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newbie
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January 08, 2019, 06:32:03 PM
#72
My scam report against TitanBTC were updated.
I give him the last chance to not become a scammer and refund what is mine before I go next and he know im going to bomb every single forum and website with this story and make public their 2FA coins security issue and how every single new owner can be scammed.
Also their scam of course because they refusing to return what's mine.
TitanBTC is free to open any charges against the person who unload my coins, and that's their right, not sure what charges he wants to put against person who they scammed, but it will be fun.
All social networks and forums will read this 2FA coin issue and your scam believe me.
It will cost me more than what you stealing from me to start charges against you and spend the time to deal with this, but at least my loss will learn lesson to the current titanbtc users and those who want to become one.
It clearly shows your shady activity, your under table methods trying to clean your hands again by offering me money to say I am scammer and with that information also put your 2FA security issue out of curious.
I tough you were honest business man but after scamming me, after you selling people coins that actually have nothing inside them (which the 2fa coins are), not admitting your own mistake, also providing opportunity to old owners of coins to gain access without the required information from your site.
Not in last place offering me money to lie about the report saying I am scammer and lying about what I am saying.
After 30mins the wait time I provided will be over, and not refunding me means you scammed me.
Not looking to waste anymore time with this without seeing my refund.
newbie
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January 08, 2019, 09:47:26 AM
#69
teeGUMES, do not worry. few hours more silence from TitanBTC and I will show everyone their pms to me.
All of you will be more than surprised how this company owner offers me money for things to wash their hands with me but not admitting their own mistakes.
With the pms from TitanBTC you will realize they actually realized their mistake, but want to wash their hands with me offering me money.
If TitanBTC decide to scam me and not refund me what is mine, they will be public and the thread will be re-opened with the pm's I received from TitanBTC.
I will just add that TitanBTC instead of refunding me the 1btc he offered it to me to say I am scammer and confirm everything were a lie and there is no security issues from their side... Which was pathetic.
Proofs will be shown if TitanBTC decide to not refund me and scam me.
All of you will see how TitanBTC handle their problems under the table if something expose them.
newbie
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January 08, 2019, 08:55:04 AM
#67
Anduck oh you again ? Hello.
Seems like from all the people around you are the only one asking questions which had already answer.
Actually I do answer this few times, and there is almost 8 pages in 2 different threads to find your answer for the very same questions again and again.
For 6th time, I didn't travel specially to meet this guy, I travel to Peru for different reasons and not specially and only to meet this person.

To teeGUMES, this pictures were provided to me also with TXT file in flash drive.
Those pictures were taken before we meet ( I guess ).
Because in first place when he realized the coin is double funded and started his plan, he already made his scam plan in few parts so it can be successful.
I will repeat myself again, this is planed scam and planed before we meet.
Its just I were the guy who take the bite.
drbitcoinve is really convincing person and he know what he's doing.
I don't expect him to do wrong move because so far his acts were brilliant and just in time.
This scam is not a daily/hourly challenge, this is plan from at least 1-2 weeks before he find a victim.
This was the only opportunity for him to actually take the total amount from the double funded coin.
He know I wont be able to unload my coin because its double funded and had all the time needed to setup a perfect plan, prepare thread on this forum, contact titanbtc and also fabricate fake conversation using two telegrams.
Sadly I exchanged few pms with TitanBTC and seems like their ego cannot force the truth.
The hours I give to TitanBTC to refund me is ticking away, and this will go to reddit and many other forums and websites.
In matter of fact I have few surprised in the end for all of you which is PM's from TitanBTC which will become public.
All of you will be highly surprised how the owner of TitanBTC washing his hands.
newbie
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January 08, 2019, 12:32:04 AM
#65
@Pichotklasa you can see the lie in its history, so easy that it was publicly demonstrated the entry stamps of Peruvian migration. lol has been left without an argument to follow his fiction novel by South America Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

newbie
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January 07, 2019, 11:37:34 PM
#63
drbitcoinve  you are the god scammer here.
Yes I don't have the proof of the first purchase of the coin because that were you buying it in first place.
Yes I do have proof that I have all the sensitive information and I am the only person who have it not you.
We both know I paid you the cash week ago and I were stupid enough to think that I secured the coin but so far I didn't want to admit as some kind of newbie with this things I were only thinking I secured the coin, and the truth is I obtain access to it with the coin password and email just two days ago.
You were so sweet talking with your excuses about the physical coin which now you found ( what a miracle) that I just went off with only the sticker which was not enough.
You were smart enough after realizing I seeking my coin full infos after seeing that you trying to make yourself look as victim and trying to get another bitcoin worth of your coin.
You know from long time ago that coin were double funded and you just took advantage of it.
First time selling it to me, then playing a victim and get the second bitcoin from titan.
That were the only existing way of you taking the 2 bitcoins of that double funded coin right ? Smiley
You are not a trader, you are not a scammer, you are genius.
That's why you provided me the full information just in the same time when you were playing victim here on the forum and to titan team right?
Damn you are amazing.
Anyway, lets stick to your numbers.

1. our communication was face to face and we both know it.
2. proof of payment is in your pocket
3. requesting my passport can bring you huge law problems son, especially after what you done here. there is no one in the world using this forum who can legally request, obtain, hold or use any kind of information such as passport or id.
Yes you can request, but you don't have rights to "work", hold or do anything with that kind of documents.

