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Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 05:25:12 AM

After arsenal move from higbury, arsenal seemed to lose luck at that time, I think the beginning of arsenal's destruction was when they tried to build a new stadium and it forced arsenal to become a club selling star players to cover the cost of building the emirates stadium, besides, Arsenal success at that time , cannot be separated from Arsene Wenger's tactics, but it will not run optimally, without the role of three French players Thierry Henry, Robert Pires and Patrick Vieira who at that time became the life of Arsenal game in winning the Invincibles title.

I do not believe that it has nothing to do with finances. Arsenal is still a team that makes a lot of money compared to their success rate, that is mainly because of their rich history and I understand that even from Henry times they still have fans globally which is how they are making most of their money. This is understandable but also it proves that they are not having financial crisis like Barcelona for example.

The reason why they sucked big time was the fact that they had a bad start, maybe it is due to bad summer training period, maybe it was due to some new tactic testing, maybe it was something else, or maybe roster played a bit of a role as well who knows. However, I believe that nobody that has a financial situation would start at the bottom of the league and rise as high as Arsenal did, did they suddenly found some hidden golden treasure? Of course not, it is the same team but they started to play better.

If you've ever read the book My Life in Red and White written by wenger, of course you will find a little story where the destruction began, I even read that so far arsenal had to pay in installments for the construction of the emirates stadium, and that's why all this time Arsenal always sell their star players and recruit young players who are relatively cheaper.
Yes, you could say they found a treasure called the CCFF (Covid Corporate Financing Facility) Grin

, in January Arsenal again took a debt from the Bank of England by going through the program of CCFF as much as 120 million pounds and used it for debt bills in August 2020 related to the construction of the Emirates Stadium.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 24, 2021, 03:31:07 PM

I have examined the games of the next weekend. And it looks like the most attracting game is Chelsea - Manchester United. Chelsea are the favourite team in this game without doubt. Their incredible form recently is making things easier for them in every game they play. They defeated Leicester away by 3-0 last week. And last night, they finished Juventus by 4-0 in the Champions League. Thanks to this huge form, they seem to be the closest side to win here. On the other hand, Manchester United are rejuvenating themselves after Ole's departure. They managed to beat Villarreal in the Champions League by 2-0 last night. This can help them play better against Chelsea. In this kind of big games, we don't know what will happen for certain. But of course, Chelsea should be able to win this logically.

when ole is still there then i will 100 percent side with chelsea and very sure chelsea will win.
but for now with the interim coach I see a little hope there.
although it will be very difficult for united to win this match but at least they won't lose by an embarrassing score again like in the last 2 matches

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 24, 2021, 03:31:07 PM

I have examined the games of the next weekend. And it looks like the most attracting game is Chelsea - Manchester United. Chelsea are the favourite team in this game without doubt. Their incredible form recently is making things easier for them in every game they play. They defeated Leicester away by 3-0 last week. And last night, they finished Juventus by 4-0 in the Champions League. Thanks to this huge form, they seem to be the closest side to win here. On the other hand, Manchester United are rejuvenating themselves after Ole's departure. They managed to beat Villarreal in the Champions League by 2-0 last night. This can help them play better against Chelsea. In this kind of big games, we don't know what will happen for certain. But of course, Chelsea should be able to win this logically.

Predicting who wins in this match is kind of difficult. Chelsea are perfectly doing greatly, and they won 4 and drew 1 our of their last 5 matches in the EPL. While Manchester United were able to beat Villarreal and are presently leading at their Champion League group stage standings. Winning against Villarreal will surely boost United morale. However, the match will be super tough, and are likely to end draw. But, am expecting Chelsea to win.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 05:25:12 AM

After arsenal move from higbury, arsenal seemed to lose luck at that time, I think the beginning of arsenal's destruction was when they tried to build a new stadium and it forced arsenal to become a club selling star players to cover the cost of building the emirates stadium, besides, Arsenal success at that time , cannot be separated from Arsene Wenger's tactics, but it will not run optimally, without the role of three French players Thierry Henry, Robert Pires and Patrick Vieira who at that time became the life of Arsenal game in winning the Invincibles title.

