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Quote from: hd49728 on September 07, 2022, 09:44:08 AM

Chelsea has history of impatient with coaches and Tuchel is only another victim of Chelsea. Tuchel with his career is a good coach and he has done great things in Chelsea. Without Tuchel I imagined Chelsea would have not won their second Champions League.

I see in the past season, Tuchel and Chelsea had a very bad season and very first matches in this season are just too bad. Moreover the outstanding performance of Manchester City means Chelsea is falling too far from City on the table. All of these cause the sack of Tuchel.

Chelsea started the league really bad this year. I am not surprised that such a decision was made after yesterday's defeat to Dinamo Zagreb. Actually, he was a good coach and a valuable name for the team, but sometimes your performance is not enough, so it may have been good for him to leave the team.
A fresh start will be good for everyone. A team that we thought would be champions looks pretty unsuccessful right now

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Sacking coaches isn't a good record, Roman Abramovich was guilty of that, I didn't think Todd Boehly would follow the same footsteps as his predecessor. I feel this is the wrong time to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea spent money signing players for this same coach. They should have let him go during the break, Tuchel has lost only 16 matches out of 100. He has a good record, I don't think he has done anything bad. He's had a fantastic run in this short period of time.

A team can't win all the time, remember how Liverpool had a slump after an enchanting season, but no one fired Klopp. Tuchel is a great coach, although he is still young, he has already proven that he can win with the Champions League team, this is an excellent result. There is no need to put pressure on him, new players have come to the team, they need time to adapt, dismissing Tuchel would be a big mistake.

It seems Todd Boehly is scarier than Roman Abramovich, because as far as I can remember Roman Abramovich would still give their failing coach time to finally choose to fire him. But what Todd Boehly did with Tuchel was a decision that I thought was unreasonable and very bad, because Chelsea I can say is good because they have only lost a few games. Basically, Tuchel still needs a little more time to make Aubameyang have a good chemistry at Chelsea, at least Todd Boehly should appreciate Tuchel who has given the trophy to Chelsea quickly. Where at that time the Chelsea situation was chaotic and Tuchel managed to resurrect Chelsea and won the Champions League title and worse, when the Roman Abramovich case was the impact of the Russian war, in fact Tuchel still gave the best for Chelsea. But Todd Boehly doesn't seem to have considered the matter, quite unhappy about this news.

It seems like Thomas Tuchel didn't have a great relationship with the owner of the club. I think Tuchel lost interest in Chelsea after the takeover. He doesn't have synergy with the players, Chelsea has a good squad but we don't get to see these players play at the level we expect. Tuchel mistake was using the same tactics that do not heed results. He keeps playing players out of their positions. Todd Boehly made a harsh decision, if he had been given Tuchel more time he would have done better.

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Sacking coaches isn't a good record, Roman Abramovich was guilty of that, I didn't think Todd Boehly would follow the same footsteps as his predecessor. I feel this is the wrong time to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea spent money signing players for this same coach. They should have let him go during the break, Tuchel has lost only 16 matches out of 100. He has a good record, I don't think he has done anything bad. He's had a fantastic run in this short period of time.

A team can't win all the time, remember how Liverpool had a slump after an enchanting season, but no one fired Klopp. Tuchel is a great coach, although he is still young, he has already proven that he can win with the Champions League team, this is an excellent result. There is no need to put pressure on him, new players have come to the team, they need time to adapt, dismissing Tuchel would be a big mistake.

It seems Todd Boehly is scarier than Roman Abramovich, because as far as I can remember Roman Abramovich would still give their failing coach time to finally choose to fire him. But what Todd Boehly did with Tuchel was a decision that I thought was unreasonable and very bad, because Chelsea I can say is good because they have only lost a few games. Basically, Tuchel still needs a little more time to make Aubameyang have a good chemistry at Chelsea, at least Todd Boehly should appreciate Tuchel who has given the trophy to Chelsea quickly. Where at that time the Chelsea situation was chaotic and Tuchel managed to resurrect Chelsea and won the Champions League title and worse, when the Roman Abramovich case was the impact of the Russian war, in fact Tuchel still gave the best for Chelsea. But Todd Boehly doesn't seem to have considered the matter, quite unhappy about this news.

