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Quote from: Sutters Mill on August 31, 2018, 01:22:10 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on August 31, 2018, 10:50:55 AM

^ Wait is Mourinho really getting the sack if they lose vs Burnley? And if he went, who would take over? Zidane? Lol. I don't think he's up to some pressure again atm... He left Real for that exact reason... Doesn't want to handle the pressure.

Man United will stick with him til the end of the season imho.

No. People are just speculating just for the fun of it. If they do lose to Burnley however it's not going to look good for him. I don't think they will stick with him until the end of the season unless he turns them around pretty quickly. They should beat Burnley but they are usually very strong at home and tough to beat. Zidane would be a worthy successor and I'd like to see him at United if Jose does go, but they're just rumors and mostly speculation and wishful thinking from excited fans. As I said before as well, even if he did manage them I don't think he'll be a miracle worker and do that much better than Jose would have done.

It will be a miracle if Zidane replace Mourinho, if there is other coach that is able to replace Mourinho then that would be zidane. Look at how he changed Real Madrid, he won 3 times champions league trophy and currently not coaching any team. If Manchester United keep playing like this then Mourinho might really lose his job

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 31, 2018, 10:50:55 AM

^ Wait is Mourinho really getting the sack if they lose vs Burnley? And if he went, who would take over? Zidane? Lol. I don't think he's up to some pressure again atm... He left Real for that exact reason... Doesn't want to handle the pressure.

Man United will stick with him til the end of the season imho.

No. People are just speculating just for the fun of it. If they do lose to Burnley however it's not going to look good for him. I don't think they will stick with him until the end of the season unless he turns them around pretty quickly. They should beat Burnley but they are usually very strong at home and tough to beat. Zidane would be a worthy successor and I'd like to see him at United if Jose does go, but they're just rumors and mostly speculation and wishful thinking from excited fans. As I said before as well, even if he did manage them I don't think he'll be a miracle worker and do that much better than Jose would have done.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 31, 2018, 10:50:55 AM

^ Wait is Mourinho really getting the sack if they lose vs Burnley? And if he went, who would take over? Zidane? Lol. I don't think he's up to some pressure again atm... He left Real for that exact reason... Doesn't want to handle the pressure.

Man United will stick with him til the end of the season imho.

Mounrinho did not get a good season at this time with Manchester United. But keep in mind that mourinho is a coach who has a very good class and reputation. Never doubt the strength of the mourinho and this is still very early and the mourinho still has a very long time to try to improve the achievements he will achieve this season.

Manchester United still remains a very large team and Manchester United remains a champion candidate with other big teams such as Cityzen, Chelsea, Tottenham and the arsenal.

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^ Wait is Mourinho really getting the sack if they lose vs Burnley? And if he went, who would take over? Zidane? Lol. I don't think he's up to some pressure again atm... He left Real for that exact reason... Doesn't want to handle the pressure.

Man United will stick with him til the end of the season imho.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools and the policy of changing coaches will not work, especially as the alternative Zidane is unconvincing in my eyes he had an already good team and he didn't had to make big decisions also best thing for him he had extreme luck. for now Mourinho is still with United next game with burnley will be the key for his survival. if he failed to win then it's time for the change zidane is not the only name mentioned to be close to manage United Belgium national team manager Roberto martinez is also recently name popped out.

They can't keep throwing money at players and down the drain if they don't win anything. They don't have an unlimited budget either and there's financial fair play rules that come into effect that prohibit them going crazy. I suspect they've already spent most if not all of what they were going to (or are allowed to) unless they unload some other players. I don't think them spending more money is the issue though. If they can't work with the squad and manager they've got now then nothing will work.

i'm Sure that Manchester had minimum extra 100M euros saved up this season for not getting the defenders Mourinho wanted but yes it's not a money probleme their problem is the other players they bought should have started to bring results by now like Sanchez Lukaku and Pogba, Mourinho used to bring the best out of his players but now we don't see that. burnley game will see if Mourinho going to finish the season with him keeping his job or not.
United should get this win because Burnley is also struggling as they lost to Fulham, lost to Watford, Out of Europe unless United players play a shitty game again the three points should go to them.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools and the policy of changing coaches will not work, especially as the alternative Zidane is unconvincing in my eyes he had an already good team and he didn't had to make big decisions also best thing for him he had extreme luck. for now Mourinho is still with United next game with burnley will be the key for his survival. if he failed to win then it's time for the change zidane is not the only name mentioned to be close to manage United Belgium national team manager Roberto martinez is also recently name popped out.

