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December 31, 2019, 07:32:21 AM
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December 31, 2019, 07:26:22 AM
Arteta is having a tough run of fixtures, it'd have been better for him facing weaker teams at least in his fist few games. Losing to Manchester United would leave him with 1 point out of a possible nine, that'll be a really bad start for him, he needs to do business in the transfer market starting next month.

The problem with Arsenal was totally not the manager.
They had a bigger issue with the players' chemistry and possibly their attitude outside the pitch. The gunners need an absolute reform of the team and bring fresh talented players if they want to be a top club again.
yeah man, Arteta is a potential coach because he worked with Pep Guardiola before it, as we know that Pep is one of the best coaches. Arteta only needs support from management to buy a few players in the transfer market in January

Arsenal are a thrifty team, just look at the last few years this team is less aggressive in recruiting expensive players
they are more interested in buying young players then polished to be a star and then sell it  Cheesy
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December 31, 2019, 07:12:00 AM
Arteta only needs support from management to buy a few players in the transfer market in January
Arteta using scheme 3-5-2 need strong defender [Center-Back] to handle it when Defending-Midfielder going to help attacker and late to back to position.
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December 31, 2019, 06:57:21 AM
Arteta is having a tough run of fixtures, it'd have been better for him facing weaker teams at least in his fist few games. Losing to Manchester United would leave him with 1 point out of a possible nine, that'll be a really bad start for him, he needs to do business in the transfer market starting next month.

The problem with Arsenal was totally not the manager.
They had a bigger issue with the players' chemistry and possibly their attitude outside the pitch. The gunners need an absolute reform of the team and bring fresh talented players if they want to be a top club again.
yeah man, Arteta is a potential coach because he worked with Pep Guardiola before it, as we know that Pep is one of the best coaches. Arteta only needs support from management to buy a few players in the transfer market in January
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December 31, 2019, 06:55:27 AM

He deserves credit not just for that goal, but for his contributions to Chelsea this season, that's his 13th epl goal of the season if i am not mistaken, so many didn't even expect him to hit double figure let alone score that much in just the first half of the season. At the start of this season Giroud probably thought he'll be Chelsea's main man upfront, but Tammy's form is doing well to keep him on the bench, I would not be surprised if Giroud leaves this January.
I know he is a great player and he is a good asset for both Chelsea and England as a nation. There are no doubt that his future is bright as well. Only 22 years old. I was only talking about that specific goal only.

By the way, it's 12, the number of EPL goals in this season for him.



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December 31, 2019, 06:38:15 AM
Really? Why would they do that? I can understand them not accepting any more bets on Liverpool to win but are they paying out the full amount or letting people take an early cash-out of a lower amount? I could understand the partial cash out as they try to cut their losses from what likely is an inevitability but the season is far from over and there's nothing in it for the bookies to give a full cash out right now. The bookies desperately did this when Leicester were on to win the league as they were going to take massive losses if that came in, which was looking very likely, so they were desperately offering partial cash outs to try soften the blow.

I read about this too. I thought it was quite silly,,, but apparently bookies in UK have loyal customers and they even pay out some bets early when they are very loyal customers sort of like an early cashout.

I think it was stupid too. This payout was even with Liverpool leading at 10 points. Which is very stupid. Publicity stunts I guess.

Oh and yes about Liverpool losing 3 or 4 games, City and Leicester must then also win. So almost impossible situation.

Liverpool will draw a few games for sure. This rate is just unsustainable!
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December 31, 2019, 03:53:44 AM
Arteta is having a tough run of fixtures, it'd have been better for him facing weaker teams at least in his fist few games. Losing to Manchester United would leave him with 1 point out of a possible nine, that'll be a really bad start for him, he needs to do business in the transfer market starting next month.

The problem with Arsenal was totally not the manager.
They had a bigger issue with the players' chemistry and possibly their attitude outside the pitch. The gunners need an absolute reform of the team and bring fresh talented players if they want to be a top club again.
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December 31, 2019, 03:49:23 AM
Abraham deserves the credit here.
He deserves credit not just for that goal, but for his contributions to Chelsea this season, that's his 13th epl goal of the season if i am not mistaken, so many didn't even expect him to hit double figure let alone score that much in just the first half of the season. At the start of this season Giroud probably thought he'll be Chelsea's main man upfront, but Tammy's form is doing well to keep him on the bench, I would not be surprised if Giroud leaves this January.
After losing to Chelsea this week Arsenal will face their heavy team this week with Manchester United getting hit even more for Arsenal.
Arteta is having a tough run of fixtures, it'd have been better for him facing weaker teams at least in his fist few games. Losing to Manchester United would leave him with 1 point out of a possible nine, that'll be a really bad start for him, he needs to do business in the transfer market starting next month.
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December 31, 2019, 02:13:35 AM
I believe in the miracle of football , catching up 20 points is not impossible. Manchester city has the ability to do that.
Citeh would need to win all 18 games remaining to make a maximum of 95 points for the season. Same with Leicester... they can make a max of 96 by winning their last 18 game straight... ie. a 100% winrate for basically half the season, when they already have only a 65% win rate at 13 wins out of 20 played.