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The problem is that it is still too early, I think, to sack the coach, especially in this case he has only equipped a few players in the attack line so this is a hasty decision for the higher-ups.
Now that he's gone from Chelsea is there really a coach that is being talked about right now to make them a lot better? Because with this, apart from them having to improve their performance, they also have to mess around with finding a new coach.

True, there is no guarantee with a new coach will improve things, in fact I think it will get things out of hand. The problem is on the side of the players, as we now know Chelsea have almost failed to sign the players they wanted. That's what makes it difficult for the coach to implement the scheme that has been prepared.

At the moment Chelsea's line-up is largely Tuchel's Plan and with him leaving and being replaced by another coach will this line-up be the same as expected.
Actually, in this case, if we look at Todd who is more cruel than the Abramovich era, I think because if we look at the current conditions Tuchel can actually still train and mix compositions, but the higher-ups are not very patient in this matter.

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Quote from: salad daging on September 07, 2022, 09:21:32 AM

It was Chelsea's first target for Graham Potter as the number one replacement despite the names of other candidates but Zinedine Zidane seems to be more difficult to get unless he waits longer and is able to persuade him to want to.
It's true that Chelsea's match schedule will inevitably have to get a new coach but I think Graham Potter they led Brigthon at the start of the season very well, but with Chelsea being able to sign him I think he can put Chelsea even better than Tuchel.

Are names like Pochettino on the Chelsea target list? I think he deserves a chance having previously been quite capable of dealing with Tottenham and PSG. But what is clear is that Pochettino has not been able to give the Champions League title to the team he coached other than winning the Ligue 1 title with PSG.

Zidane may not be going to England to coach Chelsea, but I don't know if he's willing to accept an offer even though he wasn't interested in accepting offers from Manchester United and PSG. If Zidane wants to, I think it will be very good for Chelsea.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 07, 2022, 11:10:46 AM

Sacking coaches isn't a good record, Roman Abramovich was guilty of that, I didn't think Todd Boehly would follow the same footsteps as his predecessor. I feel this is the wrong time to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea spent money signing players for this same coach. They should have let him go during the break, Tuchel has lost only 16 matches out of 100. He has a good record, I don't think he has done anything bad. He's had a fantastic run in this short period of time.

A team can't win all the time, remember how Liverpool had a slump after an enchanting season, but no one fired Klopp. Tuchel is a great coach, although he is still young, he has already proven that he can win with the Champions League team, this is an excellent result. There is no need to put pressure on him, new players have come to the team, they need time to adapt, dismissing Tuchel would be a big mistake.

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The problem is that last season's challengers, namely Liverpool, had a bit of difficulty until the 6th week of running because their results were still not too good even though there was a clear draw that also prevented them from competing.
32 weeks remaining now although all possibilities will certainly happen but it is interesting to see Liverpool now with the current condition so if they can't improve myself I think the title race will now be dominated by a different team at this time because apart from Liverpool, Chelsea's condition is still not clear.

It is early to predict which team will annoy City this season as we mentioned previously but both Chelsea and Liverpool situations aren't reassuring..
Arsenal and Spurs are way better until now, even Brighton is performing better than them.
ManU have a catastrophic start, yet it is in front of them in the table.. Even in the CL, Chelsea failed vs Dinamo Zagreb...promising Undecided

Chelsea's condition is now exacerbated by the departure of Tuchel because it is considered unable to lift Chelsea during this season.
Obviously this is a problem for Chelsea considering that now teams like Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United are now in very good shape.
Liverpool are trying to get their form back so I think the chances of Chelsea being displaced are even bigger now.

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I didn't really saw this one coming, Thomas tuchel is not bad a coach but I think the new owners are seeing pep guadiola and kloop are far ahead of him, and he wants someone that is similar to them, someone like Conte, another issue I think is the too much complaints tuchel of complaining he is always full of excuse, before the season even start he has said he does not have players that are ready to play for the club, he is saying this after he let go of players like Lukaku and Werner so I think the new owners are tired.

Chelsea has history of impatient with coaches and Tuchel is only another victim of Chelsea. Tuchel with his career is a good coach and he has done great things in Chelsea. Without Tuchel I imagined Chelsea would have not won their second Champions League.

I see in the past season, Tuchel and Chelsea had a very bad season and very first matches in this season are just too bad. Moreover the outstanding performance of Manchester City means Chelsea is falling too far from City on the table. All of these cause the sack of Tuchel.

