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December 18, 2017, 06:44:57 AM
Hey guys so we have added up stakes and have culled out fake accounts and will begin sending out tokens today.  In the interest of not overwhelming the outstanding tokens and because our sale did not sell out to the cap, we have to cut the bounty pool in proportion to the total number of outstanding tokens so we don't overwhelm current token holders. 

After much deliberation, it was decided that we will burn all remaining tokens below the cap since PRFT is a hodler token rather than a speculation token where holders can collect rewards from our marketplace (an update on this can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ndf3RbdZk).  This means that although the 'number' of tokens received by bounty participants has been cut.  The overall 'proportion' of tokens received is the same.  In the interest of fairness as well, we have issued the bounty tokens from the company store (Untradable) rather than the public store which means bounty participants actually have MORE of the proportion to a percentage point. 

Since the main value proposition of the token is to collect Ethereum payments by way of the token, it would be extremely unfair to purchasers during the sale to issue out the same number or tokens we had committed to initially.   

This means that the pool will be cut to 6000 tokens, however, your holding to the total number of tokens will be the same as though we sold all the public sale tokens. 

In other words, although the number of tokens you receive is lower, the actual per-unit value of the tokens is assumably higher as you will control a much higher percentage in proportion to the whole. 

The math is below

Total tokens sold:

119453

Cap:
1181031

119453 / 1181031 = .10 (AKA 10%)

The pool if the cap was reached: 60,000 PRFT

10% of 60,000 is 6000

60,000/1181031.0 = .05 (The presumed total proportion of bounty tokens if cap was reached)

6,000 / 119453 = .05

6,000/113453 = .052 (The total proportion of bounty tokens adjusted for actual tokens in circulation adjusted to amount removed from Proof's holdings)

Although we know that this is going to frustrate some people, keep in mind that despite the lower 'number' you actually control MORE of the holdings by about .2 % which will avail you to a large percentage of the marketplace activity outlined in the Proof Whitepaper.  We came to this compromise after many discussions with our advisors, team, and token holders and if you have any issues, don't hesitate to contact myself or qiwoman2 and we can work out an arrangement based on your level of participation.  We have some excellent partnerships that will be announced soon that will bring tremendous amounts of liquidity to our market when it opens Q1 next year that will immediately allow you to begin collecting rewards AS WELL as holding the value of the token itself.  Thank you for your participation and we are working diligently to make sure everyone gets their fair due. 
Fair enough but you mentioned the tokens were from the 'untradable company store',does that mean that our tokens can not be traded?And like everyone is asking can we see the spreadsheet with updated amounts due each person?
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December 18, 2017, 05:00:42 AM
Hey guys so we have added up stakes and have culled out fake accounts and will begin sending out tokens today.  In the interest of not overwhelming the outstanding tokens and because our sale did not sell out to the cap, we have to cut the bounty pool in proportion to the total number of outstanding tokens so we don't overwhelm current token holders. 

After much deliberation, it was decided that we will burn all remaining tokens below the cap since PRFT is a hodler token rather than a speculation token where holders can collect rewards from our marketplace (an update on this can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ndf3RbdZk).  This means that although the 'number' of tokens received by bounty participants has been cut.  The overall 'proportion' of tokens received is the same.  In the interest of fairness as well, we have issued the bounty tokens from the company store (Untradable) rather than the public store which means bounty participants actually have MORE of the proportion to a percentage point. 

Since the main value proposition of the token is to collect Ethereum payments by way of the token, it would be extremely unfair to purchasers during the sale to issue out the same number or tokens we had committed to initially.   

This means that the pool will be cut to 6000 tokens, however, your holding to the total number of tokens will be the same as though we sold all the public sale tokens. 

In other words, although the number of tokens you receive is lower, the actual per-unit value of the tokens is assumably higher as you will control a much higher percentage in proportion to the whole. 

