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June 20, 2018, 03:15:40 PM
#22
so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??
If none of the material (outdated or current) incentivizes posting, yeah, the thread's fine in that regard.

that one was the only one (forgotten there) incentivizing posting in our ANN thread.
you can search everywhere in our Discord.
Well, it just takes one to fill a thread with thousands of incentivized shit-posts.

This is all understandable completely, but as stated we paid for our mistakes and removed any type of requirement of posts, any incentives of posting on our thread.

It was clearly our mistake to not delete DEAD/DONE giveaways from weeks ago that arent active, that did incentive posting in the thread.

Since then, we had our original ANN deleted. We created a new one and created it to follow all of the rules.


As far as I can see the rule we broke now is by leaving an OLD MESSAGE on our discord for an inactive giveaway. Nothing current, and there will never be any incentive to posting in our thread. We are trying to run a legitimate airdrop program and require no minimum posting and no posts in our thread AT ALL


Do we now have to create another new ANN?



Again, we know we messed up in the beginning and paid for that by losing our first ANN thread. We readjusted everything to properly go with Bitcointalk.org TOS, and now have our 2nd ann removed due to a post from weeks ago.  These posts are gone and again, there will NEVER be any incentive to posting in OUR thread.

Can we please have our thread reopened as we have deleted any OLD message and we are playing by the rules?
Your old thread will not be restored. So, yeah, you're going to have to repost it.
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June 20, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
#21
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It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.
If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.


Why would they flock to a giveaway that isnt even open, active or available. There was no channel to even post "proof" for that giveaway as it was CLOSED weeks ago.  The message was posted 6/02 nobody flocked to anything based on that message.
Because, in practice, that's what they do - go in, see an incentive, do the task and if they don't have a place to post their proof, they pick one at random. At this point I've seen it happen dozens of times.


You're a mod and I respect your decisions.
But this is not fair against a new cryptocoin that is trying to do its best.
We already had an ANN deleted with no reasons at all, and we strictly prohibited to our users to spam in our new ANN thread.
We are also NOT requiring any post in our thread from 4 months. (apparently we did at the start, it was an error)
I don't know where you found that message, but I can assure you no one is watching at it anymore!!
You can search everywhere in our discord, we DON'T require messages in our ANN!
AFAIK this is the first time I deleted your ANN. No idea who did it the first time.

If I'm not mistaken, the message was quoted was in a post on June 6th, two weeks ago. Not exactly 4 months. The fact that, despite the warnings plastered all around, your project ran an altcoin giveaway gives me no reason to feel sympathy for the "new cryptocoin".


This is all understandable completely, but as stated we paid for our mistakes and removed any type of requirement of posts, any incentives of posting on our thread.

It was clearly our mistake to not delete DEAD/DONE giveaways from weeks ago that arent active, that did incentive posting in the thread.

Since then, we had our original ANN deleted. We created a new one and created it to follow all of the rules.


As far as I can see the rule we broke now is by leaving an OLD MESSAGE on our discord for an inactive giveaway. Nothing current, and there will never be any incentive to posting in our thread. We are trying to run a legitimate airdrop program and require no minimum posting and no posts in our thread AT ALL. Any and all old giveaway content is removed.


Do we now have to create another new ANN?



Again, we know we messed up in the beginning and paid for that by losing our first ANN thread. We readjusted everything to properly go with Bitcointalk.org TOS, and now have our 2nd ann removed due to a post from weeks ago.  These posts are gone and again, there will NEVER be any incentive to posting in OUR thread.

Can we please have our thread reopened as we have deleted any OLD message and we are playing by the rules?

We will be 100% certain we follow TOS to the T, as we though we were with the NEW ann... but apparently some old giveaways got us toasted again. It would be very kind of you to reopen the thread.
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June 20, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
#20
ok, thankyou. we will look through our discord and see if we missed anything. if we missed that other message the nthat was a mistake on our part
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June 20, 2018, 03:07:26 PM
#19
so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??
If none of the material (outdated or current) incentivizes posting, yeah, the thread's fine in that regard.

that one was the only one (forgotten there) incentivizing posting in our ANN thread.
you can search everywhere in our Discord.
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June 20, 2018, 03:05:58 PM
#18
so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??
If none of the promotional material (website, Twitter, Discord, etc.; outdated or current) incentivizes posting, yeah, the thread's fine in that regard.
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June 20, 2018, 03:04:02 PM
#17
so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??
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June 20, 2018, 03:03:26 PM
#16
-quote snip-

It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.
If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.


