choices for this game they can still win of course. They are stronger on paper in the end. One game shouldn't change everything at once.

Everton defenders, midfielders and goalkeeper are just too good, that's the reason why Everton are mostly draw, not lose. With the leaving of Richarlison, Everton striker are sucks and can't score any goals. James Tarkowski, Alex Iwobi and Jordan Pickford are 3 members who played very good in Everton, maybe in the next season few big clubs are taking consideration to sign them.

Though the odds are favor on Manchester United, by I think the match will be draw or Everton will win by 1 goal. I would bet Everton or draw since the odds are still juicy.

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Liverpol gets draw against brighton. Brighton is also very strong team at this moment. that proves that if salah is not on fire anymore. The gone of sadio mane has been giving a big change to the club. It seems like that liverpool is not so impressive as when sadio mane was playing for this club. that's very sad to see that liverpool was not able to get full points against brighton this is very disappointed with the team like liverpool. So many great players in the club didn't even enough to bring a win to the team.
It seems like that salah was nothing. Liverpool may fall to the middle of classement.

Again we see Liverpool as if something is lacking, both in terms of sharpness and Moh Salah who does not have a suitable attacking partner. A draw should not have been obtained by Liverpool because this was the umpteenth time Liverpool was stuck and only stagnant in the standings. This sounds a bit disturbing to me Liverpool will face Arsenal next week, with their current form can they really win from Arsenal?

I also think the same as you, for me Liverpool are either very asleep or I really don't know what happens to the players who are slowing down or maybe they all went on a rampage, I think it's very fashionable that the big teams go through very difficult situations and almost at the same time, not only here, in the other leagues also very strong and favorite teams are having a crisis, I don't know if it's the proximity of the World Cup or something similar, but something is happening and they must correct it now.

Regarding the Liverpool-Arsenal game, I think Salah has to wake up, he is the only one who has the spirit to do it and infect his teammates.

Considering that this happened right after a long break, I can imagine anvils falling on us when we get into the tight schedule after the World Cup and more players start dropping like flies.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 03, 2022, 04:06:21 AM

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I hope they bounce back immediately though. Great game from Manchester City and Pep Guardiola. But I honestly hope they don't win the Premier League once again. It sucks totally! Sad

I also hope that Manchester United players don't get affected very deeply this much easily. As far as I can see, their next game is an away one against Everton. This is another tough game for them honestly. Because Everton are doing better on the recent weeks. They haven't lost a game for six weeks and they are on a two-game winning streak as well. As the game is in Goodison Park it is like an extra difficulty for the Red Devils.

If Erik ten Hag make the right choices for this game they can still win of course. They are stronger on paper in the end. One game shouldn't change everything at once.

I would have complained much, and probably be sceptical of the next match if Man U did not make any goal, but they did, it's football, and they should know how to perform better. They contested with a better club where Haaland has been performing unexpectedly well, and 6-3, does not mean much to me than the 3 points it counts to the Man City. It is Man U that needs to buckle up and fight better as Everton cannot be as brilliant as Man City, so I don't think there is anything to demoralize Man U as I'm concerned.

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I understand why Erik ten Hag didn't prefer Ronaldo in the starting eleven. It was because of Rashford's recent form as he made a great impression in the Arsenal game as well. But I really don't get why he insists on not choosing Casemiro for the midfield at the beginning. He entered the game in the 60th minute this time.

He does not prioritize Ronaldo in the squad but Ronaldo is responsible for hks decreasing performance too. He would have played better if he had not try to leave in summer. He was not joined pre-season training and worse his mind was not ready for the new season. When he realized that he has to stay in Manchester United, it is just too late to get back training and get his body ready.

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Manchester United are paying so much money for his salary and he has been brought here to strengthen the midfield. But Erik ten Hag doesn't look like he is willing to give him bigger chances. If he continues to do this then this transfer will be a waste of money.

His too high salary is main barrier why other clubs rejected to take him. Ronaldo will not sign a new contract with Manchester United as we all see that they are still in bad organization as well as bad results. It is not convincible enough to ask Ronaldo continues with them.

