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Quote from: Welsh on April 15, 2022, 04:42:01 PM

Why would it matter? As long as they aren't being annoying, dodgy or breaking forum guidelines, I couldn't care less on the identity someone posts under. Don't forget that higher ranked users might be worried about looking bad if they ask a basic question, that's just the reality. While, everyone has basic questions at times, but just some people like to appear more knowledgable than they might be, which isn't a massive problem if it isn't used maliciously.

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

I will go by this, while in other hand we can't be precise about the type of newbie is on the forum, some are truly inexperience while some are experienced newbies in cryptocurrency but new to the forum here, the fact that a user adhere strictly to the forum's rules and regulations then i think it is less of concern to us how, and why or what type of newbie do we come an encounter with on the forum.

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In my opinion, a professional newbie is someone who is coming here but without any knowledge, and he is willing enough to learn and learn more about everything here, about the crypto, forum, and many more information provided here. Newbies that always have serious and continuous efforts to keep learning from reading, mistakes, and experiences so that they can improve their knowledge and ability in this forum and the crypto industry. If he can do it continuously, he will be a good and professional member, and he is a professional newbie.

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There are a lot of newbies who came across here with knowledge about crypto and not just a little knowledge but high knowledge. And those newbies creating useful threads which we can learn through them, we so thank full to have newbies like that because they are here to show what they got. they are an example of good contributor of the forum. Also you are right that mate maybe some newbies account is owned by A high-rank member here in forum or let says smurf or alt accounts.

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Allow me to correct you, from my knowledge I would say there is no such thing as professional newbies here, and even the characteristics you outlined isn’t one that supports your claim, let me be more elaborate, we all here were once newbies to the forum and as anyone new to a place you are meant to read rules and gradual adjusts to the forum, but what I can support is there are professionals in crypto-currency here that are newbies or were newbies that’s very possible. But even at that you still would always have that newbies curiosity on how the forum works.

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Quote from: masulum on July 14, 2022, 04:43:34 PM

exactly, Newbie in the forum doesn't mean everything on him is newbie, there are lots of people who are actually professionals in crypto and blockchain, who may have just created an account on this forum few days/weeks/months ago, so they are become a newbies because of his rank. Actually, rank on this forums doesn't show who the person really is, unless they are shows it to us. For example, by creating a thread about his skills or sharing knowledge through posts/comments.

and the conclusion is don't just look at the cover or the ratings, but see and judge the quality of the posts. I found some newbie even with 1 thread he can explain cryptocurrency and other technical stuff with good sense.

Even legendary ranks who only have high ranks without proper knowledge will lose to those newbie ranks who continue to develop well and have broader knowledge.

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 14, 2022, 03:04:02 PM

I don't know the fact that who is behind the professional people in the forum. It is likely to have been said by some friends above. I think a lot of Bitcoin enthusiasts are outside this forum. The possibility that they are smarter than the person on the forum could have happened.

exactly, Newbie in the forum doesn't mean everything on him is newbie, there are lots of people who are actually professionals in crypto and blockchain, who may have just created an account on this forum few days/weeks/months ago, so they are become a newbies because of his rank. Actually, rank on this forums doesn't show who the person really is, unless they are shows it to us. For example, by creating a thread about his skills or sharing knowledge through posts/comments.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on May 09, 2022, 06:27:14 PM

A professional newbie can also be a fast learner who never knew about bitcoin before. Such newbie can read some lesson about bitcoin and grab them very fast and when ever they talk about bitcoin it looks as if they are old in it.

I don't know the fact that who is behind the professional people in the forum. It is likely to have been said by some friends above. I think a lot of Bitcoin enthusiasts are outside this forum. The possibility that they are smarter than the person on the forum could have happened.
I wouldn't feel bothered by such a person. instead, their presence makes the forum grow more advanced. Although I'm sure there are some quirks if one expert has multiple accounts. Detecting that possibility is also quite difficult, if there is no evidence such as the obligation to send a self-identity.

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What is "professional"?
Profesional means

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a person competent or skilled in a particular activity.

source: google
It means that a professional is a competent or skilled person. How can a newbie is professional if he is exactly a newbie?
Although they are starting their journey and learning at first and being knowledgeable so much, will it mean that he is a professional newbie? if he has got the knowledge and also skillful, I ma sure that he is no longer newbies. But the person who has been increasing their skill, is not a newbie anymore. Newbie means they are exactly new with a certain things and they commonly know nothing.

