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That is one thing people have failed to understand in this football, Liverpool vs Manchester United is not just any game but a rival game and even though there is no denial that both are on different level as Liverpool is head and shoulder above Manchester United but there have been seasons where Manchester United in a poor form have caused Liverpool problems so there is still this a bit of chance for them to still inflict such damage again.

But realistically let’s look at the situation Liverpool have not lost a game a at Anfield in the premier league to Manchester United since 2018 and Manchester United have only managed to score in just once of this game and a goalless draw is where they have taken points, with Liverpool on the this red hot form it will be very difficult for Manchester united to seriously take a point off them but again we can rule them out
Its classic match between Liverpool vs Manchester United in Premier League and both teams have huge pressure for winning that match, but during Manchester United get decreasing performance in last several season make most classic match in premier league not really interested because not balance yet how Liverpool get consistent performance but Man United have inconsistent perform this season.
For upcoming match, Liverpool still favorable than Manchester United have got three consecutives losses in premier league matches and Ruben Amorim can't bring positive impact yet since appointing as new manager last several weeks ago.

Premier League have play for game week 20 at this weekend but Manchester United still have inconsistent performance and few points left from relegation standings, for tittle race looks over but Manchester United can get race for UEFA Champion League spot standings behind 13 points remaining awhile from Chelsea.
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If I remember correctly, the season before last, when United were exactly the same shit, they took 3 points from Liverpool. And then there were games where the draws were a big blow to Liverpool. Overall yes, Liverpool are the clear favourites for the upcoming game but I still can't stop thinking that the odds for United to win are almost 10x and that looks like a value bet.

That is one thing people have failed to understand in this football, Liverpool vs Manchester United is not just any game but a rival game and even though there is no denial that both are on different level as Liverpool is head and shoulder above Manchester United but there have been seasons where Manchester United in a poor form have caused Liverpool problems so there is still this a bit of chance for them to still inflict such damage again.

But realistically let’s look at the situation Liverpool have not lost a game a at Anfield in the premier league to Manchester United since 2018 and Manchester United have only managed to score in just once of this game and a goalless draw is where they have taken points, with Liverpool on the this red hot form it will be very difficult for Manchester united to seriously take a point off them but again we can rule them out
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Mohamed Salah, one of Liverpool's strikers, is definitely contributing to Liverpool's good performance this season. If Liverpool don't value his contribution too much then if they enter the field without Mohamed Salah in any match then it will be seen how necessary this player really is for the team. Mohamed Salah is being discussed so much because there are rumors that Liverpool will release Mohamed Salah in the next transfer window.  
Mohamed Salah is a main goal source for Liverpool in many years but he is not a striker so is his position in Liverpool. Strikers in Liverpool are Firmino in the past and Nunez now, not Mohamed Salah.

Liverpool know importance of Salah with their squad and respect his contributions, but they have financial issues to consider. It's not an easy math for Liverpool to negotiate a new contract with Salah, and they have two biggest concerns, length of a new contract, and salary for the player. They possibly are concerning about risk of giving a long contract to Salah, with good salary, will break their club's ceiling and policy on old players.

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In other words, Liverpool's contract with Md. Salah will expire soon, but Liverpool is not very interested in extending the contract with this player. If this happens, Liverpool's performance will be adversely affected. So Liverpool should keep Md Salah in their team
Soon we will know final result of their negotiation, like Salah will continue his career in Anfield by signing a new contract, or will move to another big club in Europe or move to Saudi Professional League.
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You are right, Liverpool are having the best form since Arne Slot joined this team. And it is also true that Salah has been one of the outstanding players in the league this season. His contributions with 17 goals and 13 assists for the club has not only helped them to climb up the standings to first position but also cemented their status as the favourites to win the title this season.

No lies, this performance is outstanding coming from Mo Salah this season. Liverpool have played a total of 18 matches this season and out of these 18 games they featured, Salah was able to pull up with 30 goals contribution this season and 17 goals straight outta. 45 points for Liverpool is a good point for the team this season with 3 draws and 1 loss and a total of 18 matches played. Arne Slot is a blessing to Liverpool this season with his well positioning and repositioning of the team to remain firm on their feet and climb up their ladder.