I do not believe that it has nothing to do with finances. Arsenal is still a team that makes a lot of money compared to their success rate, that is mainly because of their rich history and I understand that even from Henry times they still have fans globally which is how they are making most of their money. This is understandable but also it proves that they are not having financial crisis like Barcelona for example.

The reason why they sucked big time was the fact that they had a bad start, maybe it is due to bad summer training period, maybe it was due to some new tactic testing, maybe it was something else, or maybe roster played a bit of a role as well who knows. However, I believe that nobody that has a financial situation would start at the bottom of the league and rise as high as Arsenal did, did they suddenly found some hidden golden treasure? Of course not, it is the same team but they started to play better.

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I have examined the games of the next weekend. And it looks like the most attracting game is Chelsea - Manchester United. Chelsea are the favourite team in this game without doubt. Their incredible form recently is making things easier for them in every game they play. They defeated Leicester away by 3-0 last week. And last night, they finished Juventus by 4-0 in the Champions League. Thanks to this huge form, they seem to be the closest side to win here. On the other hand, Manchester United are rejuvenating themselves after Ole's departure. They managed to beat Villarreal in the Champions League by 2-0 last night. This can help them play better against Chelsea. In this kind of big games, we don't know what will happen for certain. But of course, Chelsea should be able to win this logically.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 24, 2021, 02:19:33 PM

Chelsea vs Man United The match I'm waiting for. Looks like it's going to be an interesting match. Curious about their performance, will they again lose by a margin of many goals?

Manchester United may still fail to win the match vs Chelsea in the Premier League despite performing well in the match vs Vilareal yesterday. Chelsea are currently at their best they will definitely have the upper hand to calm the match, but not with so many goals. After successfully ensuring that he qualified for the next round, I think Manchester United can immediately focus on the Premier League and start thinking about how they can win the match vs Chelsea. Of course it won't be easy, but it will definitely be very interesting to see how Carrick can bring his team to play better.

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Matchday 13 of 38

Sat, November 27
1. Arsenal vs Newcastle
2. Liverpol vs Southampton
3. Norwich vs Wolves
4. Crystal Palace vs Aston Villa

Sun, November 27
5. Brighton vs Leeds United
6. Brentford vs Everton
7. Man city vs West Ham
8. Leicester City vs Watford
9. Burnley vs Tottenham
10. Chelsea vs Man United

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A busy week for UCL and Europa League participants, their weekends will still be in the League. But I'm glad there's a lot of entertainment this week. Chelsea vs Man United The match I'm waiting for. Looks like it's going to be an interesting match. Curious about their performance, will they again lose by a margin of many goals?

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The inauguration game of the next match weekend is going to be Arsenal - Newcastle. This is not a very big game first of all. Arsenal are being favored highly obviously. They haven't lost any Premier League game until the loss against Liverpool by 4-0 the last time. But despite this dramatic loss, I still expect Arsenal to play fully focused in this game. Newcastle are one of the worst teams of the season so far. Maybe they are the richest club in the world now or so. But there is still some time for the next transfer window. And in this period, they continue to get terrible results. They are at the last position in the league standings with 0 win. And Arsenal defeated them by 3-0 here in their last home PL game against Newcastle. It would be shocking if Arsenal lose points in this game too.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 24, 2021, 12:51:23 PM

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Arsenal for this season does not have the potential to win a trophy, in fact its performance is increasingly declining. Faced with Newcastle should not be a tough opponent if you look at the situation in the standings Arsenal are too far from Newcastle. Back to the quality that often Newcastle gave something different, such as the resistance in the first half. Because considering Arsenal are chasing points is it possible to beat more than 4 goals will be quite difficult.

I didn't expect a team like Arsenal to fight for the title now. Their performance at the start of the season was very poor. But now they are playing well enough. However, they are not a strong enough team to win the title. Newcastle are a weak team, Arsenal will easily win against them. My prediction is that they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

Agree, at least Arsenal can show a little more victory even though before the match we know who will win the match. In general, Newcastle even though as the richest club even when the management is not right and requires a long process, especially Arsenal who already have the fame they have achieved and the trophy does not need to be discussed anymore. Well, the thing is, everything turns to progress or regress. Arsenal itself is not too championed to qualify.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 24, 2021, 01:14:05 PM

Less expectation with Arsenal performance after defeat by Liverpool with bigger score, I think eight match unbeaten on all competition before because against from Arsenal are small club, but when faced with bigger club like Liverpool we know Arsenal just lucky with previous result. Next match have chance for Arsenal get three points because faced with small club Newcastle United and I think easy to win just faced problem next two week against with Manchester United.

