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Topic: PROOF that GAWMiners Hashlet Is Not A Miner (Read 10265 times)

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October 08, 2014, 10:17:35 AM
#69
Well zen payouts are 10 x better than genises and even my own miners..

If anything, that indicates something fishy is going on...what could they POSSIBLY be mining that gives those returns???
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Man what can gaw prove to say they have a data centre, dont worry fudders most of you are safe as zombies only eat people with brains. Well zen payouts are 10 x better than genises and even my own miners..I have a small private pool and ye zen gives me the best roi in the last 2 months running...Genises is the worst the other cloud hashers ye they are also  safe from zombies.I do better with my mining pool and miners than genises.mining. All I hope is that hashlets can keep it up, for other things there is viagra
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Small Red and Bad
At current rates for BTC and the dismal scrypt multipool profitability of late, I am pretty certain they are going to win their bet.


Want to bet on that?

Their hash power is backed by hardware is a proven fact, they just don't want to reveal what the hardware is used for, thus the TOS.
They've been paying the returns for a few months already and are planning to continue, despite the curent Bitcoin crysis.
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My pet theory is that Gaw has done the math and believe that Hashlets will not ROI. Perhaps, like a good Ponzi, the early purchasers will ROI, but later purchasers will not. This does not require any fraud on the part of Gaw--they have clearly written the TOS so that these don't have to be mining gear in any sense of the definition. As long as they pay you the returns that the pool would provide, they are not required to have anything backing the hashrate they sold you.

At current rates for BTC and the dismal scrypt multipool profitability of late, I am pretty certain they are going to win their bet.
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Mining til I puke
September 28, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
#65
Here's an idea: buy some hashlets and judge for yourself. I have been pretty happy with the ROI on my current "miners" and have even thrown in some of the Genesis hashlets to sweeten the pot. 24 hour payout results from day before yesterday were one amount - after the addition of the Genesis hashlets it went down. Now I am starting to wonder myself exactly what's going on here.

GAW has not been completely transparent about what all this is about in the first place. If you look at the hashlet offering as a whole, it is nothing but a whole lot of really good sales copy. Very few details on the "what" and the "how". I was intrigued, had a bit of extra cash, and hopped on the train - primarily just to see how it would perform. Like I said, so far it has been ok until I threw those Genesis hashlets in. Time will indeed tell. I'll report back at the end of the week and fill you guys and gals in on the results.

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September 12, 2014, 02:47:23 PM
#64
Thank you for contacting Turing Stations AS., my name is Aaron and I'm
happy to meet you.
I'm sorry but we do not recommend buying this product by bank transfer as
this product will go out of stock in the following days and transfers
usually take around 5 to 12 days. You can make the transfer but I can not
guarantee that your transfer will be confirmed in time. You may receive
the product in our second batch in November. Please try to use one of our
other instant payment methods to make sure you are getting your product
now. Once products have a 0 stock, the product page will change to Out of
Stock and you will no longer have the ability to use the payment system.
(28.aug
Yes, it is possible to purchase our products with a credit card but special
rules apply to this kind of payment as we are very careful regarding this
kind of payment.

Our products have a high price range and there is a high risk of fraud
(chargebacks) when accepting payments with credit cards.

We have no choice but to require a list of documents to confirm your
ownership of the credit card:

- Photo of ID or Passport

- Photo of any utility bill (from the last 3 months max). The name
must be the same as the one written on the credit card.

- Photo of credit card

All photos must be clear and in high definition!

Please confirm your acceptance of this terms. If you accept, a sales person
from Turing Stations AS. will contact you with further instructions.

If possible, we recommend using one of our faster payment options with
immediate confirmation. There is a risk the product will go out of stock
before we confirm your documents.
(29.aug

Thank you for providing these details but our sales team has rejected your
request. Sincerely, I think your documents are valid but we have been the
target of a lot of fraud attempts in the past days, it is very
problematic. Your documents have been deleted from our servers and will
not be kept or used in any way.

I am very sorry we could not authorize you to pay with a credit card for
our products. Please do not hesitate to contact me for any other details.
(3.9)

I apologize again for having to reject your request but there is really
nothing I can do, please understand.
I am very certain you will not be able to secure a unit if you pay by bank
transfer but we do not force anyone to pay using our more simple payment
methods but I strongly advise you to use Bitcoins to purchase the Atlantis
or any other miner in stock as this will provide you immediate
confirmation. Bank transfers are usually used by wholesale customers who
purchased our products in large quantities.
(3.9)
I tried asking sales department about a reason but they did not supply me
with one. As far as I know, a lot of people have been trying exploit our
payment system and we are rejecting this form of payment for new
customers.
I am so sorry Sir I can not help you to complete your order, I tried
everything but it is impossible for me to open a payment interface for
you.
(3.9)

100%Scam you will find more info in talk

like escrow site and Turing Stations same people
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 11:26:22 PM
#63
Wait Wait.. your talking about turning's... the amazing out of nowhere company that on the testimonal page has 2 "different" customers who have units with the exact same review? 

This thing has been great out of the box. I'm using the software I downloaded from Turing Stations.

Yeah.. I see 2 "customers" saying the exact same thing with the exact same capitalization and punctation.

I'll Sell you a custom built 8Thash btc miner and 900 MHS scrypt miner with the exact same power consumption, for the exact same price.   Feel free to send me the btc!
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 10:50:49 PM
#62
You know why GAW is pushing hashlets so hard the last ~month?.... its because of these... https://turingstations.com/  "550MH/s – $4,899 ..Power Consumption: 1100-1200 Watt"  when these hit the network 1 mh isnt going to roi in 2 months.