Mohamed Salah, one of Liverpool's strikers, is definitely contributing to Liverpool's good performance this season. If Liverpool don't value his contribution too much then if they enter the field without Mohamed Salah in any match then it will be seen how necessary this player really is for the team. Mohamed Salah is being discussed so much because there are rumors that Liverpool will release Mohamed Salah in the next transfer window.  

In other words, Liverpool's contract with Md. Salah will expire soon, but Liverpool is not very interested in extending the contract with this player. If this happens, Liverpool's performance will be adversely affected. So Liverpool should keep Md Salah in their team
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There are many things that Amorim can't fix on that club. Even if Amorim try to think hard, MU cannot be saved for this season, he just has to make an effort to MU not to be elimination from the premier league.
Ten Hag nearly destroyed Manchester United and Amorim came as a solution in mid of season. It's his big disadvantage and perhaps he will fail in this season but Manchester United will need to give him a full next season, to assess his management quality. If they are impatient with Amorim and sack him in this season, they will have to start a new project with another new coach.

Between Sporting Lisbon and Manchester United, many big differences but Manchester United and Amorim need one full season with each other for building up their future together.

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Liverpool are on fire. they definitely won't be easy to conquer at their home. they can even win and create a lot of score when play away. Now, they face their nemesis, of course they will humiliate MU with a crushing defeat.

I don't know why there are fans dare to bet MU with that odds, where it is most likely wishing for luck MU changes drastically in the situation.
Liverpool are on fire and in theory they are stronger than Manchester United, but in a single match and with pride of a big club with many star players, who knows whether Manchester United suddenly beat Liverpool. Like they did it a few times against Manchester City while that opponent dominated Premier League recent seasons.

I don't bet on Manchester United, but if I am only watching this match, I would like to see a surprise from them.
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A lot of chaos happening at Man United is scary for coach Ruben Amorin because he cannot make the club better in addition to the news they do not have the funds to buy players in this transfer.

This weekend Man United have to go to Anfield where Liverpool are fierce at home, how do you believe Man United will win? I think there will be many people skeptical about it. Cheesy

Looking at the Liverpool vs Man United match odds where Man United odds @9.80 who dares to take the betting odds?
Maybe only diehard fans will take those odds. Grin


There are many things that Amorim can't fix on that club. Even if Amorim try to think hard, MU cannot be saved for this season, he just has to make an effort to MU not to be elimination from the premier league.

Liverpool are on fire. they definitely won't be easy to conquer at their home. they can even win and create a lot of score when play away. Now, they face their nemesis, of course they will humiliate MU with a crushing defeat.

I don't know why there are fans dare to bet MU with that odds, where it is most likely wishing for luck MU changes drastically in the situation.
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I don't think the season is long anymore, this is the last chapter of this very campaign and if should any silly error occur I don't think it would be easy to get back on track, talking about Liverpool Chelsea and especially the Gunners, they're good at making crazy mistakes so is time to sit up and make good use of any opportunity that comes their way. Slot has been up to the task of being one of the coaches in the EPL, maintaining that consistency has never been easy for him and I won't point it at luck but knowing what he needs to do, if you say is luck then Pep has been lucky all these while.
Manchester United might be very poor in performance but in this encounter I don't think Liverpool can run them down like they did in the first leg and don't be surprised that Manchester United can defeat Liverpool and put them in that frustrating path that will make them start losing games or playing out a draw, I just fear for that game against Man UTD.

Only 50% of the games have been played and you say that the season is not long anymore. You can imagine that I am again puzzled because I am trying to make sense of it how someone can argue that the season is more or less over after half of the games have been played  Huh

Maybe they should cut the season down to 19 games only then if after 19 games the results are set in stone according to your logic. Why should they bother playing those other games when everyone knows after 19 games how it is going to end?