They can't keep throwing money at players and down the drain if they don't win anything. They don't have an unlimited budget either and there's financial fair play rules that come into effect that prohibit them going crazy. I suspect they've already spent most if not all of what they were going to (or are allowed to) unless they unload some other players. I don't think them spending more money is the issue though. If they can't work with the squad and manager they've got now then nothing will work.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools

Money can't bring teamwork, however. Man Utd have already spent huge, literally breaking world records of spending to bring in Pogba. They shouldn't be losing to teams like Brighton. Jose needs to go.

the problem is the money spent on pogba was not well spent because when you see him performing from game to game you see ups and downs, he still yet to show his worth and now the money they spent on him is not considered a lot for this year when you see Liverpool breaking the beank on improving their defense while united is still struggling to build one also the players they got now in attack they are not performing anywhere close to what they did in previous clubs. Mourinho probably need to go but not now not when they are in crisis because i don't think that zidane is the right man to takeover now.

It is not a matter about replacing the coach right now because I do think that Mourinho can still improve this situation. He is a genius and he is the successor of Sir Alex, it was mentioned before that Sir Alex actually want Mourinho to replace him after he retire. However if it is zidane that is going to replace him then I guess there wont be a complain

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 30, 2018, 05:10:24 AM

Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools

Money can't bring teamwork, however. Man Utd have already spent huge, literally breaking world records of spending to bring in Pogba. They shouldn't be losing to teams like Brighton. Jose needs to go.

the problem is the money spent on pogba was not well spent because when you see him performing from game to game you see ups and downs, he still yet to show his worth and now the money they spent on him is not considered a lot for this year when you see Liverpool breaking the beank on improving their defense while united is still struggling to build one also the players they got now in attack they are not performing anywhere close to what they did in previous clubs. Mourinho propably need to go but not now not when they are in crisis because i don't think that zidane is the right man to takeover now.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools

Money can't bring teamwork, however. Man Utd have already spent huge, literally breaking world records of spending to bring in Pogba. They shouldn't be losing to teams like Brighton. Jose needs to go.

I would rather have him on board rather than some second tier coach to coach Manchester United. The last game was really depressing and Im not going to deny that even when I am a fans of them. The last game against Tottenham was a proof that Manchester United this season is no where compared to what they are last season although last season was quite dissapointing for me as well

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Quote from: Aqualung89 on August 28, 2018, 05:38:11 PM

Man. United 2 matches are showing off a very bad game showing a formless team so obviously Harry Kane is still a more solid man is a very good striker for me. Every loss he's going to do after that will be a big problem, Man. For United.

One of Tottenham main player Son heung min is even not play on that match, yet tottenham still managed to win on that match against Man united. Pochettino > Mourinho.

I don't think Son would've made that big of an impact anyways, it seems like you just need a couple of decent players to get past the atrocious Man Utd defence (see the game vs Brighton).

"Pochettino > Mourinho" hmm, only during the past couple of season. Poch is far from being at the same level as Mourinho, at least in terms of success and titles.

Yup, but you gotta admit, Poch at Man United would be awesome. But the club has to be ready to go thru a big transistion tho. Poch will def get rid of the older players and play the young ones, and acquire long term prospects.

Anyway, Martial is sorting out his contract at Man United and could possibily extend and pledge his future with the club. Looks like there could be some progress going on behind the scenes sith Mou, the board and the players.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools

Money can't bring teamwork, however. Man Utd have already spent huge, literally breaking world records of spending to bring in Pogba. They shouldn't be losing to teams like Brighton. Jose needs to go.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 30, 2018, 01:45:28 AM

Quote from: shanem on August 29, 2018, 10:56:35 PM

Burnley form may be poor but Burnley at home is always a banana skin to top clubs. Furthermore, Man United have failed to keep a clean sheet this season and their star players are not performing. Man United should be able to win narrowly as Burnley have a Europa League playoff match today and their players will be tired for the Sunday game.

Exactly my thoughts. Burnley were last season's surprise hit, and remember that they started so well and then that form ran out later, so perhaps it is a case of the opposite this season. You don't want to play a team like Burnley at home, you know they will defend and hit you on the odd chance every time they can break. Tired by Sunday? No way. You don't need 1 week at this level to recover.

And this is talking about the home team. The away team, United, have lost 2 games home and away, both completely unexpected in the scoreline and the way they played.

I guess that match Burnley vs Man United will have so many goals. With the current condition on Man United and Burnley, both teams are not have a good run so far on the last 3 matches premier league. I don't think Man United lose with 3 streak loss though. Maybe a draw result.

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Quote from: shanem on August 29, 2018, 10:56:35 PM

Burnley form may be poor but Burnley at home is always a banana skin to top clubs. Furthermore, Man United have failed to keep a clean sheet this season and their star players are not performing. Man United should be able to win narrowly as Burnley have a Europa League playoff match today and their players will be tired for the Sunday game.

