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February 10, 2016, 01:38:42 PM
If god doesn't exist, then where do you think you will go after you will die? heaven or hell?  Who created everything then? who is controlling all the things that are happening?

Why all the thimgs written in holy books are true? The scientists are provimg the facts that are written in the holy books thousands of years ago...

How is it possible without god?Huh

everything can be explained with science without any help of religions and god ..

Let's be honest, not everything. Not the creation of the universe because as human we can't imagine something without the principle of cause and consequences so once we reach the Big Bang we don't know what to do after (or before xD).

But god isn't better. It's just that religious say "ah no it's ok god is out of the cause consequence theory so it works" but no it doesn't. What created God?
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February 10, 2016, 01:35:48 PM

Model airplanes fly quite well. But they really aren't often practical for anything. Same with Big Bang models.

The part that is being left out of Big Bang is the intelligence. Because of universal entropy, everything reduces in complexity. Whatever could produce the complexity of the intelligence of man, especially over billions of years of cause and effect, and cause an orderly universe at the same time, must have been intelligent way beyond understanding. Start applying intelligence to the Big Bang, and you will be getting close to what the Creator is like in some ways.

Of course, Big Bang is just theory. Cause and effect have been proven to exist.

Smiley

Damn you really never had any kind of physics courses did you?

ENTROPY =/= COMPLEXITY

Please at least learn that! There is NO correlation between complexity and entropy! Those both elements are NOT linked. You can have a reduction of entropy with an increase of complexity!!!
Entropy is linked to order and order ONLY! Which means that CHAOS is linked to entropy, the bigger the chaos the bigger the entropy BUT THAT'S ALL!!!

Please stop using science you DO NOT understand ><
sr. member
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February 10, 2016, 01:18:52 PM
If god doesn't exist, then where do you think you will go after you will die? heaven or hell?  Who created everything then? who is controlling all the things that are happening?

Why all the thimgs written in holy books are true? The scientists are provimg the facts that are written in the holy books thousands of years ago...

How is it possible without god?Huh

everything can be explained with science without any help of religions and god ..
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 12:15:53 PM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy

It's you. It's you because you are unwilling to look at the explanations that I give in my previous posts. Since you won't look at those explanations, why should I waste my time re-posting something that you are not going to look at anyway?

Smiley

I did. Your explanation is that God programmed evolution. I give you another explanation more logical and based on facts. You still chose God. What can I do more?

Then go look up Newton's 3rd Law, action and reaction, which explains cause and effect. Since there is nothing that exists for some other reason than that it was caused, it was programmed by whatever caused it. And the cause was programmed by some other cause, etc., all the way back to the beginning. This is standard science law.

Smiley

It's not what Newton 3rd law says but anyway I get your point.
And so what? You say your beginning is God no? Well my beginning is the BigBang. What is your proof of god in that? It's just a theory nothing more. Except that BigBang has numerous models showing it!

Model airplanes fly quite well. But they really aren't often practical for anything. Same with Big Bang models.

The part that is being left out of Big Bang is the intelligence. Because of universal entropy, everything reduces in complexity. Whatever could produce the complexity of the intelligence of man, especially over billions of years of cause and effect, and cause an orderly universe at the same time, must have been intelligent way beyond understanding. Start applying intelligence to the Big Bang, and you will be getting close to what the Creator is like in some ways.

Of course, Big Bang is just theory. Cause and effect have been proven to exist.

Smiley
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February 10, 2016, 12:09:54 PM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy

It's you. It's you because you are unwilling to look at the explanations that I give in my previous posts. Since you won't look at those explanations, why should I waste my time re-posting something that you are not going to look at anyway?

Smiley

I did. Your explanation is that God programmed evolution. I give you another explanation more logical and based on facts. You still chose God. What can I do more?

Then go look up Newton's 3rd Law, action and reaction, which explains cause and effect. Since there is nothing that exists for some other reason than that it was caused, it was programmed by whatever caused it. And the cause was programmed by some other cause, etc., all the way back to the beginning. This is standard science law.