I can provide what I need to provide to verify myself as true new owner of my coin which is all the sensitive information.
You were smart enough to want cash in hand, talk in person.
You plan this from the time you realize that coin is double funded and you know that I cannot redeem it and take advantage of this don't you?
Genius.... What a genius …. You are for Hollywood not for Peru.
Yeah thanks god truth always in, and in this case the truth will win sadly for you.
No matter how complicated your scam plan is, you are not the only smart person here.
I hope you are not really so naïve to think people will wait you here coming saying I am saying the true and you are scammer.
No one is naïve enough to wait you saying he is right and I am wrong.
You will always come up with excuses just the same way you didn't provide me the physical coin and the same way you provided me only the sticker then and didn't give me the coin password and email, letting me go just with the sticker pictures and text file with the code inside and outside the coin telling me this is 2FA coin and that's all I need. But you were sure I will come back because I cannot redeem the coin without the coin email and password and you give them to me in the right time for your scam plan so your story can be  "without doubt" and point me as the bad person here.
I don't know what you do for living, but you should be scientist
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 10:26:24 PM
#60
Nice story drbitcoinve, now why don't you tell the truth and show everyone how smart scammer you are, you won't use that forum anymore for sure because of your acts so at least teach everyone how you doing it.
After selling the coin creating thread there pretend to be victim.
Then creating another telegram which you control and chat with yourself so you can fabricate some kind of conversation between you and "fake" titanbtc team so you your story for being attacked by impersonator to look legit and reclaim access for the coin.
Ofc you will say that selling the coin to me is false, did someone even expect you to say you did ? Or did actually someone believe you will come here to say the truth how you take money from me and then took a bitcoin from titanbtc.
Give me a break son. You are the most smart scammer I ever seen and believe me you are genius I swear !
You even coming here after taking money from me and taking a bitcoin from titan team ?
Why? You can't scam more pal? Why you even come back ? To clean your hands from your scam ? You were exposed.
Ofc you provided proof of purchase 4 years ago, there is nothing else you can provide because the coin is now mine after you sold it to me, and everything you have is old dated and you cannot even go thru the redeem process required from titan.
You finally have the coin here with you but bullshit me that you lost it and you need to found it to send it and so. But what a good news ! Now you have the coin ? What a coincidence right?
I guess by "solving" issue you mean you took money from me and then a bitcoin from titan team by going thro hole from their 2FA security ? Yes that solve many of your financial problems for sure !
You are smart scammer but I catch what you did, we are not dumb also.
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 10:08:42 PM
#59
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FWIW this makes far more sense than Pichotklasa's story of his trip from Ukraine to Peru with bags of cash and his refusal to provide trade-related e-mails or even to tell us the date of the trade.

Since when 4000-6000$ is bags of cash and since when I should provide anyone here especially people who can't bring any help sensitive information where I travel with which company which will be seen on the ticket and when did I bought the coin.
Your questions and request itself as a no one in this case makes me laugh more and more.
Actually a 6k cash can't fill your pockets in 500eur notes, even in 100$ notes...
What a blind ignorants, thanks god someday you will be in my sit being scammed with NEW miracle to bitcoin world called 2FA coin which you actually not own any coins but the seller helping you to redeem something when he is available not when you want Cheesy
The whole idea of 2FA coin is joke, because you can't actually even redeem the coin when you want, because it is manually done, and the 2FA itself do not have any coin but request for unload a coin.
Actually you paying 1btc for a request to receive coin from the owner.
The piece of metal is nothing, the 2FA is nothing.
Hosting die = your coin die.
Team delay for any reason = your needs of your coin are delayed because you are not an owner of your coin.
Please use your brain before you post and don't call 4-6-8k bags of cash, also do not require personal information such as where and how someone go anywhere.
And who told you there is trade related emails ? You are no one in this case, and in the fact your way to look smart or helpful, will bring good laugh to someone with brain.
The way of ignorance about the 2FA security holes is also funny.
Seems like you either get paid from TitanBTC or you are some kind of fanatic trying to look cool in thru his eyes.
if you have nothing smart to say, silence will make you smarter than you actually are.

Also suchmoon you were blind enough to not read that I had the trip to peru for another reason not specially to meet him, but people read what they want right? Why would you read the whole story instead of reading what is good for you right? Give me a break son, you are just another troll from this forum reading what he wants and doing what he wants.
It is miracle that you didn't abuse your virtual powers to make me look bad instead of reading the story and realize the real world around you.
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 02:22:02 PM
#55
My thread against TitanBTC is still open ----- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5093771
TitanBTC I have nothing more to discuss with you.
I were scammed by you and your system and not anyone else, because only YOU can open the "doors" to a scammer to steal funded coin.

The evidences so far proving your security sucks and 2FA coins owners have nothing and owns nothing.
I will repeat myself just for you

1.Coin owner post were after the coin were already sold to me. It was made to be used as fake proof he had problem with the coin and after that being used as excuse.
2. I obtained the coin info after purchase.
3.The previous owner created second telegram to impersonate your team and create fake chat between him and fake titanbtc team so he could provide somekind of "proof" that he were attacked by impersonator. Really cleaver idea but not something people cannot understand, we are not so stupid.
So far the scammer acted really good after selling the coin, with really proper steps, first seeking for help, then again he is the victim who were attacked by fake titanbtc team, after that he could so easy claim that someone access his coin without his permission and cannot provide valid up to date proof of ownership.
4.All coin infos were obtained after purchase.
5. I have full right to as new owner.
6.Posted this thread after realized how dumb I am to not catch this before it happened with the idea you guys should be more smart than me and he cannot bypass your security but sadly he were even smarter than you either.