To better those totals, Liverpool only need to win 14 of their 19 remaining games (~74% win rate) and could lose the other 5. In fact, they could beat Citeh and draw even with Leicester with only 11 wins and 8 draws, but they have GD of +9 on Leicester. And a single slip by Citeh or Leicester at this point will make it even more of a mountain for them to climb.

Having said that, we're really only halfway through the season... anything can happen still, and until it is mathematically impossible for the others to win, I'm not counting my Liverbirds before they've hatched! Tongue Wink

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Talking about Liverpool match, I guess you are talking about the match against Wolves? I can not remember their goal (watching too many matches these days so I mix up LOL)
It was a long ball from van Dijk, that came off Lallana's shoulder/chest and was finished by Mane... it was reviewed by VAR and rightly awarded.


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but the goal that was scored by Wolves just before the half time, should have been stand.
As with some of Liverpool's VAR offside reviews where a players "armpit" was ruled offside(!!?! Shocked Roll Eyes)... it was shown that the Wolves player was offside by the smallest of margins... so it was quite rightly disallowed for offside.
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December 31, 2019, 12:52:00 AM

I don't really have a problem with it, just pointing out that the goals happen because some players made a mistake. Depending on your PoV, you can call it 'luck' or 'part of the game'. Liverpool's goal against Sheffield this season is another example.

I did not mean it was a problem to you, it just I expressed my view in it 😀

Talking about Liverpool match, I guess you are talking about the match against Wolves? I can not remember their goal (watching too many matches these days so I mix up LOL) but the goal that was scored by Wolves just before the half time, should have been stand.



Arsenal are currently being defeated by both big teams and small teams
I always say this,
Arsenal, Utd, Tottenham are bookies favorites in this season. With them in recent time City joined too. Betting for these teams are highly risky these days.
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December 31, 2019, 12:50:10 AM


Leno's mistake helps them to get points. Not to mention Mustafi is really bad recently.
The equalizer?
Yes! But isn't it a part of the game?
How about the 2nd goal? Wasn't it a clean one? Leno had nothing to do but to freeze himself and see the ball gone pass in between his legs. Abraham deserves the credit here.

By the way, keeper are making mistakes is not much to raise questions I guess but how the VAR is changing a match, is something to worry these days.

Guess it fuels up more when there is a good rivalry between Arsenal and Chelsea. Chelsea defeated Arsenal twice this year including the Europa league final. There were lot of turning points. We can't held only Leno responsible for losing the game. Leno is a good goalkeeper and mistake do happen. Just let it go..Arsenal still have plenty of time to fix things up for themselves if they focus on from here onwards.

Also we can't say Chelsea didn't deserved that. They put a lot of effort in that match.

Arsenal are currently being defeated by both big teams and small teams so even though they have tried hard to win it I think it's still difficult too, the goalkeeper's mistake is definitely there too but it's not entirely the goalkeeper's fault which is clearly his abyss.
After losing to Chelsea this week Arsenal will face their heavy team this week with Manchester United getting hit even more for Arsenal.
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December 31, 2019, 12:34:44 AM
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I don't really have a problem with it, just pointing out that the goals happen because some players made a mistake. Depending on your PoV, you can call it 'luck' or 'part of the game'. Liverpool's goal against Sheffield this season is another example.
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December 31, 2019, 12:13:01 AM


Leno's mistake helps them to get points. Not to mention Mustafi is really bad recently.
The equalizer?
Yes! But isn't it a part of the game?
How about the 2nd goal? Wasn't it a clean one? Leno had nothing to do but to freeze himself and see the ball gone pass in between his legs. Abraham deserves the credit here.

By the way, keeper are making mistakes is not much to raise questions I guess but how the VAR is changing a match, is something to worry these days.

Guess it fuels up more when there is a good rivalry between Arsenal and Chelsea. Chelsea defeated Arsenal twice this year including the Europa league final. There were lot of turning points. We can't held only Leno responsible for losing the game. Leno is a good goalkeeper and mistake do happen. Just let it go..Arsenal still have plenty of time to fix things up for themselves if they focus on from here onwards.

Also we can't say Chelsea didn't deserved that. They put a lot of effort in that match.
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December 30, 2019, 11:43:18 PM


Leno's mistake helps them to get points. Not to mention Mustafi is really bad recently.
The equalizer?
Yes! But isn't it a part of the game?
How about the 2nd goal? Wasn't it a clean one? Leno had nothing to do but to freeze himself and see the ball gone pass in between his legs. Abraham deserves the credit here.

By the way, keeper are making mistakes is not much to raise questions I guess but how the VAR is changing a match, is something to worry these days.
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December 30, 2019, 11:33:07 PM
Nat Phillips and Minamino will be playing versus Sheff United on the 3rd Friday?

Phillips could play iirc but Minamino won't. He'll be eligible to play for LFC from the FA Cup match, just like Virgil in 2018.