The math is below

Total tokens sold:

119453

Cap:
1181031

119453 / 1181031 = .10 (AKA 10%)

The pool if the cap was reached: 60,000 PRFT

10% of 60,000 is 6000

60,000/1181031.0 = .05 (The presumed total proportion of bounty tokens if cap was reached)

6,000 / 119453 = .05

6,000/113453 = .052 (The total proportion of bounty tokens adjusted for actual tokens in circulation adjusted to amount removed from Proof's holdings)

Although we know that this is going to frustrate some people, keep in mind that despite the lower 'number' you actually control MORE of the holdings by about .2 % which will avail you to a large percentage of the marketplace activity outlined in the Proof Whitepaper.  We came to this compromise after many discussions with our advisors, team, and token holders and if you have any issues, don't hesitate to contact myself or qiwoman2 and we can work out an arrangement based on your level of participation.  We have some excellent partnerships that will be announced soon that will bring tremendous amounts of liquidity to our market when it opens Q1 next year that will immediately allow you to begin collecting rewards AS WELL as holding the value of the token itself.  Thank you for your participation and we are working diligently to make sure everyone gets their fair due. 

It is a bold decision the managers have made. We hope that your decision will yield better results than we expected from the higher number of tokens. Everything still seems the same to me except for the one missing zero.
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December 18, 2017, 03:32:40 AM
Hey guys so we have added up stakes and have culled out fake accounts and will begin sending out tokens today.  In the interest of not overwhelming the outstanding tokens and because our sale did not sell out to the cap, we have to cut the bounty pool in proportion to the total number of outstanding tokens so we don't overwhelm current token holders.  

After much deliberation, it was decided that we will burn all remaining tokens below the cap since PRFT is a hodler token rather than a speculation token where holders can collect rewards from our marketplace (an update on this can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ndf3RbdZk).  This means that although the 'number' of tokens received by bounty participants has been cut.  The overall 'proportion' of tokens received is the same.  In the interest of fairness as well, we have issued the bounty tokens from the company store (Untradable) rather than the public store which means bounty participants actually have MORE of the proportion to a percentage point.  

Since the main value proposition of the token is to collect Ethereum payments by way of the token, it would be extremely unfair to purchasers during the sale to issue out the same number or tokens we had committed to initially.    

This means that the pool will be cut to 6000 tokens, however, your holding to the total number of tokens will be the same as though we sold all the public sale tokens.  

In other words, although the number of tokens you receive is lower, the actual per-unit value of the tokens is assumably higher as you will control a much higher percentage in proportion to the whole.  

The math is below

Total tokens sold:

119453

Cap:
1181031

119453 / 1181031 = .10 (AKA 10%)

The pool if the cap was reached: 60,000 PRFT

10% of 60,000 is 6000

60,000/1181031.0 = .05 (The presumed total proportion of bounty tokens if cap was reached)

6,000 / 119453 = .05

6,000/113453 = .052 (The total proportion of bounty tokens adjusted for actual tokens in circulation adjusted to amount removed from Proof's holdings)

Although we know that this is going to frustrate some people, keep in mind that despite the lower 'number' you actually control MORE of the holdings by about .2 % which will avail you to a large percentage of the marketplace activity outlined in the Proof Whitepaper.  We came to this compromise after many discussions with our advisors, team, and token holders and if you have any issues, don't hesitate to contact myself or qiwoman2 and we can work out an arrangement based on your level of participation.  We have some excellent partnerships that will be announced soon that will bring tremendous amounts of liquidity to our market when it opens Q1 next year that will immediately allow you to begin collecting rewards AS WELL as holding the value of the token itself.  Thank you for your participation and we are working diligently to make sure everyone gets their fair due.  
Can we see final spreadsheets?
Did you cut off a part which is for devs? Or you cut off only bounty pool?
I understand your position. And it's right, but when I entered in the campaign, I had seen how many tokens were available per every campaign. And now you decrease my reward in 10 times.
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December 18, 2017, 02:17:44 AM
Hey guys so we have added up stakes and have culled out fake accounts and will begin sending out tokens today.  In the interest of not overwhelming the outstanding tokens and because our sale did not sell out to the cap, we have to cut the bounty pool in proportion to the total number of outstanding tokens so we don't overwhelm current token holders. 