With these particular coins, or any other coins, Titan Mint should be nothing more than a seller of it and not a owner of something that not belong to their team anymore after being purchased.
If you claim people do not own their 2FA coins in the full meaning that's another question which puts you to the right place, where you actually and finally verify that 2FA owners are not the actual owners of their purchase.
If  you take this "burden" not so seriously that means you take your security not seriously which is obvious also with that case.
But providing security for bitcoin holders such as coin should be taken seriously...
newbie
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March 21, 2019, 10:37:26 AM
#49
I have a 2012/2013 Titan that I need help redeeming. I have emailed Titan through the website form but no response for several weeks. Please PM me!
Actually a lot of newbies cannot PM you because you restricted messages from newbies.
member
Activity: 86
Merit: 16
March 20, 2019, 07:56:42 PM
#48
No reply from support email for over 2 months, no reply from TitanBTC here (PM) for 3 weeks, and no reply to this thread. I'm pretty ready to call them scammers by now.
member
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February 28, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
#47
I have a 2012/2013 Titan that I need help redeeming. I have emailed Titan through the website form but no response for several weeks. Please PM me!
sr. member
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January 08, 2019, 06:15:55 PM
#46
Pichotklasa is welcome to release any PMs I had with him. 

I told him that I would pay him to come forward with the truth.  I did so in the hopes that he would reveal some aspects of real life identity so that I can evaluate bringing criminal charges against him.

If you, the forum members would like me to continue responding here, please PM me.  I'm happy to answer all questions at your request, but i'm afraid we're legitimizing a criminal's attempt at perpetrating a fraud by continuing to engage.






legendary
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January 08, 2019, 11:41:30 AM
#45
For 6th time, I didn't travel specially to meet this guy, I travel to Peru for different reasons and not specially and only to meet this person.

Ok your supposed trip had other activities, that's fine. But how DID you meet that person? Who initiated the contact and how? You said it was a week ago, so New Year's day?

Again, the more you obfuscate such basic details with walls of text the more you look like a scammer, if there's still any doubt on that.
legendary
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January 08, 2019, 09:31:52 AM
#44
Anduck oh you again ? Hello.
Seems like from all the people around you are the only one asking questions which had already answer.
Actually I do answer this few times, and there is almost 8 pages in 2 different threads to find your answer for the very same questions again and again.
For 6th time, I didn't travel specially to meet this guy, I travel to Peru for different reasons and not specially and only to meet this person.

To teeGUMES, this pictures were provided to me also with TXT file in flash drive.
Those pictures were taken before we meet ( I guess ).
Because in first place when he realized the coin is double funded and started his plan, he already made his scam plan in few parts so it can be successful.
I will repeat myself again, this is planed scam and planed before we meet.
Its just I were the guy who take the bite.
drbitcoinve is really convincing person and he know what he's doing.
I don't expect him to do wrong move because so far his acts were brilliant and just in time.
This scam is not a daily/hourly challenge, this is plan from at least 1-2 weeks before he find a victim.
This was the only opportunity for him to actually take the total amount from the double funded coin.
He know I wont be able to unload my coin because its double funded and had all the time needed to setup a perfect plan, prepare thread on this forum, contact titanbtc and also fabricate fake conversation using two telegrams.
Sadly I exchanged few pms with TitanBTC and seems like their ego cannot force the truth.
The hours I give to TitanBTC to refund me is ticking away, and this will go to reddit and many other forums and websites.
In matter of fact I have few surprised in the end for all of you which is PM's from TitanBTC which will become public.
All of you will be highly surprised how the owner of TitanBTC washing his hands.

Just hush, you locked your thread after dodging all of the questions because " hOw CaN fOrUm MeMbERs dO AnYTHiNg To HeLp yOu"

Now I seen drbitcoinve come back and I want to see if these questions can be answered by him. Sick of your walls of text that don't explain anything. Even if you were scammed its getting harder and harder to even give a shit about you.
legendary
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quack
January 08, 2019, 08:37:11 AM
#43
1. our communication was face to face and we both know it.

All the communication happened face to face? You just flew to Peru and randomly approached some dude there and wanted to buy his Titan 1 BTC 2fa coin?
legendary
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January 08, 2019, 01:06:00 AM
#42
drbitcoinve I have one last question.
this picture, was it suggested to you to be done by Pichotklasa or was it for a TitanBTC fake representative over telegram.



if you could provide some sort of chat log for proof even better.
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 11:48:00 PM
#41
A discussion requires two parties. I have provided all the needed info to clarify what happened here. I thank Tim Fillmore for his outstanding handling of this intent of scam. I confirm the procedures to validate the ownership of the coin are just perfect and worked perfectly in this ocassion.

I consider this issue FINISHED and SOLVED.

DrBitcoinVE
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 11:16:23 PM
#40
I think it is obvious that this impostor cant provide proof of ownership nor proof of purchase because there was never a sell transaction involved.

I think it is stupid to claim that anyone bought a physical Bitcoin without having the coin physically with him. That is an obvious fact that shows the fraudster invented all this story. It would be very interesting if the impostor can provide:

1. Proof of communications with myself about his intention to buy the coin
2. Proof of payment
3. Stamps in his passport to proof he traveled as he says.