That is of course nonsense and you know it. There are still 57 points to be played for and I think this says enough to understand that a ton of things can still happen in the Premier League and in any other league or competition.

I get you but what I'm trying to say is, some might be saying there is still time like Arsenal but if you don't get the job done you'll be left behind so doing the needful now is better than having the hope of saying there's still time, if you see the remaining time left as the deadline and you start putting more effort I think things will fall in place for you, hope you get me Mr. I don't think I need to explain myself more than I have already.
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Man Utd are an awful team at the moment but this is football, anything can happen. I think and hope Liverpool will win but you never know.

Arsenal could be 3 points behind us before we play Man Utd so we need to win this one.

If I remember correctly, the season before last, when United were exactly the same shit, they took 3 points from Liverpool. And then there were games where the draws were a big blow to Liverpool. Overall yes, Liverpool are the clear favourites for the upcoming game but I still can't stop thinking that the odds for United to win are almost 10x and that looks like a value bet.

I believe that when you are on the pitch, anything can happen, and it is beyond our expectations. But about Manchester United, they are having a bad season, where they not only failed when facing top teams, but surprisingly Manchester United also failed when facing relegation teams.

and even though man united has a pretty good record when facing liverpool, but for this season, liverpool will be a very difficult challenge for united. I have not seen that ruben amorin made a real change to be able to return the team to its best performance and get more consistent results.

And so that at least its position does not drop again, man united must at least get a draw when facing liverpol, because if not then its position will be shifted again by crystal palace. Palace, who are currently in 15th position and will face Chelsea in the 20th match, we have seen that Palace has always been a team that makes it quite difficult for top teams to win, on the other hand, Chelsea has lost its consistency, and Palace could take advantage of this momentum to win.
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Arne Slot wouldn't want to gamble their game against Manchester United since he is aware of how Arsenal is trying to become formidable after Chelsea lose out in the second position and since Manchester United is still experiencing difficulty in winning matches, Liverpool will take advantage of their weaknesses and win comfortably just like the did against Manchester City. Liverpool is determined to remain at the top position.
of course, Arne Slot does not want to waste opportunities in all matches and he is not typically the one who will underestimate opponents. In the next match, man united was not that consistent, but they also cannot be underestimated.

Liverpool is in its best form, while Man united is still in the trial and adaptation phase of tactics with Amorim, Liverpool should be able to dominate and win in this match. So far, the H2H of the two are likely:

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Yes, i am feel very sorry for Manchester City and i dont understand why Pep Guardiola can't understand the problem and therefore solve it.
In this way, in my opinion, the championship is lost for them and they are also risking the Champions League at this point.
A very big crisis it seems.
The poor performance experienced by Man City at this time is not only because of the injuries of several key players, but there is another complicated thing behind it all, someone like Pep seems unable to overcome this as if he has run out of ideas. There is no champion mentality shown at this time and indeed this season the hope of defending the title is no longer valid for them even though there are improvements in the future it will still be difficult to catch Liverpool.
We don't know what's the reason behind the poor performance of Manchester City but for sure what we see apperantly is Rodri missing. Pep's team was mainly dependent on Rodri, but now he is injured, that's why Pep can't find a way to stop the opponent and that's why Manchester City is stuck in a losing streak. But I believe that the real reason for the poor performance of Manchester City or Pep is only one and that is confidence.
 
It means that the whole team of Pep has lost their confidence. From which poor quality is concluded. Even top players of the team have also lost their confidence and are performing poorly. Manchester City needs motivation. Let me add one more thing that team motivation plays 80% role in victory. When Zidane was the coach of Real Madrid, wether he used to win or lose, but he used to give motivation to the players that we should victorious. So Pep should needs also motivate the team. Hope is a good companion in bad times. This is a solution for Pep to lift his team out of the slump.
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I don't think the season is long anymore, this is the last chapter of this very campaign and if should any silly error occur I don't think it would be easy to get back on track, talking about Liverpool Chelsea and especially the Gunners, they're good at making crazy mistakes so is time to sit up and make good use of any opportunity that comes their way. Slot has been up to the task of being one of the coaches in the EPL, maintaining that consistency has never been easy for him and I won't point it at luck but knowing what he needs to do, if you say is luck then Pep has been lucky all these while.
Manchester United might be very poor in performance but in this encounter I don't think Liverpool can run them down like they did in the first leg and don't be surprised that Manchester United can defeat Liverpool and put them in that frustrating path that will make them start losing games or playing out a draw, I just fear for that game against Man UTD.