After much deliberation, it was decided that we will burn all remaining tokens below the cap since PRFT is a hodler token rather than a speculation token where holders can collect rewards from our marketplace (an update on this can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ndf3RbdZk).  This means that although the 'number' of tokens received by bounty participants has been cut.  The overall 'proportion' of tokens received is the same.  In the interest of fairness as well, we have issued the bounty tokens from the company store (Untradable) rather than the public store which means bounty participants actually have MORE of the proportion to a percentage point. 

Since the main value proposition of the token is to collect Ethereum payments by way of the token, it would be extremely unfair to purchasers during the sale to issue out the same number or tokens we had committed to initially.   

This means that the pool will be cut to 6000 tokens, however, your holding to the total number of tokens will be the same as though we sold all the public sale tokens. 

In other words, although the number of tokens you receive is lower, the actual per-unit value of the tokens is assumably higher as you will control a much higher percentage in proportion to the whole. 

The math is below

Total tokens sold:

119453

Cap:
1181031

119453 / 1181031 = .10 (AKA 10%)

The pool if the cap was reached: 60,000 PRFT

10% of 60,000 is 6000

60,000/1181031.0 = .05 (The presumed total proportion of bounty tokens if cap was reached)

6,000 / 119453 = .05

6,000/113453 = .052 (The total proportion of bounty tokens adjusted for actual tokens in circulation adjusted to amount removed from Proof's holdings)

Although we know that this is going to frustrate some people, keep in mind that despite the lower 'number' you actually control MORE of the holdings by about .2 % which will avail you to a large percentage of the marketplace activity outlined in the Proof Whitepaper.  We came to this compromise after many discussions with our advisors, team, and token holders and if you have any issues, don't hesitate to contact myself or qiwoman2 and we can work out an arrangement based on your level of participation.  We have some excellent partnerships that will be announced soon that will bring tremendous amounts of liquidity to our market when it opens Q1 next year that will immediately allow you to begin collecting rewards AS WELL as holding the value of the token itself.  Thank you for your participation and we are working diligently to make sure everyone gets their fair due. 
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December 17, 2017, 03:05:45 PM
no one knows that how much tokens we got and you are going to distribute them tomorrow. sis dont you think that you should tell us how much tokens we got?
I have been asking same question.At least we know how much was allocated to each bounty but until the manager calcultaes each person's amount we can't be confident the process willbe fair.Same happened with change and centra bounties and several other bounties.This shouldn't happen with proof
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December 17, 2017, 04:15:53 AM
no one knows that how much tokens we got and you are going to distribute them tomorrow. sis dont you think that you should tell us how much tokens we got?
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December 16, 2017, 06:43:08 PM
Do you count bitcointalk posts per week or the whole ICO for the signature bounty?
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December 16, 2017, 06:32:00 PM
Well, spreadsheet still without counting my missing weeks!! please tell when that will happen. info of missing weeks sent already multiple times! Don't think there is need to send them again. Thanks!
legendary
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Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
December 15, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
I participated in your campaign bounty facebook, in the spreadshet are number 11, I checked my situation but missing the score for my last week of work, week 25/11 that I sent on the thread on November 24 as you can see from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2116986.720 Can you kindly check and credit me the score for week 25/11?
Bounty manager, I understand that you are very busy but I kindly ask you to remember to fix my situation, thank you!

done
legendary
Activity: 2114
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Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
December 15, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
Hello EVERYONE CAN YOU KINDLY CALM DOWN AND NOT PANIC. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF MOVING HOUSE AND BEEN BUSY PACKING. I AM MOVING TO A NEW PLACE ON SUNDAY. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY PMS AND CHECK ANY MISSING ITEMS. I HOPE YOU CAN ALL BE A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENT A COUPLE OF DAYS WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO BE AS ATTENTIVE AS POSSIBLE IN THIS CAMPAIGN., THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I HAVE MANAGED A BOUNTY SO PLEASE KINDLY BE PATIENT AND NOT PANIC BECAUSE I DO NOT IMMEDIATELY RESPOND IN FEW HOURS TO YOUR REQUESTS. I AM MOVING HOUSE AND HAD TO PACK MY WHOLE HOME IN LESS THAN A WEEK. I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND DO NOT WANT TO BREAK DOWN. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY MISSING ITEMS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENCE.
Hi man!
Please check PM from me. I asked you to change my ETH address.
Thanks!  Wink