... gaw miners 550MH... $11,000 when from turing you can get it for $4,900.


edit...not to meantion  at 550MH youre paying 8cents each per day... paying them 44$ a day ( for "maintenance"). dont get got friend... at 1200watts IF your KW/h was $.20 (very high)... it would only cost 6 dollers a day to run. thieves.

Oh yay another preorder machine? When KNC delivery theirs? Or did they fail to deliver too?

  I think support to ship first batch orders out around 2 weeks and no one know if ship will shipping out to the sea.
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DeFixy.com - The future of Decentralization
September 07, 2014, 10:34:48 PM
#61
I knew 'bout that.
Hashlet is like the other cloud mining, I don't care if it's virtual miner or what.
As long as It can make profit I like it Grin
newbie
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September 07, 2014, 10:34:40 PM
#60
You know why GAW is pushing hashlets so hard the last ~month?.... its because of these... https://turingstations.com/  "550MH/s – $4,899 ..Power Consumption: 1100-1200 Watt"  when these hit the network 1 mh isnt going to roi in 2 months.

... gaw miners 550MH... $11,000 when from turing you can get it for $4,900.


edit...not to meantion  at 550MH youre paying 8cents each per day... paying them 44$ a day ( for "maintenance"). dont get got friend... at 1200watts IF your KW/h was $.20 (very high)... it would only cost 6 dollers a day to run. thieves.

Oh yay another preorder machine? When KNC delivery theirs? Or did they fail to deliver too?
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Small Red and Bad
September 07, 2014, 01:15:31 PM
#59
I've seen some people wondering about the whole payment process.
Here's a link to an explanation: https://hashtalk.org/topic/3349/explanation-when-do-i-get-a-payout
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 07, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
#58
strange stuff going on here

I only own 15 mhs of Zen Hashlets. That being said, I find it frustrating that they say that I have been paid out hours ago yet it is not in my BTC Balance. Sure it may show it in my Latest Activity and Balance but it is misleading to say that they have paid out when it is not in my BTC balance at the top of the page. Don't fucking tell me I am paid out unless I can withdraw it to multibit.

Just don't check til later afternoon then. It's daily that balance comes later than payouts. I think it runs Everyone's payout before updating balances.
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2local[IEO] - https://2local.io/
September 07, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
#57
strange stuff going on here

I only own 15 mhs of Zen Hashlets. That being said, I find it frustrating that they say that I have been paid out hours ago yet it is not in my BTC Balance. Sure it may show it in my Latest Activity and Balance but it is misleading to say that they have paid out when it is not in my BTC balance at the top of the page. Don't fucking tell me I am paid out unless I can withdraw it to multibit.
i have the same issue Sad
much sadness Sad
legendary
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Merit: 1019
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September 07, 2014, 09:48:17 AM
#56
strange stuff going on here

I only own 15 mhs of Zen Hashlets. That being said, I find it frustrating that they say that I have been paid out hours ago yet it is not in my BTC Balance. Sure it may show it in my Latest Activity and Balance but it is misleading to say that they have paid out when it is not in my BTC balance at the top of the page. Don't fucking tell me I am paid out unless I can withdraw it to multibit.
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 07, 2014, 08:14:13 AM
#55
The Genesis isn't worth the investment at all, but the Primes and the Zen solo's are!

I think the Genesis is, especially if they roll out ZenPool for Sha. Imagine those number. I don't think prices will rise on them though since right now they are forcing Cex/similar sites to rethink their selling....especially with timed contracts.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
to your stations, man the pineapples!!!
September 07, 2014, 08:12:21 AM
#54
It could just be that they developed super large rigs that have a LOT of mining power behind them. Then they essentially are selling us shares of the miner and thus we get a share of its income, thus providing the BTC investment that they would need to produce and run the miners.

that's what i assume.

>>//

if they do have very profitable pools,
the budget end of 1mh/s would only equal maybe 50% of 1mh/s for luxury models

so they could sell twice as many hash as they have of the budget version.
legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
September 07, 2014, 03:37:09 AM
#53
It could just be that they developed super large rigs that have a LOT of mining power behind them. Then they essentially are selling us shares of the miner and thus we get a share of its income, thus providing the BTC investment that they would need to produce and run the miners.
hero member
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September 06, 2014, 12:19:19 PM
#52
The Genesis isn't worth the investment at all, but the Primes and the Zen solo's are!
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2local[IEO] - https://2local.io/
September 06, 2014, 10:59:12 AM
#51
i am hearing all this after i have invested about 50 dollars in this... but don't you keep the hashlets for an eternity and a half, so should you eventually break even and then get some extra coins to spend  Tongue Shocked Huh... eventually you will earn some bitcoins as actual profit 


Yes your buying a life contract with decreasing fees so it's kept profitable. You can also sell your hashlets using marketplace section on hashtalk.org. There are great threads with hashlet ROI tracking on this forum.

i think its a worth while long term investment.. but i am just a newb  Tongue Embarrassed Cheesy Grin
sr. member
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September 06, 2014, 07:07:13 AM
#50
i am hearing all this after i have invested about 50 dollars in this... but don't you keep the hashlets for an eternity and a half, so should you eventually break even and then get some extra coins to spend  Tongue Shocked Huh... eventually you will earn some bitcoins as actual profit 


Yes your buying a life contract with decreasing fees so it's kept profitable. You can also sell your hashlets using marketplace section on hashtalk.org. There are great threads with hashlet ROI tracking on this forum.
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