From Manchester United and Ten Hag sides, I also don't see why they have to keep Ronaldo too. They want another start of another project without Ronaldo but with more younger players.

Maybe Ronaldo brought Manchester United the attention in the media, the tickets since he's a well known player, popular around the world? But yeah, I agree with your points. Since the start of this Premier League, ten Hag many times has stated that he intends to major revamp Manchester United. Many have guessed there is no Ronaldo's place in his plan. Still put us wonder why not sell Ronaldo when Cheasel offered a transfer deal for him.
Anyways, I'm thinking this loss to Manchester City shows how much the power gap between Manchester United. Well, ain't a shame if you only lose to the strongest club in the Premier League.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 02, 2022, 09:22:23 PM

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I hope they bounce back immediately though. Great game from Manchester City and Pep Guardiola. But I honestly hope they don't win the Premier League once again. It sucks totally! Sad

I also hope that Manchester United players don't get affected very deeply this much easily. As far as I can see, their next game is an away one against Everton. This is another tough game for them honestly. Because Everton are doing better on the recent weeks. They haven't lost a game for six weeks and they are on a two-game winning streak as well. As the game is in Goodison Park it is like an extra difficulty for the Red Devils.

If Erik ten Hag make the right choices for this game they can still win of course. They are stronger on paper in the end. One game shouldn't change everything at once.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 02, 2022, 09:24:14 PM

In fact we have to realize that Ronaldo has been beaten by age productivity has dropped drastically and maybe in 3 years he will retire
For now nothing can stop Manchester City in the Premier League and Arsenal are the most obvious competitors yes at least before the middle of the season.

Apart from age, there are other things that can affect Ronaldo performance, maybe the lack of playing minutes unlike last season he was always in the line-up every game but this season he rarely got the opportunity to play in the early minutes. This may have been triggered by his reaction when this summer window wanted to leave Manchester United. I don't know how disappointed Ronaldo was with the crushing defeat of Manchester City, of course he was very disappointed with this result. maybe he will be able to play until the age of 40 and maybe he will move to another club in this winter window. maybe i agree with you arsenal and manchester city are by far the strongest team winning the title this season if we look at their performance so far in the 8 matches they have played.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 03, 2022, 03:27:48 AM

Tonight is probably Rodgers's last chance to save his Leicester job. Nobody thought they would be bottom of the table after 7 games - they have too much quality for that.

The bookies are offering really attractive odds for a win - I'll be going for handicap. Nottingham is one of the worst teams in the league and Leicester will use this game to kickstart their season.

This is a very funny match because both of them are at the bottom of the sequence and this is met like a match without a goal because of course there is no hope of getting a win, but if both of them can get a win then they will get additional points and there is little hope to get back up, in the previous match Leicaster was defeated by Nottm Forest up to 4-1 hopefully it won't happen again.

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Tonight is probably Rodgers's last chance to save his Leicester job. Nobody thought they would be bottom of the table after 7 games - they have too much quality for that.

The bookies are offering really attractive odds for a win - I'll be going for handicap. Nottingham is one of the worst teams in the league and Leicester will use this game to kickstart their season.

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Another unpredictable result has just happened yesterday that Fulham has totally failed at their home ground that they have been crushed by Newcastle with scores 4-1 and apparently red card from Fulham player De Cordova-Reid on early minutes makes Fulham has lost their rhythm because after this incident Newcastle very comfortable to control the game and during the match Fulham cannot develop their strategy because on that match Fulham only can able to get 1 shot on goals

Fulham's 4:1 defeat to Newcastle came as a surprise to me, I never expected Fulham to concede 4 goals to Newcastle even though they got a red card. Fulham have been a tough nut to crack this season, I can remember the game against Arsenal how well they played and were a tough opponent for Arsenal even though Arsenal managed a win in that game. Kudos to Newcastle for been able to take advantage of Fulham's loss of one player.

It came as a surprise most probably to anyone else,Fulham has been having some relatively good results and they lost to Arsenal lately which is leading the table so no one would expect them to concede 4 goals to a team like Newcastle which the majority of their games has scored one or two goals as a maximum.That is in part because of Fulham losing a player but mostly is because that is the magic of Premier League,you cannot relate to Premier League if you don't see surprise results like this one.