He cant provide anything because that story is totally FALSE. The only scammer here is Pichotklasa. I have proof of everything I posted. I have the emails received yesterday from him and from TITANBTC, I have videos in which he asked me to delete all the emails received from Titan BTC with the proper proof of purchase directly from the Titan Website, back in 2015. I also have a video in which he instructed me to destroy the hologram of the coin. Even more important, I have the coin with me, I think this is his weakest point... how can he justifies that he bought a physical bitcoin but he has not the coin with him... it sounds simply stupid.

The world is full of oportunistic people trying to scam honest people. Thanks God common sense and truth always win.

I hope this is enough to clarify any misunderstanding to the rest of the honest members of this forum.

DrBitcoinVE
legendary
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January 07, 2019, 10:36:23 PM
#39
Since when 4000-6000$ is bags of cash and since when I should provide anyone here especially people who can't bring any help sensitive information where I travel with which company which will be seen on the ticket and when did I bought the coin.

Pardon my hyperbole. Still, it's not a huge task to provide the date of the trade and messages that initiated the trade. It's pretty much a standard procedure for reporting a scam. I don't particularly care about your sensitive information - you can blank that out in any supporting proof you post here. Your continuing refusal to answer these and other very basic questions paints you as scammer.
legendary
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January 07, 2019, 09:53:46 PM
#38
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FWIW this makes far more sense than Pichotklasa's story of his trip from Ukraine to Peru with bags of cash and his refusal to provide trade-related e-mails or even to tell us the date of the trade.


I have to agree with suchmoon on this one 😎

Thanks!
legendary
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https://bpip.org
January 07, 2019, 09:41:00 PM
#37
~

FWIW this makes far more sense than Pichotklasa's story of his trip from Ukraine to Peru with bags of cash and his refusal to provide trade-related e-mails or even to tell us the date of the trade.
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 09:31:34 PM
#36
I want to thank Tim Fillmore for being so helpful in the solution of this issue.

The member Pichotklasa is a fraudster. He contacted me through telegram by impersonating Titan BTC Security Staff. He then manipulated the headers of the Security Team email and sent several emails to my personal address to try to impersonate the Security Staff. At first, I agreed to follow his instructions but there were several things that seemed weird to me, like contact through Telegram a few minutes after my post here, and diferent headers in the emails I received from him and from Titan Bitcoin. After I provided him with some vital information about the coin, I received a couple of emails from [email protected] and directly from Tim Fillmore, warning me that there was no one from TITAN contacting me through Telegram.

This member, Pichotklasa, is an impostor. He is now claiming that I sold the coin to him which is completely false. He does not have any proof of such a transaction. I have never sold any of my coins to anybody. His only proof is that he made me change the email and password of my coin in the TitanBTC site. That is all. I repeat I HAVE NEVER SOLD a coin to him.

Since TitanBTC has dealt with these kind of treats in the past, Mr. Fillmore explained that this person was trying to scam me and then, he asked me to proof that I was the REAL OWNER of the coin. I provided proof of purchase from dec 2015 and provided two videos that the impostor asked me to proceed with the coin redemption I was asking for. In those videos, the impostor asked me to delete all the emails I received from Titan and he also asked me to destroy the security hologram of the coin. I have those videos and have given them to Titan Security Staff.

With this post, I want to let it very clear that:

1. I did not sell the coin in question. I have been the Owner since the date of purchase and I have the coin physically here with me.
2. This member, Pichotklasa, attempted to steal the coin's value by impersonating Titan and now he could be trying to redeem the coin with this scam story of the sold coin, which is completely false.
3. We both, TitanBTC and myself resolved the issue to my complete satisfaction, once I provided proof of ownership, proof of purchase and proof of identity.

DrBitcoinVE
sr. member
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January 07, 2019, 02:12:13 PM
#35
@everyone else...

We're not infallible, but the evidence in this instance points pretty overwhelmingly to the rightful owner of the coin.  Much of this evidence involves sensitive info which I am not authorized to share here, but they include verifiable transcripts and un-modified screenshots of the Social engineering activity as well as photos and videos of the coin, hologram, and redemption code. 

That evidence, combined with the timing of the communications and our IP logs indicate that Pichotklasa
1. Saw the coin owner's post here in the forum
2. Obtained the coin owner's personal info
3. Impersonated Titan employees to gain the coin owner's trust
4. Used that trust to obtain the coin's redemption info
5. Changed the coin's registration email using that information
6. Posted this thread Claiming to be the rightful owner

Ultimately, with these particular coins, Titan Mint is the arbiter of ownership.  Our system and the 2FA product itself was designed to automate that arbitration as much as possible.  It's an expensive burden but one we take very seriously. 

If anyone has issues with our determination of ownership, they are welcome to contact us at [email protected] and we will respond as soon as possible.  We'll work with all parties involved to find the best solution.
sr. member
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January 07, 2019, 02:11:49 PM
#34
@Pichotklasa, If you've truly been wronged and we have somehow made a mistake, please file a report with your local police department including all evidence of your purchase and your travel to and from Peru, as well as any communication you had with the seller prior to and after making the purchase. 

I have multiple employees in Russia, and one in Ukraine, and I will have them communicate with your local authorities to verify the police report is complete and the evidence that was provided is authenticated.

