Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 965.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on June 19, 2024, 02:08:22 PM

Arsenal level of competition is very high, and they are really trying their possibilities to see that they get a trophy, but unfortunately they are always failing to do that at the end of the season. Although to me, getting more players is not compulsory like for other teams because Arsenal's squad is full of strength and everything is complete, I think they just need to change their pattern of play and some other things because even weak points I did not see from them, but their main problem is winning a title, which they need to win seriously.

So since all they need now is to win a title, they need to come back with a new pattern of play so that they can be able to concur with Manchester City's dominance. It is only Manchester City's performance that always holds them back from winning the title.

If Arteta has tried the same players for two good season and they make a similar mistake, he should never give them a chance to repeat those mistakes again and the players that cost them such losses should be dispose off, if there is offer in the table and it's going to be beneficial to the club, they better sell them, there is going to be more good offers and young once for replacement for the sold players so they can come back next season to give all their best this time for the time.

I am also thinking that Manchester City are winning not just because of Guardiola pattern, it's because of the current squad he has right now. Remember Arteta work with him for years before he start solo playing for Arsenal, he would know better how to handle pattern with Guardiola but the squad is what I think are going to giving him advantage over other teams. Didn't you see even Liverpool almost bag the trophy but they also made the same mistakes Arsenal made and theres was during the end of the season.

You don't expect Mikel Arteta to totally overhaul the Arsenal team by selling off all the

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 19, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.
1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title
2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.
3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

It is your right to make an own prediction but I think it is not the right time to predict now. You may consider the chance of those teams based on the squad quality, unfortunately it doesn't always happen as predicted when the season starts. Aston Villa was one of the example, no one predicted that this team could finish in the UCL zone before the season 2023-2024 started. In fact, Aston Villa could beat Tottenham, Chelsea, Man United, and Newcastle last season.

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Regarding Liverpool, honestly I'm not really sure with this team because Klopp has left the club. The new coach seems not really promising enough because he never won a prestige trophy in the top leagues in Europe. Arne Slot is only a local coach in Dutch football domestic competition. In his career, he only managed local teams such as Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar, and SC Cambuur. So far, he just won 2 trophies, Dutch champion and Cup winner. He never won UCL trophy, UEL trophy, or top league trophies in Europe. So, I think only Man City and Arsenal which can compete for the title.

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I agree with you. I think Chelsea's opening Premier League match against Manchester City is the most interesting. City are a strong team but I think everyone wants to see how Chelsea do with their new coach. The next interesting match is Liverpool vs Ipswich. Even though it will be an easy win for Liverpool but I wonder if Arne Slot can make Liverpool the same as the Klopp era. There is nothing interesting in other matches. I think the favorite teams will be able to complete their respective tasks.

Chelsea opening game is what many Chelsea fans have frowned against, they don’t want to meet Manchester City first because they’re scared of incuring a big loss to them. This is to the fans, but I don’t think the players will feel the same way or neither will their new coach be. It is just the beginning and father season, and they’ll be trying their new tactics out to see how it will go well for them. It could be in their favor and may not be in their favor if it doesn’t work out as planned. Manchester City are still with their old coach, and we have seen what they can do with the team in the field. Since Chelsea is a team to be led by a new coach, we are expecting to see something different kind of approach in their game.

On paper, the match between Chelsea and City is fairly easy to predict, where Pep Guardiola fleet is very worthy of being the favorite to secure full points. Chelsea is a little lucky because they act as hosts, and all fans hope that Enzo Maresca can manage Chelsea better than Pochettino. But I think Enzo Maresca looks like he will immediately experience defeat in his first match with Chelsea.

Luckily Enzo Maresca had plenty of time to prepare the team, and played several friendly matches before the Premier League started. But what is clear is that the former Leicester manager needs time to adapt to his official matches, hopefully this adaptation period will run quickly, so that Chelsea can perform well next season.

On the other hand, Pep Guardiola certainly won't be too bothered about preparing his fleet when entering the new season, where not many changes will occur in his squad. The Chelsea versus City match was one of the most interesting in the opening week, I think the Leicester versus Tottenham match was also interesting. But the match is still very long time, currently all the teams are busy in the transfer window.