Why would they flock to a giveaway that isnt even open, active or available. There was no channel to even post "proof" for that giveaway as it was CLOSED weeks ago.  The message was posted 6/02 nobody flocked to anything based on that message.
Because, in practice, that's what they do - go in, see an incentive, do the task and if they don't have a place to post their proof, they pick one at random. At this point I've seen it happen dozens of times.


You're a mod and I respect your decisions.
But this is not fair against a new cryptocoin that is trying to do its best.
We already had an ANN deleted with no reasons at all, and we strictly prohibited to our users to spam in our new ANN thread.
We are also NOT requiring any post in our thread from 4 months. (apparently we did at the start, it was an error)
I don't know where you found that message, but I can assure you no one is watching at it anymore!!
You can search everywhere in our discord, we DON'T require messages in our ANN!
AFAIK this is the first time I deleted the project's ANN. No idea who did it the first time.

If I'm not mistaken, the message was quoted in a post made on June 6th, two weeks ago. Not exactly 4 months. The fact that, despite the warnings plastered all around, the project ran an altcoin giveaway gives me no reason to feel sympathy for the "new cryptocoin".
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June 20, 2018, 02:56:52 PM
#15
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.
Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

You're a mod and I respect your decisions.
But this is not fair against a new cryptocoin that is trying to do its best.
We already had an ANN deleted with no reasons at all, and we strictly prohibited to our users to spam in our new ANN thread.
We are also NOT requiring any post in our thread from 4 months. (apparently we did at the start, it was an error)
I don't know where you found that message, but I can assure you no one is watching at it anymore!!
You can search everywhere in our discord, we DON'T require messages in our ANN!

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June 20, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
#14
-quote snip-

It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.
If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.


Why would they flock to a giveaway that isnt even open, active or available. There was no channel to even post "proof" for that giveaway as it was CLOSED weeks ago.  The message was posted 6/02 nobody flocked to anything based on that message.

Im sure users couldnt even see that message.

If anyone flocked to our thread it is to join our legitmate airdrop.
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June 20, 2018, 02:54:10 PM
#13
-quote snip-

It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.
If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.
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June 20, 2018, 02:51:46 PM
#12
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.
Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.


The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it.

I dont know where this information is coming from.
It just got wiped. Was there 5-10 minutes ago.



It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.
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June 20, 2018, 02:48:32 PM
#11
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.
Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.


The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it.

I dont know where this information is coming from.
It just got wiped. Was there 5-10 minutes ago.
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June 20, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
#10
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.
Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.


The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it. EVEN IF IT IS/WAS it was a 2-3 week old CLOSED giveaway.

I dont know where this information is coming from.
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June 20, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
#9
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.
Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.
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June 20, 2018, 02:40:39 PM
#8
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  Undecided
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.
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June 20, 2018, 02:40:07 PM
#7
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.
That message you quoted has been gone for weeks.  That was posted in 6/02/18 before you deleted our first ANN thread.

We readjusted all rules to FOLLOW TOS RULES


We have 0 incentive for any user to make a single post on our thread, and havent had one for weeks.

Whoever sent you that screen shot/text is clearly trying to sabotage our project.


Nothing like that has been posted since.
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June 20, 2018, 02:37:55 PM
#6
From the project's Discord:

Quote
@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person)

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me. Even if the promotion is over / cancelled, that's still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.
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June 20, 2018, 02:14:19 PM
#5
There is 0% incentive for any user to post in our thread, except to add information to it and discuss the topic.

There is no rule stated ANYWHERE or ANYTHING stated, that we require/incentivize users for posting on OUR announcement thread only.

We state we require ACTIVITY on Bitcointalkforums.... ANYWHERE on the forums and NOT STRICTLY in the announcement thread. That is stated directly, that post SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, anywhere but OFF TOPIC.
We do not even state a MINIMUM number of posts on the forums, just that they show they are an active user to receive airdrop.

There is absolutely 0 incentive for making post on our thread specifically. Who ever reported or thought this is incorrect.
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June 20, 2018, 02:03:43 PM
#4
Were you offering an incentive for users to post there? For example, offering them bonus stakes if they posted in the thread. That's generally the reason why announcement topics get removed completely. It doesn't matter if you ask them to only post quality responses either.

Absolutely not!
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June 20, 2018, 02:03:06 PM
#3
Were you offering an incentive for users to post there? For example, offering them bonus stakes if they posted in the thread. That's generally the reason why announcement topics get removed completely. It doesn't matter if you ask them to only post quality responses either.

Is it just because many sour people report the thread over and over?
Or is there an actual explanation as to why our thread keeps getting deleted?
It wouldn't matter if 1000 users reported the thread if it wasn't breaking one of the rules. There's almost certainly an answer for it being deleted multiple times.
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