But it will be different if a newbie in this forum.
Their rank may be newbie, but the people behind the acccount may not new again in the crypto world.
Sometimes, they are the people who have understaood about cyrptocurrency industry from long time ago, but have just registered in this forum so their rank account will be from newbie at first.
And also your otehr probabilities make sense enough.
And I will nto care about this

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Quote from: Gosgosking on May 09, 2022, 06:27:14 PM

A professional newbie can also be a fast learner who never knew about bitcoin before. Such newbie can read some lesson about bitcoin and grab them very fast and when ever they talk about bitcoin it looks as if they are old in it.

It's you people that recommend a professional newbies, actually no professional newbies from my perspective right now. Because from the initial everyone started by learning what is cryptocurrency during the time of creation of this community in year 2009, those people then that don't know what's cryptocurrency and more especially bitcoin and get the understanding here, so we should call them previous or past professional newbies? To be sincere everyone will learn according to its intellectual capability or capacity, either learning very slow or faster doesn't not make someone professional or unprofessional from my perception.. learning is determine by a personal engagement and passion to make your views or ambition to manifest.

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A professional newbie can also be a fast learner who never knew about bitcoin before. Such newbie can read some lesson about bitcoin and grab them very fast and when ever they talk about bitcoin it looks as if they are old in it.

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You can be rest assured that many a person have Bitcoin knowlege at least to an extent, even cryptocurrency itself.
But the rife there is "did they had knowlege about the existence of a forum known as bitcointalk at the time they had already had knowlege about Bitcoin and other altcoins?

So when such persons eventually get to know about bitcointalk and got involved, the way they may contribute to the forum through comments and personal thread from them one may find it difficult to believe that this is actually a newbie in the actual sense of a newbie in the forum.

Going back to your origin no.2, you may actually not be far from the truth, certain accounts users are obviously not newbie but alt_account owners and this creates great difficulty in actually deciphering a genuine newbie from an alt-account user.

Though if am asked as to what category i fall in myself as unbelievably funny as it might seem, I fall in non of these category's.

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Quote from: Bitcoinbride on April 15, 2022, 02:46:42 PM

Who is a Professional Newbie?
A newbie who seems to possess much knowledge already regardless of their low ranks.

Common Attributes
(1) Professional writing style.
(2) Offering unsolicited sort of professional advice and help to others on the forum about forum activities instead of being a newbie who is supposed to learn to walk before running.

How did they come to be;
Three logical origins I can think of
(1) May already be very knowledgeable before joining forum.

(2) Probability of it being an account owned by a user who already is a forum member.

(3) Just an "I too know" habit they may have before joining forum.

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

I swear to God. You do not lie at all. When I saw some newbie's threads, I asked myself, is this a newbie or impersonator? Because the way I suffered in my newbie rank and I saw someone writing as a professional newbie. I always confused. As far in this forum is concerned. I learned things every day. Like today I learned one important thing called Spamming, I really don't know it before, so I was told and directed how to use the forum effectively.
There are some newbies that understand the forum rules more than some members. Though later I became to understand that most newbies understand bitcoin very well before registering to Bitcointalk

As for me please I want to use this medium to also apologise for the Moderators, I have done a lot of mistakes unknowingly, please forgive me. I came to this forum as a novice, it is now that I am learning most of the thangs. At least I have also learnt how to trade bitcoin and the market survey and others.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 19, 2022, 05:51:31 PM

The reality is that anyone who understands bitcoin today is a person who never really understood it before they studied it. His interest and desire to get to know bitcoin in more detail helped by his basic knowledge has made them understand this cryptocurrency faster than others.

Very true. No one had known bitcoin 20yrs ago, no one knows bitcoin before it was invented. Therefore, no one understood it before they studied it according to you. All the experts we see today are the products of determination, consistency and commitment. They made out time to understand bitcoin. And one good thing about bitcoin is that, it's connected, when you understand one part, you are likely to understand another aspect of it and other cryptocurrencies. All you need is time and dedication.

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It might be any of the three options but I personally feel it's mostly the first. There are some people who know about cryptocurrency, who are even making a lot of money in it and are basically living on cryptocurrency (that's what they do for a living), but they might not don't know about bitcointalk yet, some haven't even heard of it before. Whenever people like this find themselves on this forum, it will surely be evident that they were professional before they joined the forum and I believe we have people like that in the forum as well.