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While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

It's too early to predict now, the league hasn't started yet and things won't be exactly as they say. I still agree when you call Arsenal and Manchester City the favorites for the title, but Liverpool and Chelsea are two teams that have just got new managers and it is likely that it will still be difficult to get the best place in their first season.

Tottenham, Aston Villa and Manchester United appeared more convincing in terms of opportunities. But what is certain is that I will never underestimate Liverpool and Chelsea even though they will start the season with their new coaches. Squad depth and good strategy will have a positive impact on the team's play, this will help their plans for next season.

Liverpool was changing the coach and i think they still required time to adapt with Arne Slot even personally Arne Slot trying to be realistic that with his debut season in Liverpool he didn't dare to promising anything to Liverpool fans because he know Premier League as the most competitive league in Europa so it's not easy to managed team in this league so for next season although i hope Liverpool can able to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for race title but i think it's too early to called them the strong contender for these teams

I was interested want to see the performance of Manchester United for next season because seem Ten Hag will do a major changes for this team and if they don't have another injury storm i think their performance will be much better and they can being an strong candidates for Champion League zone but besides Manchester United i want to see Aston Villa too and looking forward to see their performance later whether they still be able to maintain their consistency next season or not especially Aston Villa having a busy schedule because they have to playing at champion league

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Kobbie Mainoo: “I am so grateful for Erik ten Hag, I can't thank him enough”.
“He's already got two trophies, hopefully there are more to come”.
“It is nice to have that peace of mind, we know what manager we are going back to in the new season”.

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Really? I thought a lot of the players actually had problems with the coach. Well, those players who actually had problems with the coach have already left Manchester United or are not in Manchester United right now, lol Cheesy

. Because they are on loan and playing for another club. Some players have directly said that they are not going to ever come back to Manchester United or something along those lines. It is actually a little surprising to see a Manchester United player saying the exact opposite. Good for Manchester United and the coach of Manchester United I guess. After being thrashed so badly by almost the whole world and also the media, this is actually good to hear, lol.

Don't forget the time when they didn't have Ten Hag in the team Manchester United had many problems and they didn't have a good station in the Premier League at all but Ten Hag helped them to get improve and have better performance. However, he was not successful enough compared to many other teams but I think Ten Hag is a good coach for Manchester United and he was just not lucky enough to have a better place in the league.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on June 19, 2024, 02:08:22 PM

Arsenal level of competition is very high, and they are really trying their possibilities to see that they get a trophy, but unfortunately they are always failing to do that at the end of the season. Although to me, getting more players is not compulsory like for other teams because Arsenal's squad is full of strength and everything is complete, I think they just need to change their pattern of play and some other things because even weak points I did not see from them, but their main problem is winning a title, which they need to win seriously.

So since all they need now is to win a title, they need to come back with a new pattern of play so that they can be able to concur with Manchester City's dominance. It is only Manchester City's performance that always holds them back from winning the title.

If Arteta has tried the same players for two good season and they make a similar mistake, he should never give them a chance to repeat those mistakes again and the players that cost them such losses should be dispose off, if there is offer in the table and it's going to be beneficial to the club, they better sell them, there is going to be more good offers and young once for replacement for the sold players so they can come back next season to give all their best this time for the time.

I am also thinking that Manchester City are winning not just because of Guardiola pattern, it's because of the current squad he has right now. Remember Arteta work with him for years before he start solo playing for Arsenal, he would know better how to handle pattern with Guardiola but the squad is what I think are going to giving him advantage over other teams. Didn't you see even Liverpool almost bag the trophy but they also made the same mistakes Arsenal made and theres was during the end of the season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 19, 2024, 01:18:52 PM

I don’t know what will happen to City (after all, the investigation is putting pressure on them), but Liverpool with a new coach is far from certain that it will be invincible.
As for relegation, the current quotes are as follows:

Leicester City - 1.44

Ipswich Town - 1.83

Everton - 2.20

Southampton- 2.50

Nottingham Forest - 2.75

No wonder - newcomers are always the main favorites to not stay in the Premier League. It surprises me that Everton are the next favorites to leave the Premier League after them, I don’t follow them closely and I don’t think I’ve heard that their problems have gotten that much worse.