Exactly my thoughts. Burnley were last season's surprise hit, and remember that they started so well and then that form ran out later, so perhaps it is a case of the opposite this season. You don't want to play a team like Burnley at home, you know they will defend and hit you on the odd chance every time they can break. Tired by Sunday? No way. You don't need 1 week at this level to recover.

And this is talking about the home team. The away team, United, have lost 2 games home and away, both completely unexpected in the scoreline and the way they played.

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Quote from: BitSat on August 29, 2018, 07:32:45 PM

Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

Quote from: Sutters Mill on August 29, 2018, 03:44:46 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 29, 2018, 02:34:27 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/anthony-martial-set-to-sign-five-year-deal-in-belief-he-will-outlast-jose-mourinho-at-manchester-united-vfftl9hjh

"United have offered a new five-year deal to Martial and are hopeful that the Frenchman will sign it even though Mourinho does not want the forward at the club."

Now this I don't understand. Jose wants him out, but the board offer him a new contract. If you are just going to undermine everything he tries to do, why even keep him as a manager?

Maybe they do plan to get rid of Jose? Martial isn't that great in my opinion. Lukaku and Sanchez are far better. United will probably win against Burnley this weekend and then return to form and then the talk of Jose leaving will probably be forgotten. I'd only like to see him go if Zidane replaces him personally. Anyone else would be lackluster.

Quote from: Pab on August 29, 2018, 02:40:27 PM

That news came from Daily Mail.Good title to click.Next coach will be Zidane
Daily Mail is not best source of information

That's what I said. Pay no mind on tabloid speculation. They'll print whatever sounds juicy to sell some papers.

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools and the policy of changing coaches will not work, especially as the alternative Zidane is unconvincing in my eyes he had an already good team and he didn't had to make big decisions also best thing for him he had extreme luck. for now Mourinho is still with United next game with burnley will be the key for his survival. if he failed to win then it's time for the change zidane is not the only name mentioned to be close to manage United Belgium national team manager Roberto martinez is also recently name popped out.

Manchester United can bounce back from this bad start in this week match as Burnley is also have some worst start and fail to win any match and this can give them some good boost as they need some good come back now Champions League draw is also coming as extra work for them but they are capable to do this all and if they fail and need to change manager then surely I will go with Roberto Martinez as he can bring some good change for them instead of Zidane.

Burnley form may be poor but Burnley at home is always a banana skin to top clubs. Furthermore, Man United have failed to keep a clean sheet this season and their star players are not performing. Man United should be able to win narrowly as Burnley have a Europa League playoff match today and their players will be tired for the Sunday game.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 29, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

Quote from: Sutters Mill on August 29, 2018, 03:44:46 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 29, 2018, 02:34:27 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/anthony-martial-set-to-sign-five-year-deal-in-belief-he-will-outlast-jose-mourinho-at-manchester-united-vfftl9hjh

"United have offered a new five-year deal to Martial and are hopeful that the Frenchman will sign it even though Mourinho does not want the forward at the club."

Now this I don't understand. Jose wants him out, but the board offer him a new contract. If you are just going to undermine everything he tries to do, why even keep him as a manager?

Maybe they do plan to get rid of Jose? Martial isn't that great in my opinion. Lukaku and Sanchez are far better. United will probably win against Burnley this weekend and then return to form and then the talk of Jose leaving will probably be forgotten. I'd only like to see him go if Zidane replaces him personally. Anyone else would be lackluster.

Quote from: Pab on August 29, 2018, 02:40:27 PM

That news came from Daily Mail.Good title to click.Next coach will be Zidane
Daily Mail is not best source of information

That's what I said. Pay no mind on tabloid speculation. They'll print whatever sounds juicy to sell some papers.

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools and the policy of changing coaches will not work, especially as the alternative Zidane is unconvincing in my eyes he had an already good team and he didn't had to make big decisions also best thing for him he had extreme luck. for now Mourinho is still with United next game with burnley will be the key for his survival. if he failed to win then it's time for the change zidane is not the only name mentioned to be close to manage United Belgium national team manager Roberto martinez is also recently name popped out.

Manchester United can bounce back from this bad start in this week match as Burnley is also have some worst start and fail to win any match and this can give them some good boost as they need some good come back now Champions League draw is also coming as extra work for them but they are capable to do this all and if they fail and need to change manager then surely I will go with Roberto Martinez as he can bring some good change for them instead of Zidane.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on August 29, 2018, 03:44:46 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 29, 2018, 02:34:27 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/anthony-martial-set-to-sign-five-year-deal-in-belief-he-will-outlast-jose-mourinho-at-manchester-united-vfftl9hjh

"United have offered a new five-year deal to Martial and are hopeful that the Frenchman will sign it even though Mourinho does not want the forward at the club."