Only 50% of the games have been played and you say that the season is not long anymore. You can imagine that I am again puzzled because I am trying to make sense of it how someone can argue that the season is more or less over after half of the games have been played  Huh

Maybe they should cut the season down to 19 games only then if after 19 games the results are set in stone according to your logic. Why should they bother playing those other games when everyone knows after 19 games how it is going to end?

That is of course nonsense and you know it. There are still 57 points to be played for and I think this says enough to understand that a ton of things can still happen in the Premier League and in any other league or competition.
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I can tell you for free that Liverpool are not comfortable with the current point gap they have over Arsenal. Imagine Arsenal winning their game against Brighton, Liverpool would be pressured to get an early goal just to take the lead because if their opponent get a goal or two against them it will be hard to get an equalizer especially if the opposition team has a better defense, for now they have to take every game very serious, if not a game would cost them that position.
At about Arsenal's behavior in games that matters you're right because it has been part of them but I feel they might change since they're in the second position and not the top of the league table, if they're topping the table I think they'll feel relaxed and start losing games they are suppose to win but this position they're in can change their mentality.
Of course it is not safe because this season is still long and many things happen that are not expected. But the current situation is certainly Liverpool is very lucky because they can widen the gap if they can beat Manchester United.
What I want to praise is the slick performance of Arne Slot because he is so good at managing strategy so that Liverpool can find a consistent form in every match.

It is very difficult to bring about better changes when you are shown as a coach of a big team. But that challenge did not come for Arne Slot because he managed to win the hearts of fans with his slick performance in building player quality. In my opinion Liverpool must succeed in getting full points in this week's match, of course that will make them comfortable from Arsenal's pursuit.

I don't think the season is long anymore, this is the last chapter of this very campaign and if should any silly error occur I don't think it would be easy to get back on track, talking about Liverpool Chelsea and especially the Gunners, they're good at making crazy mistakes so is time to sit up and make good use of any opportunity that comes their way. Slot has been up to the task of being one of the coaches in the EPL, maintaining that consistency has never been easy for him and I won't point it at luck but knowing what he needs to do, if you say is luck then Pep has been lucky all these while.
Manchester United might be very poor in performance but in this encounter I don't think Liverpool can run them down like they did in the first leg and don't be surprised that Manchester United can defeat Liverpool and put them in that frustrating path that will make them start losing games or playing out a draw, I just fear for that game against Man UTD.
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Arsenal vs Brentford should be easy match for Arsenal even though Saka is injured.

In the last match Arsenal dominating against Ipswich Town, Ipswich Town only shots 3 times and zero shot on target. Brentford also a weak team, they suffered lose streak. We might see few goals in this match, maybe 1 or 2 goals only.