Sacking coaches isn't a good record, Roman Abramovich was guilty of that, I didn't think Todd Boehly would follow the same footsteps as his predecessor. I feel this is the wrong time to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea spent money signing players for this same coach. They should have let him go during the break, Tuchel has lost only 16 matches out of 100. He has a good record, I don't think he has done anything bad. He's had a fantastic run in this short period of time.

I believe Tuchel was sacked not because of merit because Chelsea are currently sixth in the EPL table, and it is unlikely that because of losing in the early stages of the Champions League, Tuchel may be released for other reasons, such as problems with the players regarding tactics.

After leaving Paris Saint-Germain, Tuchel took over as Chelsea manager in January 2021. Four months later, he led the west London club to Champions League triumph. During his time at Stamford Bridge, the 49-year-old also won the UEFA Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup.

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Chelsea's squad imbalance makes it difficult for them to develop the game. I think Tuchel should have the courage to rotate his players even though it's not the right time to do it. But otherwise he will not find what he wants. Maybe that choice can be done, because we never know that it will have a positive effect or not.

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I didn't really saw this one coming, Thomas tuchel is not bad a coach but I think the new owners are seeing pep guadiola and kloop are far ahead of him, and he wants someone that is similar to them, someone like Conte, another issue I think is the too much complaints tuchel of complaining he is always full of excuse, before the season even start he has said he does not have players that are ready to play for the club, he is saying this after he let go of players like Lukaku and Werner so I think the new owners are tired.

Chelsea has history of impatient with coaches and Tuchel is only another victim of Chelsea. Tuchel with his career is a good coach and he has done great things in Chelsea. Without Tuchel I imagined Chelsea would have not won their second Champions League.

I see in the past season, Tuchel and Chelsea had a very bad season and very first matches in this season are just too bad. Moreover the outstanding performance of Manchester City means Chelsea is falling too far from City on the table. All of these cause the sack of Tuchel.

Sacking coaches isn't a good record, Roman Abramovich was guilty of that, I didn't think Todd Boehly would follow the same footsteps as his predecessor. I feel this is the wrong time to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea spent money signing players for this same coach. They should have let him go during the break, Tuchel has lost only 16 matches out of 100. He has a good record, I don't think he has done anything bad. He's had a fantastic run in this short period of time.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 07, 2022, 10:09:49 AM

Chelsea is known as a team that is unforgiving in terms of firing coaches, since the Abramovich era and as far as I remember maybe mourinho has been the only one who has coached chelsea long enough since the club was taken over by Abramovich in 2013, compared to Abramovich, I think Todd Boehly is clear more cruel because usually Abramovich sacks the coach because of the bad performance of the coach, but now precisely Tuchel was sacked because of the poor quality of chelsea players in my opinion.
Reportedly chelsea are in talks with several coaches at the moment, zinedine zidane, pochettino, Laurent Blanc and also the brighton albion coach nyakni Graham Potter, but from all the names of the coaches above it seems Graham Potter is the favorite to become the next chelsea coach and it is also reported that Brighton has provide an avenue for chelsea to hold talks with Graham Potter.

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But on the other hand maybe he has an intuition of his own in this case because in this case it is impossible for him to fire without any plan.
Reportedly at least for now there is the name Graham Potter who is now in a positive trend with Brighton being linked with Chelsea, and there are several more names such as Pochetino, Roger Schmidt and even Joachim Low.

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What a surprising decision by Chelsea!

They weren't doing well of course but I still didn't expect them to sack Tuchel. By Aubameyang's arrival I was hoping to see them starting to get positive results in time. But they did this after the Dinamo Zagreb loss. I hope that Boehly knows what he is doing now. Pochettino is surely the main candidate for the role now. It is better to continue with a manager who knows this place and the team well for now. Pochettino is a decent manager unlike his not making Tottenham champions in the league. Hopefully he has a good chemistry with the players to improve the form in case Chelsea bring him here.

The Tuchel sacked by the new owners of the club is a quote an immediate and sudden action triggered towards him. After his defeat against Dinamo Zagreb, although blues dominated the game but that didn't mean Todd Boehly's will relieved him off his duties. Thomas Tuchel will look somewhere else for another opportunity but Chelsea without a head coach presently, and talking about Mauricio Pochettino as his replacement, I don't like him because he doesn't know how to led a club to their glory. He coach Tottenham Hotspur for years, but never lift the premier league or an essential one. Rumours has it that, Chelsea have include Brighton head coach, Graham Potter on their rader for who will manage the blues.

