Topic: Projects Visibility (Sig Campaigns) in Bitcointalk. - page 2. (Read 870 times)

Yeah, branding should be the main focus but project wants quick result lol.

Same here, to be honest. I much rather search for the service's ANN thread to get more information about it. And there is usually a link to the official website there. Then I compare to see if it's the same that I found on search engines.
But the signatures have its use, otherwise the projects wouldn't be advertising here. You see them, the pictures and designs get stuck into your mind and you remember the names. Later down the road, if you need a service like the ones you saw advertised on Bitcointalk, those images come back. That's one way the projects benefit from signature campaigns. 

True, people barely click on signatures. And if a campaign evaluate the result with the clicks from the signature tracking link, they will simply stop running campaign here because the conversion rate from the tracking link will be too low to evaluate even. I can't remember if I have ever clicked on any signature to join a casino or check out a mixer.

True, but that's not the kind of information a random person like the OP would have. They would have to contact the casinos and ask for the information from them, and I don't know if they would be willing to share it in public. It also needs to be done regularly as each week/month can have different results.

I don't think that many people click on random signatures anyways. Perhaps only on those from high-quality members that are instantly recognizable.

This a cool thread, the great information is being merged and collected for everyone to see how much budget is being put into all of the existing campaigns in here. And I was mindblown and late to realize that I'm in a campaign that has the most participants, kudos to our manager Hhampuz for doing all of the hard work plus the other campaigns that he's also managing and also to the other managers as well.

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1xbit's manager has already said that the campaign has ended and locked the thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62144278
So I guess that should be removed from the list just as what we're seeing on the overview of signature campaigns when a campaign is done and has ended, it gets removed.

It is exactly as you have said and that is why I don't want to hasten into unnecessary edits or updates. Due to my own time, I'll consider to be updating this thread every 7days. By this I'll remove ended campaigns, include newly launched campaigns. But the first edit will include what people have pointed out, including adding the date the campaign was launched etc.

Well, the campaign didn't actually require to post only on threads with 5 pages or less. After all, who can tell whether or not the thread would grow into a mega thread? What's preferred is that posts are made within those 5 pages. The discussion would continue and create 10, 20, 50, or even 100 pages more. As a matter of fact, you can still join in those kinds of discussions provided you don't focus your posts there. And for a campaign seeking visibility, that's understandable. Posts are quickly buried.

Certain threads in gambling discussion are rather unique. And it's completely understandable also if they grow into mega threads. It's because they're not discussing a specific game or event or tournament or a similar topic. They're basically covering leagues and sports. You mentioned Premier league. There's also the NBA, La Liga, MMA, ESports, and others. They're general topics. They don't have an end.

I also appreciate it this takes time and effort, I recommend OP add the word so it will read


Because this is a reference thread, you have to update it and members will come back or subscribe to get a notification in case there is a new change or check what is added to the list.

Reference thread is hard to configure you must have good knowledge of forum codes., and you always have to come back to update new entries.

I think this was misinterpreted. BestChange preferably counts posts in the first two or even three pages of such questionable "spammy" threads. Some threads have a mature discussion even after 15 pages and I didn't notice that they ^BestChange don't count constructive posts in such a discussion. It is also understandable, they are a universal service and want to be visible everywhere on the forum, not only in priority gambling, for example.

And honestly, I'm not sure how much gambling mega threads contribute to signature promotion, because none or just a few people go back to the previous page to read something. Only the Stake campaign makes sense there, where such threads are crowded with their signatures.


Yes, it can be said that you don't write much in all parts of the forum 6217 in only 365 topics 

Similar view as well, discussions that happen on mega threads such as premier league is usually about the upcoming match, match that just got over or on some news, hence content is always fresh and not repetitive.

A nice overview (especially regarding the budgets and participant numbers), with some obvious shortcomings of course.
1 post of a highly rated member in an important thread is worth a 100 shitposts and that can't be seen here.

I'd be way more interested to see how these budgets are used - but that's impossible to measure.

While we're commenting campaigns, let me quickly touch on this one as well.


Personally, I feel that this is a horrible rule and creates a ton of spam as well. I have over 6000 posts and I don't think more than 5% of them is written in threads that have less than 5 pages.
These threads are usually the 'most worthless' on my list when evaluating who writes where and what.

Forcing someone to open a 'how was your day in crypto today' spamthread because a post in Premier league thread is considered as spam is, well, not the best move you can make as a campaign manager.

