Topic: Project #2 is industial hopping... Chaang Noi's (Goat) confession (Read 3414 times)

Why don't you talk directly with forrestv? He might be amenable to creating a second p2pool, and/or acting on some of the ideas in the p2pool thread about ways to spin off alternate or sub p2pools.

watching...

P4man: if everyone would trickle shares equally to every pool, you would need more pool ops than 2 or three.

Do not judge me wrong. I also like the idea of p2p-pool and other collaboration force. But in the end there are only 24*6 winning shares on average on a day. It screams for some kind of centralisation ahem, no better a finite (block finding) number of collaboration teams/pools/solominers.

I read about p2ppool, AFAI can remember it is essentially opening up a mining blockchain with lower difficulty, so more "pseudo" easy winning shares are found, and the real good shares are also passed on to bitcoind. (a bit more) (hope there is no loophole, people will abuse...as there might be)

Seems a legit solution. But as in alternative energies I see a mix needed. Not everyone needs to mine "p2p"pool. But it surely would not hurt at all it having a quarter of the mining force or maybe more.

Also like long time ago predicted: Mining seems to become more and more a specialised business...

Also this big 51% attack...all entities having active control of this (slush,tycho,eleuthria) right now are what i would say true supporters. More of a problem is a entity wanting to destroy BTC in general. An entity coming from an external source with unlimited "real life coins" that builds a huge anti blockchain farm.

I would say in general: more constant hashes per second needed from people who want support bitcoin. This hashes have to hash: it does not matter that much where (maybe people should not start mining on the big three). It really matters that they hash.

So everyone move to washington state/canada/greenland/norway/southern russia/wehretheelectronsflow cheap and build more gpu farms. Or go FPGA..... BUT HASSSSSSSH MOA MOA MOA MOA HASH HASH... everyone...ahshahshahshahsha

HASHHASHHASH256HASHHASHHSHA256HASHHASHAHSHHASHASHHSHAHSHASHGOATHASHTOOKAHSHAITA HSHATOOHASHSHASHFARHSHASHAHSHHASHHAHSSHASHISHASHAHSHASHASHALLAHASHIAHSAASHWANTE DAHSASHASHTOASHASHSAHSAY256 0000000000006666969696962354242424 42

anyone have free beer or silk road coupons anyone actually thought about making a mining gpu popcorn machine?

Of course that solves almost nothing (other than protection against the pools being down).
If 2 or 3 pools that have >50% combined decide to collude to launch a double spend attack in your scenario, thats still entirely possible.

HOW TO Peer 2 Peer/decentralize mining with no new Software level 1:

sign in with every pool there is. add account to cgminer, round robin the shares between pools/peer, make solo mining  as a failover. Voila: decentralized hopping and no need even for new software "all this wanna be decentralized all of a sudden"

Your total hopping income sounds like a fair price for such software to fight hopping as you said.

This.
If i were to have any trust in these guys, id gladly offer 3GH for hopping at 100% PPS if the profits went to P2Pool bonusses.

hopping=mining... decentralized mining includes ....
Hey organofcorti, full ack to btcproxy.net but i doubt a lot of people use that site and never was agressively marketed.

farfiman: LUL ... nice one

If that is the motivation,  send ALL hopping profits to P2P bonuses

...and in  the mean time I'll make as much as I can off the son of a bitch uninformed miners that don't have a clue...

Except for this instance of it.

Ill give you benefit of the doubt of not understanding the concept of Private - Beta. I dont want to publicly post the pool details since I have one main concern, getting DDOS'd before I am even properly isnt the same as fun in my dictionary.

My worst failure that I am guilty of is naming it 115% PPS, it was meant to look more attractive than the competition(goat) at that time so I simply went with it. I will need to change the wording of the title it seems.

I made my point and u dont remember ur first post where u blame a second entity/others causing problems.

You, sir, are officially a self stated member of the club by first post.

(and if deepbit asked you stop hopping and you did, then you even kind of obeyed unwritten ethics rule #2: We do not want to kill pools)

You are for decentralization, but centralized a decentralized hopping network.  mmmhkay

"Nonhop" DDOS on centralized mining pools were never a problem for hoppers, we were not fixed on one pool. Even if all pools are gone: backup solo mining. Most classic miners probably have only two pools, maybe three pools in their config heightening the chance that their hashrate will vanish with a ddos on multiplepools...

Also our "proxy" (the hopping program) was not centralized on one or two server. No, everyone runs his own.

If you are for decentralization as you kind of try to show everyone.... I guess you will have to switch off the phat centralized hopping pool, won't you?

PS: One thing should have been crystal clear to you, which obviously was not. There is a natural barrier for hopping. U sir, are adding a lotta pressure. We will see if the ballon pops or already popped in the next time and I still would not mind sipping a beerlao somewhere in SEA with you

Goat, you did not follow the first rule of the club by starting your "business". Now that the club seems to get trouble by your opening the pandoras box you blame others by again breaking the first rule of the club? I am sorry, but i do not understand. Y U NO DIVIDE WORKER and stay below the minimum radar height. Does the pool have way too much Buoyancy which u can not handle and make it become a submarine? Ah forgot: U never went below the min height. U wanted to be seen....

LOL, even if rhino is clipse (which he says he is not), u are like half of the top10 @ clockers right now. So rhino is actually not the problem i guess as he is about 33% of goat.

oh darn...this aint good.

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dunno about others, can talk about me. I actually thought about asking u in pm, but then i was like: no, I like schrödingers cat. To really know certain takes out the fun Probably a lot of people did not get it. But like i said: we were off the radar...

greetz to not the samui area, somewhere northern, forgot where u lived at, but heard u wanted to visit samui this year

i understand that he does all im saying is show a little more proof of said it might help him out a little more then just saying i dont hop blah blah blah and 10gh is pretty easy to achiever i think 50 id like to see lol pics are always nice anyways give new ideas for me to setup more rigs as well lol

dmcurser: clipse definitely has a farm, dunno if 50gh/s. it is def. over 10 gh/s.

ok im not hear to defend anyone or anything but hey clipse maybe you should post pics of you standing in front of your 50 gh mining pool of yours with todays newspaper or somthing i see in your other post that you have a 50 gh farm and thats how you pay everyone so maybe thats a good way to clear your name if you cant offe that then who is to believe that your not doing the same as goat