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Topic: President of BFL is a photographer by trade ? (Read 8010 times)

newbie
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September 23, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
#52
So this guy gets convicted of lottery fraud by taking money in advance from victims and promising them a larger payout. What he ends up doing is paying out smaller than promised using the money from his latest victims.

Now he is taking pre-orders on devices promising purchasers a level of performance that will forever change bitcoin mining, but with no actual proof of concept.

Apples to apples this guy releases a product that underperforms based on the companies hype. It's actually perfect timing for a scam of this magnitude as the payout is about to halve.

He may have a track record with previous devices (and has also released underperforming products), but I think we've all learned that in the BTC community, track records are trivial measures of honesty.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1006
Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
September 21, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
#51
Yes
This is Very Very interesting!

Here is a list of Mosis Fab schedule. I wonder if BFL is using Mosis.

http://www.mosis.com/products/fab-schedule
donator
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Assholier-than-thou retard magnet
September 21, 2012, 04:56:57 PM
#50
Yes
Thanks for clearing that up Inaba.

Maybe he was answering "Yes" to another post.  Ask him what the licensing cost was. ;>

For extra credit, ask how often it crashed or produced incorrect results.
Heh, maybe he used different tools, but I know I've had Cadence/Virtuoso up and decided it wanted to shut down a few times on me, and I haven't used it much. Luckily I was running on an academic license, so cost to me was 0.

If he used different tools, it would have been a great opportunity to mention which tools they were using. :-)

Path to riches: Write chip design or verification software that crashes and has many, many hardcoded special cases.  Sell company to Cadence for $25-50m.  Repeat.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
September 21, 2012, 04:37:20 PM
#49
Yes
Thanks for clearing that up Inaba.

Maybe he was answering "Yes" to another post.  Ask him what the licensing cost was. ;>

For extra credit, ask how often it crashed or produced incorrect results.
Heh, maybe he used different tools, but I know I've had Cadence/Virtuoso up and decided it wanted to shut down a few times on me, and I haven't used it much. Luckily I was running on an academic license, so cost to me was 0.
donator
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Assholier-than-thou retard magnet
September 21, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
#48
Yes
Thanks for clearing that up Inaba.

Maybe he was answering "Yes" to another post.  Ask him what the licensing cost was. ;>

For extra credit, ask how often it crashed or produced incorrect results.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
September 21, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
#47
Yes
Thanks for clearing that up Inaba.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 21, 2012, 02:43:26 PM
#46
Yes
legendary
Activity: 1274
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September 21, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
#45
If your definition of Full Custom is the same as the industries and not the marketing people, then they are the same.  If you are talking about marketing speak "full custom" then yes, they are different.

So, an Engineer from BFL built or at least tweaked by hand the design in something like Cadence's layout tool, starting from the substrate and working through the n-well, n and p active regions, poly metal, etc?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
September 21, 2012, 01:38:15 PM
#44
If your definition of Full Custom is the same as the industries and not the marketing people, then they are the same.  If you are talking about marketing speak "full custom" then yes, they are different.

hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
September 21, 2012, 07:35:02 AM
#43

The BFL definition of 'FULL' Custom and the technical term 'FULL Custom' are likely to be slightly differing in their meaning.
full member
Activity: 163
Merit: 100
September 20, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
#41
[recap]

3. Sonny C. Vleisides was convicted for an elaborate scam in 2007.
http://northridge.patch.com/articles/5th-defendant-in-lottery-scam-to-be-sentenced (and numerous other sources)

Legit Level based on current material: meh.

Really? wow. This is bad. I'm rethinking if I should have ordered from btcfpga instead.

Yea, this is making me concerned about the preorders I've made.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Wat
September 20, 2012, 06:47:42 AM
#40
FYI, we're not arguing that they're the same. Some evidence (not convincingly much) indicates that they are related.

The important question is whether the Chris Vleisides who is the president/director of BFL is actually Sonny Chris Vleisides the convicted felon. It's already been confirmed by BFL that Sonny works there, so it seems highly likely that they're one and the same.  There's no reason to believe that Chris the photographer is associated with Sonny or BFL in any way, though



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109349.120  its been confirmed.











hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
September 20, 2012, 06:43:10 AM
#39
FYI, we're not arguing that they're the same. Some evidence (not convincingly much) indicates that they are related.

The important question is whether the Chris Vleisides who is the president/director of BFL is actually Sonny Chris Vleisides the convicted felon. It's already been confirmed by BFL that Sonny works there, so it seems highly likely that they're one and the same.  There's no reason to believe that Chris the photographer is associated with Sonny or BFL in any way, though
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
September 20, 2012, 05:25:05 AM
#38
FYI, Chris Vleisides the photographer says on his LinkedIn page that he's been a commercial photographer since the early 1970's - Sonny Vleisides the convicted felon was born in 1971. Unlikely to be the same guy. Unfortunate coincidence.

However, some of the proceeds of the scam were apparently sent to Connie and Gabriel Vleisides of KC, MO on or about 7/26/2003.

There's also a Gregory Vleisides in the KC area who's an attorney and not apparently connected to Sonny's scam.

FYI, we're not arguing that they're the same. Some evidence (not convincingly much) indicates that they are related.
member
Activity: 113
Merit: 10
September 20, 2012, 03:28:00 AM
#37
FYI, Chris Vleisides the photographer says on his LinkedIn page that he's been a commercial photographer since the early 1970's - Sonny Vleisides the convicted felon was born in 1971. Unlikely to be the same guy. Unfortunate coincidence.

However, some of the proceeds of the scam were apparently sent to Connie and Gabriel Vleisides of KC, MO on or about 7/26/2003.

There's also a Gregory Vleisides in the KC area who's an attorney and not apparently connected to Sonny's scam.
donator
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Assholier-than-thou retard magnet
September 20, 2012, 02:20:12 AM
#36
[recap]

3. Sonny C. Vleisides was convicted for an elaborate scam in 2007.
http://northridge.patch.com/articles/5th-defendant-in-lottery-scam-to-be-sentenced (and numerous other sources)

Legit Level based on current material: meh.

Really? wow. This is bad. I'm rethinking if I should have ordered from btcfpga instead.

Tom insults you less when you ask for a revised shipping date when he's late.  Then he sends it to you and offers you a partial refund, which is an evil ploy to get you to place another order.

Some people pay for rough trade.  It's all up to your preferences.  I am not here to judge.  Just remember your safe word.  FLÜGGÅƎNK∂€ČHIŒβØL∫ÊN.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Wat
September 20, 2012, 02:03:40 AM
#35
This whole thing reminds me of bitdaytrade. Alberto Armandi was involved in a massive scam prior to setting up bitscalper and other businesses and then proceeded to scam massive amonts of bitcoins.

Fuck.
mem
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 501
Herp Derp PTY LTD
September 19, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
#34

Legit Level based on current material: meh.

Wait, are you implying that there might be something strange about a company that requires preorders to be paid in full, will not issue any refunds until a mythical shipping date, does not have a real adress, has both company and domain registration done through proxy registrars and has a phone # assigned to a single mobile phone?



LMAO, how dare you !!!!!
Any moment now a shrill Inaba will be screaming at you in an elaborate 2 page long e-tantrum (that has absolutely no content just hot air).

Seriously though, Inaba is an immature unstable ass hat of the same vein as MNW, anyone trusting him deserves to get burnt.
Inaba, BFL, Pirate are ugly ugly stains on the bitcoin community.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
September 19, 2012, 06:23:36 AM
#33
Oh lawdy.
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