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September 07, 2013, 05:40:20 AM
#45
Wow you can beat a Corei5 with 99$ computer! That's insane! Shocked
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September 06, 2013, 05:10:45 PM
#44

The Coremark benchmark is not a floating point benchmark, it's main focus is read/write operations, integer operations, and control operations.  Generally speaking the Epiphany coprocessor was designed to do floating point math very quickly.  This test is probably not really a 100% good representation of it's ability of doing integer ops, due to it being biased by other external factors (read/write etc).

The Epiphany 3 with 16 cores has a core mark of: 19478 and costs $99
The Intel Xeon Processor E5-2687W has a core mark of: 400116 and costs $1890 plus say another $400 for a computer build: ~$2290

20 Epiphany 3s would be about the same speed as that Xeon.  and if you built that using their cluster kits, it would cost. ~2875.

Granted you could probably build two or three computers with more total computing power and cheaper than using that insane Xeon, and probably get your costs down even further.

Furthermore, unless you are a coder, you are going to have a bad time.  You won't be able to just drop the primecoin miner into a paralella and hit go.  There will need to be some code rewriting and optimizations done to the code, at very least you will have to significantly edit the make file to make it compile for the coprocessor.

The Epiphany 4 with 64 cores that is not yet available on the other hand has a core mark of: 78748.80 but the price is unknown, as well as the availability.

So right now, i would say No, i don't think the Parallela is a good bet.

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Excellent post! I guess I will stick to the VPS route until the Epiphany 4s come out and see what the price/performance trade-off is there.  Hopefully if it makes sense price/performance, and the gpu miner is not refined to be much more efficient than it currently is, an experienced coder with re-work primecoin miner for the parallela.
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September 06, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
#43
Here's a benchmark i found:


The Coremark benchmark is not a floating point benchmark, it's main focus is read/write operations, integer operations, and control operations.  Generally speaking the Epiphany coprocessor was designed to do floating point math very quickly.  This test is probably not really a 100% good representation of it's ability of doing integer ops, due to it being biased by other external factors (read/write etc).

The Epiphany 3 with 16 cores has a core mark of: 19478 and costs $99
The Intel Xeon Processor E5-2687W has a core mark of: 400116 and costs $1890 plus say another $400 for a computer build: ~$2290

20 Epiphany 3s would be about the same speed as that Xeon.  and if you built that using their cluster kits, it would cost. ~2875.

Granted you could probably build two or three computers with more total computing power and cheaper than using that insane Xeon, and probably get your costs down even further.

Furthermore, unless you are a coder, you are going to have a bad time.  You won't be able to just drop the primecoin miner into a paralella and hit go.  There will need to be some code rewriting and optimizations done to the code, at very least you will have to significantly edit the make file to make it compile for the coprocessor.

The Epiphany 4 with 64 cores that is not yet available on the other hand has a core mark of: 78748.80 but the price is unknown, as well as the availability.

So right now, i would say No, i don't think the Parallela is a good bet.
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September 06, 2013, 04:02:19 AM
#42
Ufffffffffffff.
Parralella is ARM base?
Works with an Linaro Linux?

I guess so. The hardware is not that rare. So you could easily get support.

The parallella board do have a dual ARM core, but the real deal of the parallella is it's 16 core coprocessor (Epiphany).
I am not that sure if it could have a good performance crunching prime chains since it is not the kind of job that benefits much of parallellization (correct me if I am wrong).


I agree. But remember the settings of primeminers that you can specify how many threads to bind? Maybe it could have a good impact.
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September 06, 2013, 01:22:10 AM
#41
Ufffffffffffff.
Parralella is ARM base?
Works with an Linaro Linux?

I guess so. The hardware is not that rare. So you could easily get support.

The parallella board do have a dual ARM core, but the real deal of the parallella is it's 16 core coprocessor (Epiphany).
I am not that sure if it could have a good performance crunching prime chains since it is not the kind of job that benefits much of parallellization (correct me if I am wrong).
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September 05, 2013, 09:33:54 AM
#40
I'm going to buy one to test with mining cpu coins and if its not profitable it becomes my 3d printer host. It should be just as fast if not faster than my 8 core amd slicing stl's into gcode.

Ufffffffffffff.
Parralella is ARM base?
Works with an Linaro Linux?

I guess so. The hardware is not that rare. So you could easily get support.
JLM
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September 05, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
#39
I'm going to buy one to test with mining cpu coins and if its not profitable it becomes my 3d printer host. It should be just as fast if not faster than my 8 core amd slicing stl's into gcode.

Ufffffffffffff.
Parralella is ARM base?
Works with an Linaro Linux?
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September 05, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
#38
I think this can perform as good as a corei7 3770k when using the co-processors.
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September 02, 2013, 11:51:59 AM
#37
I can also think of another project that might be fun with one of these.

Add a usb tv tuner and mythtv and you have a DVR with the processing power to convert to avi on the fly.
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September 02, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
#36
I'm just waiting for mine to arrive from Kickstarter campaign - I'll let you know as soon as it arrives
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September 02, 2013, 11:44:03 AM
#35
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
Hi, post progress.
How you will use it?
CPU mining?

I'm going to buy one to test with mining cpu coins and if its not profitable it becomes my 3d printer host. It should be just as fast if not faster than my 8 core amd slicing stl's into gcode.
Can't you just use a raspberry pi as 3d printer host or too weak?
I can use it to host the printer but not to slice stl's. I have had some models take up to a half hour to slice on my 8 core amd. lol
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September 02, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
#34
Sure! As soon as I get it.
Okay time to bookmark this. Have fun waiting  Tongue
No need to bookmark, just "watch" the thread.
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September 02, 2013, 11:42:44 AM
#33
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
Hi, post progress.
How you will use it?
CPU mining?

I'm going to buy one to test with mining cpu coins and if its not profitable it becomes my 3d printer host. It should be just as fast if not faster than my 8 core amd slicing stl's into gcode.
Can't you just use a raspberry pi as 3d printer host or too weak?
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September 02, 2013, 11:39:37 AM
#32
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
Hi, post progress.
How you will use it?
CPU mining?

I'm going to buy one to test with mining cpu coins and if its not profitable it becomes my 3d printer host. It should be just as fast if not faster than my 8 core amd slicing stl's into gcode.
JLM
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September 02, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
#31
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
Hi, post progress.
How you will use it?
CPU mining?
legendary
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September 01, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
#30
Sure! As soon as I get it.
Okay time to bookmark this. Have fun waiting  Tongue
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September 01, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
#29
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
I know - but it is so cheap relative to high-end GPUs, it might still be a better value.
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September 01, 2013, 12:40:45 PM
#28
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.

I don't mind if it ends up being not cost-effective, I plan to use it for other things too.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 01, 2013, 12:38:02 PM
#27
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
Please update is with info once you recieve one.

Sure! As soon as I get it.
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September 01, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
#26
Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.

I paid for one, and I'm on the preorder list. I'm looking forward to play with it!!
I am very curious to see how it works - would seem like an ideal match on a price/xpm mining basis.
I wonder if this will still be cost-effective now that the gpu miner finally looks like it becoming a reality.
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