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Topic: **PRESIDENT TRUMP**OFFICIAL THREAD***TRUMP COIN***OFFICIAL THREAD - page 70. (Read 268493 times)

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I would suggest if people have arguments, discrepancies or bones to pick with a specific member it would be best to use the ol' PM button

I'm not taking a side but its unwise to force new investors looking to put their money in the coin to scroll through pages and pages of bickering or contention.

Let's keep the thread amicable boys

Pointless arguments too
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I would suggest if people have arguments, discrepancies or bones to pick with a specific member it would be best to use the ol' PM button

I'm not taking a side but its unwise to force new investors looking to put their money in the coin to scroll through pages and pages of bickering or contention.

Let's keep the thread amicable boys


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Maybe if I did something wrong you could ban me.

Do you have some logical reason or valid point where I did anything wrong?  I will change my ways.  But I think I have contributed many good comments and suggestions.  They both know I have passion.  And they both know I have held back lots of ammo I could use if I was an emotional type. 

    Instead it should be clear what my focus is.

     I think Trump would be upset by your comment New World Order.  Seems a little un American don't you think?
    I will stop posting voluntarily for a few days or weeks if it makes you feel better but how does that help when you turn away people who are trying to contribute.  ?
     
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chicken65 or can'tstump is there anyway to ban this guy he is nothing but trouble!
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all,
     The reason I brought out that I have friends with money is because I think we are missing the point and the opportunity in part with this project.  So now I get attacked and am accused of being against the project and now I have enemies and I do not understand crypto coins.  How tragically typical.  Good luck Trump.  Good luck America  you see what you are up against.  You will need it.  That's never happened in history before. haha
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Chicken65,
     I will clarify,  I was joking when I said "Hey Trump come get your wallet it is ready"  But it was to make the point of that he should have them in his hand to do with as he pleases.  And others agreed.  So no harm no foul on that one okay?  Thanks and sorry I didn't put haha next to it or something
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How do we have any proof you will turn over those trumps when they go up.

I have gotten messages from you to stop talking about the paper wallet after people have supported the idea

How do I know you will give those trumps to trump?
How do I know you are not sabotaging this coin?

Not trying to attack you personally

And being all over the place doesn't even makes sense as a criticism.  So now I must walk in the straight line you suggest?

You are a hidden dev or former dev.  So let's try to keep forward progress.  Put your glorious personalities aside and please focus on the super pac it is a great idea.
   I personally think you need to do something with the trump fund or show your identity.
 
    And by the way, I would also like an apology from you for asking me if making comments here in good faith is somehow an attack on the project.  I mean really??  Wow, what a delicacy you have I am so sorry.  And I do not need your appoligy but you kinda seem like a hot head when you say those things and I think investors prefer a dev with more even keel.  JMHO
 
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I do not base my comments upon fear.  I did not even think what the lib media would say.

    So you suggest that we should run our lives to be politically correct?  Or should we do what is needed and right?

     There is a need.  I am suggesting my thoughts.  And now I feel like you are trying to stifle the debate.  And saying nothing personal after a personal attack doesn't fool everyone just so you know.
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insomniak,  I second you idea  Really good!  We should change our motto to "Trump come claim your wallet it is ready".  And then when he does folks can donate to the official trumpcoin trump wallet and donate they will.  Just that simple act of him doing that is more than an acknowledgement. 

Km94, That is why I think we should give him the coins now.  But also those laws may not actually be applicable in this case since the value is perceived...just my opinion not legal advice.

ARE YOU INTENTIONALLY WORKING AGAINST THE PROJECT?

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Trump come claim your wallet it is ready

That should be the new Motto.  Huh Lib Media: CROOKED TRUMP WORKING IN THE DARK INTERNET
Not Trump or anyone from his team can sit and trade the coin and claim it as a donation. Even if they could they
are running a Presidential election for chrissssss sake. Imagine how much ammo you would be handing Trumps
enemies.

You might woefully ignorant of Crypto and the politcial process. I really dont know.
Nothing personal man, but this is just crazy stuff your comining out with.

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You guys do realize that there is a limit on donations right? Only a superpac can donate more than $2,700 if I remember correctly. I don't know how this would be looked upon by the campaign.

I just pulled this from the site "As the proud new owner of a super PAC, you are permitted to raise unlimited amounts of money from people including your friends, neighbors and families."

