Topic: Profitable Gambling Sites Up For Sale - page 2. (Read 2563 times)

Let me be more clear. I purchased the scripts you are speaking about. Ran them for a week and was like NOPE! I hired a developer and worked with him for two weeks recreating the script from scratch to make it a. more secure and b. bring the code up to date.

Those scripts use mysql mixed with php, and have at least 8 major exploits. One of them being that you can double withdraw using two browsers. Another being that a user can spam the wallet by constantly clicking the deposit button, which would give them a new address every single time. Over a short period of time, this does nothing significant but over time can be a big problem.

Those are actually some of the smaller exploits you will get when using those scripts.

My sites are updated php and mysqli, with the exploits not existing.

I semi-understand you crying scam, but the fact is it stems from your ignorance. Just because you dont understand something doesnt make it a scam. Its the equivalant of calling fireworks witchcraft.

You dont have the qualifications to judge whether a site is using custom code, because you clearly dont understand how something can behave the same way, yet use a different backend source code. Of course it behaves similar, I paid for it to behave similar. I also paid to have features you wont find on those clone scripts, added.

I dont want to call you simple, but at this point arguing with you is a waste of time, and invites negative energy.

Like I said, any potential buyers will have full disclosure before any btc is transferred. So your entire argument is invalid.

I don't understand why you insist on saying its a custom script, its clearly not. At the very minimum you copied the entire front end from existing wheels.

https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/download-misc/spin-wheel-wheel-script-for-any-coin-installing/
(This has been on cryptothrift for a long time)

http://www.btcircle.com/?unique=6PPfuXr1zdLm7PO63vRwbDykT0Pwg2kQ# Do Not Share This URL!
(Been for sale since early november 2013)

Both of which mysteriously have the same interface as yours, with the same features

Done posting on this thread, goodluck with your auction

This seems to be good to buyer. +1 for the seller.

1. Not even close. The idea is the same, but code is written from scratch. Uses mysqli, perhaps you would like to post what the clone script is written in?
2. Again, because of your lack of knowledge or belief that some of us wouldnt choose the hard path of having a site coded from scratch instead of simply using a clone script, you have assumed you were being lied to about number 1 above. You poor poor little bastard.
3. Its not irrelevant at all, at this point you are just a hater jumping to conclusions.
4. You and I are done with all types of discusison, nothing will be proven to you specifically.
5. Site is still up for auction, serious bidders or potential buyers will get full disclosure before purchase.
6. If this were scam, it wold be a huge waste of my time. Obviously anyone willing to put up the cash to take the sites over would want full disclosure before transfer of any btc. I think you are used to encountering little 3rd world mongrels who would trade their mothers for a little btc to gamble with.

Nothing you posted made any sense.

1. No, it really is the same script
2. When you decided to tell me in PM's that it was a custom made script --> scammer
3. Its completely irrelevant what you have in your wallet. The sites a big looser.


Prove the site makes income or get the fuck out

Go ahead and download that code available in the forums. What you will end up with is having everything in your wallet emptied with double browser withdrawal attacks. You will also end up with a wallet so bloated with deposit addresses, it will eventually become combersome to operate.

The site may look like that script available for download, but behind the scenes it is a completely different story. That code is so insecure, you wouldnt lose from players winning, you'd lose by being attacked.

I have no problems with taking the site down, and just dooming it to my hard drive while my next project launches.

Thanks for sharing private messages though. Some people see scams everywhere they look, some people see opportunity. The fact is half of you who cry scammer at everything, are either scammers or so poor that the idea of anyone actually making good money seems unfathomable. The truth is most people get int their own way so much, money becomes a pipe dream to them, only obtained by those who already have it.


As one last fuck you to AcoinL.L.C for approaching it this way, when I would have easily answered any questions he had...

Here you go, how is this for proof of income... Keeps your bids Acoin, I wouldnt sell to you no matter the amount offered.

Lets get down to brass tac's here. This is only a portion of holdings that I use for pocket cash and trading on the market.

http://i.imgur.com/4g5EEDb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YUwUx8Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q9bi8Km.jpg

Web url of site (So anyone can check my #'s):
www.wowsuchspin.com

There is a 99.9% chance this user is a scammer. The site barely has any bets placed on it recently, and the total house loss is STAGGERING! Than, to top it off, user claims its unique code! If OP can prove its NOT a scam, and can prove his income, I will start the bidding. Until than, be very, very wary!

Claimed revenue is $24,000 a month, when in fact there have been no bets placed in the last 24 hours across any of the wheels. For a gambling site to have $24,000 in revenue, that means what, ~$80,000(?) in bets placed? Most people don't place large bets either. To further add to the confusion, it appears that the houese loses nearly every single spin (most of the multipliers are 2x-3x to!!).

Quick overcap of the wheels:

Darkcoin wheel: 18,688 spins total, last spin: 2014-07-18 04:16:29 CET
Total house loss: 320.75 Darkcoins  (over last 30 spins)
Total USD loss: $2287 (rounded up) (@$7.13 per darkcoin)

Litecoin wheel: 622 total spins, last spin: 2014-05-26 01:53:58 CET
Total house loss: 5,646 Litecoins
Total USD loss: $48,668.5  (@$8.62 per litecoin)


Bitcoin wheel: 1751 spins total, last spin: 2014-07-18 04:16:29 CET (Note: All bets placed by 1 user)
Total house loss: 12.33BTC (over last 30 spins)
Total USD loss: $7722 (rounded up) (@ $626.26 per bitcoin)

Vertcoin wheel: 697 spins total, last spin: 2014-07-16 22:38:40 CET (Note: All bets placed by 2 users with consecutive user ID #'s)
Total house loss: 3859.6 Vertcoin's
Total USD loss: $100.22 (@$0.22 per vertcoin)


Total USD losses: $58,777.72 (over past 30 spins of each wheel)
(NOTE: I rounded losses / wins with weird numbers or long strains (IE 0.221493432))




Some of my favorite quotes from OP (in PM's):
Quote 1:
"The code is original. The clones and this code are of no comparision. I decided to switchover to wowsuchspin.com urls when doge became popular, and the name just stuck.

