Preventing newbies to start new threads!

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Quote from: freedomno1 on January 12, 2015, 01:49:43 AM

Quote from: cbeast on January 12, 2015, 01:21:28 AM

Seeing the trolls in the beginners section would be a good place to learn about the ignore button.

True enough but also scare the beejus out of the newest Bitcoin users on a continuous basis
Kind of gives a bad impression right off the bat at least in the altcoin section they have to navigate their way to it, but to be fair the whitelist would be the same as a newbie ban on all areas of the forum but beginners, just a small edit in that they can post in all forums not just newbies but can't create a topic out of newbies without some approval/time.

Yeah people will get really scared from troll threads in the beginners section, compared to the ones in Bitcoin discussion. Roll Eyes

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Quote from: cbeast on January 12, 2015, 01:21:28 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 12, 2015, 12:56:36 AM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 05:11:17 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 02:48:51 PM

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

But then the scammers would just post unrelated spam in the beginners and help section saying stuff like "I'm sorry, but I can't post anywhere else except here, give me a loan please.

It's easier to moderate 1 subforum than have spam in every subforum, is it not?

Seeing the trolls in the beginners section would be a good place to learn about the ignore button.

True enough but also scare the beejus out of the newest Bitcoin users on a continuous basis
Kind of gives a bad impression right off the bat at least in the altcoin section they have to navigate their way to it, but to be fair the whitelist would be the same as a newbie ban on all areas of the forum but beginners, just a small edit in that they can post in all forums not just newbies but can't create a topic out of newbies without some approval/time.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 12, 2015, 12:56:36 AM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 05:11:17 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 02:48:51 PM

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

But then the scammers would just post unrelated spam in the beginners and help section saying stuff like "I'm sorry, but I can't post anywhere else except here, give me a loan please.

It's easier to moderate 1 subforum than have spam in every subforum, is it not?

Seeing the trolls in the beginners section would be a good place to learn about the ignore button.

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Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 05:11:17 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 02:48:51 PM

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

But then the scammers would just post unrelated spam in the beginners and help section saying stuff like "I'm sorry, but I can't post anywhere else except here, give me a loan please.

It's easier to moderate 1 subforum than have spam in every subforum, is it not?

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Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 02:48:51 PM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 02:19:48 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 11, 2015, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 07:56:29 AM

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

My point exactly!

But what if a newbie wants to ask a question about this forum or bitcoin? Ask the question in a thread completely unrelated to the question?

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

HA! just realized i've had you on ignore more than 12 months

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Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 02:48:51 PM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 02:19:48 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 11, 2015, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 07:56:29 AM

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

My point exactly!

But what if a newbie wants to ask a question about this forum or bitcoin? Ask the question in a thread completely unrelated to the question?

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

But then the scammers would just post unrelated spam in the beginners and help section saying stuff like "I'm sorry, but I can't post anywhere else except here, give me a loan please.

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Quote from: Superhitech on January 11, 2015, 02:19:48 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 11, 2015, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 07:56:29 AM

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

My point exactly!

But what if a newbie wants to ask a question about this forum or bitcoin? Ask the question in a thread completely unrelated to the question?

Here is your answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

That's the only place they should be allowed to start a new thread.

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Quote from: spartak_t on January 11, 2015, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 07:56:29 AM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 10, 2015, 11:10:34 PM

I don't agree with this. There are some honest newbies, remember we all started out as newbies once. However, I do agree that we need to do something about scams, but I do not think this will work. If this becomes a rule, scammers are just going to buy junior member accounts for 0.01 which is relatively cheap.

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

My point exactly!

But what if a newbie wants to ask a question about this forum or bitcoin? Ask the question in a thread completely unrelated to the question?

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Quote from: Lauda on January 11, 2015, 07:56:29 AM

Quote from: Superhitech on January 10, 2015, 11:10:34 PM

I don't agree with this. There are some honest newbies, remember we all started out as newbies once. However, I do agree that we need to do something about scams, but I do not think this will work. If this becomes a rule, scammers are just going to buy junior member accounts for 0.01 which is relatively cheap.

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

My point exactly!

