http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html
i heard this exchange always adds only the good coins
paypro on theyr voting list is a good thing
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Is it a UK giftcard company that will accpet PRO as payment or USA based company?
Sorry - your going to have to wait until they announce.
I've said too much already
Darren
Is it a UK giftcard company that will accpet PRO as payment or USA based company?
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Hi Cryptoskills,
An EU pool is a good thing I think!
Let the PRO community know: what are your pool fees?
Thanks!
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Update
Ref : Max Coins
This update refers to accusations that our source code conflicts with our launch statement ; maximum number of coins = 8 billion.
Before I declare where we stand on this issue, i would like to thank..
I have decided to uphold both notsoshifty and my head developers statements.
Case for notsoshifty
PRO source code does not state 8 billion coins max : UPHELD
Case for Pro Development Team
The halving will not go under 1 coin per block, therefore 8 billion could be reached. ALSO UPHELD
It is therefore my decision that the source code remain as it is until such time it may require a fork
(hundreds of years from now if at all).
I will also be updating our launch statement to include text to this matter.
If the community would prefer - I will agree to a hard fork but there may be sacrifices doing this which is why I see no reason to do this at this time, if at all.
Basically - business as normal.
I wish to thank everyone for their time and input on this important subject and I hope this now concludes it.
Kind Regards
Darren Palmer
CEO
Ref : Max Coins
This update refers to accusations that our source code conflicts with our launch statement ; maximum number of coins = 8 billion.
Before I declare where we stand on this issue, i would like to thank..
- notsoshifty for bring the issue to my attention and explaining concerns in detail with me
- my head developer for taking time out from his holiday for a very long Skype meeting
- a number of contract developers for which I also sought independent advice
I have decided to uphold both notsoshifty and my head developers statements.
Case for notsoshifty
PRO source code does not state 8 billion coins max : UPHELD
Case for Pro Development Team
The halving will not go under 1 coin per block, therefore 8 billion could be reached. ALSO UPHELD
It is therefore my decision that the source code remain as it is until such time it may require a fork
(hundreds of years from now if at all).
I will also be updating our launch statement to include text to this matter.
If the community would prefer - I will agree to a hard fork but there may be sacrifices doing this which is why I see no reason to do this at this time, if at all.
Basically - business as normal.
I wish to thank everyone for their time and input on this important subject and I hope this now concludes it.
Kind Regards
Darren Palmer
CEO
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Yep mid 40s... and soon late 30's
Quote from the bittrex delist thread:
Im the CEO, not a programmer - but with your second explanation i understand what you are trying to get across better.
Our head dev came with outstanding references which we checked and his work has been faultless on every project we give him and his team.
When we set the volume I was assured there would be no problem and after you brought this issue up before... was assured again there is no issue.
If there is something you did not understand when speaking directly to our developer I would be more than happy to set up a 3 way meeting as suggested earlier.
If you decline this offer, I will still put your posts here to him and post my findings.
Kind Regards
Darren
To be honest, my only issue is the disagreement between the code and the communication coming from the PayPro team, rather than a lack of understanding of the code (which is quite clear). In the interests of transparency and full disclosure of information to investors / potential investors, I'd rather keep discussions on a public forum rather than a private meeting. But yes, please post the findings either here or a less heavily moderated thread that the main PayPro one.
Do you have any feedback from the head developer yet on this point about the total number of coins?
What's the problem?We can't read the source code.Are you really trying to get out on this technicality? Should we conclude you are incompetent, or outright scammers?
Every 64 years a bug in the block halving code will cause another 290 million coins to be mined. This bug has already been fixed in Bitcoin (despite it not affecting that coin for another 200+ years) and can clearly be fixed in PayPro very easily. Without a fix, the total number of coins is not 8 billion, it is infinite (with obvious caveats about 64 bit storage of numbers). With a fix, the total number of coins is not 8 billion, it is 290 million.
I ask again, what is your basis for stating that the total number of coins is 8 billion? If 8 billion total, what is the expected number of coins as a function of time (or block number), and why isn't that reflected in the code?
Every 64 years a bug in the block halving code will cause another 290 million coins to be mined. This bug has already been fixed in Bitcoin (despite it not affecting that coin for another 200+ years) and can clearly be fixed in PayPro very easily. Without a fix, the total number of coins is not 8 billion, it is infinite (with obvious caveats about 64 bit storage of numbers). With a fix, the total number of coins is not 8 billion, it is 290 million.
