I really think this issues is blown out of proportions.
I've seen this message at least 4-5 times a day and a quick reconnect solves everything.
I have to admit I was scared the first time I saw it but , If it prevents spammers even by 1% keep it in place.
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you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum
this is misleading and technically wrong
catching a tor ban also prevents an user from viewing the content of his message box (i have one message in outbox and i can't see it when the forum sets my status to banned). viewing messages is a read-only action, it shouldn't be affected at all, yet it is
There must be another way to reduce spammers...
Come on theymos, do it!
and theymos won't respond because he's very unresponsive as of late
and theymos won't respond because he's very unresponsive as of late
+1 even if this doesn't affect me
Why don't you make it this way:
Every user account that is not banned will be "white-listed", and white-listing overrules banning. That is, if a non-banned user logs in from a banned IP address, then the user is allowed to make posts. (Of course, banned IP addresses aren't allowed to register new accounts, because this would allow to circumvent the banning.)
]Every user account that is not banned will be "white-listed", and white-listing overrules banning. That is, if a non-banned user logs in from a banned IP address, then the user is allowed to make posts. (Of course, banned IP addresses aren't allowed to register new accounts, because this would allow to circumvent the banning.)
yes, please do that
i get regularly banned by just using Opera Mini (Turbo)
Problem is that mods can't see ip's (thankfully) so I have no way of knowing if someone is using their real ip or a proxy when I ban them. If I knew they were using tor I wouldn't bother. So you can either suck it up, or we can violate everyone's privacy by letting ips be seen by many more people. The former is the more desirable option, though more Inconvenient for you.
If you have to make a decision between privacy and convenience, then, of course, privacy is more desirable. I agree with that.
However, I think you don't have to make this decision; we can have both.
Why don't you make it this way:
Every user account that is not banned will be "white-listed", and white-listing overrules banning. That is, if a non-banned user logs in from a banned IP address, then the user is allowed to make posts. (Of course, banned IP addresses aren't allowed to register new accounts, because this would allow to circumvent the banning.)
If technically possible, please do this. Using TOR should be encouraged.
Note to myself. And advice for everyone else.
Always copy what you wrote before hitting that post button.
Always copy what you wrote before hitting that post button.
Problem is that mods can't see ip's (thankfully) so I have no way of knowing if someone is using their real ip or a proxy when I ban them. If I knew they were using tor I wouldn't bother. So you can either suck it up, or we can violate everyone's privacy by letting ips be seen by many more people. The former is the more desirable option, though more Inconvenient for you.
If you have to make a decision between privacy and convenience, then, of course, privacy is more desirable. I agree with that.
However, I think you don't have to make this decision; we can have both.
Why don't you make it this way:
Every user account that is not banned will be "white-listed", and white-listing overrules banning. That is, if a non-banned user logs in from a banned IP address, then the user is allowed to make posts. (Of course, banned IP addresses aren't allowed to register new accounts, because this would allow to circumvent the banning.)
If technically possible, please do this. Using TOR should be encouraged.
+1, please implement this or something similar.
Problem is that mods can't see ip's (thankfully) so I have no way of knowing if someone is using their real ip or a proxy when I ban them. If I knew they were using tor I wouldn't bother. So you can either suck it up, or we can violate everyone's privacy by letting ips be seen by many more people. The former is the more desirable option, though more Inconvenient for you.
If you have to make a decision between privacy and convenience, then, of course, privacy is more desirable. I agree with that.
However, I think you don't have to make this decision; we can have both.
Why don't you make it this way:
Every user account that is not banned will be "white-listed", and white-listing overrules banning. That is, if a non-banned user logs in from a banned IP address, then the user is allowed to make posts. (Of course, banned IP addresses aren't allowed to register new accounts, because this would allow to circumvent the banning.)
I don't understand why the very same user is banned or not banned, depending on what IP address they use.
Does my personal "spam likeliness" depend on the IP address that I'm using? Certainly not. I'm still the very same person, no matter from where I log in.
Why don't you give user-based bans, instead of IP-based bans?
Does my personal "spam likeliness" depend on the IP address that I'm using? Certainly not. I'm still the very same person, no matter from where I log in.
Why don't you give user-based bans, instead of IP-based bans?
We do, sometimes it's both. Problem is that mods can't see ip's (thankfully) so I have no way of knowing if someone is using their real ip or a proxy when I ban them. If I knew they were using tor I wouldn't bother. So you can either suck it up, or we can violate everyone's privacy by letting ips be seen by many more people. The former is the more desirable option, though more Inconvenient for you.
I don't understand why the very same user is banned or not banned, depending on what IP address they use.
Does my personal "spam likeliness" depend on the IP address that I'm using? Certainly not. I'm still the very same person, no matter from where I log in.
Why don't you give user-based bans, instead of IP-based bans?
Does my personal "spam likeliness" depend on the IP address that I'm using? Certainly not. I'm still the very same person, no matter from where I log in.
Why don't you give user-based bans, instead of IP-based bans?
Blame the spammers.
I'm still running into these bans quite often.
And it's annoying to be banned!
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Sorry klabaki, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Spam. (Auto-ban.) You may appeal here: [email protected] . If you are using Tor, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1089571
Spam. (Auto-ban.) You may appeal here: [email protected] . If you are using Tor, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1089571
And it's annoying to be banned!
worked also for me! I saw the red bann banner at the top, then i told my hw firewall box to change the node from sweden to norway
and the banner disappears!
thankx
and the banner disappears!
thankx
However, it seems like a paradox to me that a forum about an anonymous currency denies anonymous access. 
I use Tor (yes, right now) just so my ISP will not know that I make BTC transactions, because of my posts here. They already know more than I want them to know.
Why not just let people pay the forum directly in order to evade the Tor registration block as part of the signup procedure?
Too much work to do manually, but I am in the process of setting up an automated system for this. Once the automated system exists, proxies and abused IPs will be more frequently banned from instant registration, and the newbie restrictions will be removed.
By the way: is it really a policy, that registration at the forum can not come through Tor? (or public proxies for that matter...)
Yes. It's to make it more difficult for banned users to come back. You should hire someone to create an account for you.
Already exist I believe
By the way: is it really a policy, that registration at the forum can not come through Tor? (or public proxies for that matter...)
Yes. It's to make it more difficult for banned users to come back. You should hire someone to create an account for you.
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