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July 13, 2017, 01:10:39 AM
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Pro Martial Law or Anti Martial Law? Which is better for the public safety?

 I'm pro in Martial law as long as abusement should not arise. When we look at the good side, it was very helpful. Warrant of arrest is not needed anymore, corrupting Writh of Habeas Corpus. But since warrant is not needed anymore, it was so easy to be abuse by soldiers. I hope that they are responsible enough on implenting it. Btw I'm  speaking from Philippines.
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July 12, 2017, 07:15:56 PM
#18
Pro Martial Law or Anti Martial Law? Which is better for the public safety?
Im a pro martial law but those army who are not in marawi city who fight againts so called isi is just killing each other friendly fire i don't get it how the coordinates can be mistaken and they bomb there own soldiers martial law is easy to understand just follow the rules and everything will be okay.
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July 12, 2017, 05:52:43 PM
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Pro Martial Law or Anti Martial Law? Which is better for the public safety?

I believe the police force already has become over militarized over the recent years.. You see things nowdays already in local law enforcements hands that used to be used during wartime only. IE- Stingrays/Cell site Stimulators. Used to be used to find terrorists hiding in caves, now its used to find anyone, anywhere. Feds have been teaching local law enforcement how to use these devices to take all kinds of data from unsuspecting peoples phones.

Now lets talk civil forfeitures and how much of the FBI's budget comes from money seized from people. Regular people getting stopped with over $10,000 are getting everything taken from them all because of bs laws designed to hurt drug kingpins.

Martial Law would be an all out massacre. People's rights are infringed upon as is enough.
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July 12, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
#16
martial law is needed to supress any act of terorism if it is going out of controll. any country would need it if they dont want their country to be destroyed in times of crisis,

Don't joke around. Governments love to abuse this rights to suppress protesters. On one hand an average citizen that doesn't want to stand against any of the established laws finds martial law to be good, because it forces people off the streets, stops all the hassle and allows to watch TV in peace, but this average citizen is usually a selfish moron, who doesn't get he may one day find himself on the other side of the barricade, facing armed men that want to beat him to a pulp for having an opinion.
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July 12, 2017, 05:11:23 PM
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Usually as seen from the history martial law is not used for what it was made for. In the present world dictators use it to take control over the state, in these scenarios I am against the martial law which affects the roots of democracy.
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July 12, 2017, 08:40:54 AM
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martial law is needed to supress any act of terorism if it is going out of controll. any country would need it if they dont want their country to be destroyed in times of crisis,
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July 12, 2017, 07:11:16 AM
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Martial Law are initaied by dictators and tyrants who seek to control their citizens, it does bring about law and order but it takes away basic human rights from the people.

No, your 101 vocabulary doesnt seem to grasp the concept of martial law.

The martial law concept in the United States is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is related to the imposition of martial law. Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval.

As you can see martial law itself has nothing to do with your government system and all to do with security situation.
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July 11, 2017, 11:26:53 PM
#12
Don't try to bring up such topic without providing certain details. We cannot simply assess Martial Law as black or white. You have to qualify and contextualize Martial Law. Otherwise, Martial Law per se cannot be considered bad or good.

The hows, when, why, and so many other considerations have to be taken into account. Otherwise, we are discussing something with unsound basis.
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July 11, 2017, 10:29:23 PM
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The problem with martial law is that most governments who've implemented it usually does it for the wrong reason. To stay longer in power, to oppress those that oppose them, and all. That puts marshall law in a very bad light where human rights most of the time gets thrown out the window. But i think a lot of us already agrees that it is necessary sometimes in a country that's having a security situation.
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July 11, 2017, 09:14:28 PM
#10
Martial law impedes normal civilian life, but it becomes necessary when the situation is desperate. For example, the imposition of martial law can reduce crime and restore law and order in cities such as Detroit.
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July 11, 2017, 08:52:41 PM
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If you take a look at all Governments, they are promoting at least a mild form of marshal law if they make laws for their citizens to obey.

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July 11, 2017, 07:38:50 PM
#8
Martial law can also be implemented on a local level. The South side of Chicago Illinois in the U.S. for example needs martial law at all times. Their murder rate is so high that it would be justified.

People call it "Chi-raq" for a reason.
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July 11, 2017, 07:32:09 PM
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Pro Martial Law or Anti Martial Law? Which is better for the public safety?

It always depends on the situation, if there is a national threat, then martial law would be great. If your concern is only the public safety, what is the use of the police right?
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July 11, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
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Sometimes martial law is absolutely necessary but it can be quickly abused. After a mass attack, it's important to keep civilians out of harm's way. Yet, if you don't have safegaurds in place and martial law is abused - > it's horrible.
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July 11, 2017, 01:51:21 PM
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There are reasons why there's such a thing as martial law. There are instances when martial law would be deemed necessary like when the country is threatened by an outside force. I don't think people should actually fear martial law if it's implemented for the correct reasons.
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July 10, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
#4
Nobody wants to live under marshal law, what a silly question

I really can't see a time where marshal law would be a good thing

It is usually used to suppress political opposition and gain tighter control of the government... but if there is opposition to the government, there is probably good reason for the opposition, and it shouldn't be suppressed with military force... might does not make right
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July 10, 2017, 06:50:04 PM
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Martial Law are initaied by dictators and tyrants who seek to control their citizens, it does bring about law and order but it takes away basic human rights from the people.

This isn't true as Martial law is sometimes used in order to stop violence from spreading in an area, it can be used tactically at moments where a country is facing interernal dangers (be it a coup) or something along those lines, and they must go into Martial law to coordinate the defense of their country.

If you go forward and even look online with something like this, you're able to see that developed countries use this all the time and it's not only used by dictators - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law

Take a look and fix your argument.
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July 10, 2017, 05:31:08 PM
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Martial Law are initaied by dictators and tyrants who seek to control their citizens, it does bring about law and order but it takes away basic human rights from the people.
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July 09, 2017, 10:45:14 AM
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Pro Martial Law or Anti Martial Law? Which is better for the public safety?
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