Once that police report is verified, we will consider the option that we redeemed the coin's value to the wrong party and transfer the BTC value of that coin to you once we've determined that we made an error.

If you're in agreement with this process, then please confirm here that you will be working with us (Titan Mint) directly to resolve this issue.  No further discussion will be entertained with you in this forum until you've agreed to involve law enforcement.  If you've honestly been defrauded, then reporting that theft to the police.  Putting them in touch with us is the next step.
legendary
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January 07, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
#33
1) There is no physical coin transferred to me OBVIOUSLY after saying this for 5th time.
2) This coin ownership is transferred by only one possible way and no other ways.
Giving me the coin ID, giving me the coin 2FA, changing the COIN EMAIL to mine, Changing the coin password to MINE.
After ME having everything secured ( most important my coin password and my coin email) the previous owner is no longer owner of it because he cannot provide up to date coin email or coin password.
So obviously the person who cannot provide coin email and coin password is not the up to date owner.
And the one who have the full coin infos including coin email and coin password is the current up to date owner.

When did that transfer occur? (date)
legendary
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January 06, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
#32
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The coin infos needed for it to be unloaded is mine.

Can you please post what those “infos” are specifically?

I don’t care about the actual (private) information - I am curious on what type of data you’re referring to specifically.

Did you receive anything from the actual coin during your in person transaction ?

Thanks!
legendary
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quack
January 06, 2019, 08:06:50 PM
#31
Andrus who the fuck are you and why the fuck you requesting information from  me ? Are you from TitanBTC ?
No I will not give you any screenshot obviously.
If TitanBTC request anything from me, it will be gladly instantly provided.

When you make a scam accusation, you should be able to show some evidence... You're claiming that TitanBTC scammed you and now you can't even prove that the coin 2FA ownership was transferred to you? If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate showing up some evidence to back my claims!
legendary
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January 06, 2019, 08:06:00 PM
#30
Sent to mod, this should not be taking up space in collectibles.  This belongs in scam accusations.  Please move, thank you.
legendary
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quack
January 06, 2019, 07:59:00 PM
#29
1) There is no physical coin transferred to me OBVIOUSLY after saying this for 5th time.
2) This coin ownership is transferred by only one possible way and no other ways.
Giving me the coin ID, giving me the coin 2FA, changing the COIN EMAIL to mine, Changing the coin password to MINE.
After ME having everything secured ( most important my coin password and my coin email) the previous owner is no longer owner of it because he cannot provide up to date coin email or coin password.
So obviously the person who cannot provide coin email and coin password is not the up to date owner.
And the one who have the full coin infos including coin email and coin password is the current up to date owner.

Did you have TitanBTC confirm to you that the transfer is complete?
Ofc I have the confirmation email. What is that question. Will I claim that the coin email and password were transferred to me without having email as confirmation for that?

Can you post a screenshot of that confirmation email? Blank all the private info. Also check extremely well the sender address of that email. Preferably show us the actual e-mail source (with blanked private info).

This would help you, because right now there's no evidence. TitanBTC claims that they did not transfer the coin to you. Prove us that they did..?
legendary
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January 06, 2019, 07:56:25 PM
#28
1) There is no physical coin transferred to me OBVIOUSLY after saying this for 5th time.
2) This coin ownership is transferred by only one possible way and no other ways.
Giving me the coin ID, giving me the coin 2FA, changing the COIN EMAIL to mine, Changing the coin password to MINE.
After ME having everything secured ( most important my coin password and my coin email) the previous owner is no longer owner of it because he cannot provide up to date coin email or coin password.
So obviously the person who cannot provide coin email and coin password is not the up to date owner.
And the one who have the full coin infos including coin email and coin password is the current up to date owner.

Did you have TitanBTC confirm to you that the transfer is complete?
Ofc I have the confirmation email. What is that question. Will I claim that the coin email and password were transferred to me without having email as confirmation for that?

Sounds like you learned a lesson - don't buy 2fa coins from others. Regardless if you got scammed or the scammer. Just deal with the loss and move on. Tongue
legendary
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quack
January 06, 2019, 07:51:34 PM
#27
1) There is no physical coin transferred to me OBVIOUSLY after saying this for 5th time.
2) This coin ownership is transferred by only one possible way and no other ways.
Giving me the coin ID, giving me the coin 2FA, changing the COIN EMAIL to mine, Changing the coin password to MINE.
After ME having everything secured ( most important my coin password and my coin email) the previous owner is no longer owner of it because he cannot provide up to date coin email or coin password.
So obviously the person who cannot provide coin email and coin password is not the up to date owner.
And the one who have the full coin infos including coin email and coin password is the current up to date owner.

Did you have TitanBTC confirm to you that the transfer is complete?
legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack
January 06, 2019, 07:44:07 PM
#26
Also the coin still appear as fully funded -> http://prntscr.com/m3v9bl

Ultimately I was able to communicate with the actual owner and verify both their identity and that they currently owned the coin in question, and the value was redeemed as intended.

This doesn't add up.