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Quote from: Superhitech on January 10, 2015, 11:10:34 PM

I don't agree with this. There are some honest newbies, remember we all started out as newbies once. However, I do agree that we need to do something about scams, but I do not think this will work. If this becomes a rule, scammers are just going to buy junior member accounts for 0.01 which is relatively cheap.

You're wrong.
There is no single valid reason for anyone to create a thread on their first day.

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Guys.. you are forgetting something. That measure will surely reduce (not stop) some of the scams. We all know that scammers can find another way, but it will be relatively harder for them. Personally I know a lot of people (I believe you too) who gave up on crypto, because it is now flooded with impudent scammers. Those scammers are affecting the prices of ALL coins as well. Cryptocurrencies market is insecure in general and just imagine how current/future investors should think, looking at all of those scams, which are making it more and more insecure.

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Quote from: Superhitech on January 10, 2015, 11:10:34 PM

I don't agree with this. There are some honest newbies, remember we all started out as newbies once. However, I do agree that we need to do something about scams, but I do not think this will work. If this becomes a rule, scammers are just going to buy junior member accounts for 0.01 which is relatively cheap.

+1. I think it's better to try explaining them when they need explanation & clarification about forum rules as well as Handling bans when they broke such rules. I think also that such kind of rewards could also help policing newbies behaviour & helping root out bad apples from them.

Just my 2 satoshi.

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I don't agree with this. There are some honest newbies, remember we all started out as newbies once. However, I do agree that we need to do something about scams, but I do not think this will work. If this becomes a rule, scammers are just going to buy junior member accounts for 0.01 which is relatively cheap.

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and there it goes a new market coming up , selling BCT accounts Cheesy

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I personally think newbies should not be allowed to post in the Loans section either. Until at least Junior member status. The amount of valid newbie loans are kept at a bare minimal. It's best if they would not be allowed there until they've proven themselves they are a constructive member who didn't spam their way there.

Plus Vod wouldn't have to work as hard Wink

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Quote from: unusualfacts30 on January 10, 2015, 12:07:27 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 10, 2015, 11:43:29 AM

Of course that altcoins (and scams) has something to do with the price of bitcoin. What do you think scammers are doing? Take some BTC, sell them for no matter what price and buy themselves boats. How about prices of abandoned coins? You buy 1BTC worth of shitcoin at 1k satoshi and your investment is $275 (based on BTC current price). What happens when it hit 100 satoshi for example and you still didn't sold?

u can't be serious. lol

Are you aware that $1.8 million worth of bitcoins are being thrown in market on daily basis?

Are you aware that we don't have buyers who'll buy those BTC?

Are you also aware that most of those BTC users look at whole altcoins as SCAMS?

Are you also aware that btctalk accounts can be bought online?

Are you also aware that 0.0008 BTC can get your account unbanned?

Besides everything I've said ..no one knows what's a scam and what's not a scam anymore until you lose money. I thought shadowcash was a scam when it first came out and it has turned out to be pretty good so far.

Yes, anyone who's not aware is ignorant.
Yes we have buyers hence the price not crashing (slow, but acceptable decline).
They are all scams.
Anything and anyone can be bought.
Meh.

Yes, experienced people see a scam from a distance, unless you want a Nigerian Prince to transfer money to your bank account. Cheesy

It would also be beneficial to prevent anyone under full member from starting topics in Bitcoin Discussion.

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Quote from: esotericizm on January 10, 2015, 11:58:04 AM

You know what else is a good idea? Stop investing in scammy coins looking for quick profit and start supporting the ones that have already proven themselves.

If you keep falling for the same old crap then its time to consider making better decisions.

I always tell people when I recommend a coin to check how active the Dev is and how new the devs ideas are and how fair the coin will be distributed and to check all those types of things. Are there a heck of a lot of newbie accounts posting saying this coin is going to be BIG??? Probably not going to happen. Does the Dev answer the communities questions when they ask them because he is dedicated to his coin and making it a success?? NO? You probably shouldn't invest in that coin

These are just a few of the tricks of the trade that I've learned since I started trading because before I used to just follow everyone's tweets on twitter lol And wow was I ever lucky that I didn't go bust the first week trading Wink

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Quote from: unusualfacts30 on January 10, 2015, 12:07:27 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 10, 2015, 11:43:29 AM

Quote from: unusualfacts30 on January 10, 2015, 11:38:17 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 10, 2015, 11:20:18 AM

Quote from: louiseth1 on January 10, 2015, 11:17:57 AM

We're not shutting down especially because of the scams, rather the general health of the markets.