Arsenal were on a road to recovery and if we see their games before the Liverpool game you can see that they have developed a lot as a squad. Their defence has become strong which is a great thing and also they are starting to score and making better plays so that's a good sign. The game against Liverpool was totally one sided, Arsenal were able to hold them till some point but after a Liverpool made a break it all shattered down. And, Arsenal aren't a small, they never were. You can say not that of a solid team right now like as Liverpool but they are one of the biggest clubs in PL.

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Quote from: Alanaz on November 24, 2021, 12:57:37 PM

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Quote from: Zilon on November 24, 2021, 08:06:48 AM

Judging Arsenal based on the game the lost to Liverpool isn't ethical at all. We all know how the season was with Arsenal and how they were able to bounce back to 5th position on the table before the lost their match against Liverpool. I wasn't expecting a good performance from Arsenal from that very match all I wanted to see was an improvement and I will say Arsenal tried although the lost

The 4-0 defeat was quite painful for the team and also the fans, but I think that with this defeat at least Arteta will be able to re-evaluate every weakness in the squad, many people predict that Arsenal will be one of the team candidates for relegation this season after the defeat league streak at the start of the season, but in fact Arsenal revival began when Manchester City managed to destroy Arsenal with a landslide score, so I think now is the time for Arsenal to bounce back and forget the defeat from Liverpool.

I still appreciate arsenal's game because they were quite good in the last few games even though they did lose this match against Liverpool.
on the other hand they did lose in all aspects actually when viewed in terms of performance and attack quality.
even though arsenal is very good but against liverpool they are still not a commensurate opponent.

Less expectation with Arsenal performance after defeat by Liverpool with bigger score, I think eight match unbeaten on all competition before because against from Arsenal are small club, but when faced with bigger club like Liverpool we know Arsenal just lucky with previous result. Next match have chance for Arsenal get three points because faced with small club Newcastle United and I think easy to win just faced problem next two week against with Manchester United.

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Quote from: DU18 on November 24, 2021, 09:24:47 AM

Quote from: Zilon on November 24, 2021, 08:06:48 AM

Judging Arsenal based on the game the lost to Liverpool isn't ethical at all. We all know how the season was with Arsenal and how they were able to bounce back to 5th position on the table before the lost their match against Liverpool. I wasn't expecting a good performance from Arsenal from that very match all I wanted to see was an improvement and I will say Arsenal tried although the lost

The 4-0 defeat was quite painful for the team and also the fans, but I think that with this defeat at least Arteta will be able to re-evaluate every weakness in the squad, many people predict that Arsenal will be one of the team candidates for relegation this season after the defeat league streak at the start of the season, but in fact Arsenal revival began when Manchester City managed to destroy Arsenal with a landslide score, so I think now is the time for Arsenal to bounce back and forget the defeat from Liverpool.

I still appreciate arsenal's game because they were quite good in the last few games even though they did lose this match against Liverpool.
on the other hand they did lose in all aspects actually when viewed in terms of performance and attack quality.
even though arsenal is very good but against liverpool they are still not a commensurate opponent.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on November 24, 2021, 12:14:47 PM

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I have to say this but arsenal seems to really struggle against the big teams. They win only one with Tottenham this season but lost in almost all the other matches against big teams. And the Liverpool loss was really bad. And I have to say that Liverpool really dominated the match. They dominated almost every aspect like possession, shots taken, and accuracy. Liverpool even played a little rough that match as they conceded a lot of fouls. It will be interesting to see arsenal making a comeback after this match.

Losing to compete with big teams is one sign that Arsenal will not be able to win the title. So far I only think that Arsenal only want to qualify for the Champions League next season by staying in the top 4 of the table, but they seem to be fighting hard to make it happen. But the good thing for Arsenal and Arteta is that they are able to improve after struggling for point earlier in the season and they deserve praise from their supporters.
Arsenal's next match will probably be easy to predict because the opponent is Newcastle United. It was an easy game to win even though Newcastle have changed coach.