1) There was no physical coin transferred to you, right?
2) How was the coin ownership transferred to you?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1242
January 06, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
#25
I still haven’t seen the coin.....
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 06, 2019, 07:20:31 PM
#24
You flew internationally to another continent with cash in hand.  Gave thousands of dollars to a stranger in cash and left without the coin.....that's the story?  And did you know there was 2btc on the coin when you bought it?
Well didn't know people should visit other country with empty pockets. In fact I had much more than the coin value, actually x3 or x4 of the value for different things. I mean, that's not millions, im not sure how you are surprised people visit other country with some money with them just in case or for some gifts or anything. And we all are strangers when we meet new person to deal with... The claim itself is an answer. I left with the valuable part of the coin and not the metal one with promises I will have also the "precious" metal coming with the valuable part. And no, I didn't know there was 2btc on the coin. If I know that I would want to sweep the coin right after I got the infos for it.
That would be a free 1btc for me if I know it. And I don't want 2 bitcoins, all I want is what I bought. A bitcoin.
How can failure of TitanBTC security can be my problem ?
Because based on the situation that's what we all see (correct me if I am wrong).
The previous original owner of the coin were able to sweep the coin using old dated infos.
The previous original owner cannot redeem the code by the requested secured and requested way from TitanBTC which is to provide up to date valid proof of ownership because the previous owner don't have the coin password and email.
I don't want anything else than what's mine.
Nothing more nothing less.
If they have security problems or someone bypass their security somehow, they should double think how they store the funds and how they serve their customers. And not in last place to follow their own security ways to redeem their own coins.
By providing all  valid UP-TO-DATE information including coin email and coin password.

In a person to person trade you do not hand over cash and walk away without first moving the bitcoin to an address that you yourself control the private key for. I am very sorry if you are indeed sincere here but you did this to yourself. Consider using a bitcoin exchange or localbitcoins if you want to buy bitcoin with cash.
Judging by TitanBTC's response I don't think we are getting the full story. You didn't even check the public address to see if the coin was funded(and in this case overfunded)
It appears there is a "Verify Value" and code on the hologram of TitanBTC coins that you didn't take the time to load up the website and use.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1242
January 06, 2019, 07:16:22 PM
#23
A whole lot of finger pointing.... USE ESCROW and this wouldn’t even be an issue.  

.....and you handed someone cash with only promises.  You almost deserve it, if that’s the case.

p.s.  I have a bridge for sale.... only 5BTC and it can be yours.  Please pay first to an address I PM you and I promise the bridge will be yours.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 747
Merit: 253
January 06, 2019, 07:15:33 PM
#22
This is getting cringy  Roll Eyes

Greets Hank
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
January 06, 2019, 06:59:27 PM
#21
You flew internationally to another continent with cash in hand.  Gave thousands of dollars to a stranger in cash and left without the coin.....that's the story?  And did you know there was 2btc on the coin when you bought it?
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 06, 2019, 06:30:52 PM
#20
TitanBTC or anybody else around reading, can you post a picture of a Titan coin with a semi-peeled hologram?

There are tamper proof holograms on almost every single physical bitcoin collectible out there, if you are meeting with someone and see the usual "honeycomb" pattern then you should not be buying the coin as the private key has been compromised.

Pinky swears and promises don't count for shit in the bitcoin world.

Also TitanBTC can you confirm that with the information displayed on your 2fa coins that the buyer would have been able to confirm that this coin was indeed funded with an additional bitcoin through a block explorer. (I am unfamiliar with your 2fa coins)
sr. member
Activity: 366
Merit: 258
January 06, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
#19


P.S: to teeGUMES, cash in hand don't have TX I am sorry. This scammer (OP) is currently based in Peru



We understand that you're frustrated that your theft didn't pan out as you hoped, but come on now...

You physically paid cash, in hand, to someone in a different country?  At this point, I think we know you're in Russia...so...How did that occur?  How did the cash travel from Russia to Peru?

legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 06, 2019, 05:52:57 PM
#18
I laugh hard at the way you are trying to wash your hands how smart scammer managed to scam you of the value of my coin because I am the new and original owner with the full infos for it.
It is interesting how he bypass your "security" with OLD and out dated infos.
We all know who is responsible if someone used my coin without having current the coin password and email.
If you let all original owners who re-sell their coins to scam the amounts from the coins after selling them, believe me, not only your business is dead but your name in the bitcoin community.
No one than you can help the old owner to scam the value inside my coin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5093771
You resolved issue ? Cheesy There was never issue, the OP is scammer who sold me the coin and then claimed this issue so he can steal the value inside the coin he sold me you stupid idiot.
Your security problems will cost you a bitcoin not me if you let him steal the coin value without him having the password and email of the coin in the very right time he sweep it. because I am the only one who have it and not the OP scammer.

Theres such a thing as a bitcoin blockchain that provides proof of transactions when you purchase something from somebody. Let's see your txid with a signed message from the address you paid from. Aswell, this is a perfect and prime example of why ESCROW should be used.

