Topic: [Project Development] CoinWorker.com - earn bitcoin in your browser in minutes - page 4. (Read 38469 times)

Thank you for the reply.  

I normally do not login into Coinworker and instead use a shortcut as per "http://coinworker.com/tasks/1Gb8deP1prDXbeHRBTTPjxv6VWDnrFwM8d".  Apparently this also means that I almost never logout.  Therefore, depending on my previous login and my location, i.e. whether accessiong Coinworker from home or office, tasks payment pile up separately under different login and naturally are indistinguishable (to me at least) due to using the same payment address.  But at least I know what the problem was and most importantly, that the payment will accumulate and be made at 180 points for separate logins, regardless of under which logins the tasks were performed.  

I was naturally worried since I saw my pending balance reaches 400 points yesterday.  I also checked the different payment adddresses of fellow Coinworkers and notice that some had over 300 points unpaid balance and several with around 200 points (e.g. 1D3stvWcGFKR6nVHGULcwDMy8aAPNVtB4p , 14kXUG8HriKyoe478BQRwJBHX6WTvHYbsK, 1AtWSc3GKs4e4NsgmVyvhJVxq5u9wZuhvG).   I just tag and shortcut their account and check to see whether their accounts have been paid, from time to time.
As some of the older unpaid tasks dated from Jan 15, when USD/BTC was around 14, compare to the rather dizzying 17.5 yesterday.  Thus the BTC received has been reduced effectively by 20% due to the exchange rate fluctuation during this period.  

Fortunately I just saw the payment a few hours ago and I would like to thank you as it was quite a relief.  I would like to thank you for creating Coinworker and for the services that it provides to the Bitcoin community.    

Thanks for reporting your concerns. I think the confusion may be due to the fact that the payment trigger must be reached per CoinWorker login account, not per pay-to-address.

My per-login-account reports show SalvorHardin with an 84 point balance, all earned since 2013-Jan-20 03:41 UTC. All prior work was paid  then... there are no older unpaid tasks on that account.

Any later tasks you see paid on the activity page were done by another account though with the same pay-to address. That account's balance hit the trigger, and so all of its tasks were paid, but this had no effect (positive or negative) on the separate SalvorHardin tasks. I will send you more information via a DM.

To give a more complete picture and allay any concerns that older unpaid work is not being shown, the address activity pages will now show the last 200 units. Also, your per-user profile page, accessible while logged-in by clicking the top-right login name link, should always show all unpaid "Tasks Pending Payment", no matter the age or count.

{Warge 

Hi, as there was no response to my last post, please note that I have received another batch of payment for my works today. 

Yet, the previous unpaid tasks still remain unpaid.  In fact, they have started to accumulated.  Rather than 23 points unpaid, now they are 28 points unpaid spread over 14 completed tasks.  Due to the 100 most recent tasks limit, the Activity list displays only 11 unpaid tasks now.  The older unpaid 3 tasks from 5 days ago have now disappeared from the listing, but their points still count toward the Pending Balance. 

Please find a way to see if the unpaid tasks can be included into future payment   Thank you.

Hi, I have noticed recently that some of the task completed were never paid, some are over 3~4 days now.  For some reason, other more recent tasks are paid in subsequent batches, ignoring the unpaid tasks all together. 

For example, SalvorHardin - 2013-Jan-13 01:29 - 3 points - 1Gb8deP1prDXbeHRBTTPjxv6VWDnrFwM8d - "NEW RULES: Flag and tag images that contain adult content", were never paid.
There are even older unpaid tasks than this task, but apparently the "Activity" list at Coinworker can only show 100 most recent tasks. 
You can only now see that there are tasks unpaid by tabulating the points from unpaid tasks, e.g. at this moment, there are only 9 unpaid tasks out of 100 tasks, but they only add up to 17 points, vs 23 points unpaid on the account.  So I know that there are at least two 3 points tasks left unpaid beyond the most recent 100 completed tasks.

I am asking this because I start to notice this happening on Jan 13 Sunday.  At the time, I thought that it was just a hiccup, and the unpaid tasks will be included in the next batch of payment.  But I have just completed over 180 points and got paid again.  But those unpaid tasks remain unpaid, except that they can NOT be seen from the Activity List anymore.
I have also noticed that more tasks have become unpaid on list (i.e. did not get included in the most recent payment) and I worry that they won't be included in the future payment either. 
Please investigate and see what's going on here.  Thank you.

I've been using this site for a couple hours now, and I have 0.06 BTC.  It's a great idea, and although it could be more (and the 180 point limit is really annoying), it seems like one of the better ways to make BTC of the web without any specialized knowledge.

I haven't seen reports of such problems previously, other than occasional brief delays in some reports, which catch up in a matter of hours.

If you DM me your CoinWorker login name or pay-to address, I'll take a closer look in case there's a new error, or something specific with those tasks.

Note that while points are usually credited in within a minute or two, payments only happen once your total reaches the payout threshold (currently 180pts).

{Warge

 

Has anybody else also encountered non-payments of points after completing a task?

I've already completed two 17-points tasks: (Évaluation des résultats de recherche sur www.pagesdor.be (R)), but my points never went up at all...
Also the % of accuracy never went up after completing these tasks...

Anyone else encountered such problems???