It's a great effort, I appreciate it. There is a misinformation that Yo!Mix is not based on the concept of green zone, but rather on a $30 bonus.

Adding some graphic visual representations instead of tables will make the comparison between these advertising campaigns better.

Thanks for the observation...some of the campaigns don't really have needs for remarks, but to not leave them vacant, I pick some peculiar thing in the campaign and fix there. If need be, I may consider them vacant.


I missed to react to this earlier. Even though Rikafip has admitted that there's no better way of calculating this visibility than what we have here. I want to say that the posts in Mega threads are still made in this forum and also it is users who visit those mega threads and make those posts. That means those posts are not written in the vacuum. Besides when you make a google search with the right key words, it will still take you to the exact page of the mega thread if it is where that particular key word is found.
In as much as such post in made in this forum it counts and visible to different people who might be of different interest.

Yes, many shortcomings would be amended on the next update and with type we would arrive at near accuracy.

When one info is wrong, it will surely affect others. In your campaign you give bonuses to best posters which varies in amount and the number of best posters per week. So, to arrive at my data, I used the highest bonus giveable to multiply maximum number of participants that can receive bonus a week.

Sure, dkbit98 also mentioned Coinsloty. Seems these campaigns are private and I wouldn't bother the project owners for statistics, unless whoever develops interest just as dkbit98 did.

Interesting stats for signature campaigns and I hope you will manage to update this on regular basis ^{(easier said than done)}, but I am not sure if Stake members are all maxing out their posts.
I don't think that number of participants is always increasing visibility of specific signature campaigns, it all depends where and how members write their posts.
@rby maybe you can include CoinSlotty campaign in you list, we started with small but mighty group of people, and soon this should be expanded to more members.

Agree with this, scam company and I don't think there is any member of that campaign I don't have on ignore Don't like to see any exposure for them as well.

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@rby superb job, and I don't know how this could be done better. I will just list some of the shortcomings of current format and maybe you or somebody else can find a way to mitigate some of them. Don't think of this as critique even though it will probably sound like it  

1. For instance just looking at LiveCasino campaign I am managing, if I was writing the info in the table only campaign name and participants number would stay as they are now. All other info is not 100% correct even though I feel it is clearly shown in our spreadsheet and rules. If there are mistakes in such small campaign then I have to take all the other info with a bit of reserve as well.

2. Number of posts per week as main metric of campaign visibility is not good enough criteria to measure. For instance Stake campaign is on the top of the list while I would personally argue they are generating so much spam that it even has negative exposure. But that is quite subjective and I don't know how somebody can incorporate it into something meaningful.

3. Place where posts are written should be valued in same way as well. I will again mention Stake since I am basically in gambling sections all the time. Most of their members are writing in spam mega threads that are mostly ignored by good members. Resulting with increasing post counts in threads that are only frequented by other spammers, where nobody is even reading the posts before adding their own. To be fair I am guilty of facilitating some of that as well since I am creator of English Premier league thread for instance and that one has been hit quite badly with spammers. So bad in fact that I am doing all my Premier League discussion in paid pool thread. But that is my dilemma and problem for some other thread.

This coupled with the fact that some campaigns open, pause and then re-open again after some few weeks will really be a lot of work as it would be had to track and the comparisons/data may become inaccurate.

What OP had done so far is a superb job, I couldn't ask for anymore. Kudos.

The longevity of the campaign is a very important thing. Maybe just add the number of weeks of the campaign, but that will require a weekly update and some extra work for you only that parameter.

True, but how exactly to measure quantify quality of members, amount of posts, places where those posts are written etc? Its an impossible task imho and what OP did is the 2nd best thing.



Times where $100 per week could get you a top quality members are long gone as there's more spots in signature campaigns than there are quality members meaning even subpar posters can get into a pretty decent campaign. 

I personally will advise the manager of stake campaign Carollzinho to redesign the stake campaign. Stake is a long term campaign and they spend reasonable amount of money to promote their brand here, yet they are not seen as prestigious campaign. Many people tag their participants spammers.
With over $6,000 weekly budget of stake, they can employ more than 60 participants and make a flat rate of $100 per participants. You can make the required posts per week to be 30 and then 15 of the 30 posts should come from the gambling boards. With this method their campaign will still have obe of the highest visibility in the gambling section while maintaining sanity and some more exceptional members of the forum could join their campaign.

I have seen more than one suggestion to add the date the campaigns started. I will have to add it asap on the next edit.

Oh I must have missed that, thought Royse would update on telegram too if there was an update.