Yes Yes Yes
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New world order,
    The only thing I see that I wrote about you was that I do not think you are a business maverick.  If that hurts your feelings then I am sorry.
 
  The rest of what you say is curious.  Both our comments are public record.  The readers can decide.
 
    What I find interesting is how you respond and then say it is you last response.  So then what you are saying is it matters not any thing I say right here.
    That is like saying something extreme and then running out of the room before anyone can respond.  So now I will call you a something Coward.  Because you should not be scared of words.  I said you improve.  Was that bad?
   I asked if we can improve together?  Was that bad?

I do not know you.  And that is okay.  I like what you have done so far I just think that for you to ask me for 6 million usd dollars when you do not know me kinda shows that you are new to the world of business.  If I am wrong okay then I am wrong.  I reserve the right to be wrong.
 
  Now you act like you wish to be my enemy.  I do not recomend this because there is not cause.  I think maybe you are caught up in being insulted and missed my point.  There is actually no insult there.  If you took it that way I am truly very sorry about this.  Can you forgive me?

Lastly, I am very new to this project so before you demand a pissing contest because of your wonderful facebook pages you have made please remember that I am not a whale, I have less coins than most of you and yet I am knocking myself out trying to give valuable info to this group.

    Was I wrong to want be your friend?  CAn you ever forgive me for this?

Lastly again, I did not ever say I was leaving that may be what you thought but I did not type that.  I am only saying I am getting frustrated.  And my reasons are typed out for the world to see.

     And I just bought the 2 webpages last night after signal7 made his excellent suggestion to the group.  So I do not know how you can expect me to compete (didn't know this was a competition) with you who has been here since day one.

    And now that you mention you are a whale I understand why you will like my friends to drop 6 million into your pond.  Sorry if you are upset.  I hope you can get over it for the good of the group such as it is.
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You guys do realize that there is a limit on donations right? Only a superpac can donate more than $2,700 if I remember correctly. I don't know how this would be looked upon by the campaign.

I just pulled this from the site "As the proud new owner of a super PAC, you are permitted to raise unlimited amounts of money from people including your friends, neighbors and families."
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New World Order,
     One more thing:  have you ever tried to get money from a millionaire?  Forget about billionaire for a second.  But let's talk just millionaires.
    They are tighter than a drum!  I have a story where my uncle was being cared for by my myself and other family.  And first off I really liked this guy okay.  I have a lot of respect for this man really, a lot.  And we saved him and his fortune from his ex.  anyway, one day he is asked if he would like to contribute to the expenses after months of us taking care of him in the home 3 hot meals a day and the best bedroom, etc.  And he said yes.  We were all shocked.  Silence crept over the land and we waited... the next thing he said was go ahead and take 5 dollars a week for yourself.  So while all millionaires may have arrived differently.  This man was the guy who came over to read our newspapers, drank our coffee and used our pencils because it was cheaper than using his own.  After 30 years he was rich.  Then he trusted us to save his life and fortune from the gal he married who had designs of her own you may say.
     So I imagine that the big money will prefer to buy a ton of these trumps right before they rise and then sell at the peak.  Any want to argue that point?  So our job will be to convince others to buy in the mean time and there must be a reason.  I cannot type here all day.  But let's understand that billionaires are probably even more tight.  I know mine are.  And I like it that way.  
     So you will probably get free advice from them on how to be a billionaire before you will get 20 USD.  And that is because it takes hard work and they know that because that is what they did.
     My uncle worked hard to be so cheap.  And Trump works hard to have what he has.  If you spend 20USD on his books you might learn how to become wealthy but it will require you r hard work over time.
     I spent lots of time in college trying to do business with my friends and relative and that does not work.  You cannot teach honesty.  Either you know honesty is the best policy or you do not.  Either you know that you can do more sucess with honesty than you can with dishonesty or you do not.  You will have difficulty converting people who are convinced one way or the other.  The trick is to know who you are talking to and act accordingly for your own interests.  Bitbobb out
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insomniak,  I second you idea  Really good!  We should change our motto to "Trump come claim your wallet it is ready".  And then when he does folks can donate to the official trumpcoin trump wallet and donate they will.  Just that simple act of him doing that is more than an acknowledgement. 