EDIT: the finished tasks are also not listed under "completed tasks" :s WTF is going on

Well Ente's reply explains the bad money I've got.. I know, it's free.. But come on I'm not some kind of slave (although I'm not forced to do it, I'd like some better payment).

It seems like the payments/points were steadily falling.. Obviously crowdflower are testing how low they can go.
So, in this case the best you can do is stop working for them once they cross your limit. Hopefully they will readjust the payments again then.

Ente

whats going on with coinworker ? they suxs now

i just found that message: "Payments are currently on hold for pending balances under 180 points."

what the hell! its damn easy to mistake sometimes and then your % of accuracy drops a lot, and then you are unable to keep
mining with your mind,
all your efforts and time lost for nothing, time ago coinworker was nice, paying constantly, now this rule is just cr4p to make you work
and avoid been paid.
180 points... 180 ddos deserves this web.

i succeed to make 0.6 bitcoins in the past and a lot of time inversion, now it just don't worth the effort at all.
I am very disappointed. 

I guess you couldn't see my tongue in my cheek! 


Perhaps, although it's the "free market" setting those prices. If no one would work for those wages, then it's likely the going rate would rise.  Of course, that kind of work (e.g. determine if this address is a business or a residence) has some, but limited value to the requester. Also, since CrowdFlower asks each question of multiple workers, the individual payment is a fraction of what the requester paid for the question.


Looks like using CrowdFlower provides a stream of questions to be answered, so it has some value.  It may be that CrowdFlower evaluates which "labor partners" are best suited for different tasks, and allocates jobs accordingly.  If that's the case, then if/as better workers join CoinWorker, better, higher paying jobs will be assigned.

Small fortune from 17:43-20:09?

In total 02:26, or 2.4333 hours for 21*0.0017=0.0357 BTC which means 0.0147 BTC/hour
With MtGox listing $11.93818 as the average currently, that's $0.1755/hour.

There are complains in the CrowdFlower forum about those low payments.
Warge should look for alternatives.

Looks like someone's been making a small fortune there: 
Working: http://coinworker.com/activity/1M1VbdoakFcTgJpHX8SSX5wJDnJBoboKty
Getting paid: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1M1VbdoakFcTgJpHX8SSX5wJDnJBoboKty

The site has been promising when it started and I made a few coins there, but over the past months I've stopped using it.
I logged in again a few days ago to see that I have only japanese tasks, and I'm nowhere near Japan or proxying.
The company behind it, Crowdflower, seems to be really clueless when it comes to solving problems: their support site is flooded with complains and nothing really gets solved.
Also, the rewards have dropped constantly to a level where you can earn more by going for a walk and looking for a penny on the street.
That's pretty sad, because I really liked the idea.

A very interesting site, I've already done some 'mind mining'.

I registered for CoinWorker two days ago with the impression that I'd be able to earn some money doing human intelligence tasks (in a similar spirit to Amazon's Mechanical Turk). While the website did leave said impression, there's still some things that I thought would be nice to discuss regarding the website:

• Organization:

The tasks page performs as intended, but is nevertheless a list of somewhat disparate tasks (among the ever-so-common "Search Google and answer questions about the search results" tasks). Would be nice if they were categorized by locale, language, and job type just to name a few.

• Availability:

For me, availability in CoinWorker lends itself to many different ideas. One, the set of tasks to choose from is somewhat limited to the torrent of "Search Google and answer questions about the search results" tasks and Japanese/Korean tasks. It would be nice to have more creative, engaging, and higher-paying tasks than the ones provided at this very moment (e.g. "Write Short Answers to Questions").

What availability can also mean is the amount of available tasks of a certain category (represented by the x available text in the red square beside every task listing). Many times during my short stay at CoinWorker have I clicked on a certain task, only to be greeted with a Finished! page without actually performing any task. If only said counter were more accurate at showing you how many tasks of a certain category are actually available.

A third facet of the availability argument lies in what happens when you complete all the work you can for a certain task. Such a situation should probably have said task removed from the list of available tasks, or at least have the listing for said task differentiated from the other available ones.

Let me tell you: being a(n unemployed) student; performing such simple tasks like the ones posted on CoinWorker not only occupies my free time in a semi-purposeful manner, it also helps me earn the bitcoins I would never be able to achieve with CPU mining of any sort (due to not being financially equipped to take the volatile risk of investing in GPU/ASIC). All it needs are little improvements here and there to keep the concept fresh and alive; looking forward to earning (then, cashing out) my first 200 points! :3

From your screenshot, it seems you reported it through the proper CrowdFlower channels. My impression is that tasks and task-training sometimes have glitches that get worked out over time, with enough reports.

Just keep checking back for when similar and possibly improved tasks appear.

{Warge

This is ridiculous, I can no longer do the categorize business ones because I entered http://www.bankofamerica.com instead of https://www.bankofamerica.com, even though I copied and pasted the search result.

This combined with he find address on the map ones that have the location in the middle of the ocean are really frustrating.

How can I get a  second chance to do these?

https://i.imgur.com/NQlVb.gif?1

Your right it's working fine now that I am using a VPN, thanks for the advice.

Sorry about that. I believe the tasks back-end is using IP address to control task availability.

Is there a chance your internet-provider routes things through Japan? (For example, what does an online service like http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_my_ip report as your approximate location using IP to guess?)

{Warge