Arsenal for this season does not have the potential to win a trophy, in fact its performance is increasingly declining. Faced with Newcastle should not be a tough opponent if you look at the situation in the standings Arsenal are too far from Newcastle. Back to the quality that often Newcastle gave something different, such as the resistance in the first half. Because considering Arsenal are chasing points is it possible to beat more than 4 goals will be quite difficult.

I didn't expect a team like Arsenal to fight for the title now. Their performance at the start of the season was very poor. But now they are playing well enough. However, they are not a strong enough team to win the title. Newcastle are a weak team, Arsenal will easily win against them. My prediction is that they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on November 24, 2021, 12:14:47 PM

Arsenal for this season does not have the potential to win a trophy, in fact its performance is increasingly declining. Faced with Newcastle should not be a tough opponent if you look at the situation in the standings Arsenal are too far from Newcastle. Back to the quality that often Newcastle gave something different, such as the resistance in the first half. Because considering Arsenal are chasing points is it possible to beat more than 4 goals will be quite difficult.

Arsenal have proven themselve capable of competing for the best by collecting 20 point from 12 match so far. Only losing 4 time and drawing 2 have made them appear better than Manchester United this season, but that does not mean they can be complacent because there are many problem that must be solved if they want to be in the top 4 until the end of the season.

There are two things that Arteta is currently tasked with for Arsenal's players and that is, firstly, they still need a goal machine, secondly they have to fix a defense that looks weak. From 12 match Arsenal this season, they only managed to collect 13 goals, while conceding 17 goals. Obviously this should be Arteta's focus if he is to qualify for next season's Champions League as West Ham and Manchester United, Totten are still very likely to make Arsenal fail in the end.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 24, 2021, 10:12:47 AM

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I have to say this but arsenal seems to really struggle against the big teams. They win only one with Tottenham this season but lost in almost all the other matches against big teams. And the Liverpool loss was really bad. And I have to say that Liverpool really dominated the match. They dominated almost every aspect like possession, shots taken, and accuracy. Liverpool even played a little rough that match as they conceded a lot of fouls. It will be interesting to see arsenal making a comeback after this match.

Losing to compete with big teams is one sign that Arsenal will not be able to win the title. So far I only think that Arsenal only want to qualify for the Champions League next season by staying in the top 4 of the table, but they seem to be fighting hard to make it happen. But the good thing for Arsenal and Arteta is that they are able to improve after struggling for point earlier in the season and they deserve praise from their supporters.

Arsenal's next match will probably be easy to predict because the opponent is Newcastle United. It was an easy game to win even though Newcastle have changed coach.

Arsenal for this season does not have the potential to win a trophy, in fact its performance is increasingly declining. Faced with Newcastle should not be a tough opponent if you look at the situation in the standings Arsenal are too far from Newcastle. Back to the quality that often Newcastle gave something different, such as the resistance in the first half. Because considering Arsenal are chasing points is it possible to beat more than 4 goals will be quite difficult.

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Quote from: maju69 on November 24, 2021, 10:45:38 AM

The fact is that it is difficult and there will not be too much of any change that Manchester United will make to Chelsea. Chelsea are already superior in every way, especially when they have to fight Manchester United even though Chelsea is definitely expected to be the winner. This moment is enough to take 75% of Chelsea are seeded.

Chelsea vs Man United this weekend will get a lot of attention. because many favor the dominance of Chelsea this season as the leader of the table, but Man United is not without opportunities.
Man United has a great desire to bounce back, although we know how the progress shown is still too bad. worst defeats 0-5 to Liverpool and 4-1 to Watford.
although Chelsea is the favorite in this match. I hope Man United shows better development and play.

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Quote from: Zilon on November 23, 2021, 01:50:35 PM

The stuff here is Chelsea is playing at how against Manchester united and I'm just thinking if there would be any much difference even if Ernesto Valverde joins hand with Michael Carrick to lead united against Chelsea at old Trafford. This wouldn't be an task for united at all

There will be a few changes, but it's not entirely sure that Manchester United will win the game against Chelsea who have had quite a few good performances. Maybe if it could all be done by Manchester United though. I wouldn't have high hopes, while there was a slight change in Manchester United performance it was far from enough for the beginning, because it was better in the hands of Carrick than there was still Ole, that became Man United's biggest weakness.