Km94, That is why I think we should give him the coins now.  But also those laws may not actually be applicable in this case since the value is perceived...just my opinion not legal advice.
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Trump will have no problem with investors making some money, but hes going to have a problem with a 200k fund from a supply of 6.5 million. He’s not stupid, look at it from his point of view.
Imagine you spoke with Trump and explained the situation. He’s interested and then he asks how many coins are in the Trump Fund - 200k Mr Trump  Undecided what would you say? He would of course
reject that straight away.
He would expect instant negotiation and far more coins than 200k - not for greed, but for how it appears politically. We have to make this look far more appealing. We are
a peoples Superpac, so we have to approach it like that.

This is 100% speculation.

From his point of view his campaign would be receiving the liquidation proceeds of 200,000 Trumpcoins * X with X = the market value of Trumpcoin at the time.
If the coin reaches $2, that's a pretty sizable chunk of money from a group and technology he truly knows very little (possibly zero) about. It's absurd to assume he or his team will download a wallet, manage his coins and use c-cex to navigate the trading scene and liquid his coins to btc, then liquidate his btc to USD. It's NOT absurd that a SuperPAC of Trump's choosing would accept a check for $400,000 on behalf of the Trumpcoin project. Now imagine $5 a coin..$10?

The fact that the "sell off" of the 200k would be a manageable amount (compared to the total amount of coins) would ensure that the coins value would not be crippled and would recover. Trumpcoins value could survive a few hundred thousand coins being liquidated (whales have dumped before and Trumpcoin survived).
This allows the coin to reach a certain valuation -> the Trumpfund is liquidated to btc -> then to USD -> then donated to a SuperPAC* of Donald's choosing. -> The 200k coins are now back in circulation, since they were sold on an exchange. We now, as a group begin donating Trumpcoins back to the campaign funding wallet until it reaches 200k again. With our new wallet of campaign Trumpcoins we can wait until the value of the coin reaches BACK to an acceptable level again and repeat the whole process again, as many times as needed - this allows the coin to exist forever as a campaign funding tool while still gaining value and existing forever. Once Trump takes office, we can use the PAC to raise money for Trump endorsed politicial campaigns, charity's that Trump supports or help back Trump-inspired start-ups or or what-have-you.

I don't disagree that we can improve on 200k, but I wouldn't go overboard or you could kill the longevity of the coin and the incentive for new adapters to join us (volume is already by far our largest concern).

*I believe a donation this size will need to be given to a superpac

You guys do realize that there is a limit on donations right? Only a superpac can donate more than $2,700 if I remember correctly. I don't know how this would be looked upon by the campaign.
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I'm just thinking out loud here. It sounds like everything is moving in the right direction overall. I agree the 200k set aside for Mr. Trump is pretty small, but I think we could reframe it and use it to our advantage to get more people on board. Rather than try to get one large lump-sum to Trump right away or have people donate directly to him, what if we use the 200k as a starting point, and then set up a donation fund to add to that. Then that becomes a marketing point: buy TrumpCoins and donate some to Donald's campaign. This does two things - it helps boost the total number of coins that will ultimately be donated AND it gives someone interested in the coin a greater purpose. A "call to action." It's easier to explain to someone "hey you can buy these coins and donate some to the Trump campaign" rather than "buy these coins because supply and demand + value etc etc ... profit." I know there's an explanation on the site about how the donations work, but if we could boil it down as simple as "move your donation coins here," I think that would help get more people on board. It simplifies things, gives the average person a sense of purpose and contribution, and it builds the total coins (and value) we end up donating to Mr. Trump. We could even add a "Total TrumpCoin Donations" counter to the website.
Lots of small coin donations could build that initial 200k to something very substantial. Plus, when it comes time to send the donation to the campaign, it'll feel more like a contribution from hundreds, if not thousands of supporters. The PEOPLE. Everybody can play a part and contribute, and I think that could give more people purpose and incentive to get on board.
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The dev missed some golden opportunities. Trump coin didn't rally when Trump won several key events. This coin has had its run up to 18k and some people didn't sell. Now this coin has taken on a different motto from "Make America Great Again" to "Hope and Change". This should be renamed to Obama coin. Because some of you "Hope" Trump will somehow recognize this coin. While the Dev has "Change(d)" leadership. This coin is heading the way most alt coins usually goes. The fighting on here is a sure sign. Even the Dev is sending foul mouth emails.  Grin
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