One thing to note about the clones, they are insecure from what I can tell. Wowsuchspin is written in MySqli, and has been extensively tested against just about anything an attacker would attempt. Also the clones dont have the same features wowsuchspin does.

Not trying to pat myself on the back, just trying to explain it the best that I can."

This is a blatant lie, this script has been available for sale since early november 2013 here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/start-your-own-gambling-site-coinwheel-10-script-1-btc-327123


Quote 2:
"The big wins are spins the admin would do to keep the site fresh. Its not the type of site that will attract a spin every second, more like a few players a week, which is all it takes to easily make $800-$1000 per day of the month when averaged out."

$800-$1000 a day? Really? Prove it. If the "big wins" are from the admin, the only remaining bets are the little ones. No way they add up to $800-1000 a day when your barely getting bets placed.

Im not afraid of escrow provided it is a reputable place.

Im also not against accepting half of any agreed upon buy amount, transferring the domains, collecting the remainder and then transferring the sites themselves. Or the other way around with sites being sent first, then domains after the remainder is paid.

Whoever wins the auction, will have extensive conversations with me before we even start talking about transfering any bitcoin.

Im basically bitcoin rich, and have been way before these sites even existed. Im not here to scam, I could care less about scamming, and its not even on my radar. I can imagine how many scams are attempted though so Im willing to make it as comfortable as possible for the potential buyers.

It comes down to the fact that I want them to still exist, and running if possible, but I dont want to let them go for nothing at the same time. It doesnt do my work nor the sites themselves, justice if I just give them away or shut them down.

Sites also come with a developer who charges decent prices for any big changes you may want. Developer is trusted and knows the code inside and out. Ive only worked with one developer for sensitive projects and this guy is the best, and you wont have to worry about anyone sharing the code if you happen to want something added or changed.

Im getting interest in private messages, so hopefully I will either be able to auction it off for a fair price and hand them over, or will be able to work out a deal with someone in private messages.

Thanks

Newbie account does NOT mean scam

HOWEVER .. with no rep, transaction would have to go through a trusted escrow, obviously.

Please send me a PM with URLs + proof of revenue / traffic

Guys why does newbie account needs to mean scam ? If somebody did not want of have time to make acc here before doesn't mean he is scammer .

I know WheelKing , aka FeedTheBaby on primedice , he is regular there , done many rains, and deals with me and some other people never scammed nobody. And his site / games are rly cool.

Ofc i don't have money to buy but i know he is legit.

Just my 2 satoshi's .

Good luck with selling FTB .

There are 5 different urls, each has its own coin and associated wheel. The 24k revenue is from a cobination of the sites per month. No redirects. More coins and urls can easily be added to start a wheel for another coin within minutes.

You wrote:
Details about the site(s):

Type of sites: Betting Wheels
Revenue: Combined roughly 24kusd per month total (Details, screen shots and transaction ids, etc are available to serious potential buyers upon my discretion)
Number of sites: 5 (1 main url with 5 subdomains, covering 5 coins total)
Included: 5 sites, all URL(s), all easily editable images and anything else associated.

please correct me if I am wrong. I understand that the 24k revenue is from the 5 sites and not from one site? or is it from the main site and the other 4 sites/URLs are redirecting to main site?

thanks

I have a few ideas of what I would set a buy it now price to, however I prefer a straight auction.

Im not against offers though. Like to original post states, anyone interested in information can simply pm me provided they have a good reputation.

Do you actually know how trust in forum works? Because it seems you not. And how my trust is negative or worse than yours. I'm here longer and done more deals with others than you. Some people was given negative just because they asked for it, some people hit me back with negative because i gave them. Can you filter genuine trust from fake one created to discredit my person?

And yeah, my trust showing that i will use your sites to scam others. Thats made me laugh.

I think you just looking for noobs, by not disclosing any details to potential buyers. Your silly approach showing you not serious at all.
And your comment "The less associations I have with different sites....the better" just proves you and your sites are shady.

is it  an auction only event or is there a buy now price too?

All sites are provably fair. Not sure what sounds too good to be true, its a wheel site that makes money. Its pretty simple.

No, as I stated, I prefer to deal with someone with a good reputation. Im not looking for newbies to take advantage of. In fact I prefer to deal with someone who is long in the tooth when it comes to bitcoin and gaming etc.

The more experience the better. I dont want to put a site in the hands of someone who will abuse its players. Your trust score seems to suggest you would. Also having no trust score is better than a negative trust score. Not sure how you think otherwise.

This isnt some account created to scam anyone, its to simply auction the wheel sites, and never to be used again. Any potential buyers will have extensive one on one time with me before any type of transaction is even started.

Really? my trust is low said guy who used account just created to post mystery sale with no trust what so ever. My trust is bigger than yours and probably this will stay like that.
So now you choosing what to disclose and to whom?
Are you looking for noob to send you btc without seeing site and proofs that you made any profit?

Smells fishy.shady as hell.

I suggest escrow for this as this just to good to be true. And once someone will get info from him, please post it to see what he got and if this is really so worth it as he states.

Your trust score is a little low man.