So funny to assume Manchester United will win Chelsea this weekend just because that Michael Carrick is in charge or is it because they won against Villarreal,I didn't see any big improvement in their play against the submarine Carrick is no better than Ole in anyway. Chelsea we wake-up Manchester United board this weekend.

The fact is that it is difficult and there will not be too much of any change that Manchester United will make to Chelsea. Chelsea are already superior in every way, especially when they have to fight Manchester United even though Chelsea is definitely expected to be the winner. This moment is enough to take 75% of Chelsea are seeded.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 24, 2021, 10:12:47 AM

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I have to say this but arsenal seems to really struggle against the big teams. They win only one with Tottenham this season but lost in almost all the other matches against big teams. And the Liverpool loss was really bad. And I have to say that Liverpool really dominated the match. They dominated almost every aspect like possession, shots taken, and accuracy. Liverpool even played a little rough that match as they conceded a lot of fouls. It will be interesting to see arsenal making a comeback after this match.

Losing to compete with big teams is one sign that Arsenal will not be able to win the title. So far I only think that Arsenal only want to qualify for the Champions League next season by staying in the top 4 of the table, but they seem to be fighting hard to make it happen. But the good thing for Arsenal and Arteta is that they are able to improve after struggling for point earlier in the season and they deserve praise from their supporters.

Arsenal's next match will probably be easy to predict because the opponent is Newcastle United. It was an easy game to win even though Newcastle have changed coach.

Even though it's a long way from being this year's title for Arsenal and it's already seen that Artetan's team can't beat the big teams but for now taking advantage of the opportunities with the lowly teams always winning, currently still staying in the top 5 although there is still a long way to go and I still haven't decided if Arsenal can stay or not.

Once again maybe we just see Arsenal vs Newcastle is very easy for The Gunner but remember low teams sometimes always make it difficult for Arsenal to win, this new coach of course there will be changes.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 24, 2021, 10:25:27 AM

Agree, judging just messing up one game is not an objective assessment. Because it should be assessed as a whole then we will find good progress that has been made by Arsenal so far. The defeat of one match from Liverpool does not mean all Arsenal's achievements fall just like that. In fact, Arsenal's position is quite advantageous when the top club has to face tough opponents. Arsenal only need to take a few points from their match against Newcastle as a place to add a lot of points, 3 to 5 goals Arsenal must get so they can overtake West Ham.

You can say differently that what Arsenal are doing is better than what we can expect from them. They began this season in uncertainty and now they are staying in a range that can help them to get a slot to Europa League. They can dream for Champions League but I think it is unrealistic dream.

I don't say this because they lost against Liverpool but it is said based on their general quality. They need to improve more to have a quality that can fight against top clubs for Champions League. Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea and even Manchester United are stronger than Arsenal.

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Quote from: Zilon on November 24, 2021, 08:06:48 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 05:25:12 AM

After arsenal move from higbury, arsenal seemed to lose luck at that time, I think the beginning of arsenal's destruction was when they tried to build a new stadium and it forced arsenal to become a club selling star players to cover the cost of building the emirates stadium, besides, Arsenal success at that time , cannot be separated from Arsene Wenger's tactics, but it will not run optimally, without the role of three French players Thierry Henry, Robert Pires and Patrick Vieira who at that time became the life of Arsenal game in winning the Invincibles title.

Judging Arsenal based on the game the lost to Liverpool isn't ethical at all. We all know how the season was with Arsenal and how they were able to bounce back to 5th position on the table before the lost their match against Liverpool. I wasn't expecting a good performance from Arsenal from that very match all I wanted to see was an improvement and I will say Arsenal tried although the lost

Agree, judging just messing up one game is not an objective assessment. Because it should be assessed as a whole then we will find good progress that has been made by Arsenal so far. The defeat of one match from Liverpool does not mean all Arsenal's achievements fall just like that. In fact, Arsenal's position is quite advantageous when the top club has to face tough opponents. Arsenal only need to take a few points from their match against Newcastle as a place to add a lot of points, 3 to 5 goals Arsenal must get so they can overtake West Ham.

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