I can't imagine how a worse coach than Tuchel still stays at a club like Mikel Arteta last season started the season so badly, now Tuchel who has only lost a few times is immediately sacked. In fact, Tuchel is relatively new to Chelsea and the Premier League of course, but Tuchel can quickly provide trophies for Chelsea which of course Chelsea should be able to give Tuchel longer opportunities. Firing him suddenly is easy, but changing coaches quickly is not a good option and it will be difficult for a new coach to form a team with players who are basically not in his strategy. So yes, with this sacking I am personally quite sure that Chelsea will experience a more severe decline in performance.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 07, 2022, 09:50:00 AM

What a surprising decision by Chelsea!

They weren't doing well of course but I still didn't expect them to sack Tuchel. By Aubameyang's arrival I was hoping to see them starting to get positive results in time. But they did this after the Dinamo Zagreb loss. I hope that Boehly knows what he is doing now. Pochettino is surely the main candidate for the role now. It is better to continue with a manager who knows this place and the team well for now. Pochettino is a decent manager unlike his not making Tottenham champions in the league. Hopefully he has a good chemistry with the players to improve the form in case Chelsea bring him here.

The Tuchel sacked by the new owners of the club is a quote an immediate and sudden action triggered towards him. After his defeat against Dinamo Zagreb, although blues dominated the game but that didn't mean Todd Boehly's will relieved him off his duties. Thomas Tuchel will look somewhere else for another opportunity but Chelsea without a head coach presently, and talking about Mauricio Pochettino as his replacement, I don't like him because he doesn't know how to led a club to their glory. He coach Tottenham Hotspur for years, but never lift the premier league or an essential one. Rumours has it that, Chelsea have include Brighton head coach, Graham Potter on their rader for who will manage the blues.

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Chelsea has history of impatient with coaches and Tuchel is only another victim of Chelsea. Tuchel with his career is a good coach and he has done great things in Chelsea. Without Tuchel I imagined Chelsea would have not won their second Champions League.

I see in the past season, Tuchel and Chelsea had a very bad season and very first matches in this season are just too bad. Moreover the outstanding performance of Manchester City means Chelsea is falling too far from City on the table. All of these cause the sack of Tuchel.

Chelsea journey this season did not go according to plan, this season Chelsea only got 3 wins, 1 draw and 3 defeats (2 defeats in the premier league and 1 time in the UCL). Tuchel performance is in the spotlight for Chelsea poor performance this season, Tuchel is considered a failure because Chelsea performance is far from expected. Now that Chelsea is looking for a new coach to bring the Blues to winning ways, new names are starting to emerge to manage Chelsea such as Zidane, Pochettino and Graham Potter. If Zidane is willing to accept an offer from Chelsea, then the Premier League will be even more exciting, because apart from the star players who graze there, there are more and more great coaches in the Premier League.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 07, 2022, 07:55:32 AM

TUCHEL IS SACKED

Thomas Tuchel has been relieved of his job as Chelsea coach after losing to Dinamo Zagreb in their first leg of the champions League. Although Tuchel pleaded for more time to turn things around after having so much challenges in keep up with Chelsea's performance in His past games but was served a Sack letter. For now the coaching team will be in charge of Chelsea's training and fitness until a new coach is appointed. A €13m will be given to Tuchel as a sack compensation but is chelsea not making a mistake already?

Chelsea is known as a team that is unforgiving in terms of firing coaches, since the Abramovich era and as far as I remember maybe mourinho has been the only one who has coached chelsea long enough since the club was taken over by Abramovich in 2013, compared to Abramovich, I think Todd Boehly is clear more cruel because usually Abramovich sacks the coach because of the bad performance of the coach, but now precisely Tuchel was sacked because of the poor quality of chelsea players in my opinion.
Reportedly chelsea are in talks with several coaches at the moment, zinedine zidane, pochettino, Laurent Blanc and also the brighton albion coach nyakni Graham Potter, but from all the names of the coaches above it seems Graham Potter is the favorite to become the next chelsea coach and it is also reported that Brighton has provide an avenue for chelsea to hold talks with Graham Potter.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 07, 2022, 07:55:32 AM

TUCHEL IS SACKED

Thomas Tuchel has been relieved of his job as Chelsea coach after losing to Dinamo Zagreb in their first leg of the champions League. Although Tuchel pleaded for more time to turn things around after having so much challenges in keep up with Chelsea's performance in His past games but was served a Sack letter. For now the coaching team will be in charge of Chelsea's training and fitness until a new coach is appointed. A €13m will be given to Tuchel as a sack compensation but is chelsea not making a mistake already?