I ask again, what is your basis for stating that the total number of coins is 8 billion? If 8 billion total, what is the expected number of coins as a function of time (or block number), and why isn't that reflected in the code?
Im the CEO, not a programmer - but with your second explanation i understand what you are trying to get across better.
Our head dev came with outstanding references which we checked and his work has been faultless on every project we give him and his team.
When we set the volume I was assured there would be no problem and after you brought this issue up before... was assured again there is no issue.
If there is something you did not understand when speaking directly to our developer I would be more than happy to set up a 3 way meeting as suggested earlier.
If you decline this offer, I will still put your posts here to him and post my findings.
Kind Regards
Darren
To be honest, my only issue is the disagreement between the code and the communication coming from the PayPro team, rather than a lack of understanding of the code (which is quite clear). In the interests of transparency and full disclosure of information to investors / potential investors, I'd rather keep discussions on a public forum rather than a private meeting. But yes, please post the findings either here or a less heavily moderated thread that the main PayPro one.
Do you have any feedback from the head developer yet on this point about the total number of coins?
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You fanbois are riding shifty too hard, he raises valid points that must be addressed. Be more objective to people raising a valid concern.
I agree he raises valid points. Contradicting points, but valid on their own.
I also believe those questions are being addressed. Yet he persists to ask the question again and again in multiple threads, ad nauseum.
Also, we won't allow anyone to imply the team is either incompetent or scammers without a backlash. That is just unfairly insulting the hard-working devs and their management.
These alt-coin forums are full of FUD'ers and people yelling this or that is a scam. It is a shame to behave that way and simply not tolerated here.
Keep it respectful. If shifty was persistent but avoided the insults, then shifty would have received a different response.
You fanbois are riding shifty too hard, he raises valid points that must be addressed. Be more objective to people raising a valid concern.
so whats going down on our coin here? i quit mining a bit ago just pondering hitting it again?
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Official Statement
REF : Max Coins
As some of the community are aware there are accusations that our launch statement declaration of 8 billion coins max and our source code do not match.
I have spoken in brief to our head developer today and he re-assured me that this is not the case and that he would respond to the thread.
I have asked him NOT to respond until we have had a proper discussion in terms that I would understand and that I would make an accurate statement thereafter.
As the CEO I must look objectively at situations, consult and act accordingly.
Should the code NOT reflect our launch statement then there are several options available to rectify this.
But for now it is important that I am in possession of ALL the facts.
Kind Regards
Darren Palmer
CEO
REF : Max Coins
As some of the community are aware there are accusations that our launch statement declaration of 8 billion coins max and our source code do not match.
I have spoken in brief to our head developer today and he re-assured me that this is not the case and that he would respond to the thread.
I have asked him NOT to respond until we have had a proper discussion in terms that I would understand and that I would make an accurate statement thereafter.
As the CEO I must look objectively at situations, consult and act accordingly.
Should the code NOT reflect our launch statement then there are several options available to rectify this.
But for now it is important that I am in possession of ALL the facts.
Kind Regards
Darren Palmer
CEO
Premine seems to be an issue, Why is notsoshifty veiwing from a negitive angle... He says even him self that it could, how it is now end up with an infinate number of coins. So I can mearly assume his mind, instantantly latched on to the easiest caculaction avalable(not saying easy in terms of simple). You assume the patch that will be added will be the same as the patch used on Bitcoin! It appears correct the code at this stage is not consistant with the Dev team statements. Saying that, the amount of time to sort the issue, an the knowlege that the knowlege to do so, is out there. Kind of makes your concerns negligible at this stage of the coins overall developement! Maybe worth looking out to see if a fix has been applied closer to the time the issue is expected, if it is really that important to you. Granted you do know what you are talking about and you have been around for a while, but please don't mis-use your knowlege to slam others, maybe 
The autism is strong with this one.
Is it not relevant that the premine is claimed as being 1%, but actually appears to be 27%? I don't see why Darren can't explain how the figure of 1% is reached, i.e. how the figure of 8 billion total coins is reached, when the code shows a maximum of 290 million coins (or infinity, if the bug isn't fixed, which it clearly would be).
I simply can't take the bait and argue your faulty premise.
The present code does not prevent present day mining at the agreed rate.
The OP spells out the 8 Billions and that is the agreement.
Surely the code will be consistently updated to meet this agreement when necessary. Just as Darren will have developers update the code to meet his other business objectives when necessary.
Now stop being ridiculous, please.
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