Smiley

It's not what Newton 3rd law says but anyway I get your point.
And so what? You say your beginning is God no? Well my beginning is the BigBang. What is your proof of god in that? It's just a theory nothing more. Except that BigBang has numerous models showing it!
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 12:03:59 PM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy

It's you. It's you because you are unwilling to look at the explanations that I give in my previous posts. Since you won't look at those explanations, why should I waste my time re-posting something that you are not going to look at anyway?

Smiley

I did. Your explanation is that God programmed evolution. I give you another explanation more logical and based on facts. You still chose God. What can I do more?

Then go look up Newton's 3rd Law, action and reaction, which explains cause and effect. Since there is nothing that exists for some other reason than that it was caused, it was programmed by whatever caused it. And the cause was programmed by some other cause, etc., all the way back to the beginning. This is standard science law.

Smiley
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February 10, 2016, 12:00:34 PM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy

It's you. It's you because you are unwilling to look at the explanations that I give in my previous posts. Since you won't look at those explanations, why should I waste my time re-posting something that you are not going to look at anyway?

Smiley

I did. Your explanation is that God programmed evolution. I give you another explanation more logical and based on facts. You still chose God. What can I do more?
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 11:50:13 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy

It's you. It's you because you are unwilling to look at the explanations that I give in my previous posts. Since you won't look at those explanations, why should I waste my time re-posting something that you are not going to look at anyway?

Smiley
sr. member
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February 10, 2016, 11:47:05 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley

Is it me or you didn't reply to my post because you don't want to admit that natural selection is a better explanation of evolution than "God programmed everything"? Cheesy
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 02:16:58 AM
The proof of God's existence is everywhere.All you need is ponder over how everything play its role in perfect way.It weren't possible without someone controlling them

This is an argument from ignorance. 

If you don't understand something, try to figure out how it works, not to say "God must have created it because it is too complex".

Earth was not created 6000 years ago.  Evolutionary processes took a very long time to achieve the life complexity we observe today.

If Earth was created 6000 years ago, then yes, it would not make sense for such complexity to come about in just few thousand years.

But the fact is, Earth is about 4543000000 years old (+/- 50000000)


Except that you don't know this, because scientists have miscalculated universe age by billions of years.

Evolutionary process is simply programming. Cause and effect dictates that it absolutely is this way.

Smiley

So now God gets a credit for the evolution?  If he is responsible, how come Bible (word of God Smiley ) is not mentioning it.  I guess he forgot to put that in.

No point to argue with you guys.  You will believe in God no matter what.  You will be adapting your religion soon.
Neuroscientists are very close to mapping of human brain and extending it in silicon.  You should plan what you are going to do once scientists prove that there is no soul.  But I'm sure you'll come up with some story to cover up the hole. 

Maybe you can twist some quotes from your holy books.  Get cracking...

Anyway when you come down to Earth, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQm6N60bneo
 
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 11:35:53 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?

Actually, it is double proof. It is proof that God exists, and it is proof that you can't even recognize proof when it stares you in the face.

Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 392
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February 10, 2016, 11:32:24 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley

Because what you said above is no proof of anything...

All that they prove is that there is a consequence to each cause that's all.
The causes of evolution have NOTHING to do with God. The laws of evolution are rather simple:
Each form of life will get random mutations. If a mutation is good for the specie, the element will reproduce better and thus spread this mutation. Which is how evolution works: natural selection of the best random mutation.

Where is the proof of your god in it?
legendary
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February 09, 2016, 11:35:00 PM
No circular logic. God is different. How do we know? Because He made the universe. He is not the universe making Himself.

Cause and effect is what we understand. We barely understand the concept of effect without cause. Sure, we can say the words. But nobody really understands what they mean this way.

Smiley

It does not matter, even if he was outside of universe, he still has to have a cause.  According to your logic.
Every effect has a cause.  If he exists he must have a cause.  Your own logic.

Unless of course you make exception in God's case.  LOL.  If you do, why bother with any logic.  You can always short-circuit any reasoning with
convenient (unproven) exceptions, Bible, Holy Quran etc.