It's harder than ever for us to turn a profit, therefore we halt our operations for the time being. We do realize that most of 2014 coins were scammish and most didn't end up great, but the scams are not the main reason for our closure.

Just wanted to clarify that

Scams are killing the price of good coins and therefore profits so I think it is main reason.

that's like saying altcoins are killing the price of bitcoin.

untrue.

It's not like btctalk sr. member accounts can't be bought. I don't think it's going to stop scammers at all.

Of course that altcoins (and scams) has something to do with the price of bitcoin. What do you think scammers are doing? Take some BTC, sell them for no matter what price and buy themselves boats. How about prices of abandoned coins? You buy 1BTC worth of shitcoin at 1k satoshi and your investment is $275 (based on BTC current price). What happens when it hit 100 satoshi for example and you still didn't sold?

u can't be serious. lol

Are you aware that $1.8 million worth of bitcoins are being thrown in market on daily basis?

Are you aware that we don't have buyers who'll buy those BTC?

Are you also aware that most of those BTC users look at whole altcoins as SCAMS?

Are you also aware that btctalk accounts can be bought online?

Are you also aware that 0.0008 BTC can get your account unbanned?

Besides everything I've said ..no one knows what's a scam and what's not a scam anymore until you lose money. I thought shadowcash was a scam when it first came out and it has turned out to be pretty good so far.

This discussion is not about in what I am aware or not. I just think that it will reduce scams.. not stop them. Talking about awareness is not the smartest thing we can do. I am aware for example that war is illegal (drugs too), but many people have access to them (weapons and drugs).

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Quote from: spartak_t on January 10, 2015, 11:43:29 AM

Quote from: unusualfacts30 on January 10, 2015, 11:38:17 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on January 10, 2015, 11:20:18 AM

Quote from: louiseth1 on January 10, 2015, 11:17:57 AM

We're not shutting down especially because of the scams, rather the general health of the markets.

It's harder than ever for us to turn a profit, therefore we halt our operations for the time being. We do realize that most of 2014 coins were scammish and most didn't end up great, but the scams are not the main reason for our closure.

Just wanted to clarify that

Scams are killing the price of good coins and therefore profits so I think it is main reason.

that's like saying altcoins are killing the price of bitcoin.

untrue.

It's not like btctalk sr. member accounts can't be bought. I don't think it's going to stop scammers at all.

Of course that altcoins (and scams) has something to do with the price of bitcoin. What do you think scammers are doing? Take some BTC, sell them for no matter what price and buy themselves boats. How about prices of abandoned coins? You buy 1BTC worth of shitcoin at 1k satoshi and your investment is $275 (based on BTC current price). What happens when it hit 100 satoshi for example and you still didn't sold?

u can't be serious. lol

Are you aware that $1.8 million worth of bitcoins are being thrown in market on daily basis?

Are you aware that we don't have buyers who'll buy those BTC?

Are you also aware that most of those BTC users look at whole altcoins as SCAMS?

Are you also aware that btctalk accounts can be bought online?

Are you also aware that 0.0008 BTC can get your account unbanned?

Besides everything I've said ..no one knows what's a scam and what's not a scam anymore until you lose money. I thought shadowcash was a scam when it first came out and it has turned out to be pretty good so far.

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Quote from: esotericizm on January 10, 2015, 11:58:04 AM

You know what else is a good idea? Stop investing in scammy coins looking for quick profit and start supporting the ones that have already proven themselves.

If you keep falling for the same old crap then its time to consider making better decisions.

I tweet about that every single day, but I will repeat myself - people in general are sheeps. That is why imo some measures should be made. Many people can't decide for themselves on what to invest and what not to...

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