Excited to see where Minamino will play. Klopp will probably stick with 2 AMF so Keita and Minamino will slot in.

Turns out that Lampard really knows what he is doing. Those goals in the last 10 minutes against Arsenal, made me confident that I gone with Chelsea again in this coming round too against Brighton. I hope Chelsea manage to get another win.

Leno's mistake helps them to get points. Not to mention Mustafi is really bad recently.
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December 30, 2019, 11:31:17 PM

Yeah, i think it's safe to say Lampard will get to keep his job after January 1st  Cheesy So, you've been paid already! Check your PMs.

Fair play to Lampard, top 4 in the EPL and RO16 in the Champions League...I'm impressed. The team did look a bit shaky from time to time, but overall, he's done a terrific job so far.
Turns out that Lampard really knows what he is doing. Those goals in the last 10 minutes against Arsenal, made me confident that I gone with Chelsea again in this coming round too against Brighton. I hope Chelsea manage to get another win.

By the way, just made my picks for FJM. I missed last two rounds and thought to have enough. So, completed the job very early in this round.
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December 30, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
When will Liverpool play with WestHam? as far as I know this week Liverpool will play with Sheff United on the 3rd Friday.
And after that will be playing away with Tottenham Hotspurs, now a match that will be even more exciting might surprise again.
Liverpool points will never be achieved by any club because the difference is quite far.
my bad, I am sorry I don't read Liverpool vs Westham was rescheduled on 30 January 2020.
Are Nat Phillips and Minamino will be playing versus Sheff United on the 3rd Friday?
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December 30, 2019, 03:52:01 PM
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Do you want to make a small bet regarding Lampard future in Chelsea since we have a difference of opinion regarding the matter?
I'm down! Wanna do it like this? my $20 (Lampard will get sacked before December 31st) for your $30 (Lampard will be Chelsea's manager on Wednesday, January 1st 2020, in the game Brighton vs Chelsea). Quote me and it's on (:



It is on. I did't check the game but the date and amounts are enough to make this bet work. The looser shall pay out BTC eqivalent of 20 or 30 USD as per rate on January 1st 2020 at the start of mentioned Brighton-Chelsea game  Grin

I will leave you neutral trust rating with reference for this post as a way to track the bet. I have few of them going on and it helps me keep track.
Great! Good luck, man  Wink
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Doesn't look so good for you at the moment Smiley

Chelsea was doing so well for quite some time and I thought this bet is mine for sure. Then came few losses against week teams without scoring a goal and I started to worry a bit. Then came Arsenal game and Chelsea is playing like shit in first half and loosing 1:0. Here I thought, is it possible he will get sacked few days before our deadline. After turning that one over I am even confident enough to write this post and try to challenge my luck.
Yeah, i think it's safe to say Lampard will get to keep his job after January 1st  Cheesy So, you've been paid already! Check your PMs.

Fair play to Lampard, top 4 in the EPL and RO16 in the Champions League...I'm impressed. The team did look a bit shaky from time to time, but overall, he's done a terrific job so far.
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December 30, 2019, 11:44:29 AM
13 points is probably the biggest any team has had as a lead in any season I can remember,,, but remember, all it takes is one bad patch of 3 or 4 losses to happen and the gap will reduce. In fact City had one bad patch last season if I recall where they lost and drew 3 games in a row. The psychological impact of let us say dropping 7 points in 3 games, it can be huge. 13 points becomes 6 and City still have to meet Liverpool again!

Liverpool have a game in hand as well don't forget. Of course it's possible that Liverpool could slip up but to throw essentially 5 games away at this point is hard to envision unless there's some major injuries. Don't forget that City and Leicester would also need to win all their games as well during this bad patch to catch up.  Liverpool only lost one game last season but drew seven times and it was those draws that cost them in the end as City lost four matches and only drew the two. Both Man City and Leicester have just been far too shakey recently and I think they'll both drop more points (Leicester more so than City). I think Liverpool will end up with some more draws though. They've been very lucky in a few of their last games to come away with the full three points.

Some UK bookies are paying out on them winning the league & not accepting any more bets on them to win it.


Really? Why would they do that? I can understand them not accepting any more bets on Liverpool to win but are they paying out the full amount or letting people take an early cash-out of a lower amount? I could understand the partial cash out as they try to cut their losses from what likely is an inevitability but the season is far from over and there's nothing in it for the bookies to give a full cash out right now. The bookies desperately did this when Leicester were on to win the league as they were going to take massive losses if that came in, which was looking very likely, so they were desperately offering partial cash outs to try soften the blow.
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December 30, 2019, 10:56:44 AM
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I dont think that Manchester City and the others are tough competitors for Liverpool so far. Because the difference in points between them is very far and it is impossible for Liverpool to let other clubs beat them and let go of a great opportunity to win the trophy.
I like the Manchester City game, but they are not like the previous season and this season there are a lot of games that they play without points and once again I am very confident that Liverpool will lift the EPL trophy this season.
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