I think guys like you don't need any proof God exist to believe in him/her/it.  That is the difference between folks like you and the rest of people who use logic and reasoning.




There is no reason for something outside the universe to act according to laws inside the universe. And there is even less reason if the Thing is God.

The evidence for this is that we can't even think of what outside of the universe means, because the word "universe" means everything that exists. If there is something outside the universe, there is no way to think anything about its nature. The only way we might have understanding about it is, if it interjects some of the knowledge about itself into our universe.

Any interjected knowledge would be in symbolism form, because if it matched the stuff of this universe, then it would be part of this universe. Because of this, God, being outside the universe, absolutely cannot have a cause that He is the effect of.

Smiley

ok.  So basically he is imaginary.  Thanks for the clarification.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 11:14:46 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.

Wow! This joker can't even look at the post directly above his post. And he thinks that he can even suggest that my claims are wrong?

Folks, there is only one science that proves that God does not exist. It is the same one that proves that evolution exists. Which science is that? Political science.

Political science says that the person or people that can yack the hardest and loudest for the longest time are right, even when they are wrong.

There are a lot more of you yackers who say nothing, than there are of me who uses the laws of science.

Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
February 10, 2016, 11:06:25 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Yes you have. Multiple times.
Your claim is wrong in so many ways it hurts me. But you refuse to understand.
Please expose your "arguments" so we can destroy them in an entertaining way.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
February 09, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
No circular logic. God is different. How do we know? Because He made the universe. He is not the universe making Himself.

Cause and effect is what we understand. We barely understand the concept of effect without cause. Sure, we can say the words. But nobody really understands what they mean this way.

Smiley

It does not matter, even if he was outside of universe, he still has to have a cause.  According to your logic.
Every effect has a cause.  If he exists he must have a cause.  Your own logic.

Unless of course you make exception in God's case.  LOL.  If you do, why bother with any logic.  You can always short-circuit any reasoning with
convenient (unproven) exceptions, Bible, Holy Quran etc.

I think guys like you don't need any proof God exist to believe in him/her/it.  That is the difference between folks like you and the rest of people who use logic and reasoning.


legendary
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February 10, 2016, 11:05:27 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley

Oh, prove (not just say) that evolution was programmed by God.

Go.

Since I have done it over and over in this thread and others, I am not going to go into great detail again. However, I will show it to you again, so that you can go out and prove it to yourself if you want.

Three laws are:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

When you combine these three laws, they show that God exists, by the definitions of the word "God."

The law of cause and effect shows that there is no random... that everything is caused by something else. Thus, evolution (whatever it may be) was and is being caused by something, even in all of its most minute parts. That is what programming is.

So, now we not only have programming, but we have programming by God.

Smiley
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 10:20:38 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Well from what I saw on previous thread, he THINKS he know but he doesn't ^^

I haven't found anyone who can use real science to refute the things that I have been saying.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 10, 2016, 10:19:21 AM

Absolutely. This consideration proves to not be a consideration when examined in the light of science.

Smiley

Wow, seems you got to teach me some science then...

The guy knows what the word entropy means, so watch out  Roll Eyes

Now if only you could learn it, and learn how to apply it, so that you could understand that God exists.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
February 09, 2016, 07:44:46 PM
...
Evolutionary process is simply programming. Cause and effect dictates that it absolutely is this way.

Smiley

LOL.  Programming eh?

Let me guess, and God is the programmer?

"Simply programming", just like that.  God did it, no need to study it, right?

Where is God's Nobel Price?

You got it, man. God is the programmer. But look at the science without looking in the God direction for a moment...

How ever the things of the so-called evolution came into being, it was through cause and effect. After all, everything is produced by one or more other things causing it to happen - EVERYTHING. Science has not found something that happened without something else causing it to happen. Another name for this is "programming."

Smiley

So your proof is:  Because there is a cause, there must be a 'causee' or God that caused it.

This is circular logic.  If everything has a cause, what caused God to exist?  You getting nowhere fast.
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