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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

It should be noted that developers very sometimes don't have access to their token funds until they make a certain feature or until a certain period of time passes.

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Quote from: bamboylee on August 07, 2017, 06:19:33 AM

It is one of the risk you have to take as an investor. Most of the time, tokens are over priced at ico point, then it will drop when it hits the market. But if you invested on the right coin, one with actual use, then the price will recover over time.

Tokens are always the cheapest in the first sell of the ICO.If chosen wisely this may turn out to be a great decision if the coin is worth investing and ICO doesn't turn into a scam before the second week.

Quote from: swissgang on August 07, 2017, 06:16:01 AM

If the price of a coin fall below the ico price maybe it may not deserve ico price? I think buy wall that represents total amount of bounty reward should be placed in exchanges after ico.

That shows the coin is trash and people don't see a future in it,either technically or financially.Most of the alt-coins fit into this category.

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Quote from: bamboylee on August 07, 2017, 06:19:33 AM

It is one of the risk you have to take as an investor. Most of the time, tokens are over priced at ico point, then it will drop when it hits the market. But if you invested on the right coin, one with actual use, then the price will recover over time.

Yes i agree with you, we must invest on the right ICOs projects, before making investment on the ICOs we must learn more about the projects of the ICOs, we need data about the projects ICOs, are the ICOs will used on real business, entertainment or other funtions in the future? Are the ICOs has numbers of comunity that take the beneficial of the projects? The factors of fundamental must be learned carefully.

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It is one of the risk you have to take as an investor. Most of the time, tokens are over priced at ico point, then it will drop when it hits the market. But if you invested on the right coin, one with actual use, then the price will recover over time.

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If the price of a coin fall below the ico price maybe it may not deserve ico price? I think buy wall that represents total amount of bounty reward should be placed in exchanges after ico.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

They should just cut the bounties instead and pay the participants with bitcoins.This looks difficult in the beginning but after the ICO is over,coin will actually have a real value instead of bounty whores dumping it all over the trading exchanges.

Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Developer can't do much but develop the idea.Promotion and marketing also plays a key role in a successful launch of a coin.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

There is no way they can maintain the price because they will only be able to do their own development and cannot control what is happening in the market because its a free market. What matter most is how they pay to their investors Return on Investment on those who hold which does not in any way affects the price on the market. Just like stock of most companies on the stock market, majority of them have gone below the price at which it was offered for sale and no sign of recovery but the business is still waxing stronger and turning out dividend for their shareholders.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

I totally Agree with you, It is their responsiblility unless they only run their ICO and after collecting they leave their project.
Putting a buy wall isn't necessary thing as always because it will only create a dump of buy wall unless they will smartly use some buy walls in a good price range to make the price more grow it is on timing. If you know how stratis dev done to their coin is totally impressing imangine how much yhey started and now the price is at good price.

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It is important that not all projects have the support of the inside, the important thing here is that the psychology of investors is too scared when bounty hunter sell their own reward in the bounty campaign.
And this makes some people too scared and sell off. I also got involved in such psychology when I first invested in the ICO project. The price drop when the ICO just finished is a very normal thing.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

I do really get your point on which its really actually true, i can see that this thing would really be a problem for those developers out there when they do decide to make ICO. Bounty hunters would really dump their coins once they do recieve it which means investors would definitely not like to see that the price would be lesser on the price that they do bought the coin which would really somehow give them hindrance or doubts on investing on other ICO as well.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

did you find an a solution ?

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For me problem with ICOs is must making analisys fundamental of the ICOs projects, it needs long time before i make investing into ICOs because many scam ICOs out there, i must search the ICOs projects that has real business, has comunity of the ICOs projects, developer of ICOs that has knowledge about their projects and the ICOs can be applied to real life many people know about this business.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

I don't think you are wrong... no one is wrong in this scene. But you have to understand that price of tokens or alts is purely what the market deems it to be. If you think about it, true development should not focus on price control but on the project. Investors should realise that ICO = guaranteed profit. Price is NOT a concern of developers and should not be. You are talking about manipulation of market by creators, which means the alt won't be decentralised.

But the good point is from bounty hunters. ICOs shouldn't give bounties, or not too much. Less than 1% in my opinion.

Thanks, but i think putting a buy wall if the price of the coin is down cannot make the coin not decentralized. Lets say for example you have 100 btc then you pump the coin, whales manipulate the market, majority of the alts are manipulated some is pumped some is dumped, but still we call them decentralized,

What i am really pointing is if devs really care for the project he must not let the value of his token or coin fallbelow its real price, they must do something immediately (putting a buy wall is just one) to make his project rise again.

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Quote from: darthmaul on August 07, 2017, 04:22:25 AM

I dont think devs do anything in that one. Its not like dev wants to let the price go down. Nobody will actually but its the investors or those greedy person who want to jave benefit from high prices after ICO. They will sell it right away when the exchangers open the portal for that particulare ICO token sell. This is what causes the actual downward movement of the token value.

There are however no ways that devs can control this. On the hard side they can disable the sell button and let the token go into maintenance mode since in that specifoc period neither people can but it or sell it. But again disadvantage of no buying policy will restrict thr price of tokens moving upwards. So its bit complicated and may be people like it that way. They can have big profits.

Thats true, eve Dev can't guarantee price will double when exchanges open it.
but since there is cant handle in control of market, so its could be high risk investment.

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I dont think devs do anything in that one. Its not like dev wants to let the price go down. Nobody will actually but its the investors or those greedy person who want to jave benefit from high prices after ICO. They will sell it right away when the exchangers open the portal for that particulare ICO token sell. This is what causes the actual downward movement of the token value.

There are however no ways that devs can control this. On the hard side they can disable the sell button and let the token go into maintenance mode since in that specifoc period neither people can but it or sell it. But again disadvantage of no buying policy will restrict thr price of tokens moving upwards. So its bit complicated and may be people like it that way. They can have big profits.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

There are only small percent of bounty is given for bounty hunters , it's not normal to blame those bounty hunters , all of the developer need to work for this coin if they want it to be successful. I already see many ICO that the price increase after the ICO finish . If you see the coin below the ICO price It simply means that this coin does not go any where just leave the coin as fast as you can.

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Quote from: berrygood on August 07, 2017, 02:37:46 AM

In the first place, participating in a ico with big amounts of money is very risky and the ico concept is not so good, however I think falling below the ico price is normal as a lot of things can happen in a project that cause price to crash below ico price.

http://www.viberate.io ICO will be rebuying their tokens on exchanges and with that model price will go up without hype and they will catch dumps

So this is really good investment

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In the first place, participating in a ico with big amounts of money is very risky and the ico concept is not so good, however I think falling below the ico price is normal as a lot of things can happen in a project that cause price to crash below ico price.

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Quote from: acpr23 on August 07, 2017, 12:46:09 AM

I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price, because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.

I don't think you are wrong... no one is wrong in this scene. But you have to understand that price of tokens or alts is purely what the market deems it to be. If you think about it, true development should not focus on price control but on the project. Investors should realise that ICO = guaranteed profit. Price is NOT a concern of developers and should not be. You are talking about manipulation of market by creators, which means the alt won't be decentralised.

But the good point is from bounty hunters. ICOs shouldn't give bounties, or not too much. Less than 1% in my opinion.

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You are right if we are talking about work ethics but when it comes to business devs doesn't care if you profit or not.They only want to collect the money they need an work on their project ( or act like working on a project while going to hawaii with a ferrari).I don't think that they will bother themself with manipulating their token prices.

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