Well it is not surprising because seeing the conditions for promoted clubs sometimes they will definitely be a little inconvenient when they are in a competition that is different than before, especially for now Ipswich Town, of course we are aware that this is a new name for the EPL because it has been a long time since they were in the highest competition so it is very natural to make conditions that are indeed very favorite to be in the club that is most likely to be relegated. It's just that for Everton I'm quite difficult to know what the bookie thinks in this case.

Indeed, for last season's standings we must be aware that Everton are not that good but when looking at the reduction of points and their mentality to stay in the EPL I think last season they did very well so seeing them enter one of the clubs that are most likely to be relegated I think it could be a difficult thing because I still feel that Dyche will be more capable than this season when talking about the achievements they will get.

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When we're talking about favorite games, Enzo Maresca and Pep Guardiola comes in the picture because they're both good coaches that knows specifically how to handled elite team. Chelsea vs Manchester City is the favorite game to watch because it’s an important fixture.

I agree with you. I think Chelsea's opening Premier League match against Manchester City is the most interesting. City are a strong team but I think everyone wants to see how Chelsea do with their new coach. The next interesting match is Liverpool vs Ipswich. Even though it will be an easy win for Liverpool but I wonder if Arne Slot can make Liverpool the same as the Klopp era. There is nothing interesting in other matches. I think the favorite teams will be able to complete their respective tasks.

Chelsea opening game is what many Chelsea fans have frowned against, they don’t want to meet Manchester City first because they’re scared of incuring a big loss to them. This is to the fans, but I don’t think the players will feel the same way or neither will their new coach be. It is just the beginning and father season, and they’ll be trying their new tactics out to see how it will go well for them. It could be in their favor and may not be in their favor if it doesn’t work out as planned. Manchester City are still with their old coach, and we have seen what they can do with the team in the field. Since Chelsea is a team to be led by a new coach, we are expecting to see something different kind of approach in their game.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 19, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

It is too early to start making such a prediction. But since it is called prediction, there is nothing wrong about it. You tried in your prediction but in my opinion I would say that you should remove Leicester City from the clubs that will be relegated. Those guys have go to the experience of English Premier League, in fact they have been the champions of the English Premier League in recent time so they will not return to relegation is easily.

I will also want you to remove Liverpool from the clubs that will contest to win the English Premier League. Their quality has been dropping in the recent time and for the fact that they have a new coach makes it more uncertain.

Finally, it could be advisable to include Aston Villa in the clubs that will contest for the title this season. I believe the ability of Aston Villa more than that of Chelsea.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on June 19, 2024, 02:03:09 PM

Your picks are great and if they will be any changes in them, it will only be a little and most of the teams will only be at the position you’ve mentioned them to be. Where I see a strong unlike what you mentioned to happen will be those teams that will be going for relegation. It may differ in the end but maybe one of the three teams you’ve mentioned will fall in that category. I don’t think a team like Leicester City will go for relegation again just after their return from it. I feel they have what it takes to remain in the premier league after a complete season with them in the next season. Ipswich Town and Southampton, at least one of them will fall amongst the team to go for relegation but not Leicester City have you’ve said.

Leicester lost Maresca, I think this is a very significant factor, yes they can sign a contract with Potter, and it will be a good replacement, but I admit that the team with Potter will change. I try to avoid making forecasts before the start of the season, at least for the first few rounds to understand how ready the team is for playing in the Premier League. And I’m also not sure about Liverpool, for the same reason, Klopp left the team and Slot took his place, it takes time to understand how well he can manage such a team.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 19, 2024, 01:06:51 PM

Whether a match is interesting or not doesn't just depend on who is playing. I know people are more interested in big matches between strong teams like Manchester City and Chelsea, but matches between mid-table teams can also be more interesting because they have almost the same squad depth. Of course it's true that many people are curious about what the new Chelsea manager will do in the opening match against reigning champions Manchester City, but it feels like the final result is easy to predict.