They might be struggle to score a goal because Saka is absence.
Arsenal football team has good stats against Brentford football team because that team did excellent effort in all things and at the end team got win in this match. The shots of Arsenal team were more in number which were 14 from which 5 were on target and in the comparison the shots of Brentford team were less in number which were only 5 and only 2 were on target. The possession percentage of Arsenal team was 49 percent which was not bad and Brentford team possession was 51 percent and passes of Brentford were more in number and these were 485 and passes of  Arsenal team were 465. The pass accuracy of  Arsenal team was good and it was 83 percent and Brentford team was 82 percent .
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I can tell you for free that Liverpool are not comfortable with the current point gap they have over Arsenal. Imagine Arsenal winning their game against Brighton, Liverpool would be pressured to get an early goal just to take the lead because if their opponent get a goal or two against them it will be hard to get an equalizer especially if the opposition team has a better defense, for now they have to take every game very serious, if not a game would cost them that position.
At about Arsenal's behavior in games that matters you're right because it has been part of them but I feel they might change since they're in the second position and not the top of the league table, if they're topping the table I think they'll feel relaxed and start losing games they are suppose to win but this position they're in can change their mentality.
Of course it is not safe because this season is still long and many things happen that are not expected. But the current situation is certainly Liverpool is very lucky because they can widen the gap if they can beat Manchester United.
What I want to praise is the slick performance of Arne Slot because he is so good at managing strategy so that Liverpool can find a consistent form in every match.

It is very difficult to bring about better changes when you are shown as a coach of a big team. But that challenge did not come for Arne Slot because he managed to win the hearts of fans with his slick performance in building player quality. In my opinion Liverpool must succeed in getting full points in this week's match, of course that will make them comfortable from Arsenal's pursuit.
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Yes and furthermore it should be taken into account that Brentford at home has been a real force this season so far. I think they lost a single game and got 21 points in 9 games, which is very strong and their goal statistics at home are also very strong. Hence this was a good and important comeback for Arsenal although I think this still doesn't change much about the fact that Liverpool can't probably be stopped until the end of the season.
Look the course of the match, it seems like there is possibility to end in 1 - 1 or 2 - 2 draw because Brentford game is really extraordinary, they managed to put quite impressive pressure on Arsenal and dominate the game, it just that they failed to take advantage of several opportunities and Arsenal players were able to create several opportunities that resulted in goal to return home with landslide victory.
It seems that if Arsenal can maintain their good performance then they can stay in 2nd place until the end of the season and come out as runners-up, no one has been seen clearly to surpass Liverpool for now.

Yes that is how it usually plays out when teams like Brentford play against Arsenal or Liverpool. Brentford has had great home statistics and it was obvious that they will get their chances, but the decisive point is that they have to use those opportunities or otherwise Arsenal will strike back and score the goal. Underdogs usually don't get plenty of chances in these games and while I think Brentford wasn't a real underdog here, they still are not in a position which allows them to waste a lot of chances. If they do, then they lose. This is what was going on here and then Arsenal was smart and they created more chances too. Ball possession was about equal, but Arsenal made more out of the chances they had.
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Man Utd are an awful team at the moment but this is football, anything can happen. I think and hope Liverpool will win but you never know.

Arsenal could be 3 points behind us before we play Man Utd so we need to win this one.

If I remember correctly, the season before last, when United were exactly the same shit, they took 3 points from Liverpool. And then there were games where the draws were a big blow to Liverpool. Overall yes, Liverpool are the clear favourites for the upcoming game but I still can't stop thinking that the odds for United to win are almost 10x and that looks like a value bet.
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Is not like Liverpool need to use this point gap as the guarantee of winning the league,, fine they have a game at hand but can they utilize it? Nobody knows when Slot will lose. I still feel they have more challenges ahead of them even the Gunners too. I believe the title race is between Liverpool and Arsenal and as for Chelsea I don't think they can continue challenging for the title and we might be seeing the other side of them (performing poorly) since they have lost straight two games. If I'm Arteta I won't rely on any team to win before we have to win the league title this time around, like you said they have to be serious and convert any little chances they have, this is not the time to be wasting opportunities like before.
A 6-point advantage over Arsenal means Liverpool can continue to maintain the top of the standings without pressure, especially since that number could increase if they manage to win one remaining match. After Chelsea lost two games in a row, Arsenal has now taken over second place and become the team that will give Liverpool competition. But the problem is that Arsenal always slip up every now and then, when they are close to achieving their goals, they always lose important points and that is a fact that has happened in the last two seasons.