Now this I don't understand. Jose wants him out, but the board offer him a new contract. If you are just going to undermine everything he tries to do, why even keep him as a manager?

Maybe they do plan to get rid of Jose? Martial isn't that great in my opinion. Lukaku and Sanchez are far better. United will probably win against Burnley this weekend and then return to form and then the talk of Jose leaving will probably be forgotten. I'd only like to see him go if Zidane replaces him personally. Anyone else would be lackluster.

Quote from: Pab on August 29, 2018, 02:40:27 PM

That news came from Daily Mail.Good title to click.Next coach will be Zidane
Daily Mail is not best source of information

That's what I said. Pay no mind on tabloid speculation. They'll print whatever sounds juicy to sell some papers.

United have a huge budget and can make a comeback since money can bring trophy's but United must be patient on Jose and give him the tools and the policy of changing coaches will not work, especially as the alternative Zidane is unconvincing in my eyes he had an already good team and he didn't had to make big decisions also best thing for him he had extreme luck. for now Mourinho is still with United next game with burnley will be the key for his survival. if he failed to win then it's time for the change zidane is not the only name mentioned to be close to manage United Belgium national team manager Roberto martinez is also recently name popped out.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 29, 2018, 02:34:27 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/anthony-martial-set-to-sign-five-year-deal-in-belief-he-will-outlast-jose-mourinho-at-manchester-united-vfftl9hjh

"United have offered a new five-year deal to Martial and are hopeful that the Frenchman will sign it even though Mourinho does not want the forward at the club."

Now this I don't understand. Jose wants him out, but the board offer him a new contract. If you are just going to undermine everything he tries to do, why even keep him as a manager?

Maybe they do plan to get rid of Jose? Martial isn't that great in my opinion. Lukaku and Sanchez are far better. United will probably win against Burnley this weekend and then return to form and then the talk of Jose leaving will probably be forgotten. I'd only like to see him go if Zidane replaces him personally. Anyone else would be lackluster.

Quote from: Pab on August 29, 2018, 02:40:27 PM

That news came from Daily Mail.Good title to click.Next coach will be Zidane
Daily Mail is not best source of information

That's what I said. Pay no mind on tabloid speculation. They'll print whatever sounds juicy to sell some papers.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on August 29, 2018, 01:47:53 PM

Quote from: Wendigo on August 29, 2018, 01:19:11 PM

I guess the manager is doomed when the players and staff start talking about him getting the boot as soon as the next match: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793177-manchester-united-players-reportedly-think-jose-mourinho-is-1-loss-from-the-sack

Source is needed. I wouldn't listen to unreliable tabloid speculation. They just write this stuff to get hits and traffic:

Quote from: Wendigo on August 29, 2018, 01:19:11 PM

Allegedly the board still has faith in Mourinho while his players and staff think he will get sacked after 1 more loss and his successor will be Zidane.

I'd like to see Zidane there if Jose does get sacked, but like I said a couple of pages ago I'd be surprised if he wins anything and he'll likely just end up in the same situation as Gaal and Jose a couple years into his tenure. They shouyld stick it out with Jose for the time being in my opinion.

That news came from Daily Mail.Good title to click.Next coach will be Zidane
Daily Mail is not best source of information
It may happen but i don't think it will happen just after few first games

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/anthony-martial-set-to-sign-five-year-deal-in-belief-he-will-outlast-jose-mourinho-at-manchester-united-vfftl9hjh

"United have offered a new five-year deal to Martial and are hopeful that the Frenchman will sign it even though Mourinho does not want the forward at the club."

Now this I don't understand. Jose wants him out, but the board offer him a new contract. If you are just going to undermine everything he tries to do, why even keep him as a manager?

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Quote from: Wendigo on August 29, 2018, 01:19:11 PM

I guess the manager is doomed when the players and staff start talking about him getting the boot as soon as the next match: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793177-manchester-united-players-reportedly-think-jose-mourinho-is-1-loss-from-the-sack

Source is needed. I wouldn't listen to unreliable tabloid speculation. They just write this stuff to get hits and traffic:

Quote from: Wendigo on August 29, 2018, 01:19:11 PM

Allegedly the board still has faith in Mourinho while his players and staff think he will get sacked after 1 more loss and his successor will be Zidane.

I'd like to see Zidane there if Jose does get sacked, but like I said a couple of pages ago I'd be surprised if he wins anything and he'll likely just end up in the same situation as Gaal and Jose a couple years into his tenure. They shouyld stick it out with Jose for the time being in my opinion.

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