The Manchester United vs Fulham match also needs to be watched out for. Fulham is a good team where they managed to end the season in 13th place last season. I never said that mid-table team matches weren't interesting, some of the matches were even better than big matches.

Well, sometimes matches between ordinary teams are no less interesting. It is even more difficult to predict matches between ordinary clubs. Because sometimes their performance can go up and down quickly. As a result, the level of consistency is not as good as the big teams. But yeah, their matches are always no less interesting. Especially if we are betting on the match. Wink

But to be honest, I am also sometimes more interested in matches that pit strong teams against teams that were initially considered weak but have become teams that turn out to be quite strong. Some dramatic results sometimes make me happy with the results even though sometimes I lose my bets.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 19, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

Arsenal and Manchester City I can agree, but the name Liverpool? No! They have a new coach who has no experience of the Premier League Competition. I double doubt he will be able to get a cup next season. This is my prediction and most likely and closest to win it this time would be Arsenal.

No, where is Brentford? How about Nothingham Forest? I even see Everton struggling next season. Leicester City has experience in the Premier League Competition, I'm very certain they'll thrive. It all depends on the manager that comes in right now. A poor coach comes in and they'll struggle.

Ipswich has got a sound coach who is also young. They will not be relegated.

The top four is too difficult for me right now, I can make such conclusions. There's Aston Villa and also Chelsea thriving, we don't know what will happen. But it's best of we keep an open mind.

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Quote from: reagansimms on June 19, 2024, 09:23:55 AM

Arsenal direction of play has begun to improve rapidly since Arteta led the team on the sidelines, he has succeeded in making Arsenal a team capable of providing competition for the title. The failure to win trophies in the last two seasons means that Arteta needs to improve his team's abilities so that they always perform optimally. They must consistently maintain their performance because the team that are their competitors always maintain their performance well.
Arsenal failure to compete with Manchester City in the last two seasons must be overcome immediately by increasing the team's strength so that the game is faster and produces more goals. Currently Arsenal only target is winning the title, they will try to win the EPL title while breaking down Manchester City's dominance which has lasted four seasons.

Arsenal level of competition is very high, and they are really trying their possibilities to see that they get a trophy, but unfortunately they are always failing to do that at the end of the season. Although to me, getting more players is not compulsory like for other teams because Arsenal's squad is full of strength and everything is complete, I think they just need to change their pattern of play and some other things because even weak points I did not see from them, but their main problem is winning a title, which they need to win seriously.

So since all they need now is to win a title, they need to come back with a new pattern of play so that they can be able to concur with Manchester City's dominance. It is only Manchester City's performance that always holds them back from winning the title.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 19, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

Your picks are great and if they will be any changes in them, it will only be a little and most of the teams will only be at the position you’ve mentioned them to be. Where I see a strong unlike what you mentioned to happen will be those teams that will be going for relegation. It may differ in the end but maybe one of the three teams you’ve mentioned will fall in that category. I don’t think a team like Leicester City will go for relegation again just after their return from it. I feel they have what it takes to remain in the premier league after a complete season with them in the next season. Ipswich Town and Southampton, at least one of them will fall amongst the team to go for relegation but not Leicester City have you’ve said.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 19, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

It's too early to predict now, the league hasn't started yet and things won't be exactly as they say. I still agree when you call Arsenal and Manchester City the favorites for the title, but Liverpool and Chelsea are two teams that have just got new managers and it is likely that it will still be difficult to get the best place in their first season.

Tottenham, Aston Villa and Manchester United appeared more convincing in terms of opportunities. But what is certain is that I will never underestimate Liverpool and Chelsea even though they will start the season with their new coaches. Squad depth and good strategy will have a positive impact on the team's play, this will help their plans for next season.

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While we wait for the EPL to officially kick off on the 17 of August. This is my bet for the season and what would come out if it.

1. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City are teams likely to win the EPL title

2. Ipswich Town, Leicester City and Southampton are teams that may likely go for relegation.

3. UEFA qualifiers should be Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.

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Arsenal direction of play has begun to improve rapidly since Arteta led the team on the sidelines, he has succeeded in making Arsenal a team capable of providing competition for the title. The failure to win trophies in the last two seasons means that Arteta needs to improve his team's abilities so that they always perform optimally. They must consistently maintain their performance because the team that are their competitors always maintain their performance well.
Arsenal failure to compete with Manchester City in the last two seasons must be overcome immediately by increasing the team's strength so that the game is faster and produces more goals. Currently Arsenal only target is winning the title, they will try to win the EPL title while breaking down Manchester City's dominance which has lasted four seasons.

No, Arteta did not immediately have a positive impact on Arsenal's game at the start of his job.
Arsenal even almost fired Arteta when he and his team really performed poorly in the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 seasons. Everything improved in the third season, of course because Arteta started to find the right formula for his team and became a competitor at the top of the standings again. Especially in the last 3 seasons, Arsenal have really improved in my opinion.

Arteta has a contract until 30 June 2025 with Arsenal. Arsenal management needs to give him a lot of support if they really want to win the title that they have not won for the last 20 seasons. Regardless, Arsenal should consider Arteta as a coach for much of the next season, I have to say he is as good as Pep Guardiola's closest competitor compared to other coaches in the Premier League.

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In my opinion, it's the other way around - luck. Or do you think Ipswich would have a better chance in the middle of the season when the teams are in better shape or at the end of the season when every point can be golden? Just at the start, the randomness is higher than usual and the outsider can unexpectedly score “unplanned” points. Even if they lose both games, after Liverpool and City it will be easier for them to play with other clubs since the worst will be behind them.

They definitely may not have hope on their first two matches either winning or getting a draw but there's a way they may perform that will make us believe that there's a chance they may just do well to survive the relegation, which I think will likely be their aim in that game with this I don't really see these 2 matches as an unfortunate event with them since no matter what they are bound to face these team and other top teams in the Epl

I don’t know what will happen to City (after all, the investigation is putting pressure on them), but Liverpool with a new coach is far from certain that it will be invincible.
As for relegation, the current quotes are as follows:

Leicester City - 1.44

Ipswich Town - 1.83

Everton - 2.20

Southampton- 2.50

Nottingham Forest - 2.75

No wonder - newcomers are always the main favorites to not stay in the Premier League. It surprises me that Everton are the next favorites to leave the Premier League after them, I don’t follow them closely and I don’t think I’ve heard that their problems have gotten that much worse.

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I agree with you. I think Chelsea's opening Premier League match against Manchester City is the most interesting. City are a strong team but I think everyone wants to see how Chelsea do with their new coach. The next interesting match is Liverpool vs Ipswich. Even though it will be an easy win for Liverpool but I wonder if Arne Slot can make Liverpool the same as the Klopp era. There is nothing interesting in other matches. I think the favorite teams will be able to complete their respective tasks.

Whether a match is interesting or not doesn't just depend on who is playing. I know people are more interested in big matches between strong teams like Manchester City and Chelsea, but matches between mid-table teams can also be more interesting because they have almost the same squad depth. Of course it's true that many people are curious about what the new Chelsea manager will do in the opening match against reigning champions Manchester City, but it feels like the final result is easy to predict.

The Manchester United vs Fulham match also needs to be watched out for. Fulham is a good team where they managed to end the season in 13th place last season. I never said that mid-table team matches weren't interesting, some of the matches were even better than big matches.

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Manchester City has been seen as the "bad guys" for years now, but the reality is that they didn't even spend that much money. Their net spending isn't the highest in the league, and yet they are the champions for the past four years, that doesn't really feel like bad guys.

That just feels like they knew that they needed Pep to get a system manager, and they did and he put the system in there, and eventually they removed any player that didn't fit the system well and got another one, or even if the player did fit, but got older and worse, they just got another one. They are doing fine, sure they do spend a lot compared to many teams, but they are not spending the most amount of money so I think they are doing very well and not the bad guys.

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