People in this category were those who quickly became successful in the forum because of their previous knowledge of cryptocurrency; they spent few months in the forum and they were already scaling up the ranking ladder quickly because they had something to offer, they made quality contribution to the forum and it all paid off for them.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on April 16, 2022, 07:26:28 PM

What the heck is "I too know" habit ? Huh

And your case 2 is just a subcase of case 1 - if a person has another forum account and they have spent a lot of time on the forum, then obviously they got a lot of knowledge prior to starting their second account.

So, yeah, there's only one reason why someone is a "professional newbie" - they already have a knowledge about Bitcoin before creating that account.

I even see it as an advantage from others who are real newbies that don't have the prior knowledge and skills. That way, they lessen the risk in losing since they are aware already that creating dump decisions will only reflect on the loss of your investment. And it does not make a big deal with having low rank like newbie position but are more capable than those who in high ranks. This just means that there is no competition here, but its always an edge if you know everything in this market.

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I honestly do not think there's anything as a professional newbie, this is generally speaking now, bitcoin and cryptocurrency wise, a professional is a professional and a newbie is a newbie, there is no such thing as a professional newbie.

That someone just joined the forum does not necessarily mean they are just joining crypto, they might have been into crypto for a long time before coming across this forum, and even though they are give the newbie rank when they join here, it is a matter of short time before their forum rank will catch up with their level of knowledge in crypto (depending on their posting habit though.)

We all are here to discuss crypto, and a crypto newbie is a crypto newbie while a crypto professional is a crypto professional, for me personally, there is no such thing as professional newbie.

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Quote from: Welsh on April 15, 2022, 04:42:01 PM

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This.
I even recall Donators in this forum, which surely they are the ones that have been in here for so long, selling an account which is highly discouraged in here. I was surprised that some do those kind of stuffs still.
Good thing merit system was implemented as well though. It helps those "newbie" in rank show what rank they do indeed deserve.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on April 15, 2022, 07:29:08 PM

Usually people who join a forum dedicated to discuss a certain subject, are either knowledgeable about that sibject or at least interested in it. Bitcointalk is an exception because most new accounts (newbies) are either part of a big farm or created solely for the purpose of joining bounty campaigns. They don't care about learning or sharing their knowledge with others (if they have any).
What's certain is that the account rank doesn't always reflect the real level of knowledge of the account's owner.

True. You cannot justify that all newbie positions have lower level of knowledge. Their rank may be low but knowing that they have started to discuss the topic, or have joined in the discussion, proves already that they have been into researching or have prior knowledge about that. Same with the higher position in the forum. There are still sr. member or hero position that create low quality posts, that sometimes even newbies create quality post than them.

Yes, rank cant be used to justify the knowledge of a newbie but 98% of all professional newbies are alt of a member that understands the community system and i cant assure you that no matter knowledgeable a newbie was in the cryptocurrency aspect, it will still take the person something to understand most rules and regulation of the forum.
Therefore, a newbie that has concrete crypto knowledge and understands 95% of the forum rules is definitely an alt of an established member of the forum

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Quote from: khaled0111 on April 15, 2022, 07:29:08 PM

Usually people who join a forum dedicated to discuss a certain subject, are either knowledgeable about that sibject or at least interested in it. Bitcointalk is an exception because most new accounts (newbies) are either part of a big farm or created solely for the purpose of joining bounty campaigns. They don't care about learning or sharing their knowledge with others (if they have any).
What's certain is that the account rank doesn't always reflect the real level of knowledge of the account's owner.

True. You cannot justify that all newbie positions have lower level of knowledge. Their rank may be low but knowing that they have started to discuss the topic, or have joined in the discussion, proves already that they have been into researching or have prior knowledge about that. Same with the higher position in the forum. There are still sr. member or hero position that create low quality posts, that sometimes even newbies create quality post than them.

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Quote from: Bitcoinbride on April 15, 2022, 02:46:42 PM

Who is a Professional Newbie?
A newbie who seems to possess much knowledge already regardless of their low ranks.

Common Attributes
(1) Professional writing style.
(2) Offering unsolicited sort of professional advice and help to others on the forum about forum activities instead of being a newbie who is supposed to learn to walk before running.

How did they come to be;
Three logical origins I can think of
(1) May already be very knowledgeable before joining forum.

(2) Probability of it being an account owned by a user who already is a forum member.

(3) Just an "I too know" habit they may have before joining forum.

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

Some people actually have bitcoin knowledge before joining the forum, not all newbies accounts that can post and engage in discussions are alt accounts owned by a member of the forum. He may have learned to walk before joining so thats its easy for them to run.

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