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Quote from: bering on October 03, 2022, 01:46:17 AM

I almost forgot there is one more match for week 8 and this between Leicester vs Nottingham Forest and these teams are still fight to avoid relegated zone especially Leicester the fans still hopes they will get their first winning from this match but Nottingham Forest also had same mission because they do not want return to championship division however for this match this indeed quite risky but i would like to pick Leicester win and i wish they can playing well at their home ground and the odds for Leicester is @1.78

Yes they are fighting to get out of the relegation zone in this match. Both clubs are 19th and 20th in the standings. Both clubs are in a slump, even Leichester City without a win until the last week. Honestly it's hard for me to predict who will win this match because both of them have poor performance. Maybe I will avoid betting on this match and will not try to take the risk. I'll wait next week to get back to betting on the game.

Quote from: kotwica666 on October 03, 2022, 01:46:46 AM

Manchester United's defense was unable to stop Manchester City's attack. Although I had Manchester City ahead in yesterday's game, I did not expect Manchester United to lose like this. But Manchester United's 3 goals in the second half made me very happy.

Manchester City's front line is too strong for Manchester United players to hold. Even the duet of Martinez and Varane who played well in the previous match was not able to cover every movement of the opposing player. Left behind by 4 goals in the first half is very difficult to catch, ironically they can still concede in the second half which makes the goal distance even further.
Oh yes, I saw a joke on one of the social media that Manchester United only lost on aggregate, because they lost in the first half with a score of 4-0, and in the second half they (Manchester United) won by a score of 2-3. Laugh out loud. It really made me laugh.

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Quote from: bering on October 02, 2022, 01:50:18 AM

Another unpredictable result has just happened yesterday that Fulham has totally failed at their home ground that they have been crushed by Newcastle with scores 4-1 and apparently red card from Fulham player De Cordova-Reid on early minutes makes Fulham has lost their rhythm because after this incident Newcastle very comfortable to control the game and during the match Fulham cannot develop their strategy because on that match Fulham only can able to get 1 shot on goals

Fulham's 4:1 defeat to Newcastle came as a surprise to me, I never expected Fulham to concede 4 goals to Newcastle even though they got a red card. Fulham have been a tough nut to crack this season, I can remember the game against Arsenal how well they played and were a tough opponent for Arsenal even though Arsenal managed a win in that game. Kudos to Newcastle for been able to take advantage of Fulham's loss of one player.

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Mo Salah's contributions this season have dropped drastically, I can remember how well his partnership with Mane made the team so strong and fierce and it looks likely that the weight of the team and attacking strength now rest of his shoulders. Whether or not people agree with this the truth remains that Mane was a massive boost to Salah performance now the new signings have to fill in and put in their best to improve the team.

Losing his partner means losing a half from his performance. that means sadio mane was the best partner for him but a big mistake by liverpool to let him gone to the another club like bayern. that was also affecting the performance from salah too.
it's impossible to bring back mane to the liverpool agian caused by bayern will be rejecting any offer for him. I do agree with it. It can be seen easily from the performance from salah.
It was decreasing drastically since sadio was leaving from the club

yep, if we compare the wrong performance from last season then we see a drastic decline in him, nunez is not a player who can replace mane at liverpool, so far nunez still can't get along with liverpool players.

Mane has different play style compared with nunez and salah being so confidence to play with sadio mane rather than nunez. The chemistry between salah and mane is far better. I meant salah can be a good partner for mane. I hope that liverpool will not show the same performance like that again. that's really hurt to see that the team can't get full points while its competitors like manchester city and arsenal are getting full points from defeating MU and totenham in this week. This must become a bad week for liverpool.
The champion league match will come soon. I hope liverpool can prepare its team for that match

You are absolutely right. Salah and Sadio Mane had a kind of good chemistry. Both of them could score very well. Now Sadio Mane has had quite an impact on the team's attack after leaving Liverpool. Salah has yet to choose his right teammate. Also in this direction Sadio Mane could not adapt himself now at Bayern Munich.