I am going through as much as I can tonight and tomorrow..will change it now.
legendary
Activity: 2114
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December 15, 2017, 03:21:42 PM
hi manager i joined to fb and twitter campaign from begin of campaign retwitted all tweets and now i cant even find mycelf in spreadsheet Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

I will check this out tomorrow, although usually in campaigns people with negative trust are not allowed to participate, but I will be lenient in this case and check it out and give you a chance. Let me check tomorrow the spreadsheet but you will need to send me an account of your tweets if I can't find them I will pm you tomorrow o.k?
sr. member
Activity: 644
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December 15, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
Hello EVERYONE CAN YOU KINDLY CALM DOWN AND NOT PANIC. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF MOVING HOUSE AND BEEN BUSY PACKING. I AM MOVING TO A NEW PLACE ON SUNDAY. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY PMS AND CHECK ANY MISSING ITEMS. I HOPE YOU CAN ALL BE A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENT A COUPLE OF DAYS WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO BE AS ATTENTIVE AS POSSIBLE IN THIS CAMPAIGN., THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I HAVE MANAGED A BOUNTY SO PLEASE KINDLY BE PATIENT AND NOT PANIC BECAUSE I DO NOT IMMEDIATELY RESPOND IN FEW HOURS TO YOUR REQUESTS. I AM MOVING HOUSE AND HAD TO PACK MY WHOLE HOME IN LESS THAN A WEEK. I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND DO NOT WANT TO BREAK DOWN. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY MISSING ITEMS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENCE.
Hi man!
Please check PM from me. I asked you to change my ETH address.
Thanks!  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2114
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December 15, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
Good luck with your move Qiwoman, it is one of life's stressful events so hope it goes well for you. Also good to hear that distribution will start next week as a nice Christmas bonus.

Thanks for all your hard work

Thanks for being so kind and understanding, much appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 2114
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Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
December 15, 2017, 03:05:10 PM
Hello EVERYONE CAN YOU KINDLY CALM DOWN AND NOT PANIC. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF MOVING HOUSE AND BEEN BUSY PACKING. I AM MOVING TO A NEW PLACE ON SUNDAY. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY PMS AND CHECK ANY MISSING ITEMS. I HOPE YOU CAN ALL BE A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENT A COUPLE OF DAYS WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO BE AS ATTENTIVE AS POSSIBLE IN THIS CAMPAIGN., THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I HAVE MANAGED A BOUNTY SO PLEASE KINDLY BE PATIENT AND NOT PANIC BECAUSE I DO NOT IMMEDIATELY RESPOND IN FEW HOURS TO YOUR REQUESTS. I AM MOVING HOUSE AND HAD TO PACK MY WHOLE HOME IN LESS THAN A WEEK. I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND DO NOT WANT TO BREAK DOWN. TOMORROW I WILL ATTEND TO ANY MISSING ITEMS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENCE.
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December 13, 2017, 12:03:07 PM
Good luck with your move Qiwoman, it is one of life's stressful events so hope it goes well for you. Also good to hear that distribution will start next week as a nice Christmas bonus.

Thanks for all your hard work
sr. member
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December 13, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
Hi Campaign manager,Any news from the team about the date of distribution of the bounty tokens?

I am waiting from the TEAM, shouldn't be long, they are still calculating everything etc. I am in the middle of moving house as well but am keeping an eye on everything at the same time while packing all our stuff.  Grin I will also sort out any errors, additions  for the few of you that sent me info. I will do that tonight.  Wink

EDIT JUST SPOKE WITH PROOF TEAM, WE WILL COMMENCE PAYOUTS IN BATCHES STARTING NEXT MONDAY..