Edit to add: TitanBTC has many many loaded coins worth 10s of if not 100s of thousands of dollars in the hands of collectors. Their due diligence on something like this is a little more complex than you may think, theres a lot at stake if they make a mistake.
I agree with you, but consider we are already 2019 and scammers becoming more and more smart TitanBTC team should be also smart.
OP is the most smart scammer I ever meet in my entire life.
From what I gather as information from TitanBTC posts so far I realized that after the guy sold me the coin, he instantly contacted them about problem to sweep the coin.
He open thread here on this forum and also claims that some scam artists contacted the OP via telegram pretending to be him.
Obviously he's pulling himself as 3rd way impersonating scam victim meanwhile trying to scam me (which was done consider titanbtc confirmed he "fixed" his issue) and scam the coin inside.
In few words: he taking the money from me for the coin, contact titan about coin issue and providing old out dated infos trying to sweep the coin so he can scam my cash and  the coin value. TitanBTC letting him sweep the coin with old  dated infos even with the proper knowledge coin owners can be changed but doing mistake to help person who don't know the current coin password and email but only old infos as first and original  owner of the coin.
The case is OP scammed TitanBTC which he sold me, he scammed TitanBTC not myself because I have full and valid up to date infos to verify I am the owner of the coin since it was sold to me and based on their redeem rules no one than me should be able to use the coin.
Op scammed titanbtc which is not my problem.
My coin value must be refunded and titanbtc should follow their own security rules. (In order to use 2fa coin up to date password and email should be provided).
Otherwise every single re-seller of their 2FA coins can scam the buyer and after that sweep the coin getting help from their team with the old original infos.
I am looking forward to receive my 1btc that I bought and I am the current original owner of.
Valid proof of ownership can be requested from me anytime in private.
Also I contacted them from the same email the coin is registered to.

P.S: to teeGUMES, cash in hand don't have TX I am sorry. This scammer (OP) is currently based in Peru


Cash in hand but you never received the physical coin itself? Also particular coin has been stated to have had a second bitcoin loaded onto it and in your previous post you state you want your one bitcoin. Things just do not add up here. You would have been able to check the public address and see it had two bitcoin on it which OP and TitanBTC both have confirmed in one way or another. Did you think this was a 50% off deal?
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 06, 2019, 05:21:52 PM
#17
I laugh hard at the way you are trying to wash your hands how smart scammer managed to scam you of the value of my coin because I am the new and original owner with the full infos for it.
It is interesting how he bypass your "security" with OLD and out dated infos.
We all know who is responsible if someone used my coin without having current the coin password and email.
If you let all original owners who re-sell their coins to scam the amounts from the coins after selling them, believe me, not only your business is dead but your name in the bitcoin community.
No one than you can help the old owner to scam the value inside my coin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5093771
You resolved issue ? Cheesy There was never issue, the OP is scammer who sold me the coin and then claimed this issue so he can steal the value inside the coin he sold me you stupid idiot.
Your security problems will cost you a bitcoin not me if you let him steal the coin value without him having the password and email of the coin in the very right time he sweep it. because I am the only one who have it and not the OP scammer.

Theres such a thing as a bitcoin blockchain that provides proof of transactions when you purchase something from somebody. Let's see your txid with a signed message from the address you paid from. Aswell, this is a perfect and prime example of why ESCROW should be used.

Edit to add: TitanBTC has many many loaded coins worth 10s of if not 100s of thousands of dollars in the hands of collectors. Their due diligence on something like this is a little more complex than you may think, theres a lot at stake if they make a mistake.
sr. member
Activity: 366
Merit: 258
January 06, 2019, 05:11:46 PM
#16
The coin in question had a redemption hold on it because of the double funding.  OP did indeed email us and we missed it until he emailed again.  We've communicated in the past with OP via email, but in this case he was concerned and posted here which is fine.  We all need to be vigilant when ti comes to Bitcoin related companies doing unexpected stuff.

I think Gerardo (drbitcoinve) may have lost access to his forum account in the course of the phishing exploits that were perpetrated, but if he's still around he can confirm that his coin was redeemed successfully and that we've resolved his issue.





legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014
Welt Am Draht
January 06, 2019, 04:51:07 PM
#15
You seem like an extremely, er, scam-focused member. You literally don't post about anything else.

So it seems the old chestnut about the louder someone is about something the more likely they embody it still stands firm.

I guess no one else will ever know what the story is here, not that it got any clearer at any point. Still glad I don't have a coin that requires a third party.
sr. member
Activity: 366
Merit: 258
January 06, 2019, 04:44:44 PM
#14
Hi All,

There's a scam accusation thread that I responded to, but just wanted to follow up here as well.

The coin in question has been redeemed for the rightful owner.  Pichotklasa is attempting a fishing scam and trying to claim ownership of a coin that he does not have possession of.

As a refresher, Titan Bitcoins were originally offered in 2 flavors:

1. Private key - in which the BTC private key was included underneath the hologram

2. 2-Factor-Authenticated - in which user's registered ownership on Titan's website and an additional ownership is required before redemption of the coin's BTC value

The coin in question was a 2FA coin.  We discontinued offering 2FA coins after a year or two, partly because it created an incentive for scammers like Pichotklasa to try to impersonate actual coin owners.

In this case, Pichotklasa went so far as to setup a fake telegram account to chat with the coin owner and attempt to mislead the coin owner, as well as emailing the owner directly and impersonating myself and fabricating additional Titan Mint employees.

Ultimately I was able to communicate with the actual owner and verify both their identity and that they currently owned the coin in question, and the value was redeemed as intended. 

We have humans in the loop for redeeming these 2FA coins and we are careful to ensure that BTC is never transferred to malicious bad actors like Pichotklasa.  Email is best for resolving any security questions.  [email protected].
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
January 06, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
#13
OP says his coin shows 2BTC loaded. If the accuser can show the same pub address with 2BTC loaded we can tell if it is the same coin or not.