I just hope Chelsea's boss is not making a mistake that he may regrets it in the future. My question is after Tuchel is being sacked and the performance of chelsea becomes worse than before, this is a game that sometimes victories can't be gain at all time. Chelsea boss would have given Tuchel some time to see if he can improve the team performance. If it is because chelsea has not been doing well in previous game that made him to sack the coach, then I think that is not enough for a coach to be sacked.

Thomas Tuchel is a great coach he has given Chelsea several titles and no one can forget it it's just that this season he's unlucky
I have heard of several candidates to replace Tuchel one of them is Mauricio Pochettino does he deserve to take his place there?
He is not a new coach in the Premier League competition because previously he was part of Tottenham Hotspur.

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What a surprising decision by Chelsea!

They weren't doing well of course but I still didn't expect them to sack Tuchel. By Aubameyang's arrival I was hoping to see them starting to get positive results in time. But they did this after the Dinamo Zagreb loss. I hope that Boehly knows what he is doing now. Pochettino is surely the main candidate for the role now. It is better to continue with a manager who knows this place and the team well for now. Pochettino is a decent manager unlike his not making Tottenham champions in the league. Hopefully he has a good chemistry with the players to improve the form in case Chelsea bring him here.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 07, 2022, 08:50:29 AM

I didn't really saw this one coming, Thomas tuchel is not bad a coach but I think the new owners are seeing pep guadiola and kloop are far ahead of him, and he wants someone that is similar to them, someone like Conte, another issue I think is the too much complaints tuchel of complaining he is always full of excuse, before the season even start he has said he does not have players that are ready to play for the club, he is saying this after he let go of players like Lukaku and Werner so I think the new owners are tired.

Chelsea has history of impatient with coaches and Tuchel is only another victim of Chelsea. Tuchel with his career is a good coach and he has done great things in Chelsea. Without Tuchel I imagined Chelsea would have not won their second Champions League.

I see in the past season, Tuchel and Chelsea had a very bad season and very first matches in this season are just too bad. Moreover the outstanding performance of Manchester City means Chelsea is falling too far from City on the table. All of these cause the sack of Tuchel.

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I saw that there were already several names for the new Chelsea coach candidates, one of them was Zinedine Zidane. Is it possible that the chelsea owners will send this offer to Zidane considering he is a coach full of experience. seems worth following.

Well, as per reliable sources/reports, i think it does seem that the Brighton manager, Graham potter is the number one choice for now, of course other names have been mentioned too, like Zidane and Pochettino, but from what i read a couple of hours ago, it does seem like Graham Potter might be getting the job, but we'll see. I think the Chelsea hierarchy wouldn't want to waste too much time deliberating on a successor, they need to get someone fast, so the person can get right onto the job, they have a tough game in the coming days against Fulham, so they have to be ready.

It was Chelsea's first target for Graham Potter as the number one replacement despite the names of other candidates but Zinedine Zidane seems to be more difficult to get unless he waits longer and is able to persuade him to want to.
It's true that Chelsea's match schedule will inevitably have to get a new coach but I think Graham Potter they led Brigthon at the start of the season very well, but with Chelsea being able to sign him I think he can put Chelsea even better than Tuchel.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 07, 2022, 07:55:32 AM

TUCHEL IS SACKED

Thomas Tuchel has been relieved of his job as Chelsea coach after losing to Dinamo Zagreb in their first leg of the champions League. Although Tuchel pleaded for more time to turn things around after having so much challenges in keep up with Chelsea's performance in His past games but was served a Sack letter. For now the coaching team will be in charge of Chelsea's training and fitness until a new coach is appointed. A €13m will be given to Tuchel as a sack compensation but is chelsea not making a mistake already?

I just hope Chelsea's boss is not making a mistake that he may regrets it in the future. My question is after Tuchel is being sacked and the performance of chelsea becomes worse than before, this is a game that sometimes victories can't be gain at all time. Chelsea boss would have given Tuchel some time to see if he can improve the team performance. If it is because chelsea has not been doing well in previous game that made him to sack the coach, then I think that is not enough for a coach to be sacked.

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