Gives us time to correct any errors, additions and cross/double check all submissions..
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.



good job than you for the news
sr. member
Activity: 644
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December 13, 2017, 02:33:58 AM
Hi Campaign manager,Any news from the team about the date of distribution of the bounty tokens?

I am waiting from the TEAM, shouldn't be long, they are still calculating everything etc. I am in the middle of moving house as well but am keeping an eye on everything at the same time while packing all our stuff.  Grin I will also sort out any errors, additions  for the few of you that sent me info. I will do that tonight.  Wink

EDIT JUST SPOKE WITH PROOF TEAM, WE WILL COMMENCE PAYOUTS IN BATCHES STARTING NEXT MONDAY..

Gives us time to correct any errors, additions and cross/double check all submissions..
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.



we will be very happy if we could know how many tokens we are getting before the distribution starts? for instance 1 stake= 10 tokens or something of that kind.
Do not be too lazy. Check a spreadsheet and calculate that yourself. There is information about rewards in OP

it is not about laziness, how many times did people have to contact the manager for corrections on their stakes? It is better if the team does the calculation of tokens and makes it public before distribution. That way we can help them rectify any mistakes on time if any.
The team will not update your stakes. It can make only BM. Now, you see your stakes and you know how many tokens were allocated for each campaign. So you can calculate your reward. Your reward depends on your stakes.
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December 13, 2017, 01:07:30 AM
Hi Campaign manager,Any news from the team about the date of distribution of the bounty tokens?

I am waiting from the TEAM, shouldn't be long, they are still calculating everything etc. I am in the middle of moving house as well but am keeping an eye on everything at the same time while packing all our stuff.  Grin I will also sort out any errors, additions  for the few of you that sent me info. I will do that tonight.  Wink

EDIT JUST SPOKE WITH PROOF TEAM, WE WILL COMMENCE PAYOUTS IN BATCHES STARTING NEXT MONDAY..

Gives us time to correct any errors, additions and cross/double check all submissions..
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.



we will be very happy if we could know how many tokens we are getting before the distribution starts? for instance 1 stake= 10 tokens or something of that kind.
Do not be too lazy. Check a spreadsheet and calculate that yourself. There is information about rewards in OP

it is not about laziness, how many times did people have to contact the manager for corrections on their stakes? It is better if the team does the calculation of tokens and makes it public before distribution. That way we can help them rectify any mistakes on time if any.
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 250
December 13, 2017, 12:13:36 AM
Hi Campaign manager,Any news from the team about the date of distribution of the bounty tokens?

I am waiting from the TEAM, shouldn't be long, they are still calculating everything etc. I am in the middle of moving house as well but am keeping an eye on everything at the same time while packing all our stuff.  Grin I will also sort out any errors, additions  for the few of you that sent me info. I will do that tonight.  Wink

EDIT JUST SPOKE WITH PROOF TEAM, WE WILL COMMENCE PAYOUTS IN BATCHES STARTING NEXT MONDAY..

Gives us time to correct any errors, additions and cross/double check all submissions..
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.



we will be very happy if we could know how many tokens we are getting before the distribution starts? for instance 1 stake= 10 tokens or something of that kind.
Do not be too lazy. Check a spreadsheet and calculate that yourself. There is information about rewards in OP
full member
Activity: 854
Merit: 100
December 12, 2017, 07:01:16 PM
Hi Campaign manager,Any news from the team about the date of distribution of the bounty tokens?

I am waiting from the TEAM, shouldn't be long, they are still calculating everything etc. I am in the middle of moving house as well but am keeping an eye on everything at the same time while packing all our stuff.  Grin I will also sort out any errors, additions  for the few of you that sent me info. I will do that tonight.  Wink

EDIT JUST SPOKE WITH PROOF TEAM, WE WILL COMMENCE PAYOUTS IN BATCHES STARTING NEXT MONDAY..

Gives us time to correct any errors, additions and cross/double check all submissions..
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.



we will be very happy if we could know how many tokens we are getting before the distribution starts? for instance 1 stake= 10 tokens or something of that kind.
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