Yeah at some point someone must have added a coin its definately not "wrong balance in the blockchain" Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 06, 2019, 01:56:41 PM
#12
OP says his coin shows 2BTC loaded. If the accuser can show the same pub address with 2BTC loaded we can tell if it is the same coin or not.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
January 06, 2019, 01:51:02 PM
#11
Side topic: dont understand the point of 2fa physical coins.  Not only do you have to lay trust in the manufacturer and his/her handling of the keys but with the 2fa version you have to rely on them not disappearing/dying to ever sweep the coin.  Not a risk I would personally take with the 2fa version.  That being said sounds like no one has access to the required email that's needed here.  So the OP was not the original owner and he got scammed, then sold it to picotklasa and scammed that user therefore just passing on the scam?  Honestly I'm confused at what is going on
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014
Welt Am Draht
January 06, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
#10
If the original owner/buyer is OP (drbitcoinve), then why wouldn't he have the email and password?

Who currently has the physical coin?

Can you or OP post a pic with said coin and name/date?


I can't say this is getting any clearer. All I can tell is that Titan isn't responding to anyone. I presume you transfer across the  2FA control by responding from the original emali address registered. Sounds messy and unsafe even with escrows and stuff.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3238
The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
January 05, 2019, 08:59:28 PM
#9
This is lie and I already have send email to titanbtc
You sold me that coin and you don't even have access to the coin email and password.
I hope TitanBTC wasn't stupid enough to fail in this failed scam attempt consider you don't have access to the coin email and password.
It is funny how scam artists like you coming here after selling the coin to claim you can't redeem it.
Nice try.

Provide proof with pictures (username and current date required) so we can appropriately red tag this. OP could possibly be referring to another coin if he had bought more than one. Sale looks to have been private and not done publicly on this board.
I have everything except the physical coin.
He delayed to  send it and now I see why.. To try to take the coins from  it before I sweep it..
Thanks god he don't have the coin  password and email and I hope he didn't manage  to scam titanbtc.
I can provide all proofs except the physical coin because  he delayed to send  it  to me.

I hope you used escrow for this.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014
Welt Am Draht
January 05, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
#8
This is lie and I already have send email to titanbtc
You sold me that coin and you don't even have access to the coin email and password.
I hope TitanBTC wasn't stupid enough to fail in this failed scam attempt consider you don't have access to the coin email and password.
It is funny how scam artists like you coming here after selling the coin to claim you can't redeem it.
Nice try.

What's the story behind this then? Was it sold to you with him guaranteeing to transfer the 2FA across? Do you think he's trying to redeem it? I don't see how that's possible without the coin in his hand.

You seem like an extremely, er, scam-focused member. You literally don't post about anything else.
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 05, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
#7
This is lie and I already have send email to titanbtc
You sold me that coin and you don't even have access to the coin email and password.
I hope TitanBTC wasn't stupid enough to fail in this failed scam attempt consider you don't have access to the coin email and password.
It is funny how scam artists like you coming here after selling the coin to claim you can't redeem it.
Nice try.

Provide proof with pictures (username and current date required) so we can appropriately red tag this. OP could possibly be referring to another coin if he had bought more than one. Sale looks to have been private and not done publicly on this board.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
January 05, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
#6
The plot thickens.....  Roll Eyes
Hox
sr. member
Activity: 762
Merit: 299
January 05, 2019, 04:23:29 PM
#5
Good luck. I tried to figure out if I could redeem a 2fa coin that was registered to someone else but never received any reply from them, not even when I private messaged them here a day after they were active.

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 05, 2019, 01:39:47 PM
#4
Thank you! Yes you are right. Counterparty risk is very important when dealing with physical bitcoins. I have made several coins by myself in my own paper wallet addresses with zero issues, and had no problem when I redeemed the PRIVATE KEY versions of the Titan Bitcoin I had. The problem is with the 2FA version which relies on them to complete the redemption.

I will follow your advice about making noise in twitter. I have about 10K subscribers in my youtube channel so I will try that too.

Thanks in advance,

Gerardo
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014
Welt Am Draht
January 05, 2019, 01:35:40 PM
#3
Hmm.

This is the type of thing that would give me nightmares and why I would never deal with a coin that required some form of third party good faith.

Perhaps making noise on Twitter and r/Bitcoin might get more possibility of a response from Titian than here, though you'll come across more actual experiences in this section.  

Also maybe ask here - https://www.cryptodechange.com as the Titan guy says he was working with them so perhaps they'll have the right contact details.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3238
The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
January 05, 2019, 01:33:01 PM
#2
Sorry to hear that bro. Did you try PM thru his profile here? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/titanbtc-112605

I see you also sent an email...did you fill out the form here>> https://www.titanbtc.com/contact/
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 05, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
#1
Hello members

I have been a collector of Physical Bitcoins since 2014. I have already redeemed several Titan BTC coins. However I am having issues with a SILVER TITAN BTC 2013. Saddly, I have sent several emails to [email protected] but have not received any reply.

When I provide all the requireds fields in the redemption page, it shows an error message saying the data is invalid. I already peeled the security hologram and have the 2FA key, the coin id and I am the original buyer/owner of the coin so it is registered and associated to my email and name.

The coin in reference has a wrong balance in the blockchain, since it is a 1 BTC coin and the correspondent addresss shows a balance of 2BTC.

I think there are other titan btc owners that have faced similar problems/issues with their coins. Since The regular contact channels are not working, Im trying this forum to try to contact the Titan BTC CEO or someone who is able to help me to fix this issue.

I would appreciate all the info and insight you provide.

Sincerely,

Gerardo Mogollon
DrBitcoinVE
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