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Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.

Manchester United's defense was unable to stop Manchester City's attack. Although I had Manchester City ahead in yesterday's game, I did not expect Manchester United to lose like this. But Manchester United's 3 goals in the second half made me very happy.

yeah i think so too. I didn't even think there would be so many goals in that game. 9 goals in one game is incredible. and it did entertain us a little bit who watched. and I didn't think that in the first half Manchester City could score 4 goals in a relatively close time. but what was more beyond my expectations was that MU's game itself got better in the second half. and can score 3 goals. although Manchester city also scored 2 goals in the second half. but even if MU lose but I also think it's a great match.

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despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.

Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.

Manchester United's defense was unable to stop Manchester City's attack. Although I had Manchester City ahead in yesterday's game, I did not expect Manchester United to lose like this. But Manchester United's 3 goals in the second half made me very happy.

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I almost forgot there is one more match for week 8 and this between Leicester vs Nottingham Forest and these teams are still fight to avoid relegated zone especially Leicester the fans still hopes they will get their first winning from this match but Nottingham Forest also had same mission because they do not want return to championship division however for this match this indeed quite risky but i would like to pick Leicester win and i wish they can playing well at their home ground and the odds for Leicester is @1.78

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Quote from: G_Besar on October 03, 2022, 01:03:22 AM

Manchester United must recognize the might of Manchester City. The nine goals that were created in this match proved Man City's toughness as a champion team. Conceding four goals in the first half was a crushing blow for the Red Devils. And a very striking final score of course tarnished MU's face. The match also showed United's weakness and the problems of the players. The MU squad seemed to lack fighting power on the field, and even seemed to give up easily. This mentality is considered not good enough. The low work ethic of the players made the coach's tactics unable to work, Erik ten Haag was even more depressed.

You just pointed out this current Manchester United biggest problem "lack of spirit to fight back" I was just angry seeing players throwing there hands up anytime they concede a goal instead of fighting more for the ball. Sancho as a player was woeful yesterday with Bruno and Rashford they were just strolling on the field piling more pressure on the defence. And for Ten Hag I think he got it wrong by playing just one DM yesterday a McTomminay and Casmiro double pivot yesterday will have helped to disconnect man city's ball play in the midfield. The coach still has a lot to learn but with time he will adapt even Pep didn't had it easy on his first Premier league season

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 02, 2022, 10:13:00 PM

despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.

Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.

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Quote from: naira on October 02, 2022, 11:17:46 PM

Like it or not, Manchester United has a lot to learn from Manchester City. Especially Ten Hag, where Erik Ten Hag was too confident in the inaugural Manchester Derby. Just look at Erik Ten Hag maintaining the composition of the players as they did against Liverpool and Arsenal, but Manchester City is not both because this team has a much more aggressive performance. Pay attention to the midfield that Pep Guardiola's composition is really so easy and free to penetrate Manchester United defense both from the left wing and right wing.

Erik Ten Hag must learn from Ancelotti, where the game that Ancelotti uses to suppress Pep Guardiola's strategy is a reactive football composition, not playing openly in the first half. As a result in the first half Manchester United had to receive 4 goals, we saw in the second half they were able to provide resistance after the entry of Casemiro, Marshall, and Fred who actually made a slight change. Ten Hag should have realized the composition of the second half had to be applied in the first half and maybe the result wouldn't be as bad as this.

This match is an important lesson for Erik Ten Hag going forward. Just imagine, there are many weaknesses that occur, especially in the first round. relying solely on Marcus Rashford, was not enough to match the strength of the home team who were ON FIRE. as a result, Man City broke into Man United quite easily.
De Gea had made a save, but there was little he could do to prevent City's goals.
Defensively, the Red Devils' form was a complete mess, but the worst thing was, Diogo Dalot, as well as the attacking midfielders. Bruno Fernandes, played ineffective, both when he had the ball or not.
As a result, their game was not productive, especially in the first half. It is important for Ten Hag, that his squad really has many shortcomings that must be addressed in the future.

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