I can tell you for free that Liverpool are not comfortable with the current point gap they have over Arsenal. Imagine Arsenal winning their game against Brighton, Liverpool would be pressured to get an early goal just to take the lead because if their opponent get a goal or two against them it will be hard to get an equalizer especially if the opposition team has a better defense, for now they have to take every game very serious, if not a game would cost them that position.
At about Arsenal's behavior in games that matters you're right because it has been part of them but I feel they might change since they're in the second position and not the top of the league table, if they're topping the table I think they'll feel relaxed and start losing games they are suppose to win but this position they're in can change their mentality.
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Yes, i am feel very sorry for Manchester City and i dont understand why Pep Guardiola can't understand the problem and therefore solve it.
In this way, in my opinion, the championship is lost for them and they are also risking the Champions League at this point.
A very big crisis it seems.
The poor performance experienced by Man City at this time is not only because of the injuries of several key players, but there is another complicated thing behind it all, someone like Pep seems unable to overcome this as if he has run out of ideas. There is no champion mentality shown at this time and indeed this season the hope of defending the title is no longer valid for them even though there are improvements in the future it will still be difficult to catch Liverpool.
I also believe there is a lot of chaos going on at Man City, we only know a small part of it through the news, probably including allegations of FFP violations. The losing streak is unprecedented in Pep Guardiola reign, even the manager looks very frustrated when his team struggles to win. Injuries to key players are another factor in Man City decline, many assume Rodri is very important in Pep Guardiola game plan.

The chances of getting involved again in the competition for trophies are very slim, but Man City have high hopes of finishing in the top four of the standings. The points gap that has been formed between Man City and Liverpool is very wide, Pep Guardiola must re-formulate his priority scale this season. I think Man City dominance this season will be broken by Liverpool, Arsenal who are in second place in the standings are even struggling to catch Arne Slot squad.

I think it's not so much that they need Rodri and it's not so much that they are losing because of his absence, it's that they have relaxed at the wrong time, maybe changed something in the team and didn't correct it in time, and as a result they are getting defeat after defeat. Some people are already shouting that Pep should leave, but he himself said that if he feels that he interferes with the team, he will leave immediately, and so I would not think about his departure now, I am sure that he will find a way out of this situation.
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You are right, Liverpool are having the best form since Arne Slot joined this team. And it is also true that Salah has been one of the outstanding players in the league this season. His contributions with 17 goals and 13 assists for the club has not only helped them to climb up the standings to first position but also cemented their status as the favourites to win the title this season.

No lies, this performance is outstanding coming from Mo Salah this season. Liverpool have played a total of 18 matches this season and out of these 18 games they featured, Salah was able to pull up with 30 goals contribution this season and 17 goals straight outta. 45 points for Liverpool is a good point for the team this season with 3 draws and 1 loss and a total of 18 matches played. Arne Slot is a blessing to Liverpool this season with his well positioning and repositioning of the team to remain firm on their feet and climb up their ladder.
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A lot of chaos happening at Man United is scary for coach Ruben Amorin because he cannot make the club better in addition to the news they do not have the funds to buy players in this transfer.

This weekend Man United have to go to Anfield where Liverpool are fierce at home, how do you believe Man United will win? I think there will be many people skeptical about it. Cheesy

Looking at the Liverpool vs Man United match odds where Man United odds @9.80 who dares to take the betting odds?
Maybe only diehard fans will take those odds. Grin



Man Utd are an awful team at the moment but this is football, anything can happen. I think and hope Liverpool will win but you never know.

Arsenal could be 3 points behind us before we play Man Utd so we need to win this one.

Arne Slot wouldn't want to gamble their game against Manchester United since he is aware of how Arsenal is trying to become formidable after Chelsea lose out in the second position and since Manchester United is still experiencing difficulty in winning matches, Liverpool will take advantage of their weaknesses and win comfortably just like the did against Manchester City. Liverpool is determined to remain at the top position.
       Arsenal's resilience is one thing that will make Liverpool to put in much efforts to win Manchester United because they know the danger of allowing Arsenal to near points with them, therefore keeping a good gap between them will help them have more confidence that they can win the league title this season.
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