Maybe I should try religion next. I could start a discussion about Wicca, I think we may have a few secret adepts here.
Topic: Propaganda and political operatives in PS sub - page 2. (Read 657 times)
I tried to introduce sex into my coffee lounge thread, but people seem to prefer politics.
Maybe I should try religion next. I could start a discussion about Wicca, I think we may have a few secret adepts here.
Maybe I should try religion next. I could start a discussion about Wicca, I think we may have a few secret adepts here.
It is believed that in 1918 US Senator Hiram Warren Johnson stated that the first casualty of war is truth, so with which "truth" should we arm ourselves?
It's obvious that the US is heavily propagandizing for Guaidó, and other governments (Russia?) are heavily propagandizing for Maduro. Neither side is good, though you might argue that one or the other is a lesser evil. I think that bitcointalk.org P&S is too small to have direct political operatives, but people are repeating the propaganda they've taken to heart.
Anyway, fight propaganda with truth. The current situation is far from requiring any extra mod action.
Anyway, fight propaganda with truth. The current situation is far from requiring any extra mod action.
The problem with the politics board is that most posters believe the government propaganda, and they are only interested in the petty politicians, and not the global initiative that is under way. It's taken me a while, but I'm starting to get a feel for the Venezuela problem, and it is really quite worrying. I find it difficult to discuss it sensibly with anyone.
Guaido is the jockey riding on the Trojan horse of the US. Should we not be able to state this?
You should be able and you are able to state such views in P&S. Just like TECSHARE, Quickseller, bluefirewhatshername, or any other nutjob (not that I consider you a nutjob, JC
) is able to do so as well. I can't see what the problem is, other than Quicksy not liking someone's opinion, again. 
I am saying there should be a warning that propaganda and disinformation posted by professionals may be posted.
Then that would be just as useless as any warning on any forum that tells you people are going to lie or otherwise say crazy things. That should be understood by anyone who's used the internet for more than a month--and I don't think the politics section here draws its viewership from toddlers. Just give it a rest.
Guaido is the jockey riding on the Trojan horse of the US. Should we not be able to state this?
So are you suggesting that lies should be moderated?
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it is best if the forum doesn’t moderate for truth
I am saying there should be a warning that propaganda and disinformation posted by professionals may be posted. Discussion with some of these people is not the same as having a discussion with your neighbor, friend or acquaintance.
a left wing agenda
Would a right wing agenda be more acceptable to you?
Use "Ignore" and stop concern-trolling. I think Maduro is a shitbag like you, but I also think both Maduro's and your asslickers have the right to exist.
Isn't Maduro the democratically elected president of Venezuela. Are you suggesting that a graduate of the George Washington University for regime change agents, that has not been elected, has more right to run the country?
We are all trying to get out of the control of the City of London ( this includes Britain ). It would be better if you could help America regain its independence, rather than trying to steal Venezuelan oil
We are all trying to get out of the control of the City of London ( this includes Britain ). It would be better if you could help America regain its independence, rather than trying to steal Venezuelan oil
So are you suggesting that lies should be moderated? I'm really not into politics myself, but I know damn well that what one person considers an untruth might be understood quite differently by someone else and often the truth is hard to discern. I would also think that you wouldn't want a moderator to censor anything in that section, as it would introduce a lot of bias in what posts ultimately are allowed--though I'm pretty sure FH is fair.
I tend to think Theymos probably doesn't want to filter anything in P&S. If you think someone is spreading false info, you can obviously feel free to correct them. And it's the internet. People are going to write bullshit all the time. We ought to trust that readers engage their critical thinking skills when browsing that section and don't need to be a truth nanny.
I tend to think Theymos probably doesn't want to filter anything in P&S. If you think someone is spreading false info, you can obviously feel free to correct them. And it's the internet. People are going to write bullshit all the time. We ought to trust that readers engage their critical thinking skills when browsing that section and don't need to be a truth nanny.
..the illegitimate president of Venezuela..
These people are effectively posting disinformation.
Mirrors are fun.
..the illegitimate president of Venezuela..
These people are effectively posting disinformation.
Mirrors are fun...the illegitimate president of Venezuela..
These people are effectively posting disinformation.
Mirrors are fun.
I would like to start by thanking Flying Helfish for cleaning up the PS sub (and theymos for getting a mod for the PS sub) as political discourse is now allowed, verses previously when there was so much garbage, it was effectively impossible (or very difficult) to have an intelligent discussion.
With the above being said, I have noticed a decent amount of what I believe to be pro-Madura (the illegitimate president of Venezuela) propaganda by a number of posters. These people are effectively posting disinformation.
I have also noticed a number of what I believe to believe left wing political operatives posting. I am unsure if they are the same person/associated with the same entity. They are posting disinformation to push a left wing agenda.
My question is what should be done about this? I obviously believe people should be able to post their opinion, and it is best if the forum doesn’t moderate for truth (and accurate conclusions based on a fact set).
If nothing else, this thread can serve as a reference to this activity. Perhaps there could be a sticky warning that propaganda and political operatives may be posting in the PS sub and that people should do their own research to form their own conclusions and opinions.
With the above being said, I have noticed a decent amount of what I believe to be pro-Madura (the illegitimate president of Venezuela) propaganda by a number of posters. These people are effectively posting disinformation.
I have also noticed a number of what I believe to believe left wing political operatives posting. I am unsure if they are the same person/associated with the same entity. They are posting disinformation to push a left wing agenda.
My question is what should be done about this? I obviously believe people should be able to post their opinion, and it is best if the forum doesn’t moderate for truth (and accurate conclusions based on a fact set).
If nothing else, this thread can serve as a reference to this activity. Perhaps there could be a sticky warning that propaganda and political operatives may be posting in the PS sub and that people should do their own research to form their own conclusions and opinions.
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